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I am ambivalent about tradove. In my opinion, this whole thing is not a scam and I do not impute base motives to tradove. However, there are a lot of questions in my mind (beside that ones that are still unacknowledged in this thread). The project is crude and immature. It seems amateurish, what really is unusual for such a high-level team (when all the team members really are involved in this project). I suggest, tradove hired Ms. Kristen Colwell (director of marketing at Brian D. Colwell) to make some advertisement for their coin (her husband? brian is a team member of tradove’s facebook page), but she is not really into this subject matter and are not able to answer the questions by herself. But why did tradove hire such a small business for that? Other than cataropkr’s payment, mine has been accepted without any problems: https://imgur.com/a/rGtI4Nevertheless, because this project is not what I expected and the company does not act like one of their niveau, I also asked for a refund yesterday and mailed to kent.yan@tradove.com, merry.meng@tradove.net and bbcoin@tradovemail.com. Till now, I haven’t received an answer, but I will keep you up to date. Best wishes Hi, This is Kristen. Though I am no longer working on behalf of TraDove, I wanted to respond to this message because it referenced me personally. My background is in marketing and I love challenges. As an investor in TraDove, I was excited by the opportunity to help with marketing of the ICO. This opportunity popped up just over a week ago. My directive was to maintain this Bitcointalk feed and the TraDove Facebook page to connect people with information as questions arose. How deep is my knowledge of ICOs?  Well... My first foray into cryptocurrencies was with ETH and Crypto Kitties.... I'm one of THOSE people. Cryptocurrencies are fascinating and I (along with many, many others) am interested in stepping into this space. I am an honest person and any review of my prior working relationships will back this up. My efforts on this feed were meant to clear confusion, but I can only work with the information that I am given. Long story, short? I'm out! Thanks to those who came to my aid on this feed. I hope everyone recognizes that my personal intentions were good. Peace out, Kristen So, in summation, you have jumped from the evident fraudship when people have seen the light thinking you can just walk off in to the sunset with our money. You can't just walk away from this and expected to not be challenged. Jallyfax - clearly everyone who has seen this is upset and is not going to believe anything I say so I am going to stop trying because clearly we are getting nowhere. However, once your refund does come through, I would also ask that you confirm this happened on this forum. It is true I created this profile to comment on this issue, but I am just a regular investor with TraDove...I live in Australia and have a full time job here. I have absolutely nothing to do with the company. I just thought I would share my experience with everyone - but again, people's emotions are running high at the moment which I completely understand. So when people's money gets refunded I would like to see a confirmation of this by those same individuals. Also - if no money is refunded in the next week I would also like to hear about this as well - as this may even make me start to wonder about the authenticity of the project. But to me, everything looks above board at the moment, just very poorly organised. Thanks again everyone. Still waiting for my refund. Until I receive a refund all of these posts are not valid. Anyone can create an account and claim to have received a refund. I'll believe it when the refund is sitting back in my account. |
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I am ambivalent about tradove. In my opinion, this whole thing is not a scam and I do not impute base motives to tradove. However, there are a lot of questions in my mind (beside that ones that are still unacknowledged in this thread). The project is crude and immature. It seems amateurish, what really is unusual for such a high-level team (when all the team members really are involved in this project). I suggest, tradove hired Ms. Kristen Colwell (director of marketing at Brian D. Colwell) to make some advertisement for their coin (her husband? brian is a team member of tradove’s facebook page), but she is not really into this subject matter and are not able to answer the questions by herself. But why did tradove hire such a small business for that? Other than cataropkr’s payment, mine has been accepted without any problems: https://imgur.com/a/rGtI4Nevertheless, because this project is not what I expected and the company does not act like one of their niveau, I also asked for a refund yesterday and mailed to kent.yan@tradove.com, merry.meng@tradove.net and bbcoin@tradovemail.com. Till now, I haven’t received an answer, but I will keep you up to date. Best wishes Hi, This is Kristen. Though I am no longer working on behalf of TraDove, I wanted to respond to this message because it referenced me personally. My background is in marketing and I love challenges. As an investor in TraDove, I was excited by the opportunity to help with marketing of the ICO. This opportunity popped up just over a week ago. My directive was to maintain this Bitcointalk feed and the TraDove Facebook page to connect people with information as questions arose. How deep is my knowledge of ICOs? Well... My first foray into cryptocurrencies was with ETH and Crypto Kitties.... I'm one of THOSE people. Cryptocurrencies are fascinating and I (along with many, many others) am interested in stepping into this space. I am an honest person and any review of my prior working relationships will back this up. My efforts on this feed were meant to clear confusion, but I can only work with the information that I am given. Long story, short? I'm out! Thanks to those who came to my aid on this feed. I hope everyone recognizes that my personal intentions were good. Peace out, Kristen So, in summation, you have jumped from the evident fraudship when people have seen the light thinking you can just walk off in to the sunset with our money. You can't just walk away from this and expected to not be challenged. |
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Hi everyone, Just so everyone does not think this is a scam - here is my 4 ETH refunded back to me by TraDove. https://imgur.com/a/IQUQuI have reinvested this back into TraDove now as they have given me the confidence this is not a scam... I came to this conclusion by thinking what are the green flags and what are the red flags? The only red flag to most people is the fact that there was one 4chan member stating this was a scam due to the fact the ICO funds were immediately being moved to hundreds of different wallets. The reason is fairly simple - the ICO funds (as confirmed when emailing Kent) have been moved onto CoinBase after they hit the TraDove accounts. Doing this is much more secure than storing the funds of an ICO in a single wallet. CoinBase spreads large amounts of funds into multiple wallets - however this is done in the backend of CoinBase - it is a blockchain security feature to spread risk, so if one wallet is compromised, the loss is minimal. Remember when Bittrex was hacked? This is because Bittrex did not do this - they had far too many funds stored in a single wallet point containing millions of dollars worth of Bitcoin. So, this is why you are seeing funds moved from the TraDove ICO wallets into CoinBase and then CoinBase moving them in the backend into Binance wallets. The only other red flag I can see raised by people is the poor grammatical skills on parts of the ICO website - please remember that the CEO of TraDove is Chinese and sometimes there may be slight spelling errors due to English being a second language - hardly a red flag in my view but I can see how others may interpret that. Now if anyone has any other issues they would like to bring up I am more than happy to try and get answers for you or even answer them myself. Finally, I am not in any way affiliated with TraDove, but I went through the entire range of emotions by investing, asking for a refund when I panicked and now am 100% back on board. Thanks everyone  may i ask you why are you lying ? you sent 7 ethereum to tradoves ethereum address. Ok, you said you got fully refunded (4 eth out of 7 isn't fully refunded) but u didn't go back as you said you do. I almost believed you but the evidence shows otherwise. Edit: the official tradove address is 0x90B12787fa2067ccb46f017f70C07529A562C6C9 . Only 1 payment was done to that address from your address. His eth address is this: 0x633B73A3d7d1468B1DEB79859cB37c5318F15b1b Also - regardless of the details of how I received my refund - doesn't this prove to you that this isn't a scam? It would have to be the worst scam in the world if they sent victims any of their money back haha What it shows is that YOU are a liar. You have been caught out. You've made a new account, you've fabricated a refund while everyone who actually invested in this 'ICO' is sitting here waiting. We've been lied to. I was told I would receive a response and a refund within 24 hours. It has now been 50 hours and I have yet to hear anything. I guarantee if I had invested a further 2 ETH I wouldn't be sitting here waiting for it to be confirmed. Still no email response. Still no ETH refunded. It's a scam. At 10:30pm tomorrow when the third day hits I escalate this greatly. You will all end up falling. Laws exist for a reason and this is fraud. It is very clear to see that you are not an investor, you are part of the group. |
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you dont provide any information. all the information you provide us we can find on your website. there are other things that you should provide and you dont, like refunds and answers to the questions regarding your scam procedure.
stop buying this scam guys
It's a shame. I'm ambivalent. I intended to put much more into the ICO than I did in the coming weeks. In 2 hours and 8 minutes it will have been 24 hours without response. We'll see what changes between now and then. I've requested a refund also, but received no response from their team to confirm if it will be actioned. Was reading up on reddit and came across this:
"i asked for a refund 2 days ago and nothing yet. they deleted my payment from their record history after i uploaded the proof of payment. thats a scam. dont buy from these guys"Can the team please elaborate on this further? I was going to put in a much larger amount of ETH into this, but if they can't even stick to their word on the refunds I don't know what to think to be honest. I hope you get your money back soon JallyFax. Likewise. Keep me updated in this thread and I'll do the same. |
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you dont provide any information. all the information you provide us we can find on your website. there are other things that you should provide and you dont, like refunds and answers to the questions regarding your scam procedure.
stop buying this scam guys
It's a shame. I'm ambivalent. I intended to put much more into the ICO than I did in the coming weeks. In 2 hours and 8 minutes it will have been 24 hours without response. We'll see what changes between now and then. |
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Hi Pulzar83, We hear your concerns. Please consider attending this live YouTube AMA coming up on January 12th. YouTuber @TheGobOne to interview Kent Yan live on January 12th. Set reminder here ==> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AINMEkW77VMBest, Kristen TraDove Admin Not to sound rude, but, you keep posting about this AMA Youtube 'interview' coming up which does not address any of the current problems. You have seen multiple people come forward questioning the companies legitimacy while voicing their fears. The time to act is now. Kent Yan should be on a stream, at this minute, clearing all concerns and putting the investors at ease. A paragraph which you paste in to this thread 20 times a day does not alleviate any fears. I could write a paragraph and sign it off with his name...it does't mean he wrote it. The time is now Kent Yan. Show yourself and put our fears to rest. Hi JallyFax, Not sure if you've been involved in many presales like this, but there is a significant amount of work going on behind the scenes. Kent hired me to man this feed and provide information to those in need. There is no need to call him out here when we have a LIVE public event planned for January 12th to allow folks such as yourself to ask questions. I understand that you are concerned, but ask that you refrain from insinuating that I or others on the team are posting false statements from our CEO. Kristen TraDove Admin I don't think you do understand unfortunately; for the second time you have misunderstood my wording. I have not insinuated anything. I have, however, stated that anyone can create a post and sign it off as someone else. I hope you prove me wrong. I hope the 12th turns out to be a very successful night for the ICO, I really do. However, I'd still like my refund and I will continue to work towards achieveing that. |
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Hi Pulzar83, We hear your concerns. Please consider attending this live YouTube AMA coming up on January 12th. YouTuber @TheGobOne to interview Kent Yan live on January 12th. Set reminder here ==> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AINMEkW77VMBest, Kristen TraDove Admin Not to sound rude, but, you keep posting about this AMA Youtube 'interview' coming up which does not address any of the current problems. You have seen multiple people come forward questioning the companies legitimacy while voicing their fears. The time to act is now. Kent Yan should be on a stream, at this minute, clearing all concerns and putting the investors at ease. A paragraph which you paste in to this thread 20 times a day does not alleviate any fears. I could write a paragraph and sign it off with his name...it does't mean he wrote it. The time is now Kent Yan. Show yourself and put our fears to rest. |
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I am expecting to hear something back in the next few hours, otherwise, I will have to take this matter further.
Sorry you feel that way. Your transaction is just as important as all the other transactions currently in process. The team is working as quickly as possible. Regards, Kristen TraDove Admin Yes, we keep hearing that. Show us results. |
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Evening.
Nearly 24 hours and I am still waiting for a refund or even a confirmation that a refund is imminent.
I'm not happy.
Hello JallyFax, Many transactions are taking more than 24 hours right now. I have heard from folks on this thread that they have successfully completed refunds. Your patience is appreciated. Regards, Kristen TraDove Admin Just one person who claimed it took less than 9 hours. However, I applied for a refund before him and I've waited nearly 24. There is no logic to his statement and I do not believe it to be a genuine one. Cannot speak to the order of transactions... there is a backlog causing delays, but transactions are being completed. Kristen TraDove Admin I am expecting to hear something back in the next few hours, otherwise, I will have to take this matter further. |
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Evening.
Nearly 24 hours and I am still waiting for a refund or even a confirmation that a refund is imminent.
I'm not happy.
Hello JallyFax, Many transactions are taking more than 24 hours right now. I have heard from folks on this thread that they have successfully completed refunds. Your patience is appreciated. Regards, Kristen TraDove Admin Just one person who claimed it took less than 9 hours. However, I applied for a refund before him and I've waited nearly 24. There is no logic to his statement and I do not believe it to be a genuine one. |
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Evening.
Nearly 24 hours and I am still waiting for a refund or even a confirmation that a refund is imminent.
I'm not happy.
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Threats? You have misunderstood. I have made no threats.
I am merely seeking comfort.
Thank you for clarifying. The team is working very hard and we are all human.  I understand that. I have sent two emails, the second one to clarify and make the situation clearer (plus some details that will allow them to track my payment down). However, I have yet to hear from them. A confirmation email or something would give me a lot more confidence. I hope to receive one soon. I totally understand your point regarding a confirmation email. I will relay this to the team now, but cannot make any promise about when a confirmation will be sent. Does that make sense? Kristen TraDove Admin That does. I understand that, as with the purchases, the team are dedicated to ensuring a less than 24 hour turn around? |
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Threats? You have misunderstood. I have made no threats.
I am merely seeking comfort.
Thank you for clarifying. The team is working very hard and we are all human. I understand that. I have sent two emails, the second one to clarify and make the situation clearer (plus some details that will allow them to track my payment down). However, I have yet to hear from them. A confirmation email or something would give me a lot more confidence. I hope to receive one soon. |
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I have sent an email.
Can you please process this today so that I can feel comfortable again. I cannot speak on timing, but the refund will be completed by our transaction team. Please send any inquiries re: your refund to merry.meng@tradove.net. Best regards, Kristen TraDove Admin Can you please contact them to let them know that I have sent an email. If we both contact them then they will respond faster. Thank you for your help. Yes, I relayed your message and confirmed the refund process. All the best, Kristen TraDove Admin Thank you for that. What did they say? I would love to have a time expectation. It would make me feel a lot more comfortable. Ah, found your message. Sorry for my confusion. I was told that there is not a problem with refunding. There are many transactions taking place, so my understanding is that the team cannot nail down exact timing. Does that make sense? Thanks for your patience, Kristen TraDove Admin I appreciate you responding to me. However, it does not give me confidence. I appreciate all you have done so far, but, if at all possible, i'd like you to expedite the process. I need to know that I am safe and that I have not been scammed. Furthermore, a refund to me will allow me to post here that I have received a refund. This in turn will increase your overall reputation / trust factor. This will help you greatly. The longer it takes the more I worry and the worse it looks for TraDove. Please do the right thing and expedite the process to help us both. No need for threats. The team is handling your request and I relayed your messages promptly. I will continue to do all I can for you, but any refund questions will ultimately need to go to the contact I sent over. Sincerely, Kristen TraDove Admin Threats? You have misunderstood. I have made no threats. I am merely seeking comfort. |
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The silence of all of your team that I am trying to contact is not feeling me with confidence.
Please do something to change that.
What I spoke about above is a true business incentive for TraDove. Delays do not look good.
Please help me get that refund.
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I have sent an email.
Can you please process this today so that I can feel comfortable again. I cannot speak on timing, but the refund will be completed by our transaction team. Please send any inquiries re: your refund to merry.meng@tradove.net. Best regards, Kristen TraDove Admin Can you please contact them to let them know that I have sent an email. If we both contact them then they will respond faster. Thank you for your help. Yes, I relayed your message and confirmed the refund process. All the best, Kristen TraDove Admin Thank you for that. What did they say? I would love to have a time expectation. It would make me feel a lot more comfortable. Ah, found your message. Sorry for my confusion. I was told that there is not a problem with refunding. There are many transactions taking place, so my understanding is that the team cannot nail down exact timing. Does that make sense? Thanks for your patience, Kristen TraDove Admin I appreciate you responding to me. However, it does not give me confidence. I appreciate all you have done so far, but, if at all possible, i'd like you to expedite the process. I need to know that I am safe and that I have not been scammed. Furthermore, a refund to me will allow me to post here that I have received a refund. This in turn will increase your overall reputation / trust factor. This will help you greatly. The longer it takes the more I worry and the worse it looks for TraDove. Please do the right thing and expedite the process to help us both. |
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The TraDove B2B project already has a real working social network that has been operating for over 5 years and this social network TraDove B2B has 250 thousand users. I think that the IСO project of TraDove B2B will be very successful and will attract the attention of many investors.
Thank you! Kristen TraDove Admin Please may you respond to me also. Did you miss my earlier response? I replied right away. Kristen TraDove Admin I responded with: What did they say? I would love to have a time expectation. It would make me feel a lot more comfortable. I will let you know if they refund. |
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The TraDove B2B project already has a real working social network that has been operating for over 5 years and this social network TraDove B2B has 250 thousand users. I think that the IСO project of TraDove B2B will be very successful and will attract the attention of many investors.
Thank you! Kristen TraDove Admin Please may you respond to me also. |
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I have sent an email.
Can you please process this today so that I can feel comfortable again. I cannot speak on timing, but the refund will be completed by our transaction team. Please send any inquiries re: your refund to merry.meng@tradove.net. Best regards, Kristen TraDove Admin Can you please contact them to let them know that I have sent an email. If we both contact them then they will respond faster. Thank you for your help. Yes, I relayed your message and confirmed the refund process. All the best, Kristen TraDove Admin Thank you for that. What did they say? I would love to have a time expectation. It would make me feel a lot more comfortable. |
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I have sent an email.
Can you please process this today so that I can feel comfortable again. I cannot speak on timing, but the refund will be completed by our transaction team. Please send any inquiries re: your refund to merry.meng@tradove.net. Best regards, Kristen TraDove Admin Can you please contact them to let them know that I have sent an email. If we both contact them then they will respond faster. Thank you for your help. |
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