In the absence of information, I have to dig the Internet. Without canceling the previously said, there is some information for objectivity. @Hatchet, she also Kristy-Leigh Minehan, has a good technical background and experience. https://clay.earth/profile/kristy-leigh-minehanOn the Internet you can find old interviews and articles with her (one, two ...). She has several accounts on Twitter. And there is an account here, inactive for a long time. Perhaps she had an unsuccessful experience related to bitcointalk, so she does not like bitcointalk. I can be wrong. It is also necessary to add that she was hired in the NEM as a technical manager (CTO). "Unchallenged authority in the sphere of crypto mining, Kristy-Leigh Minehan will be responsible for the progress of both NIS1 and NIS2 iterations of NEM blockchain" But in this case, communication issues with the community and financial issues outside its rights. But does she solve them? Perhaps later there was an expansion of her authority. Information is absent. Her face, habitus and way of speaking create an image of a person who, in my experience, is not very trustworthy. Especially the "big picture" there. However, I must admit that she can speak quite convincingly (many may believe) - although I did not listen to the details that closely. |
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“Nevertheless, we will try to catch the thread of the constructive.” I agree with you here. Would you develop a business idea on a blockchain that you have no information about the future or further development of ? Even if you have been familiar with this blockchain for a long time ? So many good projects have started worldwide with NEM. Why has no project really succeeded? Why did they migrate to other blockchains? Why were many successful startups from the community shut down ? Where you probably only make losses ? Japan and the rest of the world are very different. This problem already existed under NEM. Under Symbol it has taken on a much greater dimension. You've been around long enough to know that “tomorrow” was one of NEM's biggest problems. This was one of the reasons that led to Symbol. Under Symbol it is now “sometime” As @gimre wrote on twitter. For messages that are personal, you can use blockchain. End to end encrypted if that´s you want. This is what I meant when I said you can always get in touch with e.g. CB via the blockchain. The real problem is that nobody can trace who is involved in XEM/XYM at all. CB was gone too? How long ? Is there actually a pirate who is really working on NEM/SYBOL? And what is the justification for these pirates to pass off their node as a “community node” ? I would be ashamed. If you have the opportunity, you should go back a bit in @Hatchet's posts. Then you can read what she personally thinks about Bitcointalk. A Forum she can´t control.
- To resume at least one available forum for the wide community without censorship and with minimal moderation (in the beginning there was an excellent forum, it is now obvious that it was the best; but then it was closed and another forum appeared, worse and clumsy, which was also closed for some reason), twitter discord telegram are unsuitable for this purpose.
- I would like to at least occasionally see the presence of core developers on Bitcointalk (they have accounts).
The forum was closed by @Hatchet. Due to a dubious poll with few participants on Twitter(X). Maybe you can still find this vote on X somewhere. Is @gimre still a core developer ? Github ? Look at @gimre's last comment here, you even repeated it . So much for that. If some site / place is lost, why cannot be created another site by trusted people? Right at first glance. But still wrong. The trusted place is created or destroyed with the simultaneous development of the project. Which trusted person would you suggest? Unfortunately I do not know the NEM/Symbol's current people. I used to trust only to the Devs: "Any man who can code a working blockchain can’t be all bad.” |
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There is this interesting sentence from @Hatchet (discord): " All entities we are working are being built to diverse business lines outside of NEM and SYMBOL to ensure they have a life beyond either protocol and bring value to the broader cryptocurrency space. Diversification is business 101, after all " It is right to have a broad base. First of all, they should have a value for NEM/SYMBOL. But this also shows that this person doesn't give a damn about NEM/SYMBOL. ----------------------- " There are no public addresses. Funds for NEM Group and all prior entities are held in exchanges. The owner of these funds is either NEM Foundation, NEM Trust or NEM Ventures or NEM Group. The answer is "it depends" Funds may have originated from XEM, but may have appreciated or depreciated since they were originally converted. No, the shareholders will not share rates nor transaction records publicly. Holders of XEM or XYM are not shareholders of any of the aforementioned company, and that information has no benefit (nor has it any negative in not sharing). We have no interest in creating the appearance that if someone holds the token, thy are shareholders. NEM and SYMBOL are one of the many initiatives that NEM Group worked on. As I have mentioned before multiple times, there funds are not legally considered "protocol funds". They never have been. "protocol funds" specifically means tokens that have been reserved for protocol operations, or funding of community initiatives to help the project grow, subject to discretion of th managing teams(us). So far, only NEMTUS and Opening Line have been funded(and provided viable products that would benefit the ecosystem - such as their educational technical books, or EXYM). W(as the core team)have personally funded some initiatives(such as Arcana, or Quest). Protocol funds sit in the respective NCHEST accounts on XEM or XYM. All entities we are working are being built to diverse business lines outside of NEM and SYMBOL to ensure they have a life beyond either protocol and bring value to the broader cryptocurrency space. ... Source: " https://note.com/the_symbol_news/n/n711c2d922836" " ----------------------- I still wonder today how this person was able to gain so much power over NEM/SYMBOL. In the past, this might have been called a hostile takeover. Why is the core team personally funding initiatives like Arcana or Quest that are supposed to benefit the community and the XEM/XYM ecosystem? There was more than enough wealth (2021) to finance this from public funds and make it available to the community (when the value of XEM/XYM had not yet crashed). Control, influence, etc., of a small group ? Develop your own private projects, taking advantage of the then large XEM/XYM community ? Did the core team knowingly and deliberately cause prices to plummet ? It seems like everyone else is just a puppet and the community is a bunch of sheep(especially in japan). Who are the current members of the Nem Foundation, NEM group etc.? Shouldn't these companies actually be dissolved(NEM Foundation, NEM Group, etc.) ? Wasn't this the big announcement from @Hatchet back then ? And the most important question ... Who are the shareholders?thx Another question to be placed here: ___________________________________ when I have read the above text more carefully .... |
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“Nevertheless, we will try to catch the thread of the constructive.” I agree with you here. Would you develop a business idea on a blockchain that you have no information about the future or further development of ? Even if you have been familiar with this blockchain for a long time ? So many good projects have started worldwide with NEM. Why has no project really succeeded? Why did they migrate to other blockchains? Why were many successful startups from the community shut down ? Where you probably only make losses ? Japan and the rest of the world are very different. This problem already existed under NEM. Under Symbol it has taken on a much greater dimension. You've been around long enough to know that “tomorrow” was one of NEM's biggest problems. This was one of the reasons that led to Symbol. Under Symbol it is now “sometime” As @gimre wrote on twitter. For messages that are personal, you can use blockchain. End to end encrypted if that´s you want. This is what I meant when I said you can always get in touch with e.g. CB via the blockchain. The real problem is that nobody can trace who is involved in XEM/XYM at all. CB was gone too? How long ? Is there actually a pirate who is really working on NEM/SYBOL? And what is the justification for these pirates to pass off their node as a “community node” ? I would be ashamed. If you have the opportunity, you should go back a bit in @Hatchet's posts. Then you can read what she personally thinks about Bitcointalk. A Forum she can´t control.
- To resume at least one available forum for the wide community without censorship and with minimal moderation (in the beginning there was an excellent forum, it is now obvious that it was the best; but then it was closed and another forum appeared, worse and clumsy, which was also closed for some reason), twitter discord telegram are unsuitable for this purpose.
- I would like to at least occasionally see the presence of core developers on Bitcointalk (they have accounts).
The forum was closed by @Hatchet. Due to a dubious poll with few participants on Twitter(X). Maybe you can still find this vote on X somewhere. Is @gimre still a core developer ? Github ? Look at @gimre's last comment here, you even repeated it . So much for that. If some site / place is lost, why cannot be created another site by trusted people? |
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Why, o why? Always this happens ... |
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@AntiNoise. You say the right things. I can add a little details relative to the resources for communication.
It all started a long time ago, without Hatchet, when one by one, forums were eliminated one by one. The first forum was completely destroyed, the second was transferred to the read only mode. These were excellent platforms for communication and coordination. Communication was switched to Telegram, which is suitable only for short notes and garbage. Everyone broke up through several channels, which expectedly degenerated to zero.
Subsequently, an even worst option, Twitter, was involved. This is a terrible platform. Everything crushed through individual accounts without feedback.
Channel in discord? Is it there? Maybe I am so stupid, but I could not get there, even after I overcame a heavy quest for the registration.
Bitcointalk was for some reason abandoned, but the story of NEM began with him. The main developers have not been come here for several years, or I am mistaken. Where is the feedback with them, let me know if you know. It’s good if they at least sometimes read Bitcointalk, but I doubt it.
As a result, in the public field NEM is actually absent. That's why I began to duplicate the data on the supernode program here. Turn them out of Twitter is not an easy task. I did not immediately find the Cryptobeliever channel, I extracted the data for the first 2-3 months directly from the blockchain. I hold a few nodes, I need it and I am glad if I help someone.
If we speak in general again, Jaguar and Gimre still have resources and the possibility of management. They are cool programmers, but their style as they themselves said a ninja style. Therefore, they need a manager to promote projects, not only NEM, but also Symbol. If Hatchet failed to show effectiveness, only they (probably) can decide on the change of manager, as well as resume public communication. It's not too late.
They may be here without logging in. It is 2 years since gimre and BloodyRookie have been here, and even 5 years from B's last post here  Accidentally 2 years for both of them ... and "2" also for utopianfuture  "ninja" ... aa, that's why the first NEM site was https://bob.nem.ninja/. The Manager should have visions, and luck to choose visions which are possible to be implemented and which will work... and then "they will come". |
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I think, most likely the main real reason for the decision was the insufficient from the point of view of the exchange, the volume of bidding XEM.
No, that was not exactly the reason. Have a look at Github, inform yourself on other sites. Then you will see how dead this project has become. A simple example ? Look at @XAVI, who is responsible for the documentation. He was gone for two years. During this time nobody took care of it. @Hatchat is all about control. That's why the community was destroyed and limited to Japan, which looks more like incest to me. There was a photo in the forum back then that @Hatchet posted. A parrot, wrapped in some clothes, sitting on a shopping trolley outside a supermarket so it couldn't fly away. This is exactly what happened with the XEM / XYM community. There were enough resources available to initiate a sensible development spread across many countries. These were not utilised. Is @gimre even a core dev anymore ? All information, in all official sites, but also CMC, etc., about this project has long been lost. about this project is long out of date and only partially correct. This is exactly the reason. Look at the last upgrade of NEM, how badly it was implemented. Why should someone starting with blockchain sign up with ‘X’ to get testnet coins to try out XEM/XYM ? These should be freely available! Why should someone register with "X" to take part in a dialogue? @Hatchet: " We are also considering making Twitter account verification mandatory. We know that most members of the community have Twitter accounts, but we would like to hear your views on this. " What a load of bollocks and this woman knows it. I remember well in 2021 when she complained that hardly anyone from the community was on ‘X’. Just as a simple reminder ... ‘permissionless blockchain’ ‘don't trust, verify’He should be. His 10 stakes are still there: https://explorer.nemtool.com/#/s_account?account=NDS3R3ZVAUCQGIU4GUG7L56II4IIXBGIMREL45YG |
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https://upbit.com/service_center/notice?id=5134On May 19, 2025, the Upbit South Korean crypto exchange included XEM in the list of cautious trade, and deposit services were temporarily suspended. UPBIT conducts a detailed check of the digital asset to determine whether to extend, lift or ultimately terminate trading support. I think, most likely the main real reason for the decision was the insufficient from the point of view of the exchange, the volume of bidding XEM. Weak hands are losing, strong hands take ) Its good time to buy? No, XEM/XYM simply no longer has a global community. This is exactly the point. This was destroyed by @hatchet out of self-interest. Certainly also one of the reasons why she will not be in Japan in 2025. The resentment here is also quite great. Besides, nobody knows what or even who is doing anything here. No community anywhere? Twitter, Telegram ? |
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Not at all. I mean that at a short distance you can earn well on fluctuations in the course. Directly at this moment when I write the price rose by 26%.
As for the criticism of the bosses, I agree. Communications are destroyed. But nothing prevents interested users from communicating on this forum for example. Of course, communication is not equal to the community, but everyone can contribute to the information field. It is bad when a vacuum.
Here you have the reason why the price rises slightly after becoming almost worthless. Binance, Bithumb, Upbit, .... Look at XPX, if it continues like this, this is the future of XEM / XYM. Blaming and destroying the global community for your own mistakes says a lot about that person's ability and leadership." After further review of the virtual asset, Upbit determined that the reason for designating NEM as a trading caution item has not been resolved, and decided to terminate trading support in accordance with the digital asset caution item designation and trading support termination policy. " (Google translate) Notice Trade NEW Notice on Termination of Trading Support for NEM(XEM) (7/3 15:00) Created 2025.06.02 19:30 Share 안녕하세요. 가장 신뢰받는 글로벌 표준 디지털 자산 거래소 업비트입니다. 넴(XEM)의 거래지원 종료를 안내드립니다. 참고 : 넴(XEM) 거래 유의 종목 지정 안내 [거래지원 종료 관련 유의사항] 디지털 자산의 거래지원 종료는 업비트 디지털 자산 거래지원 종료 정책에 의거 합니다. : 업비트 디지털 자산 거래지원 종료 정책 해당 디지털 자산은 2025-07-03(목) 15:00 KST 에 거래지원을 종료합니다. 거래지원 종료 시, 마켓에서 거래지원 종료 이전에 요청한 주문(매수/매도)은 일괄 취소됩니다. 본 공지 이후, 거래지원 종료 예정인 디지털 자산에 대한 에어드랍, 월렛 업그레이드, 하드포크 등의 서비스는 지원하지 않을 예정입니다. [디지털 자산 거래지원 종료 안내] 넴(XEM) 대상 마켓 : XEM/KRW, XEM/BTC 거래지원 종료 예정일 : 2025-07-03(목) 15:00 KST 거래지원 종료 사유 업비트는 넴(XEM)에 대해서 가상자산 거래지원 모범사례에 따라 업비트는 넴(XEM)에 대해서 가상자산 거래지원 모범사례에 따라 가상자산 관련 중요사항에 대한 공시 여부 및 정도, 가상자산 보유자의 의사결정 참여 가능성, 사업의 실재성과 지속가능성, 가상자산 커뮤니티의 활성도 등을 종합적으로 고려했을 때 미진한 부분이 확인되어 2025년 5월 19일 넴 디지털 자산을 거래 유의 종목으로 지정하였습니다. 이후 가상자산에 대해서 추가적으로 면밀히 검토해 본 결과 업비트는 넴의 거래 유의 종목 지정 사유가 해소되지 않은 것으로 판단하고 디지털 자산 유의 종목 지정 및 거래지원 종료 정책에 따라 거래지원 종료를 결정하였습니다.해당 디지털 자산의 마켓 거래지원이 종료되더라도, 거래지원종료정책에 의거하여 거래지원 종료일로부터 30일간(~2025-08-04) 출금을 지원합니다. 위 디지털 자산의 출금이 필요하신 회원님들께서는 반드시 2025-08-04 전까지 출금을 진행해주시기 바랍니다. 거래지원 종료된 자산을 입금(또는 착오전송)한 경우, 입금 반영이 불가하며 출금 지원 기간이 종료된 이후 기술적인 사유로 (착오전송) 반환에 매우 오랜 시간이 소요될 수 있으니 반드시 주의하시길 바랍니다. 고객님의 안전한 거래를 위해 항상 최선을 다하는 업비트가 되겠습니다. 감사합니다. ※ 가상자산은 고위험 상품으로 투자금의 전부 또는 일부 손실을 초래할 수 있습니다. The lang of this site = ENG, isn't it. |
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XEM ALL TIME LOW ? 0.00000007  XYM a bit higher .... |
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new NEM questions: What has happened to the XEM Silver coin account and plans? If I am not getting the coin, please give it in cash What is Protocol Treasury Account, which has 2.4*10E9 XEMs ? Protocol Treasury Account has over 25 %. Who controls that account? In Symbol is not yet such a big account, but almost: https://symbolnodes.org/richlist/NCHEST3QRQS4JZGOO64TH7NFJ2A63YA7TPM5PXI ~ 20 %. The same continues ... # Account XEM µXEM Info 1 NANEPSBUVE5NLYXCTP52LK3YAOSZUAIVOAD4FGSV 2,669,910,674.00 2669910674004683 2 NCHESTYVD2P6P646AMY7WSNG73PCPZDUQNSD6JAK 1,830,610,951.82 1830610951822326 Protocol Treasury Account 3 NA2P5F6DHPZMUJMKR2E2HNBFHDQVC3YRYNPFEH3V 603,260,927.21 603260927206897 Coincheck -- Exchange 4 NDJJQBVYULBZTKR2UCERXYRWXOUWVYH6ATI6OIAA 414,045,622.79 414045622789640 5 NC4LZGE7SFTN7QXMQM72W6CB3TF3FKYHVGVKS27N 409,150,988.85 409150988851178 6 NCT7LUEQJI3W5BELZVD7SLNUTZEKX4XAEVTRTYQZ 404,352,001.10 404352001100000 7 NAXF4PC4RUB7HRKCCVDWFLILUUAO2HRETM34OCQZ 313,283,331.94 313283331938664 8 NBCOABQGPNI356MN3Y2VGW3Q2MQ5GNBLTVU64OXU 166,782,412.75 166782412747759 BUT Protocol Treasury Account has spent 600 000 000 XEM ... to what? And who owns the biggest account ? Top 50 owns now 85,9 % of all XEMs. The % has risen in a year from 83.9%. As the XEM Silver coin will not be shared, I would like the XEMs instead. That would be fair ... and actually aN Equal Move. |
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new NEM questions: What has happened to the XEM Silver coin account and plans? If I am not getting the coin, please give it in cash What is Protocol Treasury Account, which has 2.4*10E9 XEMs ? Protocol Treasury Account has over 25 %. Who controls that account? In Symbol is not yet such a big account, but almost: https://symbolnodes.org/richlist/NCHEST3QRQS4JZGOO64TH7NFJ2A63YA7TPM5PXI ~ 20 %. |
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NEM (XEM) seems to be more "moving" than SYM (XYM).
The XEM's price is now almost double.
What could cause such a big cap between the "twins"?
... investors' balance in their pockets: too much XYMs ?
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Does any new Alt coin have such "atmosphere" as NEM had in 2014 - 2015 ?
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Mmmhh....., this is not right.
What is not right? My profile hackered? hmmm... I had 12-"digit" password, but something went wrong. Hopefully it is just some error in this site. The ads in jkoil's current posts are new... I had not those. Maybe the above is now a read page, which can be turned over now https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5404539.msg63714208#msg63714208 |
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Congratulation to @jkoil back to natural owner and seems all negative feedback due your account hack have been removed, you can start with new journey right now after several moths losing access to your own account. I think you need to make some topic about how to recovery account was hack and many user here ever in your position after they are losing with their account access. You can make little advice or guide how you can recovering your account back and how long time you need when your account back to your hands, maybe will helped many user when losing their account due hacked access and they know what have to do. Thanks. good suggestion... what would be a right location for the "advices for hacked" topic?
--- (Finally) Here would be some sort of description of how my BTT account fell into the wrong hands, sold, etc. No other explanation has been found than the fact that the email account associated with the BTT account was not used for 6 months. The email service provider had changed the "inactive time" from 1 year to 6 months, which caused my "mistake" = "forgetting" (or missed the provider's notification email in other email inboxes). After the email account had been inactive for 6 months, it was closed and then the email address was released to the open markets. And someone X had taken it from there - for free. And after that he had either sold that email account to Y, or reset the BTT password. Anyway, either X, Y or Z took over my BTT account in July 2022. I don't know how X would have guessed to try BTT-resetting, because there shouldn't have been any connection between the email address and BTT anywhere. I am remembering that the email address has been 'hidden' in my BTT settings. Therefore there would be 3 options, why X decided to try to reset the BTT password: 1) pure guess or systematically tried for several sites 2) the email account had not been cleaned properly, but there would have been some emails that contained "bitcointalk" 3) Has there been a data leak on the BTT website? At least some years ago there was a warning on the page about "some hacking". That was the reason, why I changed my email address in that time. But, I do not know, if the email addresses could have been leaked then? X tried to cover his tracks with different stories, e.g. that Google Support helped him. It couldn't have been true, because Google was in no way connected to my BTT account or my BTT email account. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5405076.msg60525631#msg60525631Problem solution: In August 2022 I contacted the BTT (admins and recoveries...@bitcointalk.org), and received instructions. In December 2022 "BTT jury" decided that I am the real owner of the jkoil account. Maybe the delay was caused by the missing PGP or Bitcoin signature... I have used no Bitcoin address on this forum; the only way to prove myself was to send a signed message from may NEM ICO wallet. Also it may have helped a bit that I have written in the same "style" and "language" since Dec 2013 At least some members recognized the imposter by his postings Other related: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5405076.msg60706810#msg60706810https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5089777.0 ( signatures, etc. ) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5405076.msg60529510#msg60529510 ( "if a user never used a bitcoin address anywhere on this forum.." ) PS. Since the problem was not related to password hacking, I still avoid using the password managers ... for my important passwords. |
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new NEM questions: What has happened to the XEM Silver coin account and plans? If I am not getting the coin, please give it in cash What is Protocol Treasury Account, which has 2.4*10E9 XEMs ? |
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Wow! Thread is still active while i haven't....
Soon will be 2000 pages. Maybe not yet, when XEM and XYM are back over 100 sat ;-) |
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Above was mentioned PoI ... was somewhere discussed, what was the reason to change or drop(?) PoI from Symbol ?
If that is a question, short answer is: PoI does not scale. What would scalability mean in blockchain; was it depending on the count of transactions ? I have thought that the calculation of the PoI could have been modified to adjust to different situations/trends... |
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The case of the captured account is now solved by Bitcointalk account recoveries / The Bitcoin Forum Team.
Congratulations. Thanks. As this BTT is the most important international "platform" for me - actually the only one , this was good result. I do not know, whether the hacker got any "penalties" or even if he is known. ... The hacker got away whole and triumphant. They never got him. Its the guy who busted Bo Shen. U know that guy? Nut-head held 550K lqty in a contract then something went amok and his address was burglarized. Whatever LQTY it had in, was dumped on binance. The guy taking over nem blockchain rn is the same entity. Bo Shen? Not heard before. Do you mean that the LQTY-thief was the same, who took my Bitcointalk-account? "taking over nem blockchain" ---- What do you mean? .. that guy can access the NEM addresses? (Still the rich list look quite stable: https://nemnodes.org/richlist/ ) Accidentally (?) at this hour many coins are dropping : https://coinmarketcap.com/fi/currencies/nem/ |
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