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I don't think any of the forks of bitcoin have a promising future, because the development of the Lightning Network will render them unnecessary. I also think they sow market confusion and give the impression that bitcoin is actually inflationary. It's probable, though, that they will rise in value during the next bull run.
Exactly. I also believe that the Lightning Network will render many Bitcoin forks completely useless. The main reason this Bitcoin fork craze started, was to create a scalable version of Bitcoin with an increased blocksize (apart from greed). Bitcoin Cash was the one crypto that started it all, but has taken a quite risky path that's been largely untested. On the other hand, Bitcoin's Lightning Network is being tested each day to become a secure, and decentralized second-layer protocol for instant and inexpensive micropayments. I think you're right about the value of Lightning Network, but you're short-sighted to think of it only in terms of Bitcoin. With cross-chain atomic swaps, BTC, BTG, and LTC can be exchanged through Lightning Network and all three types of coins can be transacted. The base code for BTG on Lightning Network (LND) is already in place, but just porting some code and saying "LN exists!" is easy. Creating all the necessary pieces for a living LN ecosystem is much harder - node software, mobile clients, user-friendly GUIs - this take a lot of work and a lot of libraries need to be made available to other developers. That's what the BTG devs are working on. Current development is focused on the prerequisites for a better future - enabling Compact Block on the full nodes, porting btcsuite, bringing in Neutrino. There are a lot of moving pieces and dependencies to build a working LN ecosystem!
If [Lightning Network is] successful, then there would be no use for an "improved version" of Bitcoin. This means that Bitcoin Gold, Bitcoin Cash, BitcoinZ, and many other BTC forks would have no reason to exist...
You're right that Bitcoin Cash was created to "improve" Bitcoin with a block size increase. Bitcoin Gold, however, was not created in response to a scalability concern. It was created to provide a more decentralized alternative. Go to your favorite computer retail store chain, or your corner store - can you buy an ASIC and start mining BTC or BCH? Probably not. OK, can you buy a GPU to mine BTG? Yup. Better yet... do you know anyone who already has a graphics card - maybe a video designer, probably a gamer? Well, they need to spend $0 to buy equipment for mining BTG. They can just install software, join a pool, and start mining. That's how you lower the barriers to entry. That's decentralization. BTG isn't competing with Bitcoin or other alts - BTG is building something useful and accessible to developers and people, and the ecosystem is improving steadily. In the future, different kinds of coins and miners can co-exist and interoperate more than ever before, and the questions will be: what are people mining? Buying? Holding? Transacting? BTG is steadily building towards allowing more people to do all of those, while making sure it's accessible to everyone - not just the rich and connected. |
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What is your parameter to determine the initial price of this coin I don't see any kind of token sale or ICO for this. This is the fork of the BTC blockchain and people will get airdrop so nobody can set the starting price for this coin?
One approach is to look at the Bitfinex pricing last year. Bitfinex traded a pre-launch token for BTG between the October 24th fork date and the November 12th launch date. (Technically, there was no airdrop - BTG was created by taking a full copy of the Bitcoin blockchain on October 24, so all pre-fork balances come directly from the Bitcoin balances at that time. The BTG ledger goes back to 2009.) Anyway, since Bitfinex allocated tokens directly to all Bitcoin holders at the time of the fork, and opened a market for them to be traded immediately (and those tokens converted to live BTG at launch), you can see their trading price history - which was generally between $100 and $160. There was a brief spike just before the actual BTG blockchain launch on November 12th, and then trading returned in the $150 to $160 range. This is probably a fair assessment of where BTG "opened". Here's a picture from Bitfinex for the relevant time period:  |
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does someone mining this coin?
There are many who do that. Net hashrate above 4 MSol/s at average hashrate of single GPU about 50 Sol/s. So It's about 60-90 thoushand GPUs involved in BTG network. What exactly do you interest in ? Probably even more. There are a lot of NVidia 1060's that were put into mining in early 2017, being very power-efficient miners of Ethereum and Zcash. They can no longer profitably mine Ethereum or Zcash given most people's power rate, so they've moved into BTG. Also, newer miners for Equihash(144,5) (aka Equihash-BTG aka Zhash) are supporting AMD, such as the latest lolMiner ( https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4724735.0) - supports mining on 560s and Vegas with only 3GB RAM. While the rates are low - below 50 Sol/s - they will give more miners and individual GPU owners the ability to mine again. |
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If anyone wants to see the status of the Endowment funds, including a complete list of all the Endowment wallets, check out this post: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4870374.msg43864610#msg43864610. TL;DR: about 80% of the coins mined for the Endowment in 2017 are still in their original wallets. Those who claim the BTG team "dumped" are contradicted by evidence that's been easily available on the blockchain every day since last year. Anyone can look and see for themselves, but these people are apparently not interested in the truth. |
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does anyone know whether we will receive btg fork token if we had btg in our account?
Should have gotten it last year already. |
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FYI to all, at the BTG fork on block 536,200, about 3 days from now (countdown timer here: https://bitcoingold.org/bitcoin-gold-network-upgrade), the Difficulty will drop to 1/100th the prior difficulty. Dropping 1/15 is to account for the hard algo (15x harder), but the rest is just to compensate in case a lot of miners/pool don't immediately migrate. This means the early post-block forks will be hyper-profitable.  I'm just sayin'. |
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...I'm on equihash autoswitch (zen, zec, btg, zcl; port 17203) at MininPoolHub; happily mining with older EWBF cuda miner.
BTG is however about to fork (~ July 1st) and switch to 144,5 algo.
Since new EWBF miner doesn't support 200,9 and older miner doesn't support 144,5, it will not be possible to mine at MPH with either of the miners. What would be a solution here?...
Because the K & N change makes for what is essentially a new algo, it's not possible to have one port that supports "different equihashs" at the same time (unless the pool has special software to change from a to b). One miner that autochanged algos based on a given pool's switch would have to coordinate with that given pool. That's just not how miners work, unless they, or some overlay app, are proprietary to that pool (like nicehash). You are probably right, BTG will have to be dropped from the port. MPH is however silent on that matter. We'll see. The MPH banner shows they're supporting BTG after the fork, but yeah, BTG will have to come out of the auto-switching Equihash pool. Their BTG page offers specs - they're keeping the same port number post-fork, so they must plan to take out the old pool and connect a new pool to that same port number at the time of the fork (or have otherwise automated the switch on their end - in which case, good job, MPH.) https://bitcoin-gold.miningpoolhub.com/ |
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EWBF Cuda Equihash Miner v0.1
Greetings!
This is the initial release of a new miner for Equihash algorithm.
Fantastic stuff, EWBF. Thanks for getting it out in time for BTCZ! (They are using string "BitcoinZ" and fork June 15.) |
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questions.
1. BTG is is going to 144. when is that again.
2. When that happens. old miner will stop working and i must use new correct?
3. here is my script. what will i need to change?
miner.exe --server us-east.equihash-hub.miningpoolhub.com --user x --pass xx --port 20595
new script (help me with this, is this correct?)
miner.exe --algo 144_5 --server us-east.equihash-hub.miningpoolhub.com --user x --pass xx --port 20595
4. ( --pers )would help answer question above. is this needed for btg, if so, what do i change it to.
5. does --fee 0 work as intended??
ty!
2. Yes. 3. Yes, this is correct for equihash 144,5 4. They said "We are going to upgrade to Equihash with a the parameter set <144,5>, with some customization." everything will depend on this "customization", if they change the algorithm, and not just the string of personalization, then a new miner will be needed. If only this line, then you will need to add --pers "string" and that's it. 5. Yes. 1. Final date has not been decided/shared. We'll make sure you know when it's decided. 4. Yes, "BgoldPoW" - references: https://github.com/BitcoinGold-mininghttps://github.com/BitcoinGold-mining/tromp-equihash/commit/38e0b154c4a2fd4bdd487c3c59943035dffa2ecc |
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Completely disagree. This is dangerous way to overclock and could lead to catastrophic failure of your rig if a card dies on its own.. and they do. Its discussed on the nvidia dev form with some python code that could be adopted to nvOC if anyone is interested: https://devtalk.nvidia.com/default/topic/769851/multi-nvidia-gpus-and-xorg-conf-how-to-account-for-pci-bus-busid-change-/Hi Guys,
I discovered a serious and potentially dangerous flaw in the way nvOC handles overclocking and would like to make a suggestion for an improvement.
We really need overclocking tied to the specific pcie slot (bus id) not an index that changes every time your hardware changes.
For example, if you have a gtx1080ti in slot 2, and a gtx1060 in slot 3, and your 1080ti goes offline for some reason or you remove it, the 1080ti overclock is now applied to what it thinks is the next card in the dumb index, and applies it to your gtx1060 potentially going POOF.
We need to apply overclocking to BUS ID:
| Fan Temp Perf Pwr:Usage/Cap| Memory-Usage | GPU-Util Compute M. |
|===============================+======================+======================|
| 0 GeForce GTX 1070 Off | 00000000:02:00.0 Off | N/A |
| 70% 56C P2 152W / 151W | 652MiB / 8112MiB | 99% Default |
+-------------------------------+----------------------+----------------------+
| 1 GeForce GTX 106... Off | 00000000:04:00.0 Off | N/A |
| 70% 61C P2 120W / 120W | 592MiB / 6072MiB | 99% Default |
+-------------------------------+----------------------+----------------------+
| 2 GeForce GTX 1070 Off | 00000000:05:00.0 Off | N/A |
| 70% 52C P2 118W / 120W | 614MiB / 8113MiB | 99% Default |
+-------------------------------+----------------------+----------------------+
Nothing to fix at all oO ... You modified your RIG, you have to modify setting ... How is OC by slot going to fix the scenario where a person just moves cards around in a rig as opposed to just removing one? Both scenarios are hardware changes and common sense dictates that the user be aware of this potential because they went down the path of path of individual OC in the first place. It is not like they went there by mistake, right? I think the concern is about when no changes are intentionally made. Example: I have 12 cards in a rig. One card dies completely, mining stops, WDOG restarts the rig... Rig comes back up, but the dead card is not recognized at all. GPU numbering is now different. Now some OC settings are wrong, may be applying power/fans/OC inappropriately, perhaps making the rig unstable or putting more hardware at risk.... |
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Hello miners and users!
We’re thrilled to announce a start date to the community:
November 12, 2017 – 7:00 PM UTC
Finally, news! Hooray! |
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I mean this: Note: you still need to implement bios setting changes. The SHA256 hash (for the zip) is:
Code:
20a32841e07521b536083e7d4d4d64e2f8fdf2e259d277bb48e79f1520f57af4
The checksums do not match. Where did you download from? And did you only try to download once? It could be one of the hosted files is corrupted, so it depends on your source. It also could be that your download got corrupted, so trying again may help. |
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Hi, I am using Asus b250 mining expert with Zotac 1070z. I had installed v0019-1.3 version. I managed to bring 4 gpu to mine. If I plug in 5th, i will get error "unable to get temperature internal error 15" and the particular GPU is down and the rest of 4 are working. I did changed 5 gpu to another 5 set of gpu and still got same problem.
I had plus the monitor to PCIe 16x gpu and enable the CSM setting.
If I install more than 5 gpu, can't enter to OS. Black screen after boots. Please help
have you tried reseting the mothing to optimized settings and switching PCI riser card? I tried all and still same problem Are you trying to power three risers from a single PCI power cable? That often causes problems for me - try to stick with two riser per power cable and see if that helps. Also, try using different PCIe X1 slots on the mobo, instead, just in case one of those is trouble. (But always include one card plugged into the PCIe x16 slot, connect to your monitor.) Also, if using two PSUs (A and B) with a single motherboard powered by PSU A, make sure that a graphics card powered by PSU B also has the riser powered by PSU B. I find that powering the GPU and riser from different PSUs leads to instability. |
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It seems it only writes the 1hash file and nothing else. It splits the USD into two partitions, one contains the 1hash, and the other is "unformatted."
I'm sure, and kind of hoping that, I'm "missing some mundane detail." Does anyone have ideas what is going wrong?
Thanks
Joe
Mundane detail: The image is a for a USB stick with two partitions: 1. A windows-readable partition with the 1bash file so you can pre-load it with your info from windows. 2. A linux-readable partition with everything else. The linux-readable partition won't be recognizable to Windows, unless you install third-party software into Windows that allows it to work with EXT4 partitions. That's why fullzero made the two-partition system. If you boot off that USB stick, on the first boot, it will copy that 1bash file into the /home/m1 directory (which is the "home" directory for the default "m1" account) and use it. Going forward, you'll need to make any edits to 1bash in place; it won't always copy the 1bash from the windows partition. |
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Hi, I am using Asus b250 mining expert with Zotac 1070z. I had installed v0019-1.3 version. I managed to bring 4 gpu to mine. If I plug in 5th, i will get error "unable to get temperature internal error 15" and the particular GPU is down and the rest of 4 are working. I did changed 5 gpu to another 5 set of gpu and still got same problem.
I had plus the monitor to PCIe 16x gpu and enable the CSM setting.
If I install more than 5 gpu, can't enter to OS. Black screen after boots. Please help
have you tried reseting the mothing to optimized settings and switching PCI riser card? +1 for this... I'd suspect mobo settings or a bad riser. I've had mobo setting lead to trouble especially when rebuilding a rig from Windows to nvOC; reset is best. |
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Try To get a list of active screens. What does that give you? It gives me: No sockets found in /var/run/screen/S-m1. Definitely no miners to be opened on other screens, then... I have my only AMD rig racked and headless right now, but when I have it out on the bench, I'll see if I can figure out how to help. Is it throwing any errors? And did you make any mods to oneBash besides setting your coin/address/wallet? You're mining ETH, right? (I'm guessing from the Claymore versions you mention.) Afterthought: Set oneBash for Claymore, but turn on logging by doing it like this: GENOILorCLAYMORE="CLAYMORE" # choose GENOIL or CLAYMORE
ETH_WORKER="$IP_AS_WORKER"
ETH_ADDRESS="youraddress"
ETH_POOL="yourpool"
ETH_EXTENTION_ARGUMENTS=" -dbg 0" # add any additional claymore arguments desired here The -dbg 0 will tell Claymore's debugger to turn on some basic logging. Reboot and let it fire up. Then, go look in the folder: /home/m1/eth/10_1/ for files named like this: 1509915035_log.txt These log files will show you if Claymore is starting up properly, or crapping out, or what. If there are NO log files, then Claymore isn't trying to start at all, and the problem is somewhere else. |
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Just switched to stopgap and I can't get it to launch the mining software. It sets all the overclocking and echos the prompt to view using "screen -r miner", but when I open a quake terminal and input screen -r miner, that screen cannot be found. I tried a couple reinstalls, tried switching from claymore 10 to claymore 9.5 to Genoils. None worked.
Try To get a list of active screens. What does that give you? Here's what mine looks like: m1@m1-desktop:~$ screen -list
There is a screen on:
1971.miner (11/03/2017 04:01:54 AM) (Detached)
1 Socket in /var/run/screen/S-m1.
m1@m1-desktop:~$
m1@m1-desktop:~$
m1@m1-desktop:~$ head oneBash
#!/bin/bash
# rxOC v_stopgap by fullzero
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!? Just make static entries for each rig in the router and no matter which OS you would have installed (Linux, Windows or else) every rig will always receive the same address without making any changes to it's network configuration at all.
Tied to MAC address, I take it? |
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