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1  Economy / Securities / Re: Would you be interested in margin trading on GLBSE? on: July 22, 2012, 08:27:04 PM
No, I don't think it as straightforward as you think. If you treat it as an easy hobby project rather than a serious undertaking, I wouldn't trust the result enough to use it.

Hmm. The more I think about it, the more I think that you're right. This kind of undertaking is probably out of my league. Undecided
2  Economy / Securities / Re: Would you be interested in margin trading on GLBSE? on: July 20, 2012, 01:32:29 AM
The problem with this is that the asset will lose all value. This means that the principal, and your margin loan will both be at full risk. Margin companies will not stay in business like this long.

That's why I would restrict the money I loan, and any lender who chooses so, so the trader wouldn't be able to deal in Pirate-related securities. But if a lender wanted to allow it, and then charge a higher interest rate, then I would not see a problem with it.
3  Economy / Securities / Re: Would you be interested in margin trading on GLBSE? on: July 20, 2012, 12:45:54 AM
You also need to protect against passthrough bonds. If pirate turns out to be a ponzi, this could also create a huge problem. A diversification requirement would not even solve this as there are multiple pass throughs to invest in. Your best bet IMHO is to do the research on the issues yourself, and then allow others to invest in issues that you believe are safe.

Personally, I'm one to shy away from the pass-through bonds, but I suppose I would let lenders dictate the terms of the account however they want as long as they're willing to assume the risk.
4  Economy / Securities / Re: Would you be interested in margin trading on GLBSE? on: July 19, 2012, 11:10:33 PM
What is there to stop someone from using this to create fake securities just to use your api to buy shares at 120% of input value, then run away with your funds, and their initial value?

That is a valid concern. Perhaps we would need to impose limitations preventing shares from being bought in new and low volume securities.
5  Economy / Securities / Re: Would you be interested in margin trading on GLBSE? on: July 19, 2012, 10:07:20 PM
So, as far as I understand, the way margin trading works is that you have to put up a certain amount of money to act as collateral. You then will receive whatever amount that is in the account, minus what you owe. Basically, you get all the gains, but you also take all the losses.

For example, if you want to borrow 100 BTC, you might have to put up 100 BTC. You then can trade with the 200 BTC. If the price rises 25%, so you now have 250 BTC worth, you can return the 100 that you owe (plus interest), and get 150 back (minus interest), giving you 50 BTC profit, which is double the amount you would have gotten if you had just traded your own 100 BTC.

However, if the price drops 25%, you only have 150 BTC worth. You would only receive 50 BTC, or 33% of the account value.

Depending on the terms of the loan, the lender can require you to own a certain minimum percentage of the account (to prevent the account from dropping more and becoming worth less than what you owe). If your percentage drops down below this limit, the lender can "call" back the loan. So you have to deposit more to keep the proportions correct, or the shares will be sold (even at a loss) and the balance will be paid back.

So what I would do is make a system that would let the borrowers trade with the account on GLBSE (through the API), but keep them from withdrawing more than they owe. Both the lender and the borrower would have to trust that I wouldn't abscond with the funds (or break the terms of their agreement), but as long as they can do that, then they don't have to worry about each other.

Edit: Shorting would just be the reverse. You borrow the shares, sell them, and possibly trade with the funds. If the original stock price goes up, you'll have to pay more to buy the shares and pay back the loan. If the price goes down, or if you made enough money trading to make up for the price increase, you buy the shares, return them and pocket the difference.
6  Economy / Securities / Re: Would you be interested in margin trading on GLBSE? on: July 19, 2012, 09:22:17 PM
Seems like an interesting idea.  You would basically become a broker, lending your own funds to allow customers to use leverage, charging them interest to do so.  Along the same lines you could also allow customers to short sell by lending them shares from your own inventory.

I was thinking at first of being more of an facilitator between lenders and traders, and letting them work out their own interest rates and margin requirements. But until there's more interest, I suppose I could start by lending my own coins (although I don't have much to lend at the moment).
7  Economy / Securities / Would you be interested in margin trading on GLBSE? on: July 19, 2012, 08:07:44 PM
I know that there are margin trading platforms for the Bitcoin/currency exchanges, but would anybody be interested in one for the GLBSE? I've been working with the GLBSE API lately, making a couple trade bots (I've turned them off for now, to ease the load), and I think it would be fairly straightforward. Basically, I would just provide an interface to allow people to borrow and trade on margin accounts, but controlling the withdrawal so that they can't just abscond with the money. What do you all think?
8  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: Bounty 5 BTC - Acessing CampBX API with PHP on: July 19, 2012, 04:58:06 PM
I'm no expert, but here are my suggestions:

First, make sure that you have OpenSSL installed. http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?t=929949

Second, check to see if there are any proxy settings that aren't getting carried through. http://forums.iis.net/p/1173290/1973896.aspx#1973896

Third, try implementing the headers and curl options from the last post here: http://bytes.com/topic/php/answers/734722-getting-php-login-somewhere-post-username-password-then-get-cookies

9  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Camolist Support Stinks on: July 18, 2012, 05:05:06 AM
Sigh... It's been 5 days and still no word.
10  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Camolist Support Stinks on: July 15, 2012, 01:18:32 AM
Oh great.. Another potential scammer...

I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt. It seems like he's been running the service for a while, so to suddenly bail on the operation wouldn't make much sense.

But if he is AWOL, do you think Mt. Gox would send the payment back? (Assuming he hasn't withdrawn it already...)
11  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Camolist Support Stinks on: July 14, 2012, 09:24:32 PM
I wish I had seen this sooner. I signed up yesterday for a month, just to try it out, and still haven't heard a single word from him. Either he's incapacitated or he just ran off with my 0.6 BTC. :/
12  Economy / Securities / Re: Is GLBSE also slow for you ? on: July 09, 2012, 08:50:28 PM
lot of people running trade bots maybe

Certainly not me, of course... *cough cough* Roll Eyes
13  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: [3 BTC BOUNTY] SimpleCoin PHP nightmare on: July 04, 2012, 05:35:41 AM
Ok, sounds like we fixed the first error.

Now, it seems that simplecoin needs the memcache module, which is not installed on default. The best guide I could find to do that is here:

http://stevelove.org/2009/09/30/how-to-install-php-memcached-on-an-ubuntu-server/

Hopefully that works.
14  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: [3 BTC BOUNTY] SimpleCoin PHP nightmare on: July 04, 2012, 12:30:56 AM
First, undo the change to apache.conf.

Next, take out the space between "include" and the left parenthesis.
15  Economy / Currency exchange / Re: WTB: Dwolla for BTC on: July 02, 2012, 03:44:10 PM
It was only a small order, but Inaba delivered. Thanks!  Smiley
16  Economy / Marketplace / Re: 6 BTC to someone who comes up with a slogan I like on: July 01, 2012, 08:35:53 PM
Who knows, OP hasn't contributed to the thread since starting it...kinda bad manners if you ask me.

I might not go that far, but it'd be nice to get a little feedback, so we can try to get closer to the mark.
17  Economy / Marketplace / Re: 6 BTC to someone who comes up with a slogan I like on: July 01, 2012, 08:07:57 PM
I guess none of our ideas passed muster. Shame.  Sad
18  Economy / Marketplace / Re: 6 BTC to someone who comes up with a slogan I like on: June 29, 2012, 03:43:04 AM
I'll throw out a few random ideas

"FanTAZtic Solutions"
"You've got needs. We satisfy."
"We make the Net work for you" (net work =~ network)
"Relax. We got this."
19  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Survey Initial Results on: June 27, 2012, 11:35:45 PM
Yeah, relative to men very few women are visionaries.

Have you ever heard of a women's opinion being a leading indicator for anything? Cheesy

Well, I don't want to disparage women or anything, and there are certainly exceptions, but women just tend to be more risk-averse. I don't think that's necessarily a bad thing, though. On one hand, you miss out on being part of the cutting-edge, but on the other, you don't get hit when the bubbles pop.
20  Economy / Marketplace / Re: 6 BTC to someone who comes up with a slogan I like on: June 27, 2012, 10:37:11 PM
I'm no marketing expert, but here are my two cents.

It all depends on the angle that you're really going for. From what I can tell, you have very reasonable prices (which are always nice). However, as with anything else, often people find out that cheap products are often of lower quality (you get what you pay for). Basically, I would try to communicate that (1) you know what you're doing technically and (2) you will provide reliable and helpful customer service, all while (3) having good prices. Now, you could go for some stiff and old-fashioned bit phrases, like:

"Expert Quality", "Solid Service", or "Unmatched Value"

but I suppose you want something a little less generic sounding. I'll just throw out a few right now, but I'll keep thinking about it tonight...

"Mo money, No problems", "Headache-Free Guarantee", "We've got your back, you can keep the arm and leg", "Results you can trust, prices you will love"
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