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Other than the fact that you are registered in Panama, how can you ensure that Havelock will not go the way of BitFunder and BTCT? I don't see how you guys are any more exempt from the same vulnerabilities that they were exposed to.
Investors could be S.O.L. if a month from now the feds come crashing down your door with immense pressure making you close down.
The Panama Fund is a registered licensed Private Investment company that follows the regulations required in the jurisdiction in which we operate. We worked hard with local regulators to find a Legal way to offer our Bitcoin Venture Capital Fund. Unless new Laws are written or existing Laws are rewritten we will continue to operate as is. Thank you, Havelock Investments It's not that simple, if you are offering securities to U.S. citizens or anyone anywhere in the world for that matter, your business is operating in their jurisdiction. Basically an unregulated stock exchange, which, just like BF and BTCT, when you get pressured you pretty much won't have any choice but to shut down. Not that I don't appreciate your service, but you're delusional if you think you're protected just because you are registered in Panama.
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Other than the fact that you are registered in Panama, how can you ensure that Havelock will not go the way of BitFunder and BTCT? I don't see how you guys are any more exempt from the same vulnerabilities that they were exposed to.
Investors could be S.O.L. if a month from now the feds come crashing down your door with immense pressure making you close down.
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Looks like Havelock is down
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Disagree with me if you like. But this is how i see it. no fancy words. no bullshit. facts.
Facts require concrete evidence. You have offered nothing but a hypothesis. No facts. All bullshit. I said he would lose your money, and he did. Maybe you should re-evaluate how you apportion the burden of proof. He lost the money cause of some unforeseen and extreme circumstances. You weren't saying "BTCT is going to close down, and it's going to cause the market to crash, don't buy in!" You said "I don't trust this guy, you shouldn't buy in." He had improved the NAV according to the first report and was very transparent with everything, and is STILL transparent with everything. So don't even try to act like you knew what you were talking about, you were spouting bullshit and still are.
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So... surely something has to change.
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Well... If anyone was watching the last hour... Holy shit.
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How many shares sold so far?
Around 7 million. Where do you see that? TAT can give the correct numbers. Meanwhile: BitFunder, 5 mil issued, 1,865,916 available. BTCTC: 6 mil issued, 2128376 available. Havelock: 500000 issued, 281254 available. Did I got this wrong? Yeah they didn't issue that many shares on each one
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Admittedly, that is a little strange...
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So only two *tax paying* Norwegians with that name ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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Is there anybody know, how may shares bought to be regarded as a successful IPO? Is there any time limit for it?
9500 BTC worth of shares.
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Not a FUDster, but this was a mammoth sized IPO. It was never going to be a quick flip for anyone. I think that as we see the massive collapse of these faux mining securities (happening at this very moment), we'll see more investment in operations like this one, where transparency is there and it operates more like a legitimate business.
The IPO will eventually sell out, it just won't be today or tomorrow. I think most holders are genuine long term holders looking to make a fortune off of the potential of this stock.
Signs of significant progress over the next month and a half wouldn't hurt sales either.
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Wow burnside with the blindside. You just fucked a lot of people. Luckily, I am not one of them.
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Wait a minute, people who bid more than 0.003 actually pay their bidding price?
Why not? If you're bidding for such a high price even though there are 8 million shares and you know there is not that much demand, well you deserve paying high. If people are willing to pay high for no reason at IPO what company would turn down free cash? Which goes back to my point earlier, why anyone is paying above IPO price at this point in time is beyond my comprehension.
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Wait a minute, people who bid more than 0.003 actually pay their bidding price?
...yes.
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Well they have til November to sell.
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Why anyone is placing bids higher than IPO price right now is beyond my comprehension. Do they think that 6,000,000 shares are going to be bought up out of nowhere in the next hour? Sometimes I fear for the average Bitcoin Securities investor.
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So? Use BTC-TC. Or Havelock. They will be filled according to the bids. I agree on BitFunder, especially on WeExchange - it is a pain to make it work, and when it decides to not work anymore, support does not reply. yeah, someone still has to explain me why bitfunder is so popular, I really don't get it It's popular in the instance of this IPO because the underlying asset is on BitFunder and the other two exchanges will serve as pass throughs. As to *why* they chose BitFunder, I don't know. It's a piece of crap compared to BTCT and Havelock. BTCT really takes the cake I would say.
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I look like a moron right about now
edit: confirmed for moron OH WELL
Hahah, respect for not deleting these posts. +1
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Yo deprived eagles -3 over the chiefs good bet or bad bet
Baddd Bet. KC's got a Defense and a competent QB. I wouldn't feel comfortable on that game at all. The Eagles just LOST by 3 at home to the *Chargers* whaowhoahowhoahohohoohawhohaohaow the chargers are a good team thanks WHAT DID I SAY FLOATES WHAT DID I TELL YOU
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