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November 17, 2017, 11:53:04 AM
Last edit: November 17, 2017, 12:12:22 PM by mrsaint
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People posting here a nearly all bounty shill monkeys.

I wrote a python script to dump out the board data, you know what, only approx 12 pages of the 400+ have any really substantial topic of discussion. The rest are sh it like:

"Yes much moon, I'm much optimistic for this project"
"Team strong much negative I hodl"

There's a torrent of shi(t)ll posts that come on flows of 2-4 posts every single time a difficult question is asked.

It's a good lesson. This ICO and this thread in particular are prototypical examples of the lack of quality and level of expertise of people who are getting involved (or paid to) in ICOs.

It's all just fluff, just like the numerous press releases and (paid) online articles and spam tweets.

And it's so easy to detect, too, if you are actually willing to look. For example, since it hasn't been mentioned yet, go to their homepage. On the very top, just before the "buy tokens" button, utrust quotes Business Insider in the lead headline saying, "The payments platform of the future". Really? Utrust didn't provide a link to the source, but it doesn't take Google-fu to find it yourself:

http://markets.businessinsider.com/news/stocks/UTRUST-Brings-Consumer-Protections-to-Cryptocurrencies-Announces-Pre-ICO-1002273983

That's right! It's one of the many shiny but empty company press releases that got reprinted in the markets section of Business Insider, just like any other PR Newswire release that gets reprinted there. Get it? Utrust is quoting THEMSELVES, saying how they are the payments platform of the future, and they make it look as if it was Business Insider who said these words. It just reeks.

Want more? A few steps further down, under "Featured in" you have a big Yahoo Finance logo with the quote "UTRUST will implement the world’s first cryptocurrency consumer protection into its platform." And where does it link to? To another company press release...
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November 17, 2017, 11:54:32 AM
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Still would love to hear something about their marketing plans after the ICO. This project can just work out if the userbase is big enough. Sure, start small and expand is a good way but what exactly do you want to do to expand? How do you want to get the average person into UTrust and with it into crypto? Your team comes from a marketing agency, don't tell me you guys don't have thought about it.

It wasn't any announcements lately at all, neither about marketing, nor about anything else. Maybe after the ICO the team will give us some updates about the future plans.

It's too early for anymore marketing. now is the time for development of the product and once launched , then you do marketing.

Unless the next update is in a long time in the future, there is always a place for 'marketing' which can include telling/presenting to others about the project, articles etc.

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November 17, 2017, 12:06:33 PM
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Don’t worry for the marketing and the communication, I think Utrust team will continue to handle that very well. The ico is a big sucess and it’s also thanks to the good marketing the team do. A lot of reviews and visibility in crypto world for Utrust is very great.
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November 17, 2017, 12:18:58 PM
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Still would love to hear something about their marketing plans after the ICO. This project can just work out if the userbase is big enough. Sure, start small and expand is a good way but what exactly do you want to do to expand? How do you want to get the average person into UTrust and with it into crypto? Your team comes from a marketing agency, don't tell me you guys don't have thought about it.

It wasn't any announcements lately at all, neither about marketing, nor about anything else. Maybe after the ICO the team will give us some updates about the future plans.

It's too early for anymore marketing. now is the time for development of the product and once launched , then you do marketing.

Since when you start with marketing when something launched? That's bad marketing at all and then you already have lost. You start marketing before something launches because otherwise no one knows that you are there.

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November 17, 2017, 12:38:35 PM
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The 1 year lock for private investors is really a good news and will preserve the utrust price. If they manage within this year to develop a full platform and integrate it with at least one big vendor, the price will go to the moon.

i totally agree with you, this is a good move for the rest of us and for the project. i really hope that they will deliver. there are many projects out there, who tell you a lot of lies, make a good marketing and run off with your money. i read a lot off shill here too and nowadays newbie accounts are popping out of nowhere and start fudding, i am asking myself, where were them since the beginning of this thread? why now fudding at the end of the ico?
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November 17, 2017, 12:57:36 PM
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Still would love to hear something about their marketing plans after the ICO. This project can just work out if the userbase is big enough. Sure, start small and expand is a good way but what exactly do you want to do to expand? How do you want to get the average person into UTrust and with it into crypto? Your team comes from a marketing agency, don't tell me you guys don't have thought about it.

It wasn't any announcements lately at all, neither about marketing, nor about anything else. Maybe after the ICO the team will give us some updates about the future plans.

They will give us some information, looking forward to it! They have their own strategy and plan and i think it will be very good.
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November 17, 2017, 12:59:37 PM
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The 1 year lock for private investors is really a good news and will preserve the utrust price. If they manage within this year to develop a full platform and integrate it with at least one big vendor, the price will go to the moon.

i totally agree with you, this is a good move for the rest of us and for the project. i really hope that they will deliver. there are many projects out there, who tell you a lot of lies, make a good marketing and run off with your money. i read a lot off shill here too and nowadays newbie accounts are popping out of nowhere and start fudding, i am asking myself, where were them since the beginning of this thread? why now fudding at the end of the ico?

me also agree with you. this is great news. Utrust team is very professional and hard workers, i think team will cover work in a year.  if they done a year that will be big change and also pluse point for Utrust and investors. this project gonna fast goes on moon.
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November 17, 2017, 01:02:31 PM
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People posting here a nearly all bounty shill monkeys.

I wrote a python script to dump out the board data, you know what, only approx 12 pages of the 400+ have any really substantial topic of discussion. The rest are sh it like:

"Yes much moon, I'm much optimistic for this project"
"Team strong much negative I hodl"

There's a torrent of shi(t)ll posts that come on flows of 2-4 posts every single time a difficult question is asked.



Hi utrust team..I'm a investor and supporter and I see this ''mrsaint'' user has 28 posts and all attacking utrust and I find it strange..

he is from monetha and there are multiple ways to catch him..

- he uses the same Writing Style as the user ''monetha.io'' - I copied all texts/replies from both users and you can use an online tool to compare writing type and it matches by 93% (above 75% is considered as pure match)
probability 9/10
- he posts at the same hours as ''monetha.io'' and I made calculations of posts/time frames/days
probability 9/10
- he registred the account with 4 days diference many months ago (at same day time frame hour with a pass recovery)
http://archive.li/z1PFL
June 20, 2017, 03:05:45 PM - Monetha.io - password reset via email
June 14, 2017, 04:44:57 PM - mrsaint - password reset via email
probability 9/10

If you add all probabilities of the 3 separated events (X 3) you get a 10/10 probability of = mrsaint is the same user as monetha.io

this is pure math/probability and there is no change of error

I did this for fun and I did invest in utrust..my calculations are purely based in evidence and I have no conflict with monetha
I'm a statistic person graduated in New Delhi
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November 17, 2017, 01:10:44 PM
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Great work vmultilevel
Thanks for clearing this out!

Monetha will never beat UTRUST! Cheesy
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November 17, 2017, 01:21:08 PM
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Pls I can't access telegram group again, is it working or did someone ban me?

Its working without ptoblem in me. You can join here: https://t.me/utrustofficial
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November 17, 2017, 01:22:30 PM
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Actually, most of the fud in utrust thread is coming from monetha investors.

I can understand they are trying to protect their investment but spreading fud isn't the way.

I can advise them to just dump your monetha and buy utrust Smiley

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November 17, 2017, 01:25:41 PM
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Actually, most of the fud in utrust thread is coming from monetha investors.

I can understand they are trying to protect their investment but spreading fud isn't the way.

I can advise them to just dump your monetha and buy utrust Smiley

I guess there have both fud and pumping as well in this thread so there was overall pretty much equilibrium
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November 17, 2017, 01:36:18 PM
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Actually, most of the fud in utrust thread is coming from monetha investors.

I can understand they are trying to protect their investment but spreading fud isn't the way.

I can advise them to just dump your monetha and buy utrust Smiley

I guess there have both fud and pumping as well in this thread so there was overall pretty much equilibrium

That's what also came to my mind  Smiley Anyway, be it fudding or shilling, it also somehow shows the relevance of the project and the level of awareness UTRUST has gained.

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November 17, 2017, 01:43:33 PM
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Actually, most of the fud in utrust thread is coming from monetha investors.

I can understand they are trying to protect their investment but spreading fud isn't the way.

I can advise them to just dump your monetha and buy utrust Smiley

Also people dont have to be experts in this field to participate in ICO, everyone just wants to get a share of this token and a chance to get some money out of it. I dont see why there should only be technical posts here, not everyone has the knowledge but still wants to be a part of this project.

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November 17, 2017, 02:06:06 PM
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there is only 2day 23hour left ,utrust crowd-sale will end ,i look it from utrust.io ,is right?
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November 17, 2017, 02:17:42 PM
Last edit: November 17, 2017, 02:44:56 PM by mrsaint
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I did this for fun and I did invest in utrust..my calculations are purely based in evidence and I have no conflict with monetha
I'm a statistic person graduated in New Delhi [/color][/size][/font]

A "statistic person" from New Delhi, eh? Cheesy And a blind one, that is, or why would you need a 20pt font size to scribble down your "scientific" findings?

Seriously dude, you have to try harder than this. For starters, asking critical questions and revealing cheap marketing tricks has nothing to do with "attacking" anyone. Second, until now I haven't had the honor of someone analyzing my "writing style", so thank you very much. I guarantee you it's the kind of writing style you'd see more frequently if you were to make the effort of reading content outside your little shilling bubble. Third, utrust is the only ICO-like venture I have participated in so far - in fact, I did not participate in the ICO at all but only in the pre-ICO, as I said before. I have no clue about monetha nor would I have any interest in them after my appalling experience with utrust and its shills. I assume it's just how it goes with most ICOs. Forth, even though it's none of your business, I registered here in June in order to be able to contact a member from Kraken to accelerate my tier 2 verification. And fifth, had you read what I wrote you would have also known that my very first criticism (="attack" in your vocabulary) was expressed when utrust drastically changed their terms and applied them retrospectively months after the pre-ICO. It was too obvious to ignore, and what followed was a further research by others and myself that revealed all the things wrong with this company.
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November 17, 2017, 02:25:36 PM
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Pls I can't access telegram group again, is it working or did someone ban me?

Its working without ptoblem in me. You can join here: https://t.me/utrustofficial

thanks but works not for me. i have used the telegram search with "utrustofficial"
now it works.  Smiley
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November 17, 2017, 02:31:11 PM
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Read some of these posts, then you know why. Most of them are sponsored spam.
Exactly
400+ pages must inspire confidence in project

Hahaha, no it does not.
That menas that there is a lot of people interested in this project because is a great idea but that doesn't guarantee success.


It means that there are genuine people interested in the discussion of the project + an incredible amount of shilling. Both don't say anything about the 'greatness' of the project.

I agree with the newbie volkonsky and at the moment, the value of the tokens are only speculative, and there isn't much greatness in the project other than the brilliant idea. Which still needs to be excecuted, for the project to become great.

But obviously there is a lot of interest in the project with 11321 backers and growing, with 55m tokens or 3+ days until the end of ICO.

This is insane amount of people. Crypto sure has come far from what it used to be...
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November 17, 2017, 02:50:58 PM
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Actually, most of the fud in utrust thread is coming from monetha investors.

I can understand they are trying to protect their investment but spreading fud isn't the way.

I can advise them to just dump your monetha and buy utrust Smiley

hmmm, we should do the same like monetha.io aka mrnewbie Smiley make mrnewbie accounts and start fudding at monetha <.<"

actually, i dont want to go lower myself to such a degree, that i have to fud over others projects like monetha does here. if they are so confident with their project, why fud here then /hmmm
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November 17, 2017, 02:53:59 PM
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Read some of these posts, then you know why. Most of them are sponsored spam.
Exactly
400+ pages must inspire confidence in project

Hahaha, no it does not.
That menas that there is a lot of people interested in this project because is a great idea but that doesn't guarantee success.


It means that there are genuine people interested in the discussion of the project + an incredible amount of shilling. Both don't say anything about the 'greatness' of the project.

I agree with the newbie volkonsky and at the moment, the value of the tokens are only speculative, and there isn't much greatness in the project other than the brilliant idea. Which still needs to be excecuted, for the project to become great.

But obviously there is a lot of interest in the project with 11321 backers and growing, with 55m tokens or 3+ days until the end of ICO.

This is insane amount of people. Crypto sure has come far from what it used to be...

What a vacuous comment. I expect nothing more from shill monkeys. This is the exact type of post that contributes 80% of this thread - it contributes nothing constructive it's the equivalent of a someone saying to a group "Isn't X great" and one of the other muppets nodding and saying "Yeah so good".

AN if someone repeats the stats again I'm going to loose it. If your a fan of the project and looking at the stats then the CHANCES ARE that the people in a thread, dedicated to such an interest have been checking them and don't need to be told every time a single new token is sold.
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