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Hi RedenBlack13, According to scam accusation topic there is enough for a big suspect behind a mining project. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5065720.0I don't see any witch hunt, but just a message like: Open your eyes. If you believe someone is really able to get these gains is not my fault. other replies: According to my current quality standard, I don't reply more then 1 time to newbie/sockpuppet. Awww, that means you did an exception just for me? You already replied 6 times in the last two pages! That's sweet of you   I think we are onto something |
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So they are processing first payouts = equation = They have a good intention and will not scam!
It's a joke? Please not reply with other ponzi explanations, it's enough.
And here you are, still wandering around on something you consider a ponzi...great way to spend your time! Have you tried finding a hobby? Knitting? Training ferrets? Paragliding maybe? Let's think about it like this: What kind of ponzi would give investors the opportunity to leave the project? Because that's what happened when the team decided to extend the crowdsale, they informed the community and gave everyone the chance to leave if they didn't approve the extension of the crowdsale. Also, what kind of massive idiot you have to be in order to do a Ponzi scheme and use your real name? It's so easy to find information about people on the internet that you truly have to be a ridiculously dumb person to do so and expose all your life and work. This is all I have to say by now, but I'll leave you a link that explains perfectly the CONSOB situation, as they treat utility tokens as SECURITIES and even the head of the SEC thinks that's an issue. Here: https://icolink.com/ico-news/514-ethereum-lose-the-status-of-securities.html |
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That's just a matter of burocracy, not actually a scam blacklist. I can confirm you personally that in Italy burocracy is hell. Thos ICO sent payouts for a long time to their investors regulary, so they already prove their good intentions. No. You can't follow some one for "their good intentions". And this is not "burocracy" matter, check all info: Firstly, I'm surprised that you continue wasting your time in something that you don't follow. Secondly, is everybody suddenly forgetting that cryptocurrencies and ICOs are NOT regulated in most places of the world? It is really an issue that you trust media so much that you don't even take the time to read the info straight from CONSOB's website  Try reading the resolutions made by CONSOB and you wont find NOT EVEN ONCE such thing as 'scam blacklist'. That's something completely made up by Cointelegraph that every other media site copy/pasted like idiots. What better source than consob's website? No way that you can argue that. Third and last, indeed, you can't follow someone just for 'good intentions', but almost 40 payouts isn't called intentions, is called results being delivered, so if you are so skeptical about everything apparently, at least try having some critical thinking. |
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The whitepaper was updated last September, specially the ROI calculations. Here's a link for you: https://togacoin.com/whitepaper.pdf Page 23 for hardware ROI calculations per hardware and page 11 for annual ROI calculation during the crowdsale. OK so you're offering ROIs of 100% over a 1 year period. That's a Ponzi scheme. Oh, really? The calculations are transparent and aren't unrealistic. And it is not that they are guaranteeing the thing, they just present the calculations and how they are done. "It is not possible to determine the exact value of profits during the ICO, due to the fact that the ROI is only an estimate. Our commitment is to maximize the profits and offer to our supporters the best possible benefit." |
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Great info bro! I like this kind of business model as well, and it is very hard for me to explain why it is different from 'normal' cloud mining, but your explanation was perfect. Cheers!
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Meanwhile they made a guinness! First ICO stopped by CONSOB (Italian SEC)!
Well, in fact they just asked to remove the Italian translations for 90 days as a 'precaution', the crowdsale is still ongoing. Well, as you can see, crypto market value is growing day after day (  ) so mining could be even more profitable then a ROI of 851% (  ) . It's not a "precaution" remove Italian translations, because they are Italians and they now it's illegal. By the way, I was wondering...did you actually check the whitepaper? You seem to be repeating what was stated by ICOethics. Which by the way has failed to prove the scam thing in any way and seems to be waving the old whitepaper around instead of using the updated one. That is unfair. The whitepaper was updated last September, specially the ROI calculations. Here's a link for you: https://togacoin.com/whitepaper.pdf Page 23 for hardware ROI calculations per hardware and page 11 for annual ROI calculation during the crowdsale. |
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Meanwhile they made a guinness! First ICO stopped by CONSOB (Italian SEC)!
Well, in fact they just asked to remove the Italian translations for 90 days as a 'precaution', the crowdsale is still ongoing. Well, as you can see, crypto market value is growing day after day ( ) so mining could be even more profitable then a ROI of 851% ( ) . It's not a "precaution" remove Italian translations, because they are Italians and they now it's illegal. OK. You say it's not 'precaution' but CONSOB says otherwise. "- suspended, as a precautionary measure, pursuant to article 99, paragraph 1, letter b) of the TUF, the offer to the Italian public concerning "Token TGA", carried out by Togacoin Ltd, including through the website https://togacoin.com in violation of article 94 of the TUF, for ninety days (resolution n. 20660 of October 31, 2018);" |
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Why are you even posting the first version of the whitepaper instead of the v2? They actually updated the ROI. How come that none of the investors has any doubt about the project credibility nor have complained about it?? Payouts are being sent weekly as the team promised and they refuse to spend any of the money coming from the crowdsale until the softcap is reached. Why the hell would hard working people ruin their reputation with a scam? I mean that should be the most stupid action someone could take while they are showing their real faces and names everywhere. Wow, they must be the dumbest scammers ever, right? Blah |
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The price that was stated at Shitcoinoffering was $0.75 while the price at this phase of the ICO is $0.70 so I am not sure what you mean with the -wrong math-.
To be honest I ain't sure what you mean with "Yeah its because you copy/pasted them from elsewhere" either, if you are talking about the pictures of the team...DYOR for fucks sake, it doesn't take much to find all of the team members on Facebook and Linkedin.
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Meanwhile they made a guinness! First ICO stopped by CONSOB (Italian SEC)!
Well, in fact they just asked to remove the Italian translations for 90 days as a 'precaution', the crowdsale is still ongoing. |
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I really hope that we reach the softcap soon! It would be a shame not seeing this project come to life. I am hopeful tho! |
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As always, the 14th payout was on time and with no issues.
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Nadie por aquí? Bueno, por si a alguien le es útil. He comprado TGA tokens y hasta ahora van 14 pagos ininterrumpidos y sin problemas. |
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I am faithful that the project will make it! |
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We are arrived at the 12th payout, so until this moment this project has proved to be serious and respectful of the interests of its supporters and the investment community. I'm still surprised by the low hype, even if we tried to explain the possible reasons in the previous posts.
I am also surprised that the hype of the project is very low, wish the team can do more by creating more awareness. Honestly I can't blame the team for that. I've talked with some of them and I've seen how they work, and, in my opinion they are very good guys. The situation is just difficult and part of this community maybe is living this moment. We have to work all together! I think we as a community also have to work to make it happen, not just buy tokens. I didn't join the bounty program but I still promote it however I can cause I am totally in love with the project. Let's keep it up! I think the same. Communities have an influence on the success or failure of a project. I hope that keeping alive and kicking this thread could help this project (that I love too). I honestly agree with you. As a community we can corporate with the team and doing all we can, will actually help this project in moving forward. 13 payouts by now! all on perfect timing |
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We are arrived at the 12th payout, so until this moment this project has proved to be serious and respectful of the interests of its supporters and the investment community. I'm still surprised by the low hype, even if we tried to explain the possible reasons in the previous posts.
I am also surprised that the hype of the project is very low, wish the team can do more by creating more awareness. Honestly I can't blame the team for that. I've talked with some of them and I've seen how they work, and, in my opinion they are very good guys. The situation is just difficult and part of this community maybe is living this moment. We have to work all together! I think we as a community also have to work to make it happen, not just buy tokens. I didn't join the bounty program but I still promote it however I can cause I am totally in love with the project. Let's keep it up! |
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We are arrived at the 12th payout, so until this moment this project has proved to be serious and respectful of the interests of its supporters and the investment community. I'm still surprised by the low hype, even if we tried to explain the possible reasons in the previous posts.
I am also surprised that the hype of the project is very low, wish the team can do more by creating more awareness. Let's hope that the hype will go up! |
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The next payout for Togacoin is on the 4th of September, make sure you have done the necessary confirmation on your ERC20 address to receive payment. Keep up the good work!
Tomorrow! My wallet is feeling it already |
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