Acorn M.2 FPGA based GPU Accelerator

[RiceMiner69]

The hashrate acceleration Numbers for X16R for example are still the numbers from around june.
e.g. the 1080 ti is claimed with a 1.76x improvement using a CLE215+.

http://squirrelsresearch.com/acorn-cle-215-plus/

Today we have an improved hashrate due to better mining software in comparison to the values without acorns in june.
A throttled 1080 Ti back in june was able to reach around 15 MH/s at 150W Power. Now I have 27 MH/s with the same card, power target and measured power consumption also.

So I expect not a 1.76x improvement with the acorn anymore. Will there be any new numbers released....

I mean Soon(TM)....

Additional ... how can they be able to claim a accurate number like "1.76x" without a running software. Weird ...

Which mining software are you running???

BTW, I asked the exact same question (in regards to the figures posted) to everyone in the discord channel and they just told me "Math" 

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[Xazax310]

TOTALY SCAM

Yeah, Bitstreams are being delivered on the expensive unit, hosting is complete even for the Mineority units they have taken up hosting to be kind since Mineority collapsed and they took on most of their employees, they shipped out all hardware and not a single person has an issue getting a refund. There is already a bitstream to keep users occupied while the main software is released, they also released it for the lower end models that originally weren't going to have solo mining bitstreams. It's literally a holiday and most people including myself are off today and have been since around the 25th or running skeleton staff.


So please tell me why you think <sic> "TOTALY SCAM"

Just received an Email about refunding my ETC I paid with for the Acorns. I was really excited to see something like this but now that it's 3+ ? months behind with very little communication unless you browse the bitcoin.talk forums or discord.

I still haven't gotten my Refund... it's now 2019. I keep asking, Emailing support, going on discord. All I was told was that "Refunds are processing in order". So I'm out $700 way I figure it. Last response about my refund was asking for my wallet which I gave back in Nov 9~. After that I never heard anything. Emailed support again and all they did was forward me to the same girl who was no longer responding to me. Thanks, great support. Emailed them again around Dec 26. Haven't gotten a response back yet.

IMHO this is why people start hating crypto, this shit been happening since 2011, companies promising hardware, then market collapses and they cut and run.

[Morama]

Which mining software are you running???

BTW, I asked the exact same question (in regards to the figures posted) to everyone in the discord channel and they just told me "Math" 

z-enemy or t-rex on HiveOS. both are nearly identical fast.

[ayiphelmy]

TOTALY SCAM

Yeah, Bitstreams are being delivered on the expensive unit, hosting is complete even for the Mineority units they have taken up hosting to be kind since Mineority collapsed and they took on most of their employees, they shipped out all hardware and not a single person has an issue getting a refund. There is already a bitstream to keep users occupied while the main software is released, they also released it for the lower end models that originally weren't going to have solo mining bitstreams. It's literally a holiday and most people including myself are off today and have been since around the 25th or running skeleton staff.


So please tell me why you think <sic> "TOTALY SCAM"

u can ask everyone who buy ACORNS this shit not even work to boost gpu... and the shipment delay about 6 month....

[heavyarms1912]

TOTALY SCAM

Yeah, Bitstreams are being delivered on the expensive unit, hosting is complete even for the Mineority units they have taken up hosting to be kind since Mineority collapsed and they took on most of their employees, they shipped out all hardware and not a single person has an issue getting a refund. There is already a bitstream to keep users occupied while the main software is released, they also released it for the lower end models that originally weren't going to have solo mining bitstreams. It's literally a holiday and most people including myself are off today and have been since around the 25th or running skeleton staff.


So please tell me why you think <sic> "TOTALY SCAM"

It's a beta/test software for the HW nothing that was actually marketed for the Acorn sale.  If it did actually made something and was a reputable coin then it makes sense and be an excuse.
Nobody would work on holiday week. Agreed. And they essentially haven't either?

Regarding BCU hosting voes and other stuff, as a company one would think about it's own product delivery and then take on secondary stuff, unless there are gains involved in that scenario.
Let's be honest now, nobody does anything out of sheer goodwill, especially when their own stuff is incomplete.

I really hope we get the miner in coming weeks and not months.

[R0land]

I think the Acorns are good hardware for a very good price.
I like the m2 interface.

Can you build Acorns with thunderbolt interface ? Thunderbolt makes 40 GBit/s , now.

[vapourminer]

Can you build Acorns with thunderbolt interface ? Thunderbolt makes 40 GBit/s , now.

usb or thunderbolt acorns would be cool.

dude on discord tried a usb to m2 adapter but it didnt work. not sure if it was under linux or windows or the exact model. he said a nvme ssd worked on it but not the acorns.

[heavyarms1912]

I think the Acorns are good hardware for a very good price.
I like the m2 interface.

Can you build Acorns with thunderbolt interface ? Thunderbolt makes 40 GBit/s , now.

Acorns can work using thunderbolt too.  I recall that being mentioned in discord

[heavyarms1912]

Can you build Acorns with thunderbolt interface ? Thunderbolt makes 40 GBit/s , now.

usb or thunderbolt acorns would be cool.

dude on discord tried a usb to m2 adapter but it didnt work. not sure if it was under linux or windows or the exact model. he said a nvme ssd worked on it but not the acorns.

I have just bought an adapter and I am going to try my own test, it could have just been the adapter he had, lets hope that is the case. I think he said he thought the issue was to do with the lanes it was using but I don't think that's how it works when interfacing via USB.

usb 3.1 controllers picks up pcie lanes iirc.

[vapourminer]

I have just bought an adapter and I am going to try my own test, it could have just been the adapter he had, lets hope that is the case. I think he said he thought the issue was to do with the lanes it was using but I don't think that's how it works when interfacing via USB.

usb 3.1 controllers picks up pcie lanes iirc.

i would definitely love to know of a known to work with acorns usb to m2 adapter. as i have the feeling my current two mining mobos may wind up with some acorns on the wrong side of the PCH as the 1080tis i want to pair them up with. of course the usb may be on the wrong side too but i think it depends on which usb ports i use on the mobo.. wont know till the Soon ^(tm) to be released gpu boost miner arrives.

[vapourminer]

I might be fucked up on cold medicine too but I'm pretty sure you're talking about the acorn accelerating GPUs via USB? My first task is to get it solo mining via USB since it won't need 4 pci lanes to take full advantage of it.

cold medicine ftw!

possibly accelerating a gpu. depends on the acorn to gpu bandwidth i get on my machines. always nice to have options in case i want to offload some bandwidth to the other side of the pch.

solo mining needs far less, i think one lane or just usb 3 (maybe 2) would do for solo, at least for the solo zp miner we currently have.

[androstan1234]

I'm kinda frustrated that I dropped cash on this to buy it early through their store.  Now it's available for anyone with a credit card and we're all still waiting on software.

[philipma1957]

I'm kinda frustrated that I dropped cash on this to buy it early through their store.  Now it's available for anyone with a credit card and we're all still waiting on software.

So you're mad you don't have to pay interest? I don't get the issue you're having. You either are okay with paying the cost or not.

he paid with 6500 dollar btc

so if he gets a refund in btc it will be worth 4000. 

If he paid with a cc  it would be cash to cash.

I paid with 6500 dollar btc about 800  which was  around 0.123 btc

When I was refunded in btc btc was about 6500 which was around 0.123 btc.  I think I had a net profit of 6 bucks.

Thanks to M Furman complaining endlessly about the software I dedeuced he was correct and software would not show up.
So I was okay.  But those that stuck it out and paid  0.123 btc like I paid  if they got a refund today it would be .123 which is worth

0.123 x 4025 = 495 usd a 305 loss.

The smart people that waited and waited and waited can now order on amazon


https://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B07LCWPDTH/ref=dp_olp_0?

[Exoskeleton]

I'm kinda frustrated that I dropped cash on this to buy it early through their store.  Now it's available for anyone with a credit card and we're all still waiting on software.

The smart people that waited and waited and waited can now order on amazon

Man thats some cold shit phill.  But seriously I had the order screen open at one point in August but in the end I knew better of it. I had a feeling the software, not just the hardware, would be the issue and I was right. I also almost bought a BFL jalapeño back in 2013 too, but decided to wait till they had them in stock. Obviously this never happened. So this wouldn't be the only time waiting for finished hardware/software has paid off for me.

Hardware is often the easy part. Software for these things is really, really hard to get right and thats exactly why they needed to wait until they had it down to even start selling hardware. Smoke and mirrors is the name of the game here now. Gotta sell more units, forget that they don't even really work yet. "We will make the units you bought over 6 months ago work, soon." Probably sometime within the next... 2 Weeks^TM

Sock puppets afoot here and there defending the indefensible with this company. Discord? Why no updates on software progression here when they are the ones starting this thread. Im not joining a discord just to sift through the BS. There should be clear progressive updates on their website at least. Weekly updates, monthly at least, with real details on the progress being made and the challenges holding anything back. Real Timeframes.

This company is basically running a long con of sorts in my opinion.

Just because you receive something in your hand in return for money does not mean you haven't been duped.

[androstan1234]

I'm kinda frustrated that I dropped cash on this to buy it early through their store.  Now it's available for anyone with a credit card and we're all still waiting on software.

So you're mad you don't have to pay interest? I don't get the issue you're having. You either are okay with paying the cost or not.

he paid with 6500 dollar btc

so if he gets a refund in btc it will be worth 4000. 

If he paid with a cc  it would be cash to cash.

I paid with 6500 dollar btc about 800  which was  around 0.123 btc

When I was refunded in btc btc was about 6500 which was around 0.123 btc.  I think I had a net profit of 6 bucks.

Thanks to M Furman complaining endlessly about the software I dedeuced he was correct and software would not show up.
So I was okay.  But those that stuck it out and paid  0.123 btc like I paid  if they got a refund today it would be .123 which is worth

0.123 x 4025 = 495 usd a 305 loss.

The smart people that waited and waited and waited can now order on amazon


https://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B07LCWPDTH/ref=dp_olp_0?

With an amazon storecard you can get e.g. 12 month interest free financing.  I took advantage of this when I first got into mining, buying thousands of dollars worth of gpus and other hardware without paying a cent, mining for six months or so and holding until the value of the crypto hits a good peak, then cashing out and paying off the hardware.  Really wish I had my cash right now instead of these paperweights, but if I had waited for them to be on Amazon at least I could have the paperweights AND cash for a while.  I think they're legit and facing actual issues slowing them down, not conning, but it's frustrating to take more of a risk and actually get less of a reward versus someone who waited around longer.

[Exoskeleton]

With an amazon storecard you can get e.g. 12 month interest free financing.  I took advantage of this when I first got into mining, buying thousands of dollars worth of gpus and other hardware without paying a cent, mining for six months or so and holding until the value of the crypto hits a good peak, then cashing out and paying off the hardware.  Really wish I had my cash right now instead of these paperweights, but if I had waited for them to be on Amazon at least I could have the paperweights AND cash for a while.  I think they're legit and facing actual issues slowing them down, not conning, but it's frustrating to take more of a risk and actually get less of a reward versus someone who waited around longer.

There are so many others out there in a similar situation. Credit stretched and expecting a return, within 365 days at the least. If they had known a more realistic timeframe on this project they would have never bought into it. Or simply waited. It was misleading at the least. Perhaps me using the word "con" was a bit strong. But this software delay is really inexcusable. Giving unrealistic software release dates that basically guide peoples buying decisions into purchasing is borderline outright lying to your customers.

If not for selling the hardware upfront, the delays would be acceptable.

But with no software yet still, and hardware selling in apparent unlimited quantities, it makes for a bad look indeed.

[Exoskeleton]

This is the assumption that he would have sold the bitcoin then at that time .123btc still = .123btc. Do I scream bullshit about buying 333 mega hash miners at 1btc each? No because at the time I was willing to pay it, I don't assume I would have held on to those coins and sold at some mystic time.

The assumption is that if he didn't buy this unit he would have bought something else. At the same time for the same exchange rate. Its a fair and solid assumption. You have no reason to argue this. Why do you continually defend this company, even when you have no ground to stand on?

[RiceMiner69]

This is the assumption that he would have sold the bitcoin then at that time .123btc still = .123btc. Do I scream bullshit about buying 333 mega hash miners at 1btc each? No because at the time I was willing to pay it, I don't assume I would have held on to those coins and sold at some mystic time.

The assumption is that if he didn't buy this unit he would have bought something else. At the same time for the same exchange rate. Its a fair and solid assumption. You have no reason to argue this. Why do you continually defend this company, even when you have no ground to stand on?

He has to justify to himself why he spent all that money on a doorstop.....

From what I can gather on the Discord channel, it seems GPUH has some different builds of the miner currently being tested by his developers and when there is a "sane" version available, it will be released.... when this happens, nobody knows.  SQRL reputation is slowly going down the drain.

[philipma1957]

I'm kinda frustrated that I dropped cash on this to buy it early through their store.  Now it's available for anyone with a credit card and we're all still waiting on software.

So you're mad you don't have to pay interest? I don't get the issue you're having. You either are okay with paying the cost or not.

he paid with 6500 dollar btc

so if he gets a refund in btc it will be worth 4000. 

If he paid with a cc  it would be cash to cash.

I paid with 6500 dollar btc about 800  which was  around 0.123 btc

When I was refunded in btc btc was about 6500 which was around 0.123 btc.  I think I had a net profit of 6 bucks.

Thanks to M Furman complaining endlessly about the software I dedeuced he was correct and software would not show up.
So I was okay.  But those that stuck it out and paid  0.123 btc like I paid  if they got a refund today it would be .123 which is worth

0.123 x 4025 = 495 usd a 305 loss.

The smart people that waited and waited and waited can now order on amazon


https://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B07LCWPDTH/ref=dp_olp_0?

This is the assumption that he would have sold the bitcoin then at that time .123btc still = .123btc. Do I scream bullshit about buying 333 mega hash miners at 1btc each? No because at the time I was willing to pay it, I don't assume I would have held on to those coins and sold at some mystic time.

A lot depends on how you manage your btc.  If you had cash and btc in your Coinbase account.

Sent the .123 btc and then purchased .123 btc with your Coinbase cash. You lock in the value at 6500 for the .123

Great if coin went up bad if coin went down.  I like to keep some cash and some btc on hand in Coinbase to help established what I spent in cash. Not what I spent in coin.

Lots of ways to have handled the btc cash purchase.

 I am six bucks ahead on this refund. I am lucky. I could even send in a cc and purchase one with a 30 day return window. But I don’t think i’ll bother buying this item.

Sad that another USA mining builder fucked up.😔

[Exoskeleton]

This is the assumption that he would have sold the bitcoin then at that time .123btc still = .123btc. Do I scream bullshit about buying 333 mega hash miners at 1btc each? No because at the time I was willing to pay it, I don't assume I would have held on to those coins and sold at some mystic time.

The assumption is that if he didn't buy this unit he would have bought something else. At the same time for the same exchange rate. Its a fair and solid assumption. You have no reason to argue this. Why do you continually defend this company, even when you have no ground to stand on?

Bullshit, it's not like people decide I'm going out shopping today for an fpga and I will be spending x amount today no matter what. This is ridiculous, and not a fair or solid assumption, I'm not defending the company but the idea of that everyone keeps saying they lost money by getting the exact btc amount they were refunded. Look anywhere on this forum and you'll see the same shit, hodl, hodl, hodl but in here apparently everyone was spending that exact amount or cashing it out perfectly and rebuying in to only make money.


Come the fuck on, and I'm not defending the company in any way, but being mad that it's now available on Amazon is a joke. Fuck SQRL for all I care, I took my Gamble and I still think it will pay off, if you're so mad about $300 you probably shouldn't fucking be in crypto and especially buying hardware because it's a hell of a gamble all the way through.

Well your wrong. He almost certainly would have allocated those coins to another device. Perhaps not that exact day, but in that general timeframe. Most people do buy gear in strict cycles, many based on credit cycles like the guy above. Damn straight he would have allocated that money towards something else. Something that would have made a lot more than zero dollars in six-nine months.

I never bought anything, but if I had I would have spent a lot more than $300. Almost everyone who bought from sqrrl was spending in the thousands as well. Its in defense of the company you continually call out people for "getting mad" and "complaining about a loss". Its a very legitimate complaint, people have the right to explain their frustration on a public forum dedicated to the product. Where else can they express their problems with non-working gear that people paid good money for and were basically lied to about.

They absolutely should not be selling more units until they work. Its super shady. And the fact is that people who bought back in June got zero use out of their unit before it went public in January, the next year. That is cause for complaint. Its just wrong.