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1  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Rare Sats and Rare Sats trading on Magisat on: Today at 10:30:10 AM
I don't really believe into rare sats.  In my view, such concept was "invented" by those who wanna sell the salt to a slug (and cheat others). In essence I believe in the equally valued sats, i.e. 1 sat = 1sat (no matter of their ordering). Thus for those who are inclined to buy such stuff at an overprice I would recommend to find  an excuse for themselves for their latter breakdown.  
There are many easier "tokens" to sell to the public if you really want to invent something just to dump on people.
Rare sats are very well spread out among all people who have Bitcoin.

Why would you "invent" something to sell to the public if it's nearly impossible to gather a significant market share of that asset? That's one of the big reasons why I love this asset. 4/10 for this particular conspiracy theory  Grin
You could, if you could figure out the rare ones, you could collect them, not by just asking those people to sell, but you could just try to contact them or find it some other way, or even trade quickly without much loss to get as much as you can, not really a big deal though because this isn't something I care.

I care about the fact that it could be monetarized, you don't even have to make money from people, you could just do ads and such, eventually everyone does everything for money, very few people do very few things for free, so everyone looks at it and doubts there is no personal benefit, which is why they try to stay away from it. I am not saying you are doing something bad, good job on doing what you are doing if you like doing it, but nobody has to participate or believe in it. I agree on 1 sat = 1 sat, doesn't matter whose coin or sat came into my pocket, all I care about is making money and I believe majority of the world think exactly like me, they don't care whose sat it is.
2  Economy / Speculation / Re: Can Bitcoin reach 100k USD in 2024? on: October 03, 2024, 07:26:24 PM
Bitcoin price is changing so even if the price won't reach to that figure hopefully it will not change the perspective of people towards their long term investment planned with bitcoin. Since if they are been affected with current flow which we are experiencing a bearish like movement then provably that there decision might get changed and think about quitting.

So for them not to get worried about the price maybe its more better if they could just ignore the current flow. More better for them to focus on accumulation and think about other think since maybe from this they can escape those feelings on where they afraid to lose their money for this current bearish movement of bitcoin.

I never worry about the price of bitcoin and if we can see this figure to come this year. Since what my aim is to accumulated and execute well the DCA method I used. If $100k will not come this year its fine for me since I'm more busy building up my portfolio rather than think about other things like talking nonsense or checking frequently the current status of bitcoin.
This is the mindset that will get you rich and never give up on this. I believe we are going to make a lot of money from bitcoin if given enough time and accumulation, so it doesn't matter if the price goes to 100k or not this year, as long as we keep buying and holding and never sell, eventually we are going to see 100k, maybe this year, maybe next year, but it will happen.

So, you are on the right path and never get out of your way, do not look at others who get panic when they see price dropping even a bit, this is bitcoin world and drops are very normal, we see price increases a lot more common and this is why we shouldn't worry about any price drop at all. I get that we may not feel that crazy about it, but it is going to be a perfect situation without a doubt. Just focus on what you can do with what you know, like I said, you are on the right path and I am sure if you do not change your path then you are going to be rich. At least I hope so because I am doing the same thing Cheesy.
3  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: CATS airdrop enables withdrawal on: October 02, 2024, 06:32:50 PM
Regarding the results and prices after listing, I think it will be known and answered later, but for those who have followed the tap-tap cats, there are notes that must be met in order to be able to do WD to Bitget, for example, there must be a minimum of 5 people for the ref, otherwise it is not eligible.

For the current price in the pre-market, it is still at $0.00039, whether it will go up or down before listing, maybe we can't control and set it, only the market will finalize it from demand, if it continues to rise, it is certain that the participants was join will feel JP too.
Crazy that referring people is a thing now. On the past, I always thought that projects who has it are a scam. I even tried a couple in fact and ended up with zero rewards. Their only goal is to attract and trap more people. Even though it is legit, referring more people is still tough thing.

This will always be one of the requirements that I will hate forever urgh. I'd rather do the other requirements which is to buy some crypto. When a coin gets listed, I think it will always go down first because there are lots of people waiting for that moment to sell but if the hype is still there, more people can still enter and previous sellers can be able to buy again, making the price to recover and rise.
4  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Greed when trading on: October 02, 2024, 05:48:39 PM
Of course my friend, and with a clear mind, all the actions we will do, we must have thought carefully first, it is undeniable that every person who trades sometimes has a greedy attitude in achieving goals that must appear suddenly, but if that happens, then as traders we must be able to control this greed well and in a controlled manner so that our trading efforts are not in vain and trigger big losses instead of wanting to have big profits but instead we will receive business losses later.
Having a clear mind will make us know what we must do in the current situation so we can adapt ourselves better and we can also see a chance to take profit. Greed will always show up when we already see a small profit and the market is green so if we don't have a clue where the market will moves in the next minutes or hours, we should take the profit and monitor the market. Maybe we can enter to market after take the profit so we will have more chances to make more profit.
I think it was easy to start with a clear mind but there is no assurance that we can sustain it up until our session ends and usually something can always mess with us. If the market is green, isn't it a kind of clue?

If the profit that we have is only small, that could mean that the increase is only small as well, so there is a big chance that it will still continue to move upwards. There is no point of being greedy yet with the small profits and actually being greedy will make us to wait for more because we want to earn big. If in case you already take your small profit, why would you still monitor the market? Entering the market is better against the hype.
5  Economy / Economics / Re: SALARY IS NOT ENOUGH on: October 02, 2024, 10:28:23 AM
Yes, salary is not enough to cover our daily needs because the daily needs can increase anytime while our salary is rarely to increase depends on the company policies. We must search for other opportunities so we can have additional income that we can use to fills our daily needs and we can save the rest of the money for our future. We can not depends on our salary but if your salary is big enough to cover all of your daily needs and you still have more money in your wallet that will be good. But not many people who will have a big salary because many people still have low salary which will hard to use for their daily needs. That is why we must trying to have more sources of income whether that is additional work or investment so we can have more chances to earn money to fills our daily needs.
There are people who are blessed with high or enough salary. For those who aren't, maybe they can budget it evenly and decrease the quality of their living only for their salary to fit for it. That is only the solution there because sometimes the problem is only on us and not our salary as you know humans are a greedy kind of creatures and they always want more.

We can also follow your advice there of finding extra sources of income if we think it is heavy for us to downgrade our lifestyle. Salary is more stable than any other forms of incomes out there, so it is actually dependable. Salary in a job usually pays every 15th and 30th of the month and investments pays off longer than that, so we will be needing to rely in the money of our pockets if we are a daily spender.
6  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2024/2025 on: October 01, 2024, 06:56:50 PM
in as much as injury is not avoidable, it is not something both the players, the couch and even the fans want to hear about a player. If it eventually happens, it's not the first time Haaland is getting injured. It happened last season or previous two seasons. I can't really recall the exact season but it happened and he was still able to maintain the lead even after being out for several weeks. I won't be surprised if the same thing happen this season. As we can see from the stats, Haaland is already leading with a gap of two goals and Palmer who's second on the table doesn't have equal support like Haaland to score goals as much as possible. Palmer scored four in their last match by the way but we still have a long way to go since we are just six games away out of the thirty eight.
While I do agree that Haaland scores a lot of goals and he is a key figure for Manchester City, lets remember that he has been there for two seasons, this is his third if I am not wrong, and City won last 5 titles out of six, with four of them coming back to back. So that means they were good before him as well, he is not the reason why they win, so if they won without him, I am sure that they will do that again.

Not like if Haaland gets injured, that means they have to play with ten players, they will just put someone else in, and they will win like how they used to win. This isn't a simple thing, and I agree that City would hurt a lot, like how KDB was missing last year and they had trouble, but they didn't become terrible, they were ok enough compared to everyone else. Haaland scores a lot on unimportant games too, not like he scores on UCL knock out stages that much, so what they are missing would be some player who will score 4 goals against league last.
7  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Staking Altcoins For Interest Questions? on: October 01, 2024, 02:40:24 PM
Staking altcoins in platforms is different in concept and risk. If you hold an altcoin and are certain that you will not sell it in the near future, staking can be a profitable option. However, it is important to pay attention to potential risks related to liquidity, price volatility, and protocol security
The main difference would be is that the platform is holding our coin for us and they can give us an active incentive for it. About the risk, that is also the risk there because we don't know, what if they might collapse or turn into a scam one day and the assets that we stake on them will also be gone.

In investing or even in staking, one must be committed to it because this is the only way to earn decently but I think unexpected events won't also be avoided, so we can't help it but to touch what we put in sometimes. The only thing is that in staking we might not do it immediately because there is a lock-up period on the most of them if I am not mistaken.
8  Economy / Speculation / Re: Logic of crypto bull market on: September 30, 2024, 08:25:11 PM
The things you have mentioned seem logical, so what do you mean by "don't apply logic"? Trusting my gut feeling? Relying on fortune tellers to predict the BTC price? Do you really think that the crypto markets are not logical? I know that human traders act mostly emotional, but every action on the markets can be explained logically.
1.The next Bitcoin halving will be in 2028 so there's no point waiting for it. Maybe you are talking about the 2024 halving and a potential 2025 bull run. I agree with this.
2.I don't remember the 2016 or 2020 US elections pumping the price. There's no guarantee that the US presidential election will be bullish.
3.FED quantitative easing and interest rate cuts can be bullish, but only in the short term.
Yeah, I guess he is talking about that one, and we are going to peak without a doubt, it is going to be 12 months, as in spring of 2025 should be all time high for a long time, at least for this bull run. There isn't really any questionable situation about this, we are moving at the right direction, both rates are cutting down and also we are seeing halving coming together so the price should be growing very high.

I believe that 200k isn't really impossible and should be a price point we can reach. Doesn't mean that we are going to see it, we could fail to reach there because 200k is such a high price but we "may" and the whole point of investing is speculation so if you believe that it "may" reach that then even if price doesn't get there, we are going to see it grow. So, if it fails to go to 200k but reaches 150k that means you still profit a lot when you buy right now, that is the most important part and we need to consider that as the reason why we should buy right now.
9  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: September 30, 2024, 07:12:25 PM
Under Conte coaching, Napoli has performed better this season and is at the top of the standings and has only suffered one defeat so far. It is clearly difficult to compare the quality of Como with Napoli because the difference between the two is very far not only in terms of player quality, but also the history of the club. Therefore, never imagine that Como can be a serious challenger for the title this season because they are a newly promoted club. I am sure that this season the clubs that will compete tightly for the Serie A title are Napoli, Juventus and Inter Milan.
Conte is a known and great manager, there is no doubt that he will keep Napoli in the fighting and will do fine. I get that some people may question Napoli because they did terrible last year, but this season is different and they are doing very well, I do not think that they will have a bad season at all, they will do fine. They are already showing how strong they are and they already won some good games. Como shouldn't be a problem for Napoli at all, there is a big quality difference and while it was a shock that Como managed to win against Atalanta, I am not expecting the same against Napoli at all. They figured out last years issues and they are playing much better this year and they will beat Como without a doubt.
10  Economy / Economics / Re: World is run by risks and dominant Independent risk takers it's price of success on: September 30, 2024, 05:18:03 PM
Taking risk is very crucial part specially when we don't know the outcome of the risk that we take. Sometimes we failed and sometimes we loss but only one thing for sure is that we gain experience everytime we got failed or everytime we loss, if we don't take risk we cant earn big profit we are just like an investors that has so many regrets in the ends in my own opinion i think taking risk is the key to improved.
I think that if we don't know the outcome, we are afraid to take risks but if we do know it, and we know that the outcome is mostly positive, we will be ready to take risks. Not just losing but winning or profiting can also give us an experience and the experience can be more, just like when we play a video game where we are also being rewarded with more experience once we defeat our opponents or if we successfully completed a quest.

In life, all has a risk but there are still poor people. If it was about taking a risk, investing in assets like Gold and BTC, then losing is also possible. Money isn't all anyways but poor people can still be able to regret. Regrets are normal and still shapes us. It must have a reason on why it occurs. So, I won't totally beat myself up.
11  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: HMSTR finally deposited to exchange wallet on: September 29, 2024, 03:36:20 PM
Seriously have been seeing this airdrop all over and lot of people where downloading it and make much noise on this coin, well it has finally gotten list and currently everyone were shocked on the knocked out how the coin didn't get to their expectations. To have something meaningful from this coin you can hold till next year bull run I believe it would do more better after the market might have gained lots attention and could likely attracts more investors to invest heavily in that project before next year bull run.
Yes hopefully what is said can come true in the future and my decision is also the same will continue to hold it with other meme coins like Dogs. our hopes are always high but reality is different, this is the life we ​​hope for does not always come true but do not give up keep learning and trying surely one day we can find what we hope for
Yeah same here but that was before and eventually there are other similar projects who came and I think they even pay and got listed before Hamster Kombat did. I think they make much noise in order for the project to get more known and they think that makes its value rise even more but some projects actually decrease their payments if there are more people on board. IDK what you mean by 'people didn't get their expectations' when the OP said that it has no value yet. So, I won't just mind the number of coins that I received so far. It may only look small but if the value of the token is huge, that won't look bad at all. Holding it won't still guarantee us as well.
12  Economy / Economics / Re: China/PBOC eases their monetary policy on: September 29, 2024, 06:20:04 AM
~snip~
But the problem - Monetary Policy is controlled by a Cabal, and therefore it could be highly politicized to favor a small group of individuals. That's a sort of poison that's harming our society. Bitcoin is the antidote.

You are talking about something that has existed for thousands of years, there have always been those who had great power, and they still exist today. The "cabal", as you call them, cannot be destroyed by something like BTC, because this "antidote" is not something that people want, I think they have clearly shown that in the past 15 years.

I am not saying that in the future more people will not use BTC in one way or another, but it will be far from some global awareness that something needs to be changed.
I feel like controlled market will always be something that governments do, and governments are filled with regular people, while some people idolize presidents and politicians, they are humans just like us, and that means they have evil in them as much as any other person, usually more for politicians, so they can be bought and that means wealthy could control the politicians anyway they want.

This is why I think it's clear that we are going to face with a lot of trouble when we want a better economy, the wealthy will get richer, while we get poorer and we will be asked to learn to live with less and less, eventually living in commune housing with a hundred strangers will become the norm, and eating potato and rice everyday will become the norm, because rich will want every money we have.
13  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin hits $64K: What will October bring for BTC? on: September 28, 2024, 08:35:24 PM
We are not even in October yet, and we are at 65k already and that's a good thing and we shouldn't really be considering anything further for it, it's clear that we are seeing what we are seeing right now and it would be something normal in the end. I get that it may not be all that crazy for us, and I get that it is something that will be simple for people to see a bull run coming, so we should be not selling at the moment.

I cannot speak for others about buying, I am going to buy more, whenever I have some money I will try to get some more, I am trying to fix my economy and I am very close to it, and if bitcoin keeps going higher, I will be able to finally get back to a good life, and I will buy because of this. But I can't tell all of you to buy, but I can say not to sell, hold it, even if it drops a bit, keep holding, it looks like we will go back to ATH levels soon.
14  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Market Manipulation! Is it real? on: September 28, 2024, 12:52:05 PM
Look, If the government entity gets involved in manipulating the market, that will be a real shame. The size of the ETF market is getting bigger every day and companies like Blackrock can manipulate the market. But if you see the recent case, it wasn't from any of those ETF companies or from the government entity. The manipulation was from the news media which is BitcoinMagazine.

I cannot imagine an online news media to do these manipulations. Luckily, people were able to catch them placing bets on Rollbit. Or else, we would never know it was just a pre-planned thing that they executed. They didn't admit that, but you should understand it.  
But, I think a media is only like a slave (no offense). I mean they just publish the news but the source doesn't originally came from them, rather it was from the people. Some corrupt media can also get bribes to publish a fake news. So we don't know, what if the manipulation was ordered by some ETF companies or government entities? I'm only wondering on what it has to do with them playing on an online casino? And how are they be able to get caught? I think they won't use their real identity to play gambling. Also anyone can set up any names they like. So, it's possible that the name or the account was only owned by someone else.
15  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: what would you do when you can no longer trade? on: September 28, 2024, 09:53:59 AM
I think traders are people who are wise in managing the finances they get from trading results even though they actually only survive based on trading profits. We have to get passive income apart from trading, such as switching to a real work program considering that market prices are now starting to become abnormal.

starting from the beginning of this year until today, it is very chaotic, you don't always win in trading, but you have to survive even if there are losses. This idea is very suitable for people who have a lot of money and buy several coins in a portfolio to create their assets in the future with 100% profit from trading results. The important thing is not to rush and be wise in trading.
That is definitely true for people who do not have enough, but if your capital is big enough then you could do more with it and you could live based on that too. Like someone who has a million dollars, could make 100-200k a year, wouldn't be that hard, and could spend 50k a year to live, that is of course for USA, for other nations you could live for much cheaper as well. Meaning that it depends on the capital.

If you have low capital then you shouldn't be a full time trader anyway, you need a job and an income that can cover for it. You could make it better for you if you ended up with a job that pays you well enough that you invest and spend for your life at the same time, allowing you save some aside for trading.
16  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Tips for trading strategy in STOP LOSS on: September 27, 2024, 08:39:20 PM
That is why we must always learn more about trading so we can know the situation and also know what we need to do based on the current situation. By learning more about trading, we can test one by one of the methods that we know so we can see which method that may work in the current situation so we can use that to trade. We will have a chance to reduces the losing money in trading because we can analyze better and always trying to prevent the mistake.

Focus is indeed necessary and important when we analyze so we can know the time to enter the market. We can also know how to deal with the risks not to becomes bigger because we will analyze deeper before we make a decision. We must familiar and understand how to trade in the spot trading so that will help us to analyze if we want to try to use futures trading. We must remember that we don't have to use high leverage if we don't have much skills in analyzing because that can make us lose the money.
The hardest part about focusing is the loss of focus because thats a lot harder to handle. I mean many people try to focus on analysing the economy and they end up losing so much and I think it has to be something that will take a while to arrange and we need to make sure that we are dealing with something that is getting a better result, it shouldn't really matter on the long run, it has to be something that will take a while.

I believe that we are going to make money on things that we are going to see and that is why I believe that we are going to see this getting easier the more you do it because veterans can focus a lot easier whereas newbies end up with something that will be hard to focus because they will be hyped and they will make a lot more money that way. So it would be smart decision to just make as much money as you can with what you have and keep getting better and in the end we are going to see this getting a lot better results.
17  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2024/25 Season on: September 27, 2024, 07:03:10 PM
AC Milan performance is very inconsistent and it will be difficult for us to gauge whether they are able to win the next match against Leverkusen. Like their first defeat against Liverpool, then in Serie A they performed impressively by defeating Inter who previously Inter were able to withstand dangerous aggression from Manchester City. Now AC Milan are faced with a challenge that is not easy, Leverkusen do not have experience in the Champions League with the current squad but seeing the success in the first match indicates that Leverkusen do not need to adapt in the Champions League.

In the end, that makes me not take too much risk betting on the Leverkusen vs AC Milan match.
The inconsistency is definitely something that is making people question their quality and capabilities. They are the same team who won against Inter, but also lost points against worse teams, so it's clear that there isn't really anything that is making this easy for them, it is not going to be that simple at all.

We should consider this as a little bit harder to handle and I think the best way to do this would be just making sure that we are dealing with a better outlook in life. I think it's great that we spend time on all of these, because Milan being inconsistent means that betting on them is also hard, and checking how they could be doing, specially on live bets, means that you can see how they do in the first 15 minutes, and decide and bet later during the game.
18  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The power of HODLing BTC on: September 26, 2024, 08:38:03 PM
The best way to overcome this anxiety is to have a plan. For instance,  a person who wants to invest in bitcoin as a retirement plan will definitely be willing to invest for years without that urge to withdraw and start spending the money. The plan could be to invest for 2, 3, 4 years and above as the case may be because there is a goal to achieve. The investment decisions will never be thesame with someone without any set plan who just wants to to hodl till the value appreciates a bit and they withdraw immediately. You see this kind of people constantly checking the price of bitcoin because they don't want to be taken unawares.

Whether a person intends to invest for short term or long-term, a good investment plan should be able to help them remain focused on the goal or target they intend to reach. It is only an unserious investor that will invest without a plan and regret when others are making it big.
Yeah, if you have a set plan and you just follow it, then you do not have to worry about what's going on, you just need to do what you are willing to do and if you can make that work then there won't be a reason to be worried about it. I understand that people may sometimes feel like it's something bigger but in reality it is not that big and we can just keep on holding with a plan, with a goal.

If we can do that then when the market moves, up or down, then we won't care about it because we would be focused on our situation and nothing more, if we can make that work then I am going to see this changing all the way differently and that is why I believe that we are going to see this growing to be something much bigger in the end. I feel like we are going to see this changing that would make it better, hence we should be considering how this could be some different thing then what we are seeing right now and we could totally make some money from it.
19  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: September 25, 2024, 08:51:41 PM
Como previously did not have single win and in 4 matches only got 2 draws and 2 defeats, but today Como played very well in the away match against Atalanta and ended the game with winning score of 2 - 3.
I did not expect Como to be able to play this well even though in the first half Atalanta was far superior and more dominant in possession and play, I considered Atalanta as the favorite and they could win easily because they played at home and Como was the lower team, but in reality Atalanta disappointed me.
I took win for Atalanta and also Asian Total Over 2.5 and Atalanta victory could not be realized and they lost points in this match, for their previous meetings showed Atalanta always won by landslide but today everything changed and Como recorded their first victory against Atalanta.
There is absolutely no excuse for Atalanta to lose to Como, it's definitely not a good move and I think they should have won this game by clear margins. I think battling Arsenal made them so tired that they didn't had what it takes to play this game and were tired and just fatigue cost them this game. It's obvious that they are going to have some trouble on the long run, we should be seeing them have some changes but in the end we are going to see this change eventually.

What we need to do right now would be just focusing on what we can provide on the long term as well. I know that we are going to see something that will bring a lot more forward when they rest a bit, they are a team that will do fine and not have any worries.
20  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Turkish Super League 2024/25 Season on: September 25, 2024, 08:08:53 PM
Actually the galatasaray starting season with bad because of their defeat to Besiktas in the Super Cup final and also eliminated from the Champions League after being defeated by the youngboys, but the negative results they got in those matches did not affect their performance in the current league, even in the 6 matches that have been played in the league we can see how they are still able to achieve perfect victories in every game including when facing Fenerbache several past time,  last season Galatasaray managed to win the league after they left Fenerbache with a difference of 3 points at the end of the season, but this season meantime  they has run fast enough with a difference of 5 points from Fenerbache, so I think it will be difficult for their rivals this season to be able to break Galatasaray dominance in winning the Super Lig trophy.
Yes, I know they lost to Besiktas in the Super Kupa and were knocked out of the UCL by Young Boys. People who follow the news know that too, but this is the Super Lig we're talking about, so I'm not wrong to say they have had a good start to the season Cheesy. If you want to discuss Galatasaray being knocked out of UCL, you can create a discussion on UEFA Champions League 2024/25 Season.
I think starting the season well is a very important because while they may look like Galatasaray is great right now, it still doesn't change the fact that they are no longer in the UCL, which would have made them have so much more money, like 10x more money if they were there, even if they lost every single game, and they lost on that because they started the season terribly, and also they already lost a cup, they could have won the super cup of domestic level and would have another cup at their trophy room as well. Sure they may end up being the champions again this season, we do not know, they look quite strong and they are doing great right now but we do not know if they will keep this up or not.

But even if they keep this up, they won't really have anything as profitable as being in the UCL, so they need to figure out how they can start the seasons better. They have no choice but to be champions again this season and go to UCL next season, it's a must financially, with the way they are spending money, not being champions could put them in so much debt that they would have to sell a bunch of players to just pay the salaries, that's all they have as alternative to being champions.
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