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I suggest that we stop discussing general strategy here for everybody/Phonetics to read.
Let us start working with an email list with the people who are willing to put money on the table to move this forward.
I am also willing to get active in this case and do some coordination work please pm me.
I will pay 0.5 BTC upfront to get this started. I am very sure we will get the 10k together.
We will sort this out guys. The legal way might be slow but eventually we will finish this.
PMing ateneto. Suggest anyone who wants to continue on with this do the same. |
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Phonetic, you stole $800 worth of Doge from me.
Money I need for a car and repairs. It's 6F in the mornings here, without windchill. My only vehicle is a motorcycle with an aircooled engine.
Ignoring comfort issues, as soon as I start moving, the engine drops below operating temperature.
I can't work until I get a car or until summer starts.
This is really fucking me over here.
If the dude fucking cared about what he's stolen from any of us he'd have done the right thing by now. We've lost. On the bright side, Karma is a bitch. He'll get his. |
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Any word back from the law firm?
Answered here. |
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Any word back from the law firm?
The guy I spoke with suggested a John Doe suit in federal court. Unfortunately he wanted $10k to get from initial filing through subpoenas then evidently the defendant has the right to fight the subpoenas and the subpoenaed entities have 2-3 weeks to comply ... and eventually it'd be /possible/ that we wouldn't get the identity (but likely that we would). Anyway, the $10k number was the real sticking point and wasn't anywhere near the identity bounty IF you could even get everyone who claimed they'd donate to do it. Basically I'm out of ideas. Unless someone else has gotten better figures from another attorney or we get Reddit to donate Jamaican Bobsled Team-style to the cause, we're probably SOL. |
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It's been suggested we use IRC instead. I'm fine with it. Chime in if you have an opinion one way or another.
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Trying to get everyone involved in to a Skype chat. |
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Hey - can we get everyone who's really involved with this to get in a group Skype chat? I think it'd make discussing some of this a lot easier.
I have another call with the lawyer today and expect we'll have some decisions to make and things to figure out.
Post your Skype username here or PM it to me and I'll add you.
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Yeah thanks to those who stepped up! I actually am supposed to be talking with the lawyer sometime today.
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Legal and otherwise detective work is being performed at the following thread:
Yes this is moving forward. Don't let the thread inactivity worry you.  We've had multiple CA residents step up willing to be plaintiffs. I'm waiting to hear back from the lawyer on next steps and fees. I'm hoping at this point the people who have put up for the identification bounty are willing to put their DOGE towards the suit and subpoena(s). Maybe I'm wrong - I'm assuming we're all but guaranteed identification if we subpoena DigitalOcean. |
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Any update on someone from Cali willing to set in motion the legal action to subpena cloudfare and bitcointalk for his identity? If you can't find someone in Cali I live in MI and would be willing to do whatever is necessary to identify and prosecute Phonetic considering the large amount of DOGE stolen from me.
No. I'm going to PM damiano and see if he's willing. Else I'll contact the lawyer and see what other states might work. |
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Not sure if anyone has already attempted this but I signed up for a paid account at domaintools.com to run a whois history report on scryptpools.com. I figured it may have been possible that the whois protection was added on after registering the domain rather than at the same time.
I was able to find 5 historical changes to the whois records but unfortunately none of them contained any personal details, only DNS changes between CloudFlare and the registrar.
If there are any other domains that may be linked to this guy please provide the details and I can attempt to run a history report.
I did the same and got the same results as you. But I've gotten a bunch more domains since then to lookup (and I've since cancelled domaintools account). PMing you some domains (there's a reason to keep them out of the forums at this point). |
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Hate to keep cross posting but I don't want any of the users on this thread to miss this. |
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I am actually in California, lost 4k Dogecoin...I duno if its worth the time and effort alone on my part for this.. I know some of you lost a lot
For me it's not about recovering any money, just exposing the scammer. As it stands if this keeps happening 1) it's going to become an easy target for scammers and 2) we're never (at least often not) going to know if we can trust the pools we mine with. If we identify him, not only can we expose him publicly, we can file an Internet Fraud complaint with the FBI. After that I don't really care what happens and I don't expect to retrieve any DOGE. |
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(cross-posted from the other thread)
Guys - we need someone from CA who got scammed to step up and be a plaintiff. As far as I know it's just a matter of putting your name on a legal document. Probably a short conversation with the lawyer for basic info. With that, we can get the subpoena(s) and identify Phonetic. I'm not sure how much further I can take it without someone to do this bit. Possibly the lawyer can use someone from another state. CA evidently has advantageous laws for this situation. Maybe there are other states, not as good as CA, but that are worth trying if we can't get someone from CA.
If you're willing to step up, PM me and let me know what state you live in.
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Guys - we need someone from CA who got scammed to step up and be a plaintiff. As far as I know it's just a matter of putting your name on a legal document. Probably a short conversation with the lawyer for basic info. With that, we can get the subpoena(s) and identify Phonetic. I'm not sure how much further I can take it without someone to do this bit. Possibly the lawyer can use someone from another state. CA evidently has advantageous laws for this situation. Maybe there are other states, not as good as CA, but that are worth trying if we can't get someone from CA.
If you're willing to step up, PM me and let me know what state you live in.
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If anyone who's been scammed lives in California is willing to be a plaintiff on this, please PM me or respond on this linked thread. |
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Is there anyone who's been scammed and lives in California (preferably San Francisco) willing to be a plaintiff on this? Evidently, California law is advantageous for this type of thing.
I'm in touch with an attorney who specializes in Internet fraud and who also has an interest in cryptocurrency. He's potentially willing to give us a break on the John Doe complaint.
With that we can get the subpoena(s).
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This law firm represented victims in a cryptocurrency class action before. Maybe they would be interested? http://www.gslawny.com/ They have the added advantage of being in the same state as Scryptpools' web host, Digital Ocean. Nice. I've also talked to a lawyer friend locally that claims could get their firm's services discounted. Personally I'm hoping that amount up for identification bounty is enough to cover filing the suit and issuing the subpoena to get the identity. Beyond that continuing with a civil suit probably doesn't make sense but then there's the criminal Internet fraud route. Would someone be willing to contact the above firm? I'll see if I can get a price out of my friend. |
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