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So is this scam dead already?  Again... this has nothing to do with a privacy XRB fork. If you actually took the time to read it you'd realize that |
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Cool project. I've been working on a project for trading physical non-bearer assets, hopefully will get around to announcing soon
Sounds interesting. Definitely let me know when you do. Always like reading up on new tech coming out. |
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I think you should publish whatever code you have so far. People are not expecting finished or polished code, just some evidence that something is actually being done. Weekly updates to this unfinished code will show progress is being made. This gives people confidence, most scammers won't take the time to write real code. I know that some will criticise it but most will appreciate and be willing to donate. You will break a trend here of devs not publishing code and that will win a huge amount of support. I know I'm going on a bit but it is so hugely important.
If you look through whitepaper, you'll see that there has been code created. It just really doesn't make sense for me to make it public fully until it's completely working. |
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Why did you call it Paper?
The process we are replacing is paper filing systems haha. Other than that, I just kind of liked the name. |
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Updated the OP with some new information.
There are some expenses that are coming up, particularly with the implementation of the RFID tech. I've decided to open up donations for the time being.
If you guys have any questions, I will be available to answer.
Have you published any code or have a testnet? I think donations will mark you as a scam unless you can actually show something is really happening. I will personally donate if I see the evidence that this coin is really happening. I suspect you will face a wall of money if you do that. We all want at least one of these DAG coins to happen but pretty jaded with the lack of delivery atm. Be the one that shows progress and jump up in peoples estimation. I realize that it looks strange without having code but, it's impossible to run a testnet because this requires RFID readers and writers to function. This is a physical asset tracker. I can show what the new blocks will look like as well as the code showing an example account chain, but not much else. |
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Updated the OP with some new information.
There are some expenses that are coming up, particularly with the implementation of the RFID tech. I've decided to open up donations for the time being.
If you guys have any questions, I will be available to answer.
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Thank you. Supply chain, and item tracking in general is a large and relatively untapped industry in blockchain. Hopefully with the use of DAG, it will be able to reach the scalability and traceability required.
I have been spending a lot of time lately reaching out to companies interested in becoming a partner, and have been able to get the largest regional LTL company in the North East to share their process, and work with me in developing a solution to track shipments. Because of this, Paper will most likely not have a public repo as we develop a Proof of Concept in the coming weeks, with the hopes that after we get the MVP going, to build it out further into a public model. I'd love to hear everyone else's thoughts.
So are you saying that you intend to make this a completely private endeavor? If so, probably best to clarify both at the end of this thread and the start announcement page and then lock the thread. Otherwise you will just confuse and annoy people. Will you even be releasing coins/tokens to the public? It will only be private for the duration of the Proof of Concept build. Once we get to the stage where we are comfortable having it public, then it will be released. Ok, thank you for clarifying. Will there still be an opportunity to invest/donate and get some coins or is it going to be all through the exchange only? I really have no plans on doing donations, maybe if there was enough interest I would consider it. |
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Thank you. Supply chain, and item tracking in general is a large and relatively untapped industry in blockchain. Hopefully with the use of DAG, it will be able to reach the scalability and traceability required.
I have been spending a lot of time lately reaching out to companies interested in becoming a partner, and have been able to get the largest regional LTL company in the North East to share their process, and work with me in developing a solution to track shipments. Because of this, Paper will most likely not have a public repo as we develop a Proof of Concept in the coming weeks, with the hopes that after we get the MVP going, to build it out further into a public model. I'd love to hear everyone else's thoughts.
So are you saying that you intend to make this a completely private endeavor? If so, probably best to clarify both at the end of this thread and the start announcement page and then lock the thread. Otherwise you will just confuse and annoy people. Will you even be releasing coins/tokens to the public? It will only be private for the duration of the Proof of Concept build. Once we get to the stage where we are comfortable having it public, then it will be released. |
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Great project, Wish u all the success and looking forward to see how this project will shape up in coming days.
Good luck in this project, looks like it could a very good cryptocurrency if the goal is reached
I wish you the best with developing this new crypto currency. It is going to be a massive job but super rewarding too, both in terms of personal satisfaction and financially. Keep at it and keep us informed. When you have some code and roadmap and white paper etc, will be here ready to donate and help take it to the next level.
Lets see this thing take shape.
Thank you. Supply chain, and item tracking in general is a large and relatively untapped industry in blockchain. Hopefully with the use of DAG, it will be able to reach the scalability and traceability required. I have been spending a lot of time lately reaching out to companies interested in becoming a partner, and have been able to get the largest regional LTL company in the North East to share their process, and work with me in developing a solution to track shipments. Because of this, Paper will most likely not have a public repo as we develop a Proof of Concept in the coming weeks, with the hopes that after we get the MVP going, to build it out further into a public model. I'd love to hear everyone else's thoughts. |
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Can you share me a discord link? I'd like to join the conversations. Really interested in this project. Hi, I've updated the OP to include a link to the discord chat. https://discord.gg/9HsErfP |
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Thanks for creating that. Joined. Check out the github - I've implemented my own version of the block lattice for transactions, working now on the asset ledger. https://github.com/paper-project/paper |
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Hi Will, (tried sending as a message but didn't go through) I really enjoy your project and the progress you've been making. Im wondering if I can help out in a larger capacity. Like some other projects, this could expand pretty quickly. I just did the branding for another project in similar space as paper. Maybe we can set up a discord together so we can start bringing people in who are interested. And trust me, there are a ton of people that will be interested in Paper...They just don't know it yet  D Hey, That would be terrific if you could help out. Anything would be much appreciated. I have no idea how to set up any of the channels, and that's definitely a good first step in engaging with the community. Let me know if there's anything I need to do. |
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Stone, Mana, Azulik, and now Paper
looks like all the same, Dag+ Zksharks。。。。hope dev can make it true....
Again... this project has nothing really to do with zkSnarks. This is a DAG Protocol that will allow for a ledger of physical assets. Thank you for the support though. Wait, where can I find any details concerning ICO? Or did I miss something?
No ICO, you haven't missed anything. This is just an announcement that the project will be available soon. Exactly why are these new users doing this? If only they had a better ranking, they could pass some credibility, the curious that always put address to receive donations and always use RaiBlocks as a reference.
Well I hope to change your mind about credibility when I release it soon. There's no address to receive donations, and I plan on using RaiBlocks as a backbone simply because it is an incredible piece of tech, and a lot can be built on top of it. |
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Not really a suggestion but more of a thought - People flipped out with Stone because of it's privacy features. It looks like the market is really interested in a DAG based Privacy coin.
Have you given any thought to adding privacy features to Paper?
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Yeah, I mentioned that I would look into stronger privacy features, but I don't want to promise something I'm not sure I can deliver. IOTA's current crypto tool is extremely light, which is what allows the transactions to be so instantaneous. I could implement something like zkSnarks, but the ledger would definitely suffer in speed, especially in the beginning since DAG protocols thrive on tons of transactions. any update? There have been a few updates on the whole Paper concept. Namely being: Made significant headway on the architecture of the data layers. It'll be a loose backbone of RaiBlocks, with a second data layer that allows for the "Proof of Ownership" model for a physical asset. Currently working on creating a C++ implementation of it. Created a simple website: http://paper.technology/ just something that makes it sort of official, and announces when I think the beta version will be available. Things are looking good so far though. |
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Not really a suggestion but more of a thought - People flipped out with Stone because of it's privacy features. It looks like the market is really interested in a DAG based Privacy coin.
Have you given any thought to adding privacy features to Paper?
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Yeah, I mentioned that I would look into stronger privacy features, but I don't want to promise something I'm not sure I can deliver. IOTA's current crypto tool is extremely light, which is what allows the transactions to be so instantaneous. I could implement something like zkSnarks, but the ledger would definitely suffer in speed, especially in the beginning since DAG protocols thrive on tons of transactions. |
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have a plan to do an ICO in the future ?
as i read in the OP you are focusing on the code to ensure that this project is feasible for now,
DAG will be a new trend after blockchain
So far, no plan to do ICO - not to say that I'll never do it, but that it's not a priority. I agree, DAG is the next wave of crypto |
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Cool idea, hope you get it off the ground! Will be glad to help (non-tech) when you need it.
What is name PAPER for?
Because before this ledger, in order for an asset to be under your possession (like a house), you needed an official paper document saying so  You have my vote of support! Happy to help (non-tech) if/when the time comes. D You 2 have very similar replies lol. Thank you for the support though wow bizarre. I can assure you I am not Boomhocolatta haha. I too was watching the Stone thread very closely. Felix, if he is *not* a scammer, is doing a pretty decent job convincing everyone he is. willstarkro I have more faith in you simply due to your willingness to engage and participate in the thread. Stick with your gut and continue working to show something of value, no need to supply a white paper at this stage That's really unfortunate to hear about the other project. And thanks, I plan on doing just that. Hi dev, you already decided how will be the distribution? Faucets?
I haven't really put any thought into how it will be distributed. I'm open to suggestions, but it's not my main focus right now. |
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Hi dev, you already decided how will be the distribution? Faucets?
I haven't really put any thought into how it will be distributed. I'm open to suggestions, but it's not my main focus right now. |
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Cool idea, hope you get it off the ground! Will be glad to help (non-tech) when you need it.
What is name PAPER for?
Because before this ledger, in order for an asset to be under your possession (like a house), you needed an official paper document saying so You have my vote of support! Happy to help (non-tech) if/when the time comes. D You 2 have very similar replies lol. Thank you for the support though |
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without the white paper I still think this paper has something to do with the 'scam' DAG stone thread
I never understood that. How would a whitepaper really prove that it's not a scam. It would take far less knowledge and time to write a paper than to actually develop the code. I'd rather prove this with code than a theoretical paper. |
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