The exchange itself looks nice. Nice to have.
But looking at your profile, it done't look that nice lol...

Not sure who will trust someone will -2. Oh well.

Using fake KvK numbers is very common for scammers, and a huge red flag. I didn't need much research for that.

Using a fake KvK number? Well enter the KvK number at the official website of the The Dutch Chamber of Commerce and you will see www.bitvigo.com registered under the name ELEMANDER GROUP B.V. : https://www.kvk.nl/orderstraat/product-kiezen/?kvknummer=674299470000&origq=elemander+group
So what other do is not our problem, and agian go to there official website and you will see that www.elemander.com is registered as our official domain name.

That's not really a strong argument.

Well give me a strong argument, not things you don't know anything about.


I have never before seen anyone claim credibility based on an SSL certificate. There's no way this would stop a scammer from scamming.

Well then don't trust you bank websites, because is MAY be fake.

That's the KvK number I told you, it's not what both your websites showed me.

Well you are wrong : http://elemander.com/contact-us.html   & https://www.bitvigo.com/support/ in footer.


I tried to start a public debate about it. Having a self-moderated ANN-thread is a big red flag already, so I expected my posts to be deleted. That makes this board the right place to continue the discussion in public.

Public discussion is good, when it's based on real information and not same wrong letters on the site.

I find it hard to believe you spend 100k on advisory services, and nobody told you your KvK number was wrong. Or how to spell Western Union for instance.
I never said crypto is regulated, I said it's monitored, and I don't know a single company that trades Bitcoin from anonymous users.

O noo fire, we missed the letter 'N' red flag.

Again crypto is not regulate nor monitored, there are enough company's that provide anonymous service like us.

Do you care to comment on the logos taken from The telegraph, Business Insider, TechCrunch and The Times? You ignored that part in your reply.

I'm willing to take that risk when there's several red flags. I love to be wrong on this one, but until I'm sure about it, it seems like a good thing to warn others. And for that reason I've created this thread.

You are making an accusation that we are not the company that we are talking about. Never heard that one. Please do more research and come back.
If you have more questions please contact COMMODO to ask about the validation of our website: https://ssl.comodo.com/ or mail us at bitvigo.hq@elemander.com

Bitcointalk community: Any thoughts on this?

The company could be a registered company but  it does not have a licence. The biggest error from CA they issue european certificat without verified the company address.



In usa its imposible to get the EV ssl without being a lagal company with a physical address.

(Possible) Scammers Profile Link: Bitvigo Official
I have not tried the site myself, I'm just trying to save some innocent victims.
He clearly only leaves all positive comments in his topic and deletes the rest. So far he's gained negative trust from 3 (non-DT) accounts.

What happened: Bitvigo Official opens several self moderated topics to promote his website (bitvigo.com). I posted in his thread to ask about things that don't add up on the website. I got a response, but after that my posts were deleted, so I open this topic.

My first (deleted) post:

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The Dutch Chamber of Commerce is called KvK ("Kamer van Koophandel").

Can you explain to me how you got KvK number 669903 while the official KvK website tells me it doesn't exist (a KvK number should have 8 numbers)?

You claim to be part of ELEMANDER GROUP B.V., which according to has a different KvK number, and sells self-developed electronic devices.

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The address on the website is a shared office building, the (official) address on the KvK website is an old residential apartment. Although this could be true, the official address certainly doesn't look like a location I would trust to send my money to.

My second (deleted) post:

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That is what I just did, and it turns out it's different than what you're claiming.

I find it hard to believe you accidentally had the wrong KvK number on two different websites.

Bedrijvenpagina.nl describes Elemander Group B.V. as a company that issues prepaid and debit Mastercards in the EU via post order. That does get closer indeed.
Forgive me for not believing anything I read on the internet, but if a financial company shows a wrong number, I think some questions are in place.

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My gut feeling tells me the logos on the site (The telegraph, Business Insider, TechCrunch and The Times) are only there to inspire confidence, I can't find any mention of Bitvigo on their websites.

In one of his topics, he writes this:
This is not true. Any (official) Bitcoin related company in the Netherlands requires AML/KYC data (higher monetary amounts require more verification), and laws are only getting stricter. Crypto is monitored, and I can't imagine a legit company would claim otherwise.

Any thoughts on this?

Hello,
Normally I use Bitfinex for my transactions but they wont allow me to log in with my 2FA token right now saying its invalid. It's valid allright!
Anyway, I sent them a support ticket and hope they will resolve.
Can you recommend some exchanges that will allow me to deposit for example 1 BTC and withdraw it again as Monero without asking for ID?
I am not interested in verifying because it is time consuming and I dont trust exchanges anymore after Bitstamp forced me to Payout my XRP right before they sky rocketed.
Thank you in advance

email not getting verification or not getting code to email

so its cashout done to any bank without verification needed ?