The prise rockets abnormal highs last days. But it's good because a lot of newspapers started write about bitcoin. Every day more and more people are getting familiar with it.

There are some more or less fundamental flaws with today's implementation of bitcoin. If they will not be corrected as time goes, then I would expect to see an alternative picking up the pace, leaving bitcoin behind. On the other hand, if they will be corrected, then there is no upper limit. Currently bitcoin is superior to its competitors, so it definitely has potential, but its deflationary aspects make it difficult for it to be considered a currency rather than a stock. It will not reach this price as a stock, only as a currency.

Yes, miners need the transaction so it can be included to blockchain

Also is immersion cooling actually in use yet? I thought it was more of a proof of concept so far. The next gen has yet to be deployed, and immersion cooling could become very interesting in the long run (older gens can run for longer, larger amounts of chips can be deployed).

for the amount of money we are giving them, we would get more than 5% ownership if we were venture capitalists.  We'd also get a bigger chunk of the profits.

what potential growth?  Even their own optimistic estimates put this at 6% APR with 50 new listings a year.  The investors here are taking ALL the risk and getting very little in return.

For the level of risk with this venture, we should be getting a bigger cut for us effectively loaning them our money.  Look at the other securities with similar risk profiles.  The APR is 30% or more.

I mean, 2 of their competitors closed within the last 2 months, and both competitors were considerably larger, had significantly more users/listings, had better service, had better interfaces/platforms, and they STILL closed.  What does HL bring to the market?  "We're not closed... yet"  In every single way, they offer an inferior service to those that have shut down.

On the subject of risk and some sort of mitigation for that risk, look at XBOND, they are paying 17% and have considerably less risk than this security.

Adults do the math, and when it doesn't add up, they ask questions.  I know you're new here, so I'll let that one slide, but you should really be asking questions, not jumping on those that do.

To make this even half way worthwhile for investors, you need to back up this security with some sort of insurance to mitigate the high risk. Typical return in this area is well over 30% APR for something with a similar risk profile.

So, if you are giving 6%, you need to come up with a way to lower that risk.

What are the requirements?

Damn. Is there any country where it is legal?

Love everybodies take on this!! Of course its all speculation no matter what you think, so no need to flame each other. I do think it will hit 1000.00 easy under a year from now, I also beleive there will be another selloff that will cause a huge drop again like after the 242.00 in April or whenever that was. We need transactions to happen not the Chinese hoarding them like pokemon cards! This huge buy up by them is fueling the raise in price obviously but when that hype is done and all those coins are dormant in a bitcoin wallet it doesnt help in my opinion. If they arent being spent it defeats the damn purpose of them, I kind of hate how people are using it as a stock investment. Not saying its wrong but in the long run its not a good thing when we want BTC to be a fully functioning payment and not a stock. When large amounts are held by any person or entity thats when the bullcrap happens.....example - what if Bill Gates bought up every available BTC tomorrow then put them in a wallet and tossed it in the ocean?? I know the results could be a million different scenarios but most of the possible outcomes arent too awesome, unless you think the remaining coins would be worth a million a piece which is not realistic. Just my opinion, I dont know for sure, none of us do or wed all be loaded right now. Cheers guys!