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If I buy on tradeogre right now.
The fork will not affect my coins right?
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Where is the damn code and github?
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Time to stop posting on this thread...
Like I'v said before, everything else other than the code is mental masturbation.
Wait for code or con
See you in 4 weeks
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This project is being left in the dust...
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Fair enough Felix.
Good luck...
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I think that not many people will dump the tokens at the first possibility, if Felixando really delivers. They remember the xrb progress.
Actually there were quite a lot available on EtherDelta yesterday when I brought some. People panic and act irrationally and then regret. They are really cheap and a great opportunity but they come with a really high risk so don't bet money you can't afford to lose (Think of it as money you would take to a casino, you may come away rich but also have a decent chance of losing it all). If you are considering selling, I suggest you keep a few back just in case, at least you will not have so many regrets if/when felixando delivers. As for felixando's comments about not selling, I see it as more advisory as in, if you sell you are really going to regret and he is doing what he thinks best and advising that. Given that he is the one person who knows for certain that this is going to happen (or not) he would be remiss not to warn people that they will lose on the opportunity. I don't see any angle in which he benefits either way honestly. I do think that there is deliberate fudding (and lets face it, it is really easy to do given the circumstances) to scare people into selling their tokens. Personally I intend to hodl and wait and see and with a bit of luck, this will be a huge win. If it doesn't happen, I will be upset but will move on. Even Islapdonkeys can't come up with a reasonable reason for felixando to still be posting if he is trying to scam. Perhaps that is because felixando can make hundreds of times more just by releasing a coin that works. Sometimes there is more to be made in releasing the coin than in any scam that can be concocted. You don't get to be as rich as the Ripple founders of Nano devs by scamming, you get there by making a working coin and then get to spend the rest of your days on your mega yacht in the Med surrounded by beautiful people. Edit: I wanted to add, the Binance listing probably only requires to see code towards the end of the application process or maybe not at all since tokens can be traded, Binance does not make judgements on the value of what is traded. Someone could try ask Binance if an application has been made for Stone but I doubt they would tell you because of confidentiality reasons. Man but why would Felixando delete past comments asking for specs/about the the technicalities of the code? Look at this image> https://imgur.com/a/UxUijThis was before felixando "documented" that he took from Wikipedia. This dude called him on it and instead of responding to him, and explaining his position. He deleted the damn post. Why would a legit developer delete such a post? This was in the beginning... when donations we're still open remember... So be it, I will wait patiently for the code. Perhaps he did not know at the time, either way, good luck Felix if you are legit.
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Ti'll the end of the month then Felix
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Unluckily for you, you didn't take the time to research and see that i have dedicated the past yr to fighting scam on this forum and i have made alot of enemies due to it. Several scam artist who made malicious claim against me with hope that it destroys my voice on the forum. But due to my diligent nature, i have managed to prove them all false and got every single acct tagged. So could you plz stop with the deflection and provide a code. I mean a link was posted that a binance application is in progress and you can't do it without a code, so give us something. You don't even have to provide the entire thing just something to prove that am wrong. And if am wrong, i will apologize, and invest. But till then stop with the stupid deflection and provide a proof to support your cause Islapdonkey is a huge scammer and needs to be banned
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2381660.0This doesn' check out numbnuts. Perhaps it is you who is the scammer.
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**Testnet-trials Participation List** Mate2Mate PerfectCoinSeeker no_advance njoroge Bamauth bitcoinuserz w******t Nomad_1 Mucamo_35 hoolio Mckonery ICOGuide bitcoinuserz fedmahnkassad Dagmen Worldtokenindex xibeijan racka njoroge witzowitz mgpf Phantomtrader kaar jinhwanlazy f1tz14 None of these accounts have/has posted in this thread, so they are all fake. Yeah this project is looking like a scam, especially since the dev is unwilling to answer the tougher questions. Damn shame, if only you had some real talents other than stealing money. I am both on the donators list and the testers list, have posted in this thread a few times and am very active around here and on Twitter. Of course this does not prove that the project is legit, but it does prove that you haven't done your homework and are spreading FUD. The reason I have sent a few ETH is I thought the R/R was good. I am fully prepared to get 0 out of this, get a 100x or something in between. Irony is that most users who have created FUD about the project have donated to the project..some directly and some with their Alt IDs The FUD is obviously to get more coins in 30% donators share..wait for a month or two,you will see them shilling about the project The quoted user @tk808 has donated to the project on 8th of Feb,just few hrs before closing of donations Here's his transaction hash: https://etherscan.io/tx/0x9653cb09c5aab5d2b5ae00895118f1c9a821a83d850ae3822644f94fee01e24bI have offered to buy their tokens and since they are convinced their money is gone forever, they should be jumping at my offer. Not a peep. Come on, get something rather than nothing, sell me all those useless tokens. This is a serious offer, if you truly believe this is a scam, sell me the tokens and get something rather than nothing, put your money where your mouth is... I'll contact you about selling once we receive them then
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I wasn't donating to this project, although I like the idea and the technical approach of Stone. I do not know if it is a scam or not but if it would be a scam the developer would have a lot of technical knowledge he is wasting. Then he should rather use it in a real good project instead of scamming people. This is why I am optimistic to this project.
Where did you see any technical knowledge? In fact, he avoided answering any technical questions. I am not a techie. I read his post history concerning this thread and from my point of view he answered some technical question. Again I am not a tech guy but what he answered showed technical competence to me. Maybe I am wrong. Though, you are right he did not answer all the technical question clearly. felixando censored tons of legit technical questions and that answers he probably copy past them from Wikipedia or from some websites related to crypto. If you have actual evidence, then provide it. If not, you are just noise. I found this... One second... https://imgur.com/a/UxUijHere it is... The code is the only thing that matters now....
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**Testnet-trials Participation List** Mate2Mate PerfectCoinSeeker no_advance njoroge Bamauth bitcoinuserz w******t Nomad_1 Mucamo_35 hoolio Mckonery ICOGuide bitcoinuserz fedmahnkassad Dagmen Worldtokenindex xibeijan racka njoroge witzowitz mgpf Phantomtrader kaar jinhwanlazy f1tz14 None of these accounts have/has posted in this thread, so they are all fake. Yeah this project is looking like a scam, especially since the dev is unwilling to answer the tougher questions. Damn shame, if only you had some real talents other than stealing money. I really looking out for project like Nano with privacy coin with more options built on it down the road, then i found this thread and followed it till now. I really don't know how you claim as all scam accounts in testnet list. I personally donated for the project very small amount what i can afford and would love to see Mr.Felixando succeed in what he claimed at adding privacy to Nano Coin. But the way he is been rushing in creating hype of ad campaign postings, Binance listing image post etc not at all necessary at this stage of the project rather need some code which will take us closer to the working product. If we have good product and then work on good distribution options so coin can sustain long run and go in to main line use cases. This can only loose confidence on Felixando by community members this is not good sign to build great community around. I still have hope that he will release his code(Whatever available) by tomorrow rather than all the above marketing material without product none of these make sense. I agree with both you. I have been watching this project since long and participating in forum as well. Now first, i think that testers list is filled with too many newbie account, mostly dummy accounts. So they might have been using other accounts to post on forum. Giving them benefit of doubt and based on how things work here. Now, 2nd part is i am very concerned about. I wanted to donated, but same things stopped me as well. There was wallet UI posted, which was very well done, than Binance listing image and than twitter compaign - so far project never shown desperation for donation but keeping in mind that this happend in very end days of donation, create a doubt that is it that team is trying to push people for donation. It could be planned thing and they might have thought of having benefit to get more donation, and it ended up giving us signaling that it could be scam as well. Time will tell, I can afford to loose so I have no problem in donating but I am principally against promoting something which could be scam. Time will tell and still i am 50-50% divided on my own analysis over these last weeks, but at this time i am ready to buy later by paying more rather than putting donation now. I think the same as you do. I also wanted to donate, but I tried to contact felixando before. I have offered to build a website free of charge, I have asked four times in total if I am allowed to participate in the testnet and have never received any answer. In addition, I doubted the distribution and suggested a different kind of distibution. Because in the plan of the distribution can already be seen that this was built to collect as many donations as possible. In addition, we will have some whales after the distrubution, which can quite simply drive a pump and dump scheme at the exchanges. This will provide an incredibly high level of volatility and make the coin uncertain and unpredictable for new investors. I said so about four times, but you know what has happend ^^ ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Then there was someone who uploaded a screenshot for a possible wallet. Thank you for your effort and your certainly great work. But the thing looks like it's from 1998. Of course, it's a bit more modern than the design of the former RaiWallet (there was a copy here for Stone), but seriously. That looks medieval. We live in the year 2018. The design alone should be argument enough to use the Stone Wallet. You can not get excited about that. Honestly. But no matter. The consequence: member of the "design team" (LOL). I do not want to do your job bad and it's not meant personally. Believe me ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Then there is someone who markets a product via Twitter that does not exist. Anyone who works in marketing probably will know that this is a bad or at least a very risky move to advertise in advance for something that may not even work or exist. Who knows? I hope that felixando and his team will do a lot, because DAG and privacy will be THE thing of the coming time. But people: First, take one step and then the next. This is heavily marketing, but the developer is afraid to upload code, because the it is possibly not quite ready yet? For real? Furthermore, it is completely stupid to apply with something at Binance, of which one does not know if it will finish properly or even works. Finally, felixando recently said that the code is not ready yet and that's why he did not publish it to GitHub. But apply to Binance? Why? Would it not be better to test first in the testnet and to make sure that the coin is stable, and AFTER that to carry out the distribution and to apply parallel? I'm looking forward to Stone. But I'm still skeptical, because obviously there is no real plan, the design of the wallet looks relatively shabby and announcements are made that are far too early. The only plan that seems to work is donating. That works. And whenever a donation is made or it is claimed that Stone could be scam, felixando becomes active here. Otherwise you do not hear a word from him. If I were the developer or community manager of the coin, I would probably talk non-stop with you about technical possibilities, distributions, roadmaps and much more. Constantly. Now the team should have become aware of my contribution. So here's my fifth attempt to apply for the testnet. I would like to be there. Thank you ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Well said. I’m not a techie and I’m very late to crypto, so I didn’t know what the wallet should look like. It definitely appeared bare bones, but I didn’t know if this was just what it appears like in its raw state and then you put on a graphically appealing user interface later on. In the early stages, I had high hopes for this project and shared those with Felixando in PMs. I donated a reasonable amounts earlier on, too. But as I know from being a program manager, best wishes and hope are not a plan. Couple that with questionable moves regarding donations vs. escrow, Twitter account announcements, posting the image of an application on Binance...all before there’s any code?!? Not looking good. This would be a shame for it to have been bogus. And if it is bogus… How do people really live with themselves being crooks? It's easy to be a crook. Especially with the internet and not having to reveal your face. It's easier now more than ever. If felix doesn't release code soon, we'll be $500k worth of suckers. To pull off what felix has done so far(what we can see), he wouldn't even have had to leave his day job. P.S. I retweeted on twitter- whatever that is worth
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DANG! although is this news allowed to be released, with the Binance non disclosure agreements? after a quick look on the binance twitter, it turns out they give you this image to use after application, but nothing else can be discussed. source: https://twitter.com/cz_binance/status/958262732985221120Literally anyone can download this image off google and use it. http://bfy.tw/GVJ3How about some code or github material? A github or a fraction of new code should be released immediately to dispel any doubt that this is a scam Felix. The project can't take off until then. I looks too much like a long con, release some code for auditing so we can create a strong community
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Who cares about distribution???
Felix are we going to see the code on February 9th?
If not this is an elaborate long con and anyone still donating is letting greed rule their actions.
Everything we've seen can be created relatively easily.
Will there be code to be scrutinized on February 9th?
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Your request is valid, donators are automatically added to the list of testers, if requested Hey Felix! Can I be a tester??? Add this legendary dude to the testnet felix. And add me as well please
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Im confused with the donations are the donation is it split equally among all the donators or is it calculated for each person's donations
for example If i donated $1 would I get the same amount of stone as someone who donated $10,000
This has been discussed before. It is not clear but the consensus seems to be that it will be proportional to the value of what you donated in US dollars calculated at the end of the donation period or maybe at the time you transferred it. It would be pretty easy to game the system and make 10 donations of $1 if it was simply divided up equally among number of donators. Just imagine 1$ being a stake from the donation pool. The more $ the more stakes from total. Although that's never been confirmed. Not a lot of details have been released yet on how he is handling donations, whether or not your stake will be proportional to the donation amount, or if it decreases over a certain amount. Either way, it's pretty scary how all donations are collected and done even before a single line of code is presented. Really? Still no code till this day? I'm beginning to have doubts... ![Shocked](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/shocked.gif) Yeah, I haven't donated anything and don't mean to spread FUD or anything like that.... but there are a lot of red flags here for investors to consider. For one, felix mentioned in a previous post that he is able to spend time on this project thanks to his early contributions in BTC years ago. Sounds to me that if he made a huge profit from that and didn't need to work anymore, he wouldn't be so concerned about needing these donations to work on development for this one. Yet here we are, most of his posts are about new methods of donations, end of donation date, non-technical things like distribution structure, rather than the technology or code (where he can be called out on more easily), and if you look at his post history before this thread there are no clear indications that he is even a technical person. My 2 cents. We'll see on February 9th if Felix disappears and leaves the words "penis" on the opening post Another 40 eth transferred from the donation eth address
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Also why has Koger merited the thread?
I would love to hear why he did so.
Mr. Ahab
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=201896 Bitcoin Forum > Trust Trust summary for KogerThis user's password was reset recently.
This user recently woke up from a long period of inactivity. ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) Wow. how interesting.
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Also why has Koger merited the thread?
I would love to hear why he did so.
Mr. Ahab
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That sucks.
I am sorry to hear that.
I think I'll go check on my keys now too...
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Be careful who you donate too people.
Good luck to manta if you are legit
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Good luck with catching those scumballs...
Desktop wallets ftw
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