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extracrunchy Dear randomizer, please pick me!  |
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ok, my bad. got my money back. case closed. i won't bother you guys on this thread anymore!  |
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I got my btc. I suggest op provide documents they want.
I had to mark the payment as "fraudulent" with my bank. Got my money back. Also filled with the BBB (not that I think it will matter a lot), also looking for other agencies to file with. Hope these scammers are brought to justice soon!! |
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/facepalm
Where's the "scammers tried to help me, I didn't listen" meme when you need it?!?
To quote a very wise man: The company asking the client to report the transfer as fraudulent with their bank in order to have funds returned should set off some alarm bells. Does that sound "normal" to you?
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Called my bank, and you are right! ACH reversals can be made!
But I'll have to go to the branch in person, fill out a couple of forms, and wait ~10 business days to get my deposit back....
I still blame BitBox for all the wastage of time, and holding up of my money!!!
In Bitbox's defense, you've made a massive shitstorm and stirred it up. This looks like it could've easily been fixed... Now that I have my money back, I can lol @ your comment. In my defense, I should have the right to refuse to accept the ToS and NOT get my money confiscated. The whole "shitstorm" was based on an idea as simple as that. Was that wrong to assume? |
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So, finally, after a month long exercise, my bank FINALLY managed to get the $500 back from BitBox.mx.
WARNING to anyone doing business with BitBox: Read the ToS VERY carefully, because if they CAN screw you, they WILL screw you!
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why, some one need such screen shots of BSNL web site, other then for creating fishing clone of that web site for collecting credit cards info from BSNL customers. Would you care to give any reason, why you need such info about BSNL web site.
Sure, I'll give you a reason. BSNL uses Siebel (Oracles data management solution). My start-up is bidding on a project by a similar telecom company and after reading all of Siebels user manuals, we would like to see how the pros have implemented it. If I wanted to create a phishing clone, wouldn't I rather go for a credit card/bank account website where there was money involved?? (Instead of peoples call data) We really need to get rid of this "guilty until proven innocent mentality" here. thanks |
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What about Mexican AML laws? That site claims to be Mexican at least.
They are actually based out of the University of Michigan! Not sure what the deal is with the .mx domain... |
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sold on ebay. please close this thread.
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I have a $500 DELL e-gift card valid on anything at dell.com
Asking 4.9 BTC
Code will be emailed (no shipping)
Escrow only
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I'm looking for someone with a BSNL account. I'm a developer and need to check a couple of things on the BSNL website. If anyone can share his/her login for a day or two, I'd be happy to send some satoshis your way.
Thanks!
I have a BSNL broadband account, not keen to share logins,etc. If you have some tests to run, let me know and I can send you logs. Would you be willing to send me screenshots of all pages (with personal information grayed out, ofcourse)? Thanks! |
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I'm looking for someone with a BSNL account. I'm a developer and need to check a couple of things on the BSNL website. If anyone can share his/her login for a day or two, I'd be happy to send some satoshis your way.
Thanks!
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Something smells fishy here. Perhaps he didn't call them or give verification info because he can't? Maybe he registered the account with a false identity or maybe the verification was triggered not as a random spot check, but as a "for cause" investigation?
I have clearly stated that MY money could either be reversed from the bank account it was sent from or could be mailed back to my address on file via check. I don't have any problems VERIFYING anything as long as it doesnt involve bitbox requesting my passport/state id/bank statements. If you've read the thread, all I'm against is giving my personal information to a shady start-up like BitBox. Theyre more than welcome to come visit me if they would like to verify who I am. On a side note, you sound a lot like one of the BitBox guys I talked to. Out of curiosity, are you associated with BitBox in a any way?? |
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I was talking to a few friends, and heres a technicality:
BitBox has already admitted they have my money. If I simply refuse to do anything and send them a registered letter asking for my money back and they do not comply, doesn't that make them illegally holding on to my money??
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7.99 + tax, comes out to be ~$100 I'll do 0.9 BTC if you're really interested |
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I have a 12 month Netflix subscription that I'm selling for 1 BTC. This is a gift certificate code, that when you enter to your account, you get 1 full year of Netflix streaming.
Only old members or escrow..
Thanks!
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TOS can't violate existing laws. For example I can't put in a TOS by using the service you agree to transfer all property to xyz corp and then go into court and say "see he agreed give me the deed to his house". A company can refuse to do business but they can't refuse to do business and "hang on to" another persons assets. The honest and clear thing to do would be for the service provider to have client complete any requirements first and then accept funds. For example if the service provider is worried about ACH fraud they could send a random small amount of funds to the clients account to verify it. If they need any docs they can design the site such that the client can't send funds until verified. Nothing in MSB regulations requires or even allows a company to just keep client funds. The purpose of AML is to prevent the TRANSFER of suspicious funds not to deprive criminals of (note not saying the OP just pointing out the purpose of AML programs is to prevent not seize). Seizure of assets is a law enforcement activity pursuant to a warrant by a judge. The company has no authority to seize funds of clients under any circumstances. If funds are returned then there is no transfer. In the event of a "suspicious transaction" the proper procedure is to file a SAR with FinCEN. If the company had completed mandatory AML training and had a written AML compliance program as required by a MSB they would already know the proper response. Companies doing stupid shit like seizing the property of another person is why money transmission is so heavily regulated at the state level. State regulation and licensing has nothing to do with AML, it is about protecting clients from illegal actions of companies. I mean you are a logic person obviously if that was the case that a company could just keep funds based on vague terms of service it would be a good way to turn a profit doing nothing. Sorry before we can complete this transactions we need a copy of your DL ... now we also need a copy of your utility bill ... sorry we also need three personal references ... sorry we need your SSN and written permission to access your credit report .... sorry we also need a notarized copy of your high school diploma ... http://www.ecfr.gov/cgi-bin/text-idx?c=ecfr&SID=017335056cf96e754794b9fe7336e17c&rgn=div5&view=text&node=31:3.1.6.1.6&idno=31#31:3.1.6.1.6.3.5.8THANK YOU!! This is the exact reason why I took a stand on this!!! Very well said.... BitBox is just trying to make money doing nothing. In talks with the University of Michigan (whose name they use to scam people!) |
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