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1  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why do people want Bitcoin? on: January 30, 2018, 05:46:23 PM
Why do people want Bitcoin?

Bitcoins act as new currencies in the digital age. It can cross borders without any banks or governments.

The recent boom in Bitcoin may be great news for those who put money here early. But it also made it possible for Bitcoin to become a distant currency.

I can now use my Bitcoin number to buy stuff at Overstock or book a hotel at Expedia. But if I use Bitcoin to buy $ 25 on the Overstock today, and next week Bitcoin prices will increase fourfold, I'll feel that stock is $ 100. If Bitcoin loses its price, at least I still have the stock to use.

Bitcoins are considered as a kind of asset, instead of currency, with great profit expectations later on.
Maybe because that individual users are also gaining. Their hard work in bitcoin has paid off. That's why I'm also using bitcoin because I believe that there will come a time in which bitcoin is so high value
2  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Too late to get involved into Bitcoin? on: January 30, 2018, 05:34:00 PM
it is not to late to join bitcoin and be a bitcoin user. As long as the opportunity is open and accessible to you, grab it.  Even if we are newbie, if we will just ocntinue on what we are doing in bitcoin and think that it is good. it short, get involved in bitcoin as well as to others
3  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin is useless on: January 30, 2018, 04:59:07 PM
I am amazed with number of people being fooled with BTC:

1. Transactions takes hours
2. Fees are high
3. Development team sucks, uncapable solve scalability issues for years
4. Its not anonymous, every solution to make it, failed so far
5. Its centralized: who is biggest hash power owner? Who is biggest miner hardware provider? Who owns most of bitcoins? What is % of Bitcoins in coldstorage and what in exchanges ( Ye Mt Gox )
6. There is 0 economics for BTC, it just tight to USD with liquidity providers, cut that and try to value pizza box with just BTC
7. Its not store of value, its not digital gold, and it will never be 100k USD. Because it has no value. It has value only for energy probiders, hardware manufactures and random phils.
8. Its not insured, If some crap happened to your BTC, its gone.
9. Bitcoin has a limited supply, but it does not help much. Bitcoin has a code that can be amended and its enough of small group of people to work together to support that. Question really is: do someone need that hassle? No really. Bitcoin has satoshis, that currently meaningless and just nice numbers after dot, but this a very well painless way to inflate any crypto currency and its up to liquidity providers. Again it falls to point #5 and #6. Added on 24/01/2018

Such crap will never be used in payments, noone wants to support Terrabytes or Petabytes of data.

Its funny to observe how uneducated shills trying to make casual office landline phone to look smart phone.

BTC is scam of the century, stay away.

UPDATE 23/01/2018:

useless, guys the fact that some of you become reach and wealthy does not make Bitcoin useful. You wealth does not come from values that are used in propaganda.

1. Why I am still here? I believe there are technologies that are better maintained and lead than BTC, I prefer put money in something that bring value, has use-case and been used.
2. LN is panacea! Well not, so far its more dream than reality, no doubt it will be delivered in one or other way, but it will not solve all problems and so far it has more questions than answers.

UPDATE 24/01/2018:

Everyone is amazed of why I called it useless, well, recently Stripe dropped support for Bitcoin payments. This is the prove of Bitcoin being useless. Stripe was not the only one in recent months to do so. It should ring a bell.

UPDATE 29/01/2018:
Few points were made here that are unfair:

1. Bitcoin is a first one, its revolutionary and so on and so forth, wrong, Bitcoin is a client that is build on top of practices that were developed and test long time before Bitcoin e.g. Proof of Work, Hashcash, eCash, bit gold, Merkle Tree, Peer-to-Peer,Byzantine fault tolerance etc.

2. Bitcoin is still in development and it needs a time and so on and so forth, really? its a 10 years old technology. Its usage is very easy predictable, no rocket science here. Scailibility problems were addressed long time ago. But like in every corrupted government, Bitcoin has biased devs, greedy miners and exchanges driven by capitalists. Why to care about tech? When everyone is just become wealthy on nothing. This is why its scam and this is how it become useless, because everyone only cares about price, not utility on day-to-day basis. Typical ponzi game.

3. Bitcoin is store of value, fake as is. Everything that has Blockchain underneath is store of value, Bitcoin is neither exception nor unique here. And again it has no value, because there is no utility. Remove exchanges from equation, and tell me how much BTC will be worth 1 pizza?

UPDATE 30/01/2018:

Bitcointalk, and many other crypto related forums are heavily manipulated by bots, the amount of useless posts and conversation is just crazy. Even look at this thread, so much messages about "it will make me reach", "it growing", "I am going to be wealthy" so much manipulation, only in ponzi game this possible. It proves just on how bitcoin is useless, because 90% of people just copy paste message from bots, even not knowing basic fundamentals.

You only viewed disadvantages of it for the system. You did not observed the benefit for the many, which is all the bitcoin users. All bitcoin users get a money out of it, just by this, we can consider bitcoin is useful.
4  Economy / Economics / Re: Is bitcoin really secure on: January 30, 2018, 04:47:27 PM
Some people invest some if not all of thier asset in bitcoin. They are lured by its growing up value its equivalent to fiat currency but is bitcoin really safe and secure.? What do you think.,
I think that bitcoin is really a secure one. Hackers will have experienced difficulty to infiltrate this system. The creators of this forum is so organized that it can detect a spam or a farmer user.
5  Local / Others (Pilipinas) / Re: MERIT POINTS on: January 30, 2018, 03:08:09 PM
Gano ka laki ang epekto ng sestemang merit sayu? at sa tingin no epektibo nga ba ito?
o lalo lang nitong ginogulo ang mga baguhan sa furom NATO?..

Kapag may bagong labas na sistema, maaaring magdulot ito ng sabay na kapakinabangan gayundin naman kasabay nito ang pagkakaroon ng disadvatage. Marahil ay kailangan natin itong tanggapin sa ngayon. Patuloy lang tayo magpost ng mga makabuluhang posts upang maging propesyonal ang dating forum
6  Economy / Economics / Re: The lack of financial education on: January 30, 2018, 02:21:59 PM
The lack of financial education in general is a worrying problem. We teach students about literature, maths, science, ... and we tell them that those are the things they need to know in life. Yet usually, the largest single expense they will have on their lives is a house, and that normally comes with a mortgage. Yet, only a few schools will tell them what should they be expecting, the risks and the consequences of such a contract.

Bitcoin and alts is another case in which people are carefully kept in ignorance by the governments and lobbies.

What can we do to make more people interested in economy and finance and to better educate the youth so that they don´t get ripped-off?

I agree with what you've said. I think that for all the people entering a world of trade or currency mining, they should acquire a better knowledge regarding financial matter so that they can easily manage or dwell when there comes a problem
7  Economy / Economics / Re: do you really like crypto coin? on: January 30, 2018, 08:54:36 AM
i like it a lot because this crypto i change how to make study hard.. like when im schooling before, and now same crypto before you move forward in all coin make sure study first. in crypto i make profitable income he even not much. also all ico token its like a lot also they also make your profit if you joined thier project.
Yes, I really do. I was encouraged by my friend who is currently a high ranking of bitcoin and I already saw what happened when he progress that is why I believe that cryptocurrency are the future of this world.
8  Local / Pilipinas / Re: Mga Senyales na Payaman ka na sa Crypto on: January 30, 2018, 08:47:16 AM
1. Di ka na naliligo.
2. Di ka na natutulog.
3. Di mo na namamalayan ang oras.
4. Manhid ka na. Wala ka ng emosyon. Red tide? Just another day in Cryptos.
5. You now have an attention span of a goldfish (because of trading)
6. Parating tulala kasi iniisip parati ang mga coins nya.
7. Di na nakakapag-exercise.
8. Di na nakakakain sa tamang oras.
9. Parating tinitignan si Blockfolio every two minutes.
10. Parating bukangbibig na lang crypto. (Or tahimik na lang about crypto para wala masyadong kakompetensya sa mga bounties. Madaldal lang pag nakakausap sa fellow crypto addict rin.)
11. Di masyadong gumagastos. Kasi imbes na pambili ng yosi o ng alak, crypto na lang!
12. Mas importante na sayo ang crypto kaysa sa fiat. (Intangible coins now is better than tangible ones!)
13. Bibili ng 4k na sapatos, ang mahal naman. Bibili ng 100k na ICO, wala ng isip isip!
14. Dati nood TV series. Ngayon nood na ng tutorials sa YouTube about crypto.
15. Dati trabaho ka ng 8-5 para kumita. Ngayon 2 hours na lang!
16. Dati puro ka laro computer games, now crypto game na nilalaro.
17. Dati galit parati parents kasi walang pang-ambag sa bahay. Ngayon ang bait na ng parents lol
18. Tinatanong ka na ng parents mo kung nakapag-airdrop ka na ba? O magkano na ang nabenta mo? haha
19. Di ka na masyado sa Facebook sa Bitcointalk ka na nakatambay dahil nagpaparank!
20. Pag tumunog ang cellphone mo nagmamadali ka ng tignan kasi kala mo airdrop sa discord.
21. Pag may nakita kang post about cryptocurrencies babasahin mo na. Tapos feeling mo expert ka na hahaha
22. Ang tingin sayo ng mga friends mo sa facebook weird kasi puro about crypto shinishare mo at puro form pa!
23. Puro ka referral.
24. Nakakatamad ng lumabas kasi baka may ma-miss kang airdrop or bounty.
25. Pag may narinig kang nagpump na token dali-dali mong titignan sa mga exchanges.
26. Etherdelta is your bestfriend.
27. Dapat parating may laman ang ref para pag nagutom sa madaling umaga makakain agad. Nakakagutom kayang mag-bounty haha
28. Wala ng time maglinis ng room/bahay. Natatambakan na ng hugasan at labahan.
29. Pag di aabot ng 1000 ang holdings mo ng particular coin na yun, tinatamad ka na. Gusto mo at least nasa 1000 units or more per coin/token mo.
30. Nalilitan ka na sa hundred thousand, dapat usapan ay millions na. hahaha
31. Ang dami mo na parating tabs na nakabukas pag nagnenet ka.
32. Importante na sayo ngayon na marami kang followers sa Twitter and Facebook!

Ayan pa lang naiisip ko. Ano pang ibang naiisip nyo?

P.S. if nakita nyo na ito somewhere in Facebook don't label me as a content grabber kasi ako yung original poster nito.

P.P.S. Katuwaan lang po ito haha. Nothing serious. Tongue

Marahil ay nasa newbie ranking pa lamang ako ngunit alam ko sa sarili na kung ipagpapatuloy ko ng maige ang pagbibitcoin ay mararanasan ko rin ang mga nasabi mo dyan sa mga katangian ng pagiging mayaman sa bitcoin.
9  Local / Pilipinas / Re: 1 bitcoin is equal to 1 million on: January 17, 2018, 02:46:24 PM
Nabasa ko yan sa isang blog. Di ko matandaan kung saan pero makes sense. Kaya dapat talaga ma ipon tayo ng bitcoins ngayon p lng.

Nako, as of ngayong january, aking napansin na pababa ng pababa ang value ngaoyn ni bitcoin. Sana hindi pa huli ang lahat para sa aming mga newbie nag nagsisikap
10  Other / Off-topic / Re: How to get girls when you're not handsome? on: January 16, 2018, 09:32:38 AM
if you are not handsome enough, try increase your humor or try to invest in bitcoin because if you have money, you can have many girls
11  Economy / Economics / Re: If Bitcoin had a stable price, would it still be as popular? on: January 15, 2018, 12:22:09 PM
Yes, I agree with your statement mister. If bitcoin maintain its higher value in the market, many individuals will come and participate to invest this kind of digital currency. Having that, it will also be popular to many people.
12  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why people sell bitcoins? on: January 10, 2018, 05:46:41 PM
Some people I know sell bitcoin because they use it for trading. In that situation, they can buy other coins and get a higher bitcoin price.
13  Local / Pilipinas / Re: BSP: Advisory on the Use of Virtual Currencies on: January 10, 2018, 03:21:08 PM
Lumabas ng bagong statement ang Bangko Sentral ng Pilipinas regarding the Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies.

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With the recent price surge of VCs, such as Bitcoins, the BSP has observed that an increasing number of individuals or entities may be tempted to “invest” in VC pyramid schemes disguised as initial coin offerings (ICOs) or VC investment products.  The public is therefore advised to exercise caution regarding the acquisition, possession, trading of VCs or dealing with VC-related offers.  Unlike stocks or debt issues, VCs are not backed by any company or commodity and the price is purely dependent on market demand and supply.  As such, investing in VCs presents a highly speculative and risky undertaking which might result into huge financial losses. To minimize risks, the BSP highly encourages existing and prospective VC users to deal only with BSP-registered VC exchanges and maintain only a sufficient amount of VCs enough to address transaction requirements.  VC users should properly secure their VC holdings and observe security tips below to protect the confidentiality and integrity of personal information and transaction details.

Important security considerations for VC users:

  • Set-up and use a dedicated email account.  Avoid using the same email accounts or username that you have used in public platforms such as social media.
  • Keep your VC-related email account to yourself.  In any VC transaction, users need their email account and password.  Thus, it is important to secure not only your password but also your email account.
  • Set a strong password.  Use complex and hard-to-guess passwords (i.e. alphanumeric including symbols, lower and upper cases).  Avoid re-using the same password for more than one service.
  • Observe basic internet security.  Exercise caution in accessing your VC wallet especially when using wi-fi connections.  Avoid installing software, browser plugins or downloading attachments from unknown or suspicious websites and emails.  At the same time, do not leave your device unattended.
  • Subscribe to multi-factor authentication (MFA) provided by the VC wallet provider.  VC users should enable, whenever available, MFA options to their VC accounts.  Adding another layer of authentication can provide increased security to your VC account and transactions.
  • Separate your funds and use cold storage.  VC funds should be separated in two or more digital wallets for transactional purposes.  The main wallet used to store VC funds for future use should be kept offline or popularly known as cold storage wallet to minimize vulnerability to theft, hacking or fraud.

Full article can be read on their site at http://www.bsp.gov.ph/publications/media.asp?id=4575&yr=2017


Yes, bsp is true that you can incur a grate financial loss when you're account is not secured and when you are not aware of what ICO transaction you are going in.
14  Economy / Economics / Re: Why people scam on: January 08, 2018, 03:24:42 PM
They scam because they want to earn money as money as they can in the form of cheating.  However, all organizations are increasing their security for potential hackers or scammers nowadays so you don't have to worry by now
15  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What are the advantages of having Bitcoin? on: January 07, 2018, 10:13:45 AM
Bitcoin has many advantages, actually, not only bitcoin but all of the created digital currency nowadays. Given these, we can make or invest money just with an easier means, meaning, we don't have to do more physical work for gaining this money. Next advantage is that it can easily transferred and converted. Third is that when you save bitcoin, there is a chance that within a year, you can earn for almost a million. See? there is many opportunity to the digital currency, just have knowledge and make fun out of it.
16  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why is bitcoin the most popular cryptocurrency? on: January 06, 2018, 05:59:19 PM
Correct me if im wrong but i think that bitcoin is this so popular because of its value of exchange in real money. Individuals are attracted from its price that why it became so popular and that's how they start to raom the world of digital currency
17  Economy / Economics / Re: Electronic Money vs. Physical Money on: January 06, 2018, 05:28:50 PM
We both know that these two has many differences, in terms of earning it, spending it, transferring or converting it. In every aspect I mention earlier, bitcoin has an edge compared to physical money. Physical money is hard to earn unless you have a higher position. Transferring bitcoin to a digital wallet is easier compared to physical money. Even converting it, bitcoin has its advantage. But both of these are money, we can use this to invest, to buy what we want or we need. We must save them so when the time comes poor, we can invest.
18  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: One currency One world? on: January 04, 2018, 04:09:34 AM
Probably this will not happen because bitcoin wasn't well known to other countries. Some countries treat it as good source of investment but other countries treat it as bad that it can destroy their government.
19  Economy / Economics / Re: How did Bitcoin start to price increase? on: January 03, 2018, 07:09:14 AM
it is because of the demand and supply law of economics. There are factors like big whales which affect the increase or decrease of the bitcoin's value. However, if therewill be many investors that will be attracted to this type of digital currency, it will rise its value again.
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