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SCAM - AVOID
READ THE TWO PAGES OF COMMENTS IN THIS THREAD - LOT OF SHILL SHIT
YOU WILL LOOSE YOUR COIN IF YOU INVEST - THERE IS NO PROJECT JUST A SCAM TO STEAL YOUR MONEY - YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED.
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I seem to see a lot of responses similar to ads, which makes me more cautious. I have no comment for PAYNEXT COIN. However, I would like to remind all of you to be cautious about the investigation of the upcoming ICO.
You need to only spend 5 minutes looking at basic due diligence aspects to see the following about Paynext and conclude it's a scam: - No team - No address even though it claims to be Swiss based most traffic (which is very low) if from Vietnam which I deduce to be the scam opperator(s) checking the site - Typos and unprofessional white paper / website see this example from the FAQ, one of many piss poor english and grammatical examples (surely any professional outfit in Switzerland seeking such large investments would take the time to use decent copy): PET is a cryptocurrency what used to pay for major e-commerce sites in the world such as eBay, Amazon, Alibaba and especially Payshoping.
- No conclusive approach to how they will become a payment processor - Payshopping website is nothingness and contradicts their claim to have PET (laughable) be used by Amazon and Ali! yeah right... - Claim in FAQ to be listed on exchanges at 5-8 USD!!! haha no professional ICO comments on things like this, they are not allowed! - 12.000.000 tokens to be released! Ha this is very low and like other grabs and run ICO's that have occurred It's an absolute scam.
Now wait till little scammer thanhpham comes back and posts some copy and paste crap to try and dilute my warning or make some pathetic defence of this daylight robbery. |
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You already posted that reply to your SHILL ACCOUNT.
I'm strongly of the belief you are the one behind this scam project.
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It's kind of funny your username is the same as an actor in the film Bitcoin Heist.
This is a scam and your drivel response is just and attempt to dilute my warnings.
How much have you collected form your scam so far? There is at least one person in page one of this thread who confirms this is a scam - he sent you money.
SCAM WARNING
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Warning : Project claims to be from Switzerland yet most of it's traffic is from Vietnam. http://paynext.io.hypestat.comThe traffic is so low that I can't believe for one minute this is a professional outfit. Compare the traffic to that of other ICO's and the volume of followers on social media and telegram. The operator of this scam clearly doesn't have the budget to buy google adverts or lot's of shill social media profiles. Scammy scamerson. |
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See their social media site (facebook, twitter, medium, telegram, instagram) and take a look their site. See coinmarketcap and also see the trading site. Trading time and date and value up - down.
1 - There social media lists NO INFORMATION ABOUT WHERE THEY ARE REGISTERED OFFICE OR WHO THEIR TEAM IS 2 - THEIR WEBSITE FAILS TO GIVE THIS INFORMATION EITHER!!! 3 - They're not even listed on exchanges or featured on CMC! They are not (nor will they ever be) trading because it's a SCAM. 4 - Do not insult me with your responses, you message is barely coherent and on point, it's just a message to try and dilute my genuine warnings of this project. SCAM WARNING -- DO NOT INVEST -- SCAM WARNING |
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You must be the sole team member for this (scam) project. The project claims to be based in Switzerland - where are the contact details on the website? What regulatory bodies are PayNext governed by?  Who is the team? Where are their profiles and linkedIn details? Why does the telegram chat only have the same fluff posts as found on the project social media profiles? There is nothing from the community and a poor amount of followers on Telegram group. |
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Think very hard before investing...
Website is unprofessional.
White paper full of typos.
NO TEAM!!!!
No Contact address.
Telegram channel has nothing going on
Social Media has no tangible information or community voice.
Fly by night money grab here people.
Guys, this is a huge scam.
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I have some information about this to share with everyone ,check it out!!  PAYNEXT (PET) is the HOTTEST ICO IN DECEMBER 2017 FROM SWITZERLAND built on the Ethereum blockchain platform with ERC20 Standard. BTCICO Timeline: 15/12/2017 – 15/01/2018 BTCPET will be available for sale ONLY 2 HOURS PER DAY (3:00PM – 5:00PM, GMT+1) BTCTotal PET available: 27,000,000 BTCTotal PET to be released in ICO: 12,000,000 - Initial price only from 0.5$ BTC30/12/2017: Allow token internal trading BTC1/2018: Allow LENDING on internal trading. :muscle:Targeted Price: 20$ REGISTER NOW to get REFERRAL COMMISSION Up To MORE THAN 11 LEVELS: https://paynext.io/register?sponsor=Paynextv PET IS NOT ONLY FOR INVESTMENT!!!  Paynext is also a potential ICO project which has a strong blockchain basis and clear use purposes: BTCPayment: integrated with Visa/Mastercard BTCE-Commerce: PET for direct payment for purchasing products on Amazon, Alibaba, eBay, etc… DON’T MISS YOUR BIGGEST OPPORTUNITY!!! More details at: BTCRegister: https://paynext.io/r/d6mdNlUQ BTCWhitepaper: http://paynext.io/documents/Paynext_Whitepaper.pdfBTCPresentation: https://paynext.io/documents/Paynext_Whitepaper.pdf |
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This looks so Scammy, I would really avoid it like the plague.
Concerns:
- Website looks like it was knocked together very quickly, app store links just link to the website
- No team mentioned on their website
- Bold statement about trying to get into payment processing for amazon, ali - again no team shown to backup any expertise or relationships in the market
- Worrying token sale structure - LUCKY SPIN?? WTF, that does not scream professionalism I would expect of anyone looking to tackle the e-commerce space
- So many dead links on the website #
You have been warned.
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@bitcoinbulk - agreed. And a good example of a constructive comment in this noisy forum.
The shilling does nothing. It's pointless drivel conducted by people who no marketing sense. More effective bounty hunters would (albeit somewhat in a biased manner) propose some more constructive thought on the offering like you suggest, arguing the case for such a TKN/Coin/Tech and it's potential.
The biggest problem faced by this team is getting the product to market and gaining traction very quickly. If they can do that then their market reach will make it very difficult for competitors to enter into the market.
I'm wondering with money already in place have they got much done ahead of the first development milestone on their roadmap i.e. have they mapped out the software and the moving parts.
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Read some of these posts, then you know why. Most of them are sponsored spam.
Exactly 400+ pages must inspire confidence in project Hahaha, no it does not. That menas that there is a lot of people interested in this project because is a great idea but that doesn't guarantee success. It means that there are genuine people interested in the discussion of the project + an incredible amount of shilling. Both don't say anything about the 'greatness' of the project. I agree with the newbie volkonsky and at the moment, the value of the tokens are only speculative, and there isn't much greatness in the project other than the brilliant idea. Which still needs to be excecuted, for the project to become great. But obviously there is a lot of interest in the project with 11321 backers and growing, with 55m tokens or 3+ days until the end of ICO. This is insane amount of people. Crypto sure has come far from what it used to be... What a vacuous comment. I expect nothing more from shill monkeys. This is the exact type of post that contributes 80% of this thread - it contributes nothing constructive it's the equivalent of a someone saying to a group "Isn't X great" and one of the other muppets nodding and saying "Yeah so good". AN if someone repeats the stats again I'm going to loose it. If your a fan of the project and looking at the stats then the CHANCES ARE that the people in a thread, dedicated to such an interest have been checking them and don't need to be told every time a single new token is sold. |
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I am reading missed signals for this ICO. Some articles are critical and some are very positive.
What is the general consensus here? Invest or not?
People posting here are more positive, but that is a biased view because coming here means you are already interested in the project. I would do my own research and read the whitepaper. People posting here a nearly all bounty shill monkeys. I wrote a python script to dump out the board data, you know what, only approx 12 pages of the 400+ have any really substantial topic of discussion. The rest are sh it like: "Yes much moon, I'm much optimistic for this project" "Team strong much negative I hodl" There's a torrent of shi(t)ll posts that come on flows of 2-4 posts every single time a difficult question is asked. I wish there was a filter button. |
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I'm still a believer that the doubts could be addressed. It's amazing how the thread is quiet until that post resurfaces then all the shill monkeys come out and dilute it. Where are the community admins and why are they ignoring those concerns??
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you blind people have you ever reasearched a bit? only 5 minutes into google and chill... compare products! I've done research on UTrust and found confido ... utrust can't hold a candle to Confido. First of all utrust basically just let a random person be third party escrow whereas Confido uses a smart contract as escrow. It's also trying to raise over 50 Million in its ICO (now reduced to 25Million)... In Q4 2017. Those UTrust guys are about 6 months too late to the greedy ICOs cap craze. Confido raised 375K. Oh, and UTrust has a 43% higher fee than Confido. Finally, the tokens. There's just no point in UTrust tokens. In their whitepaper, they try to say they will be worth something one day because funds collected from UTrust will be used to buyback UTrust tokens from exchanges and burn them, so their value will go up over time... ...Ok, but why hold them in the first place? They want it to eventually be the token you use to transact on their service, as in - they want people to pay using UTrust tokens but we all know thats ridiculous. People want to pay in BTC, ETH, and XMR, not UTrust. Confido gives the tokens value even if no one ever uses them as payment on the platform because you get proportional dividends from the service fee. THATS the future of dApps - where you get passive benefits from holding the tokens. and let us not forget the scam infos going round about Marc Brühwiler with companies in panama https://www.beobachter.ch/finanzen/vermogensverwaltung-kapitalfehler-inbegriffen i'm swiss, i know the story back then... and beobachter.ch is official, go check yourself hope i opened your eyes. but a coin has a bit of hype and everbody jumps right in Thanks for the Confido link - what is interesting is the fact they still don't have their App out and their price has gone from around 33c to over $1 in a short period of trading. https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/confido/ |
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Nobody works at this Adress 🇨🇭
I call the Lederwaren shop
It's not going to be the shop or have anything to do with them! Look around the street, huge credit Suisse over the road, looks a high end district, did you consider what is above the Handbag shop? Office space perhaps!!! |
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It's a C/O (Care off address) so the building is most likely a brass plate company residence. This is not uncommon. They're decision to register in Switzerland is probably due to a better tax rates and the fact it's a mecca for finance (think Wolf of Wall street) which might suit any legal delectation of monies raised during the ICO. http://www.businessdictionary.com/definition/brassplate-company.html |
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Hey im a Western Europe Citizen.
I wanted to invest in this Ico, but I hesitate ;why I should not wait till after the ico wenn utrust is in the exchanges ?!
Utrust Team, can you show a proof of your system a Video in youtube what show your technical Progress , and why you make a photo with the AMAZoN logo like you already know that amazon will accept utrust ?
Give me three reasons to invest in this project.
Thank you so much,
Andreas
Read the white paper and look at the road map. They don't have a product yet, it will be built as outlined in the roadmap. |
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Why has the community Utrust team not answered this important question! Why do they keep avoiding the issue: Why is the director of UTRUST Switzerland AG, Marc Philipp Brühwiler [1], who apparently was involved in a financial scam in 2004 [2] not listed on your web site? What is his relation to your team? |
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To my knowledge you have never contacted us to talk about your case, or at least I have never heard about it. Instead of spreading information carefully selected to further what feels like your personal agenda against us, you can contact us through the official channels (Telegram, Email) and we can talk about a solution for your case, if you are actually looking for a solution to your pre-ICO purchase.
I'd be interested to see if you give a straight answer on this as I've been following this thread and would assert that he's asked this several times and the answer has been dodged, then what looks like shill accounts drown out what is a legit question. It should be a very easy question to answer. |
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