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1 person can keep the EFL marketcap over $1 000 000 but 100 000 people can't maintain $3 000 000 marketcap for NLG?
There is no marketcap for EFL. Last 4 days it had 1€ volume. So it’s dead. Officially. No trade, no development, dead. The marketcap it has is just were it passed away... R.I.P. EFL. NLG is just as dead as EFL to be fair::: like max 10 people interested in it these days  Trump has been impeached, the crypto market is going to rally if the deep state democrats gain power. I would also invest in XMR because you want anonymity from what's coming, under Obama and democrats the US was heading fast towards a communist state. |
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The benefits of 10% increase in rewards.
1. 30% drop in sat price on bittrex.
2. 12% drop in Euro price on Nocks.
You all must be thinking, no no no it's because bitcoin price has moon'd.
This brings us to number 3.
3. Coinmarketcap position dropped 11% , about to exit top 500.
Witness rewards to increase to 30, another almost 10% increase. Traders should dump to price this change in and get the misery over with.
Fake news. It has nothing to do with the reward increase but lack of high volume exchanges. Digibyte has almost 12.5 billion coins in circulation and releasing 636 coins every 15 seconds and the sat price is basically the same. Rijk did fuck up with one person ( Won't mention names ) that would of got Gulden listed in Binance, this person helped GRS get on Binance. When Nocks announce it was adding other coins i was worried because Rijk said this was Gulden only exchange and we don't need other exchanges but Nocks adds more coins and Gulden is not special on this exchange like it was. Gulden got screwed twice. All bad decisions and this is why with good development a bad value can happen. Yep. Good thing though: you can’t fix bad or non existing development that easy, but you can fix bad decisions. Gulden got a rough start, but has all the cards to play now. Momentum is gone This coin is dead Development continue just to put more money in the pocket of Rijk Has Rijk put a Euro of his own money into Gulden or is he still giving bad attitude to the investors that support his lifestyle? Is the GAB going to do marketing with the dev funding? I will take Rijk any day over the 1000 of scammers that abandoned there coins. Took the money and run. |
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The benefits of 10% increase in rewards.
1. 30% drop in sat price on bittrex.
2. 12% drop in Euro price on Nocks.
You all must be thinking, no no no it's because bitcoin price has moon'd.
This brings us to number 3.
3. Coinmarketcap position dropped 11% , about to exit top 500.
Witness rewards to increase to 30, another almost 10% increase. Traders should dump to price this change in and get the misery over with.
Fake news. It has nothing to do with the reward increase but lack of high volume exchanges. Digibyte has almost 12.5 billion coins in circulation and releasing 636 coins every 15 seconds and the sat price is basically the same. Rijk did fuck up with one person ( Won't mention names ) that would of got Gulden listed in Binance, this person helped GRS get on Binance. When Nocks announce it was adding other coins i was worried because Rijk said this was Gulden only exchange and we don't need other exchanges but Nocks adds more coins and Gulden is not special on this exchange like it was. Gulden got screwed twice. All bad decisions and this is why with good development a bad value can happen. Yep. Good thing though: you can’t fix bad or non existing development that easy, but you can fix bad decisions. Gulden got a rough start, but has all the cards to play now. A rough start also equals cheap price, if Gulden had all the exchanges and marketing in place the price would be much higher? I don't have to spend much to get 10 000 Gulden and if it drops to zero I don't care, it's money I can lose. SIGMA works well and witnessing for extra income while holding your original value is also epic. |
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De Gulden is terug, SIGMA is cool mensen!
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Not long to go before 353 TA is reached, all charts have this as the low for Gulden as mentioned in my previous posts.
43 sat away from the low. We are about to "witness" how powerful chart mapping is. This is a good time to buy if you can stomach a 43 sat loss in the short term. Let's go! Waiting a long time for these prices, never thought I would see the day but patience is a virtue. My buying range will be between 250 and 350. |
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Does anyone know when litebit will be online for Gulden, I can't purchase with them.
You can also purchase with Euros from Nocks.com and Guldentrader.nl or you can wait for litebit. The price is stable and won't go much up or down if you want to wait. |
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 You know that he will do it , this douche USD = Bitcoin, Turkish lira = Gulden. Trump = Bitcoin , Erdogan = Gulden Large sell order on bittrex @ 754, whales are trying to get out. |
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Time to buy Gulden. The double bottom is formed. Sky will be reached in a few hours.
You better be right because Rijk has added a poll for gulden to be disconnected from btc, btc pairings is blamed on guldens euro price drop because bitcoin price is dropping. **** [4:03 PM] what would the impact be if disconnected from BTC? **** [4:03 PM] no longer falling down when bitcoin price falls down Is there a way to prove btc pairings are not holding gulden euro prices down? This will make competition fair between EFL and NLG since we don't have a EUR pairing with litebit. I agree with Gulden on this move. I would support it, bitcoin has a long way to fall before it returns to the norm. Looking at the TA chart it's between $1500-$2000. I can use Nocks and most international traders and miners are only using Gulden to dump for bitcoin profit. Sell orders on bittrex have piled up and I don't see any hope of a 1000 sat for another year or two but if Gulden was only trading against the Euro people will think 1 Euro is cheap. |
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It seems that you bad boys missed out on Rijk answering honest criticism and doubts(?) about the Gulden project. Note: these people were honest people, interested in the way Gulden works. They did not involve other cryptocurrencies as a comparison.
He also joined the Telegram channels for Gulden to see what 'we' are talking about, and also answering questions there.
I am very glad Rijk opened his books to topics also discussed on this forum. Gulden is the most reliable project in the scene.
Look at channel #marketing today, you have to admit that post by bannedfromslack is comic genius. LOL!!!! |
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The thing is, is just a matter of time until Gulden gets really huge and noticeable, even without the marketing, mouth-to-mouth word spread fast, so buying now while is cheap is a great option, it's so obvious that Gulden will sky rocket again at some point in time, all you have to do is buy and be patient, that's literally all it takes to profit 50x+
People have been saying that for over 4 years now, want to wait another four? Sure I can wait as well, but think about this. Gulden indeed has produced great innovation. Other coins can now adopt that innovation and use their massive marketing budget to get way in front of Gulden again. Look at Tesla, great innovative car, first serious player on the market, no marketing. Company has never produced any profit though and has huge debts. Stock is rapidly dropping. Why? Volkswagen, BMW and Audi are taking over the market before Musk has figured out how to get production to a scale he can make a profit. By the time he is in over his head in Billions of debt and has his production in place, no one is going to buy them anymore because others have adopted his innovation and done production and marketing well. Time to act is NOW! Yesterday on the digibyte telegram group they talked about witnessing, if Jared implements this for digibyte it will take the world by storm with the marketing power he has. He might also mention Gulden developed it and that might help the Gulden price a bit while digibyte becomes a top 10 coin off the backs of the Gulden developers. |
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Trolls, your not needed to keep the price down, your job here is done.
The unintended consequences of witnessing rewards and possible solutions.
I wanted to wait a week after witnessing had started to confront this issue that most PoS coins suffer from and what makes DASH successful with it's masternode rewards. Witnessing from a technical stand point is a marvel that I would agree with most trolls has gone without much recognition outside of the gulden community. PoW2 has made Gulden the most secure block chain in crypto against a 51% attack because you need to have 70% of the total witness coins and mining power to perform one.
Where is the problem?
There is less incentive for gulden users to buy coins as they start to earn witness rewards. I have seen the same problem with coins that switch to PoS or a hybrid version of PoS and the community assumes with less dumping from miners there will be more buying pressure. This cannot be further from the truth.
The bittrex buy orders have shrunk to 4 btc at the lowest satoshi price Gulden has had in recent memory. Under normal circumstance users would be buying these prices up.
Why Dash can maintain a high value
Dash's PoW reward has decreased to 1.6 coins per block every 2.5 minutes with a growing base of users. It's simple economics.
What will Gulden developers be forced to do before the end of the year as despair takes hold of all the users?
The gulden developers will need to ask themselves this question...
Is the amount of new daily users enough to maintain a respectable price in the future with a PoW reward of 80?
There is a few options on the table if the answer is no.
1. Introduce a PoW reward reduction at certain intervals in order for demand to match supply and eventually for demand to surpass supply. A rising price is free marketing.
2. A valuable, penetrative and ongoing marketing campaign.
3. Approach businesses to make use of the Gulden block chain.
4. All of the above.
Price has dropped to 700 sat with less then 4btc buy support, looks like your analysis could be correct. Richpissman is quiet , must be happy gulden is on it's way to the abyss, he will be back if the price recovers. Changed my mind, another coin called Digibyte has over 11 billion supply and the SAT price is over 500, Gulden with over $400 million supply is at 600 SAT. It's not a supply problem but a marketing problem. Digibytes development is behind Guldens development progress but they do market digibyte very well and go to conferences and meet with business people. This is something Rijk is not doing for Gulden. Gulden total supply is 3.6% of digibytes total supply and digibyte releases far more coins per day then Gulden. 753 every 15 seconds for digibyte. 4 337 280 coins mined per day 100 reward every 150 seconds for Gulden. 57 600 coins mined per day This confirms supply is not a issue at all. PoW reward for Gulden is only 80 because of witnessing taking 20 and those funds are locked for a time period. PoW rewards are 46080 coins per day. Would someone get some tips from the digibyte community on what they do to get more users? |
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I have bitcoin supporting the prices on bittrex, I will do my best to keep the coin above 650sat, but a lot of selling pressure from traders, miners and witnesses. You can all suck my dick later for keeping the prices from falling to 500sat.
I do not know about the sucking your dick part but thx for supporting  Has the community thought about getting on Binance, a lot of traders on that exchange. That will not happend https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4769025.0Bittrex volumes have been declining since December, from rank 1 to rank 19 in volume. I personally like the exchange but because they based in the US they have to follow strict laws. As you can see the thin buy orders have kept the sat price stable, if someone dumps to 500, it's easy to pick it up above 700 sat and they lose a lot of proft. Place small bids and collect Gulden slowly. PoW miners will always be dumping at a constant flow. Rijk&Co will not be putting any effort or money into getting listed on new exchanges, they would rather put effort into getting delisted from Bittrex. If you want to get on other exchanges with Gulden, you would have to get at it yourself. This is exactly what Rijk plans to do, he stated many times in slack before he’d rather get rid of any exchange that has a BTC pairing to Gulden. Many think this is because he wants to detach from crypto and become autonomous with only fiat pairs. Truth is, it’s his way to gain total authoritarian control. You see, with BTC detached, only Nocks and Guldentrader will be workable exchange platforms and he has major control over them, for he funded their founders heavily from the premine. He would become the chairman of the central banks of Gulden. And you know what Rothschild once said about controlling a countries central bank right? Rijk believes the btc pairings are holding the price down, he might have a valid point here if you look at the buy orders on bittrex. 2.6btc... Gulden is not getting any international buy in. |
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These devs do output a lot of work. I will be honest, if I was a talented developer I would never be able to put my blood into this without good marketing behind me. I can at least respect the developers for sticking with Gulden when there is no marketing of their work. I 2nd the above, good marketing makes a impact or there wouldn't be marketing companies operating or marketing degrees if the industry didn't help take companies to new levels. |
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Is no marketing the reason for the ranking crash on coinmarketcap?
You tell us We cannot blame prices on Nocks because it is sold cheaper on Bittrex .... Bittrex is higher. Bittrex $0.060356 Nocks $0.060281 |
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wouldn't it be better if the crew did advertising and cognizance on stepping into high volume exchanges in place of high-quality improvement? The pinnacle 2 hundred cash on coinmarketcap reveals that doing no improvement but promoting their blockchain to uneducated hundreds reaps within the investments?
At least someone else here gets it. Make no mistake it must be hard for Rijk and his team to see lies with marketing win the day, but the people able to do this do have some capital behind them. Once you market you also need to fake volume and manipulate prices at the same time. Other coins are also setup just to do money laundering and these people don't give a fuck about the coin , all it has to do is be able to transfer coins from exchange to exchange. They will still have to market these coins to make it seem legitimate. To sum up what is guaranteed success in today's market when money laundering is not involved. 1. Marketing (Truth or Not) 2. Fake volume 3. Manipulate price The above 3 ingredients will always beat innovative development hands down while crypto is still in the wild west stage. Move forward 5 years and I believe this will be the time Gulden will shine for the following reasons. 1. Longevity and always improving what they have. 2. Gulden will have the moral high ground with no lying or faking to be used against them. Suffer now by not faking and have peace of mind in the future that the media can't use it against you. 3. They have proven multiple times they can push development to new heights, the coin has been getting better with time, not worse. The person investing in Gulden today shouldn't expect any stable ROI for another 5 years. The people who should invest in Gulden should be those people who have money they can do without. Not traders who trade to pay the rent off each month with profits. I still stand by my comment in the other post, MARKETING will need to be done because Gulden will one day have competition in development. |
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I wish I knew beforehand this coin wasn't a scam coin. I sold out in the last 24hrs on the small price rise. I knew after the update if the price wouldn't rise it never will. The truth is only scam coins with marketing fetch a high price. The world is based on lies and not truth. I admire Rijk for his truth but truth and hard work doesn't make anyone rich. That stopped in the 90s, when CNN and other mainstream media still told the truth. Why must Gulden be different? I feel sorry for you m8. You kept Gulden all the way and now after the update you are going to sell it all? There was somebody today who sold a lot on Bittrex and Nocks even for 0.055 and now it is allrdy back again @ 0.062 so it cost him or her over 10%  I think Gulden will make it in this strange crypto world and i think and hope that a developing coin will win it over a scam coin. It is not too late to buy some Gulden back Sugaman because it is still much to cheap. Have one time faith that telling the truth can pay off..... Everything sold under 0.06 i consider criminal I recall people saying it was criminal to sell at 12 cents, and also at 8 cents, now you are saying 6 cents, I wonder what people will say should we hit 4 cents... I think we might hit an ATH on suicide rates then, so people wont be saying too much. (PS Suicide is not the answer, call a suicide prevention hotline!) First I would like to congratulate the Malcolm and the other developers on releasing this update. Gulden has a good chance of having the best developers in crypto. Reading Rijks post I do have a rebuttal question. When the time comes that another coin does have as good development as Gulden, what will separate the two coins? Wouldn't it be marketing as then it is a race to get as many users onto your blockchain as possible compared to your competitors? |
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Too risky, I think Rijk is about to learn a lesson in the importance of marketing an update as huge as this. Coins with good marketing and no innovative development is destroying Gulden in price. To the new average user Gulden looks like a piece of shit project because of the price. |
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Yes we had to wait a long time for the update, but it seems they are going to deliver....
I don't see other, even top 50 coins do that....
I am sure it will be rewarded.
Gulden probably has the best development team but I doubt the price will rise because there is no marketing or attracting big investment. Big investment ends up investing in lower quality projects because they talk shit to the investors and it leaves a bad impression on alts in general. Gulden should be the coin investing in marketing because they actually have a lot to market in reality. Not promises but delivering on their whitepaper , mobile wallets and other innovations like the link feature. |
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Do you think Gulden is losing popularity? The negative posts have stopped quite a lot compared to a couple months ago or are people satisfied with the devs communication lately?
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