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Just wanted to point out most of this article is just a "copy-paste" from other websites/articles. He might have added a "reference", aka where he just copied the stuff from (which is plagiarism from an academic point of view since 98% of it is from the other website...) but it is nonetheless still just a copy-paste, changing a few things here and there ("Dash" with "BiblePay", etc..) |
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It seems that the volumes are wrong at CoinMarketCap. How are they getting those numbers? This info should be automatically pulled from the exchange. Right? The 24h volume seems correct? it's just some days the volume is low (less than 1k like today), and some days it's much higher. |
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Of course language barrier. I encounter with language barrier every day. If you are not native english speaker please dont start the panic with your fabricated suppositions. Its very easy to say that something is scam or feik. Please now is here the place for an appology... !!
SVK, I am a native English speaker. The call center does not appear to be. I think it's fair for someone to report what they are told, I called myself to help confirm. There is far too much judgement in this thread, people accusing others of being malicious when they are trying to help. Can confirm that. I think the issue is really that there's no "count" provided by the system so they have to do it themselves...which doesn't seem reliable (aka you got 304 and I got 308 and 60 before...). I wonder if the representative I talked to before didn't wait for all the pages to load before giving me that number. I think the best way to prevent that might be to add a note to the account. Thanks for taking the time to call thesnat21. Now we can both provide our testimony that we called Compassion and there is an organisation called Biblepay under the account number provided in the previous pages that is sponsoring around 304 or 308 or something around that number...children. =) |
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No I called and BBP definitely exists under the account number provided and name "Biblepay". The only issue is that for some reasons he only saw 60 children sponsored. @Rob should just call and check it himself. Idk if they are in a different system, different account number, etc.
The purpose this coin is to sponsor much as children as possible. Talks about scam harm us and harm the children that could benefit from us. What will help here is that every charity organization will add the details of our sponsored children to their web site. There are a lot of charity organizations. we should sponsor only those who agree to this term. I don't think it necessarily harms us. But I don't think the defensive attitude is good to a point where constructive feedback/communication is not possible, especially towards people actually trying to help and being genuine. Obviously we/I know it is legit and we should just all work together to make sure the accurate and necessary information is out there for all to see. That is all. I just called and they confirmed 304 children, could not give me details as to future payments. This general # seems to go to a call center. There seemed to be some language barrier issues.  Of course language barrier. I encounter with language barrier every day. If you are not native english speaker please dont start the panic with your fabricated suppositions. Its very easy to say that something is scam or feik. Please now is here the place for an appology... !! Are you talking to me? Because I think I have been nothing but accurate in conveying exactly what I did, the result and I got and was just checking with Rob about it? So I just called again and he actually gave me 308 children. I talked with the representative more extensively about why I got 60 previously..and apparently the issue is that they're "counting manually" (x children per page and they count how many pages) and their system is not the best with responding to that sort of requests as there are too many children under the account and it takes too long to load everything. I think Rob should call them and add a note about it for anyone who's asking to verify the information. |
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No I called and BBP definitely exists under the account number provided and name "Biblepay". The only issue is that for some reasons he only saw 60 children sponsored. @Rob should just call and check it himself. Idk if they are in a different system, different account number, etc.
The purpose this coin is to sponsor much as children as possible. Talks about scam harm us and harm the children that could benefit from us. What will help here is that every charity organization will add the details of our sponsored children to their web site. There are a lot of charity organizations. we should sponsor only those who agree to this term. I don't think it necessarily harms us. But I don't think the defensive attitude is good to a point where constructive feedback/communication is not possible, especially towards people actually trying to help and being genuine. Obviously we/I know it is legit and we should just all work together to make sure the accurate and necessary information is out there for all to see. That is all. I just called and they confirmed 304 children, could not give me details as to future payments. This general # seems to go to a call center. There seemed to be some language barrier issues. Yes it is just their call center number as this is what was provided in the instructions to verify the information. That's good if you were able to confirm 304 children. I'm not sure where the representative I talked to got the 60 children. I will call back now and see if I get the same result. |
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No I called and BBP definitely exists under the account number provided and name "Biblepay". The only issue is that for some reasons he only saw 60 children sponsored. @Rob should just call and check it himself. Idk if they are in a different system, different account number, etc.
The purpose this coin is to sponsor much as children as possible. Talks about scam harm us and harm the children that could benefit from us. What will help here is that every charity organization will add the details of our sponsored children to their web site. There are a lot of charity organizations. we should sponsor only those who agree to this term. I don't think it necessarily harms us. But I don't think the defensive attitude is good to a point where constructive feedback/communication is not possible, especially towards people actually trying to help and being genuine. Obviously we/I know it is legit and we should just all work together to make sure the accurate and necessary information is out there for all to see. That is all. |
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Brian879 when im phoned,i wanted any bank acc, ID from them about this sponsoring .... its so hard post here transparent screens,proofs and etc? price of BBP falling....its so good  doesnt exists any PR from compassion on their web and this is main info for us They won't give you that information for obvious privacy reasons.....but they can tell you how many children are sponsored under an account number. |
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Lies make me sad. And angry. I know it isn't all about me or anything but please, let's stop the lies. Too many people are working too hard on having a real impact to have to deal with this unmerited foolishness.
Please call the call center yourself in an hour and see if you can get a different information...Again Biblepay exists under the right account number and the same name, but the representative just said that there was only 60 children sponsored under that account number. Rob should just call and check it himself. Idk if they are in a different system, different account number, etc. Again, I just followed the instructions provided: Here you go guys: COMPASSION INTL ORGANIZATION NAME: BIBLEPAY ACCOUNT #: 07816292 PHONE# : (800) 336-7676 HOURS: Monday through Friday, 7 a.m. to 5:30 p.m. Mailing address: Compassion International Colorado Springs, CO 80997 ORG CONTACT: ROBERT A. https://www.compassion.com/contact/ - (800) 336-7676 |
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im still dont understand where is transparent link from selling BBP when im asked Rob,in other side he deleted my questions, transparent bank account where Rob sending $/€, where is PR on compassion page that BIBLEPAY sponsoring children?
You shouldnt be sponsoring our orphans with stolen electricity. No, I deleted your posts with swears. I actually responded to all the legitimate questions, sometimes with questions but you never responded because you don't read back nor care. stolen? what are you talking about? are you on drugs?Christian and accusing others. Storms,Thunders and Lightning to you Brian879 owners of 3 exchanges told me that BBP is scam coin....... im talked with compassion too and told me that doesnt exists any info about biblepay sponsoring doesnt exists proofs from BBP side ... No I called and BBP definitely exists under the account number provided and name "Biblepay". The only issue is that for some reasons he only saw 60 children sponsored. @Rob should just call and check it himself. Idk if they are in a different system, different account number, etc. |
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Hmmm why the discrepancy? Compassion.com has been around a long time... Hope it is just an error in number lookup or accounting.
Theymos point about not having multisig address is a concern if Rob has a catastrophic malady. There's no backup if no one else has the private key.
The reason for the discrepancy is not known yet but I am sure Rob will sort it out. Again, I am not doubting the legitimacy of BBP or the number of children sponsored. I just want to make sure the house is in order first as it will be easier to convince others. |
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So I just called Compassion myself and for what it is worth, it was a bit troublesome to get the info but the guy said there was only 60 children sponsored right now? Is there more than this account? ACCOUNT #: 07816292
Could you check with them what happened with the other children @Rob? Also, it would be nice if you could ask them to add a note to the account to make it a little easier to get that info.
There is no way they can come up with 60, lets have more detailed info on your contact. T-Mike was successful with 305 plus 3 months of prepaid, so that contradicts your call. Regarding the RPC, let's make it so the statement of 100% provable by the RPC. I don't agree that accountability.biblepay is not 100% provable. Over time, it has been 100% provable. So today, you do have enough info to see that we are not a scam. Don't error on the side of Theymos, which is on the side of ignorance and guessing, it's not common sense to error that way. I'm not doing anything but reporting on what I have. Do I believe you fabricated the receipts and are not sponsoring the amount of children you say you are sponsoring? No. Having said that, we can just work together on making sure that everyone can be sure of the same thing. That is all I am saying. "I don't agree that accountability.biblepay is not 100% provable. Over time, it has been 100% provable." If I was running an elaborate scam, I could fabricate receipts. That's why the only 100% proof is to check with the charity itself. I could argue that anything you provide could be fabricated. Again, I do not believe it is the case. I do not agree on your "common sense" comment. I believe it is more common sense to be careful, especially in the altcoin markets, than just believing everything at face value...as there is a lot of scam. To make sure the message is conveyed to you, I do not believe BBP is that. T-Mike emailed someone. I just called the Compassion number and explained that I wanted to check how many children were sponsored under that account # and name and the guy gave me 60. I do not know how he came up with that number, but that's the number he gave me. Maybe you can check with them? Also, could add a note to make it easy for people calling to check that too? |
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So I just called Compassion myself and for what it is worth, it was a bit troublesome to get the info but the guy said there was only 60 children sponsored right now? Is there more than this account? ACCOUNT #: 07816292
Could you check with them what happened with the other children @Rob? Also, it would be nice if you could ask them to add a note to the account to make it a little easier to get that info.
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It would be nice for the 2 other charities (BLOOM and CameroonONE) to have an official document/statement and/or mention on their websites as just "testimonials" reported by someone are not really a proof of anything.
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Just gonna add that in the meantime, I think "accountability.biblepay.org" should be way more advertised. It does not provide enough information alone (how to prove documents are not fabricated, reconcile BBP amount sold with proposals, other charities, etc.) but it is a good start.
Yes, you can click on the link in the wallet but that would assume I already have installed the wallet which I wouldn't do before "checking" the coin. I think that URL should be somewhere very noticeable on the official website and in the OP too.
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Rejected. I've decided that masternode coins can sometimes be acceptable, but Biblepay seems highly deceptive. For example, you say "10% of the emission goes to sponsoring Orphans, with provable contributions," but: - 10% of the monthly emission should be somewhere around 6 million coins, but the monthly trade volume tends to be only slightly higher than this, which is unbelievable if you're actually selling the coins in order to make donations. - This 10% goes to a hardcoded non-multisig address with no explanation. - "THE COIN HAS RPC COMMANDS THAT PROVE 100% OF CONTRIBUTIONS ARE SPENT THE WAY INTENDED" is completely false. The RPC command just totals up all of the payments to the hardcoded address. What happens after the coins go to that address is unexplained. - There is no non-profit registration, receipts for donations, any info about the people who are supposedly facilitating donations, etc. Biblepay looks like a generic coin with hardcoded dev subsidy plus some probably-totally-fabricated marketing about orphans. I saw him replying. Are you going to address his points togoshigekata? 1) is with no doubt false...not sure where he took his data but I saw way more than 6 mil bbp/month sold in the last 2 months on ccex alone... 2) He seems to be referring to the old way tithe was done which is no longer the case since BBP switched to masternodes and dash-like governance.... 3) That is true. The RPC commands don't give anything else but the total payments to one address so it prob shouldn't be advertised as that as it is misleading 4) which leads to this point which is untrue. BBP is not registered as a non-profit but there are receipts from Compassion + you can call them to make sure everything matches..not sure if the 2 other charities could also give us "official" documents on what BBP does for them... He seems to have very misleading information on the current state of BBP and I'm not really sure when he got all of that. All his points but 3) could be addressed really quickly and it seems that there should be massing focus/effort on proving 4) in an easily accessible and reliable way for newcomers... Also forgot to add that the 10% should probably not be advertised or worded differently as it is "At least" 10% but the actual % has been way more than that. I'm going to PM him now. Hes wrong about our monthly volume, he obviously didnt track it. I believe c-cex has trade history available in the API, and the days that I sold the compassion coins caused Double the volume (not slightly more than) because every coin sold had a buyer. Hes also wrong about the deceptive nature. Our RPC command only has the total, but the details are all stored in the sql database, and its pretty easy to reconcile since 95% of our children are 38$ per month (IE each record reverse engineers correctly). We also had Ginger and Mike Lins statement this month that proves from inception to date all the money went to compassion (which is over 90% of the money we spent on charity). She also wrote a blurb about our credit balance there. I think he's specifically talking about this wording "THE COIN HAS RPC COMMANDS THAT PROVE 100% OF CONTRIBUTIONS ARE SPENT THE WAY INTENDED". He's right on that point. There are other way other than the RPC commands but the RPC commands alone do not "PROVE 100% OF CONTRIBUTIONS ARE SPENT THE WAY INTENDED". That wording should be modified. It is misleading. As I said in the previous post, there should be an easier/faster way to prove the legitimacy of BBP other than the pool website. 1) You have to know that the information you want is there (aka it is not just a pool to mine) 2) Create an account 3) Try to find and reconcile the information yourself (including the proposals from the forum, etc) Not all the information you need is also there such as more info about the two other charities or how to call Compassion to verify the documents are not fabricated. I also think a mention of BBP on the official websites of the two other charities would be great on top of some sort of official statement/document to prove what BBP does for them. In the end, there should be way to verify BBP claims in less than 10 minutes. |
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Rejected. I've decided that masternode coins can sometimes be acceptable, but Biblepay seems highly deceptive. For example, you say "10% of the emission goes to sponsoring Orphans, with provable contributions," but: - 10% of the monthly emission should be somewhere around 6 million coins, but the monthly trade volume tends to be only slightly higher than this, which is unbelievable if you're actually selling the coins in order to make donations. - This 10% goes to a hardcoded non-multisig address with no explanation. - "THE COIN HAS RPC COMMANDS THAT PROVE 100% OF CONTRIBUTIONS ARE SPENT THE WAY INTENDED" is completely false. The RPC command just totals up all of the payments to the hardcoded address. What happens after the coins go to that address is unexplained. - There is no non-profit registration, receipts for donations, any info about the people who are supposedly facilitating donations, etc. Biblepay looks like a generic coin with hardcoded dev subsidy plus some probably-totally-fabricated marketing about orphans. I saw him replying. Are you going to address his points togoshigekata? 1) is with no doubt false...not sure where he took his data but I saw way more than 6 mil bbp/month sold in the last 2 months on ccex alone... 2) He seems to be referring to the old way tithe was done which is no longer the case since BBP switched to masternodes and dash-like governance.... 3) That is true. The RPC commands don't give anything else but the total payments to one address so it prob shouldn't be advertised as that as it is misleading 4) which leads to this point which is untrue. BBP is not registered as a non-profit but there are receipts from Compassion + you can call them to make sure everything matches..not sure if the 2 other charities could also give us "official" documents on what BBP does for them... He seems to have very misleading information on the current state of BBP and I'm not really sure when he got all of that. All his points but 3) could be addressed really quickly and it seems that there should be massing focus/effort on proving 4) in an easily accessible and reliable way for newcomers... Also forgot to add that the 10% should probably not be advertised or worded differently as it is "At least" 10% but the actual % has been way more than that. |
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Ive submitted us for a slot for a Bitcointalk Banner Ad again,
I think we have a higher chance of not getting rejected this time
Why do you think so? January, we were rejected, for being a Masternode coin February 13th, Argo was rejected, Masternode coin April 9th, Phore, Masternode coin, got 2 banner ads! I havent tried again for a long time, given that Phore got an ad I think we have a chance, otherwise I will appeal in the Meta section BiblePay had no premine and was launched on Bitcointalk I don't think that has anything to do with being a "masternode" coin. It depends on wether there was an ICO or not. If there was a premine and the dev sold a portion of the coins to early backers..it means there was an ICO...it doesn't matter what "type" of coins it is. I think that might have been where the confusion was and why it was rejected...as they thought BBP had an ICO. As you said, BBP did not have an ICO. No premine and was free for all since the start. I think that's how you should explain it and not focus on the "masternode" coin aspect as it is not relevant. |
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** WCG PODC UPDATE **
We are still waiting for the DPA to be re-written to be more volunteer computing specific.
Robert,
World Community Grid program manager, Juan Hindo, has posted a DPA update in the forums. Here it is the post as well:
Hi Everyone,
Wanted to give you a quick update and a bit of background on the status of our Data Processing Agreement (DPA), which will allow people who agree to it to access World Community Grid data exports, which were previously available before GDPR came into effect.
As many of you are aware, we've been working with lawyers to come up with an agreement that will serve the wishes of volunteers who use the data exports, while ensuring that we are GDPR-compliant, as defined by IBM. We did receive the agreement drafted by lawyers specifically for World Community Grid. But since IBM is a commercial entity that focuses on selling technology solutions, we felt that the agreement drafted for World Community Grid wasn't sufficiently geared towards volunteers. The World Community Grid team feels strongly that, in the long run, it's better for us to continue to work with the legal team to push for an agreement that we believe will meet volunteers' needs as well as IBM's needs, rather than give volunteers an agreement that is more geared towards commercial engagements and is not as relevant to a philanthropic initiative.
Sincere thanks to everyone for their patience during this process. We will use this thread to provide updates.
Many thanks,
Juan
Do you think you're gonna try to wait for that to be finalised before pushing the mandatory this month? or are you gonna make the changes before that and just insert the token id via spork later? |
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What's the current thoughts on having enough pools? I know when this came up before there was a thought that most people should use the main pool because of letter writing and proposals, if nothing else - and we have purepool for the "lightweight" pool option.
But maybe it's time for another round of discussion. Should we have a third pool (I seem to remember in the history that there was a 3rd at one point), and if so, are there any features that people would particularly want?
I've been working on one in the background as I have time, it's almost ready Adapting MPOS, there are a few items I'm trying to clear up before I open it for public. Nice, Would that be for PoW or PoDC (or both)? |
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It seems that BBP-Central and the main pool are stuck a few days behind on superblock reporting.
Timestamps look recent. Please be more specific. Current block is 51884. Superblock reporting is stuck on 51045. |
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