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Soo... this strange thing happened. In the midst of a block I get this:
20108 2013-09-19 13:33:14 2:12:55 128756841 3964 0.00000022 258846 26.12812726 24 confirmations left
Then the 6 blocks after I get none. All the while, my cockroaches are silently churning hashes. I restarted the nest and things appear to be working okay now.
Any ideas what would cause that?
you probably went on backup pool at the end of the block, and since slush is using score system the last shares of the block has more value than thge prev. for example if you are hashing 2 hours but missed the last 12minutes from that block - this would happen ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) How on earth would that happen? For all intents and purposes I missed out on 7 full blocks while I was away. No power outage. No ISP interuptions. It gave me not. ![Undecided](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/undecided.gif)
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Soo... this strange thing happened. In the midst of a block I get this:
20108 2013-09-19 13:33:14 2:12:55 128756841 3964 0.00000022 258846 26.12812726 24 confirmations left
Then the 6 blocks after I get none. All the while, my cockroaches are silently churning hashes. I restarted the nest and things appear to be working okay now.
Any ideas what would cause that?
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I've noticed that my home rig running six USB miners (roughly 2Ghash/s) and CGMiner will show a diff setting of 3 when I restart it after a crash. It will drop back down to diff 1 after a while.
My other rig pushing 25 USB miners is set for diff 4 (recommended setting via the drop-down setting on my worker setting page for 8 Ghash/s) and if I restart it then CGMiner shows the diff set at 8 initially. Again, it drops back down to diff 4 after awhile.
This is just what I've observed recently, I'm not complaining in any way.
As you may have seen by my previous post, I only have 7 running. The diff floats between 1 and 3. Typically it runs at 2 though. Things have been running smoothly for several days now and I'm not seeing any issues thus far. I have seen my HW error frequency change based on where I point my fan though. It's been fun learning how to get this all tuned up. I may invest in some more hardware once Capitol Hill gets a more intelligble stance on digital coinage outlined. Until then, it's very amusing to have a hobby that tries to pay for itself.
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USB miners always work at Diff 1, so I don't know why you're trying to change them...
I beg to differ there sir. While they start out at 1, mine auto adjust to 2. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- (5s):2.480G (avg):2.338Gh/s | A:43015 R:25 HW:400 WU:32.6/m ST: 3 SS: 0 NB: 165 LW: 88420 GF: 1 RF: 0 Connected to stratum.bitcoin.cz diff 2 with stratum as user *snipped* Block: *snipped*... Diff:86.9M Started: [22:47:05] Best share: 24.9K -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Pool management Settings Display options Quit AMU 0: | 333.8M/334.1Mh/s | A:6229 R:2 HW:61 WU:4.7/m AMU 1: | 333.8M/334.1Mh/s | A:6113 R:4 HW:58 WU:4.6/m AMU 2: | 333.8M/334.3Mh/s | A:6137 R:2 HW:66 WU:4.7/m AMU 3: | 334.1M/334.2Mh/s | A:6230 R:3 HW:60 WU:4.7/m AMU 4: | 333.9M/334.1Mh/s | A:6117 R:7 HW:56 WU:4.6/m AMU 5: | 334.3M/334.1Mh/s | A:6134 R:7 HW:58 WU:4.6/m AMU 6: | 334.1M/334.1Mh/s | A:6055 R:0 HW:41 WU:4.7/m --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
[2013-09-10 22:53:58] Accepted 680475fe Diff 2/2 AMU 0 [2013-09-10 22:53:59] Accepted 243a23f4 Diff 7/2 AMU 0 [2013-09-10 22:54:00] Accepted 367a7e3a Diff 4/2 AMU 3 [2013-09-10 22:54:18] Accepted 11e8f5f0 Diff 14/2 AMU 1 [2013-09-10 22:54:22] Accepted 619cc0c7 Diff 2/2 AMU 3 [2013-09-10 22:54:24] Accepted 6b2efba6 Diff 2/2 AMU 5 [2013-09-10 22:54:27] Accepted 25019fd2 Diff 6/2 AMU 3 [2013-09-10 22:54:31] Accepted 1f31c325 Diff 8/2 AMU 5 [2013-09-10 22:54:33] Accepted 2198509f Diff 7/2 AMU 6 [2013-09-10 22:54:37] Accepted 385ccca1 Diff 4/2 AMU 5 [2013-09-10 22:54:39] Accepted 32e1a6f6 Diff 5/2 AMU 4 [2013-09-10 22:54:44] Accepted 2526a1d3 Diff 6/2 AMU 0 [2013-09-10 22:54:49] Accepted 3959480a Diff 4/2 AMU 4 [2013-09-10 22:54:52] Accepted 26836b95 Diff 6/2 AMU 5 [2013-09-10 22:54:53] Accepted 1c54aed9 Diff 9/2 AMU 0 [2013-09-10 22:54:57] Accepted 0b11aad9 Diff 23/2 AMU 0 [2013-09-10 22:55:24] Accepted 3ecc1d6c Diff 4/2 AMU 4 [2013-09-10 22:55:28] Accepted 040395f6 Diff 63/2 AMU 3 [2013-09-10 22:55:28] Accepted 5747d5e2 Diff 2/2 AMU 4 [2013-09-10 22:55:30] Accepted 491ff6b3 Diff 3/2 AMU 1 [2013-09-10 22:55:37] Accepted 6e0ededf Diff 2/2 AMU 3 [2013-09-10 22:55:39] Accepted 3f8b5a4d Diff 4/2 AMU 3 [2013-09-10 22:55:42] Accepted 46682442 Diff 3/2 AMU 5 [2013-09-10 22:55:46] Accepted 28766d97 Diff 6/2 AMU 2 [2013-09-10 22:55:57] Accepted 4f581903 Diff 3/2 AMU 5 [2013-09-10 22:56:01] Accepted 1102095c Diff 15/2 AMU 6 [2013-09-10 22:56:09] Accepted 26cf0c94 Diff 6/2 AMU 4 [2013-09-10 22:56:10] Accepted 23451b8c Diff 7/2 AMU 6 [2013-09-10 22:56:12] Accepted 382821ba Diff 4/2 AMU 3
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So what you're saying then is that the 1/1 shares have value at the cost of devaluation of the higher rated shares?
I am not quite sure i get what you are saying, but probably: yes. If you submit 1-shares, you will submit more shares to the server, but they will give you less score. If you set the diff higher, you will submit less shares, but they will score higher. That way, your average score will always be the same. Higher diff means more variance but less network load. Okay, that is helpful to know. I'm still wrapping my head around all of this so I appreciate the responses.
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a Diff 65750061/1 share will find a block Pools distribute Diff1 shares historically to give miners something easier to work on and to count so miners can be paid - now that pools distribute variable difficulty shares (higher for faster miners) they usually convert back to diff1 for counting shares and paying miners https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/DifficultyPools do not distribute shares. You find shares and send them to the pool. Difficulty does not effect how long it takes to calculate the hash, you dont get "something easier to work on", you just dont have to calculate that many hashes before one fits given diff. Your miners calculate hundreds of thousands of hashes per second. Those match a certain difficulty (and all lower ones). You choose a diff and send all hashes matching at least that diff as shares to the server. You tell the server which number is yours, and based on that the server can calculate your hashing power. If you set a higher diff in the pool config, your miners will do exactly what they did before, they will not calculate more or less or easier tasks or anything. Your mining client will just send less of your hashes to the pool, and they will be rated higher. The pool suggests a difficulty of 64 for ASICS running 60 - 120 GH/s. I would think that the difficulty could be set much higher than 64. Maybe the purpose is to submit many shares to smooth out the variance? I am not sure how this number is chosen. I noticed on one pool I set it very low by mistake and I hardly had any earnings. So what you're saying then is that the 1/1 shares have value at the cost of devaluation of the higher rated shares?
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Not a bad run so far...
Yeah! I want to go on record and blame this good luck on the DIFF. so keep that in mind when we have bad luck it cant be the diff. *apology* I am new to this whole thing and even though I've been trying to read as much as I can the last few weeks, it's a lot to absorb. Please forgive this possibly stupid question.*/apology* What is DIFF? It refers to difficulty, it an automatic thing which makes mining bitcoin more difficult the faster they are found, basically its to keep the bitcoin law true "coins can only be found once every 10 minutes (on average)". That the jist of it, I am also a newb so might have forgotten something :-) Thank you. How does it relate to the Diff 1/1 output?
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Thank you! That is very good to know.
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Not a bad run so far...
Yeah! I want to go on record and blame this good luck on the DIFF. so keep that in mind when we have bad luck it cant be the diff. *apology* I am new to this whole thing and even though I've been trying to read as much as I can the last few weeks, it's a lot to absorb. Please forgive this possibly stupid question.*/apology* What is DIFF?
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... to set up seperate workers for each device or to pool them together? Yes I am new to this. I apparently don't know the terms well enough to formulate this question into a search that yields results on these forums. Thanks! ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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Once again, many thanks!! Still some fine tuning to do but it's working.
(5s):362.7M (avg):333.5Mh/s | A:893 R:0 HW:12 WU:4.4/m ST: 3 SS: 0 NB: 35 LW: 2633 GF: 0 RF: 0 Connected to ***snipped*** Block: ***snipped***... Diff:65.8M Started: [15:42:07] Best share: 207 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Pool management Settings Display options Quit AMU 0: | 334.1M/334.1Mh/s | A:893 R:0 HW:12 WU:4.4/m --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Thanks for the feedback! I have swapped out the USB hub and can already see a huge difference after only 5 minutes. Time will tell if this hub does the job.
(5s):203.7M (avg):290.6Mh/s | A:14 R:0 HW:0 WU:3.6/m ST: 3 SS: 0 NB: 2 LW: 51 GF: 0 RF: 0 Connected to ***snipped*** Block: ***snipped***... Diff:65.8M Started: [12:33:25] Best share: 9 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Pool management Settings Display options Quit AMU 0: | 334.3M/331.8Mh/s | A:14 R:0 HW:0 WU:3.9/m
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Hi. ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) I've spent tens of hours pouring over forums, reading through hardware and software writeups and technical information. I can assure you that I have no illusions of getting rich from mining. I am more wanting to dabble. Learn how how the whole process works so that I can teach my children. I work in IT, having had some history as a field tech and desk side support before moving into Unix administration. So none of this is alien to me yet, it seems that getting to clear, unencumbered information about the finer points is the bigger challenge than mining coins. What I currently have in hand - - A desire to learn how to do this.
- an RPi: to which I have loaded Raspian and updated
- a powered USB hub
- some ASIC USB block eruptors: I think that the correct designation is Sapphire? I am finding that info on exactly what these are and who actually makes them seems rather vague. If you can help me clear that up I'd be thankful.
- cgminer
I have the system up and running sort of... here's my impediment and where I really could use some help/direction. Can I get some help translating this into layman readable form? I ran a single block erupter last night and after a few hours had the following... (5s):249.1M (avg):399.4Mh/s | A:1 R:0 HW:968 WU:3.5/m ST: 3 SS: 0 NB: 40 LW: 3298 GF: 0 RF: 0 Connected to ***snipped*** Block: ***snipped***... Diff:65.8M Started: [07:38:59] Best share: 873 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Pool management Settings Display options Quit AMU 0: | 364.4M/399.4Mh/s | A:1 R:0 HW:968 WU: 3.5/m
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