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Thank you, I found the second chance thread while scrolling through meta section but thanks anyways  I will really appreciate if admins and mods give me a second chance to correct my mistake. According to the rules, you can not post outside your appeal thread. Here is my suggestion, while you wait for the mods and admins to maybe give you a second chance, if the information you want to share is very critical, you can ask one of the reputable members to update the thread for you.
I just want to bump that scam accusation thread where the primedice staff ignored my case until it came to light on this forum. They didn't reply to my emails for months to years. I'd really appreciate if members bump up this thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2526260.0 (It's still unresolved) |
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Hello Forum, Can Mods please review my case again to unban me? Please, I will accept any punishment for my mistake, and I will not repeat the mistake of hiring someone to write for you again. I really miss the forum where I could spend time opening my lending service again and getting to know how old friends are doing. Oddly, the forum hasn't changed much.
Hello "ThePharmacist" and "LoyceV".
I am here regarding the SCAM accusation I posted about Primedice. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2526260.0Recently, I tried to log into my account (After years), but it's giving me an error 'Invalid credentials' seems they got rid of my account User: Wyane I wagered over 100BTC and it seems they got rid of my account, which I think happened because of our Clash on the scam accusation thread where they didn't apologize for the mistake that happened from their side, nor did they compensate for my loss I was contacted by Edward from Primedice, who was paying me 0.01 instead of 0.29 - 0.3 BTC (I don't remember the exact amount) to remove the Scam accusation against them. I don't think this is resolved yet. They just avoid the situation which is out of their control.
They can say sorry that this happened in public and compensate for it. But instead, they mislead & ignore.
That is the tactic of most large businesses that are dealing with a large number of common folks. They'll avoid and avoid till the last moment to try and get away with whatever they have screwed up. Out of sight, out of mind. I think that's exactly what's going to happen to this situation as well. Most probably, this issue will be ignored to the point where no one would care anymore. (except OP maybe). Can I post in my scam accusation or I can't post outside meta board "Is there any leniency regarding the rules"
When i saw the scam accusation thread [Autobet bug after pd new version release] I can't see the Images, what happened? Input from reputable member will be appreciated |
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Alt_robo, I just read your previous thread (you didn't really need to open a new one), and you actually got a few answers there from global mod (he use his alt account hilariousetc). Outsourcing posts now?  Another one for the bingo card. Blows my mind how lazy people can get here. All you have to do to earn a fairly decent amount of money here is make some posts but apparently even that is too difficult for a lot of people. Regardless, it doesn't matter who did the plagiarism or who you're trying to blame it on as the matter of the fact is that account was caught copying content. You should have taken better care of the account and certainly not trusted some random person to make posts for you but you've paid the ultimate penalty for that. If we were going to give you a pass because you claim someone else made those posts for you then everybody would use that excuse but it's certainly not one we're going to accept.I see you claim that plagiarized posts have come from another user who is writing posts for you, but it will hardly be a good excuse that mod/admin gives you new chance. We know that one user who gets perma-ban is claimed that he bought his account after plagiarism has been committed, and admin intervened and remove the ban. In your case, it was really thoughtless that someone else wrote you posts without you checking them out before posting. I have personally received several offers from some forum users to write posts for me in exchange for compensation, but it never occurred to me to accept something like that. I totally understand what you mean and I'm glad that you didn't accept their offer, I just wish I had that sense at the time. Also, Please have a look at this. **This was made after hilarious's reply .
If you think that a ban should be ended, make your case in a new topic from a "good for the forum as a whole" perspective.
Also, As I said before I never intended to spam and admitted that it was solely mistaken on my side but it's up to the forum's admin to decide if this mistake is forgivable or not. And all I'm asking for is a reply from admin or global moderator |
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Is it at least possible to get a reply from global mod or admin regarding ban appeal.
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I feel sorry for you, however, you do realise that, when banned, you're only allowed to make 1 thread discussing your ban. As soon as you post outside this 1 thread (or make a second thread), you're evading your ban.
Offcourse, this is a grey area, since both threads are created for the sole purpose of appealing your ban... However, strictly speaking, at this moment you're breaking the rules...
Don't be sorry it's not your fault but thank you for your concern, Posting outside meta is considered ban evasion. Wouldn't it be better to close this thread and bump your original appeal?
If you think that a ban should be ended, make your case in a new topic from a "good for the forum as a whole" perspective.
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I'd just like to say to any mods who might read this that Roboabhishek has earned my respect as a good member of the forum, and I believe I've done deals with him in the past that went smoothly (not that that counts for much as far as a ban appeal goes). When he got banned I was actually shocked and a bit crestfallen when I read about it.
There are tons of ban appeal threads in Meta right now, and most of them are being written by members who've done nothing for the forum or for anyone but themselves in the form of bounty hunting. Roboabhishek is actually a decent member, and in my humble opinion I think he ought to be given a second chance, even if it means he wouldn't be allowed to wear a signature for however long.
It might do the forum some good to have him back, and I think he's probably learned his lesson by now and won't repeat the behavior that got him banned in the first place.
Thank you, Pharma for the effort you've put for me. I'm sure if I get unbanned then behaviour such as this will not be repeated from my side I've said that before and I'm saying it again. As I've said in past even if it means to lose my signature forever or temporary depending on the judgement of higher authorities of the forum in order to come back to the community. |
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Since my account got banned I was looking through different posts on the forum in Lending section, Marketplace, and Meta but unable to post & making trades. I'm clear that I made a massive mistake on my side due to which my account got banned, and I do regret it, Ban of my account had an enormous toll on my business. In terms of unable to profit from lending service (which was going very well tbh) & off forum deals which were Bitcointalk trust based. -I've held many On & Off forum deals & never had any ill intent to scam anyone. -Got rid of scammers who defaulted on the loans which were of no collateral thus preventing them from pulling a big scam on someone else. As I've previously said if it's possible I would like to be back on the forum. And I'll accept whatever penalty is imposed on me since the act I committed was utterly unethical. If I remain banned and insured that the ban won't be lifted, Then I'll leave and will not look back. But if I get unbanned, then I can ensure that mistake such as this will never be committed from my side.
[ EDIT] Old ban appeal Reference thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5079217 |
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Well, Looking at their status and behavior i think that's actually true, Now i really feel bad for you. Giving your account to someone who pulled serial scams and bans evasions. In this community, retards like him are the one who is a disgrace to the forum i really wish they give you second chance to be back on the forum.  His command on english is like the other 3 accounts for sure  That fact these people will sweet talk in the start and try to be your friends and will plan to rip you from the very beginning as well. If you look at my Lending thread; https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2220514.0You will see Bitsat and Bitcoinmarshall both asked for a loan around same time. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2220514.msg26029038#msg26029038 (BitcoinMarhsal) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2220514.msg27214057#msg27214057 (Bitsat) That's another strange relation between those two, isn't it? Edit: hua_hui was already account farmer, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3195586.msg33132226#msg33132226
Hilarious and Theymos…I respect you guys and I fully understand where you’re coming from. However, you’ve both stated you’d be willing to let a member back who you feel would contribute positively moving forward (likely with stipulations). Besides my lapse in common sense one day..I’ve done nothing but try and contribute positively here. Plenty of it being pre-signature days too. So..put me to the test!! Fuck my signature, hell ban me from it for good. Give me a chance and I will still be here, still contributing, whether now or a year from now. Easy promise I can make/keep.
Contact theymos and see if he can implement a specific signature ban for you instead and reinstate your account. This is something he said he might implement a while ago (and I'm sure he could do individual ones now in certain cases). A signature ban would probably be more appropriate in certain situations and especially to those who are going to contribute in other ways whilst removing the possibility of earning here (which is probably a significant punishment in itself). Maybe signatures of spammers/plagiarisers should be removed indefinitely or removed until they've achieved x amount of merit then they're reinstated. Most users probably won't bother and just abandon the account but for those who aren't here just to earn and are willing to contribute maybe that would be a sufficient penance for their 'crime'. I don't care about the signature as much as I care about my alias. If it's possible, then I'll gladly accept it and obviously mistake as this one will never occur from my side ever again. |
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So LoyceV is possibly certainly your alt? Am I doing this correctly? No, try again  Helpful post but got no smerit. |
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I don't think some users should be given a free pass just because they did something stupid or came up with an inventive excuse.
After looking at other thread for banned accounts today I don't question why you made that argument but if theymos/cyrus want then I can provide a solid proof such as medical reports to support the facts I've presented. But i think it'll be seen as another excuse. The punishments are there and strict so people know not to do this behaviour.
As I said before I didn't mean to steal someone else's idea, work or thought and nor I did that. I just made a massive mistake of accepting their offer that I shouldn't have. I understand I should have considered my forum's account position and consequences if they fail to deliver what they've promised because of their grudge or greed. And if punishment by the permanent ban is good for the welfare of the forum, then I'll have to move on keeping this experience in mind. |
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Whatever, what you did is not even that bad. People here act like they are gods. In reality I don't think anyone gives a shit really, perhaps a few but most of them just like to bash people for any stupid shit.
Some hold grudge against the other person they're opposing or trying to bash them at their worst situation (mostly happens), Others are those who have seen more than enough scammers on the forum and will bash anyone that seems to fit scammer category as per their past exp. And this is the post of the kind you're talking about, showing as if knows everything in detail also telling about the values. This is a interesting case for me ...
By looking at your post history But on the other hand, offering to help random group pump knowing well aware it will ruin the experience of a new trader " https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1746289.msg18518784#msg18518784" - Selling account " https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1868888.msg18576497#msg18576497" - 2nd Thread " https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1868863.msg18576368#msg18576368" - 3rd Thread " https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1992807.msg19843605#msg19843605" Hello. Want to sell this account due to some personal financial problems. Price estimate- https://www.bctalkaccountpricer.info/?token=kaapcvavYou can check the account. UID is 952148 Ni negative feedbacks. Already joined in Waves campaign, you can join in another later. Bid start- 0.01 Comments invited. Thanks.
Breaking rules of selling accounts, Multiple threads for a single service and trying to bash someone else without considering his past actions. Edit: Sorry for being a little off topic from the thread, Did some random digging on him and no surprise he was the kind that I thought him to be, People like him are the ones that pisses me off the most. I'm in no position to open accusation against him looking at my position atm so I'll leave it as it is. I think your intelligence is more questionable here, as you have done a very stupid thing by starting this thread and self admitting that you are a plagiarist  Jeez, this does reveal a lot about you and your actions in the future if you get into a situation like i'm atm. And so this was my last response to Smart. |
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Damn, glad to see a legendary account is banned again, hopefully more legendary account coming for banned.
Obviously you didn't know Roboabhishek, and I'm not just talking about getting his rank wrong. Look at his feedback and you'll see he was a pretty trustworthy and stand-up guy--and a person who made a big mistake by letting someone else use his account and thereby letting the idiot who controlled it to get Robo banned for plagiarism. What I'm trying to get across is that Robo isn't the typical bounty spammer that gets caught copy/pasting. Nevertheless, I'm not arguing that an exception that should be made for him, nor do I think he'll get a pass on this one. Rules are rules and the lesson to be learned here is to be very careful with your account because shit like this can happen. It's unfortunate. Robo's the kind of member who'll be missed, whereas the forum is better off without the usual plagiarists who get caught. Thank you Pharma, That means a lot What I'm trying to get across is that Robo isn't the typical bounty spammer that gets caught copy/pasting. Nevertheless, I'm not arguing that an exception that should be made for him, nor do I think he'll get a pass on this one. The only exception I've seen, was made by Cyrus (See [Solved]). OP could try your luck there too. I tried contacting Cyrus through PM today and a few days ago still no response, Maybe they are busy with other stuff like recovering hacked accounts. |
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I don't really see him complaining, it's more like stating facts. I must say it's kinda refreshing to see someone actually admit to plagiarism, instead of denying it until some quoted evidence is provided.
As for the ban: it's your own responsibility to make sure your posts don't break the rules. Even legit hacked accounts aren't getting recovered, and for plagiarism I've only seen 1 exception made for as long as I've been on this forum.
That only leaves your loan business: do you have any outstanding loans to deal with?
Since your account has light-green trust, I'll leave a neutral feedback to show that it's banned.
Regarding loan business: I think there are a few outstanding loans but those accounts are either abandoned or have gotten -ve trust so yeah there's no reason to expect them back. This user Bitcoinmarhall was the only to whom I've given this loan duration to pay back his loan because of his health and in life issues with money (at least that's what he told me). To bounty/campaign managers: Through some contacts, I came to know that a few bounty managers had given this user work of Data entry of stakes in past so it's better to check the spreadsheets for any errors that could get you in trouble shortly. I was also informed that this user has a considerable number of alts in the forum those were used for asking loans after reaching a certain rank in the conference and then defaulting on them.
Moral of the story: Avoid those who are providing you with a service or asking for the loan by stating the reason (They've ill grandparents, need money for kids, etc.) Doesn't even matter for how long you know them on the forum, Just a matter of time before they leave you in the dust for their financial benefit. |
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Robo, you and I have done deals together, and I've always respected you. That absolutely sucks that you got banned--and I'm sure they're not going to make an exception for you as far as un-banning your account, though keep your fingers crossed about that. You've never been the shitposting type of member who's usually the one asking to get their account back and I'm sorry to see it's come to this for you.
It was a bad decision on your part to do what you did, though, even if it wasn't you personally who did the plagiarizing. Anyway, if you're gone for good I'll miss doing the occasional deal with you. Peace out, bro.
The deals I've done with you were pleasant and I've always respected you as well including a few other members but it sucks to see that there's no coming back from consequences of the mistake I've committed. Also, I do understand the complexity of the situation and unbanning me can lead to an immense fuss which I doubt they'll do. And thank you for the support you've shown The only thing this is an example of is how lazy and greedy people are. It's getting ridiculous. You would think if this forum is their livelihood or the best opportunity they can get to earn a decent living then they wouldn't screw it up and would be on their best behaviour, but no. It's like getting a job you know you're lucky to get or have been giving a chance with, and it's a great job for the pay, and yet instead of doing the work, you slack off, turn up to work late, and then try passing off the work to someone else because you're too lazy to do it, and then when they do a shoddy job you ultimately pay the price, but it's still their fault for passing off the work to someone else so they're the only person to blame here regardless of who did they plagiarising. The person who bares the signature has been hired to do the job, not somebody else, and it's that persons responsibility to make sure they do what they're asked. If they sub contract the work and they screw up then the fuck up is still on them not the person they hired (or passed the work off to, which they shouldn't have even done in the first place).
Everyone makes a mistake at some point in their life and pay a massive price for it. I'll consider this mine for lacking the ability to judge the motive of someone and not giving it a 2nd thought before accepting their offer. |
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Copy pasting with the consent of the person who made the final product all by himself, but that's not the case here. I was unaware of that person's motive before it was too late. This is irrelevant. You admitted copying something which was already plagiarism. What do you mean by that? If what you're saying is true then people who pay for copywriting are plagiarising when they post it on their website. Companies like Coca-Cola, Mountain Dew plagiarizing when they use their logo that someone else created? Do you think whoever posted in this thread is wrong including moderator and you are right?
I am saying that I believe I deserve a second chance, Yes, I copied and pasted, but is this community so vindictive that I can’t even redeem myself? Plus, I am not saying the entire community is wrong, I know I should have known better, but your statements about me plagiarizing are plain wrong. OK. It was probably bad idea to post here. Lets try it this way:"I don't see any reason why you should be banned from this forum, you actually did nothing wrong. Coca-Cola also did it. I don't understand why you are banned, moderator is wrong. You said you didn't know copied post(s?) was plagiarism. It is fine to copy other peoples words if you are busy with other things and it is fine to enter discussion with other people's words if you don't have time for discussion and to express your own opinion. When busy with other things, it is recommended to copy/paste here." Cmon dude what's wrong with you? I give up you win. |
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Copy pasting with the consent of the person who made the final product all by himself, but that's not the case here. I was unaware of that person's motive before it was too late. This is irrelevant. You admitted copying something which was already plagiarism. What do you mean by that? If what you're saying is true then people who pay for copywriting are plagiarising when they post it on their website. Companies like Coca-Cola, Mountain Dew plagiarizing when they use their logo that someone else created? Do you think whoever posted in this thread is wrong including moderator and you are right?
I am saying that I believe I deserve a second chance, Yes, I copied and pasted, but is this community so vindictive that I can’t even redeem myself? Plus, I am not saying the entire community is wrong, I know I should have known better, but your statements about me plagiarizing are plain wrong. |
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I think your intelligence is more questionable here, as you have done a very stupid thing by starting this thread and self admitting that you are a plagiarist Jeez, this does reveal a lot about you and your actions in the future if you get into a situation like i'm atm. And so this was my last response to Smart. |
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