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December 03, 2018, 09:34:26 AM
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Forget it,  you might get more frustrated when you want to set things up correctly here as been observe that admin and staff are neutral when it comes to peer to peer transactions and this is not their concern. It is your due diligence that you had been doing and trusting people with your account and the loan you provided with that user.

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December 03, 2018, 10:02:41 AM
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So you want me to listen to people like Altrust and accept whatever they're saying? Your words seem to me that way.
Do you think whoever posted in this thread is wrong including moderator and you are right?
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Copy pasting with the consent of the person who made the final product all by himself, but that's not the case here. I was unaware of that person's motive before it was too late.
This is irrelevant. You admitted copying something which was already plagiarism.
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It could be easier for you to move on from the situation like this one sorry but I can't.
I didn't say it will be easy to move on. You have to accept it.


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December 03, 2018, 10:05:21 AM
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Recently my account "Roboabhishek" got banned, and I am sure it was due to copy paste.
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The user BitcoinMarshall was providing me posts for the loan I provided him.
BitcoinMarshall is banned already, so I don't think your loan will be paid back.

Self admitted plagiarist. Why are you complaining exactly?
I don't really see him complaining, it's more like stating facts. I must say it's kinda refreshing to see someone actually admit to plagiarism, instead of denying it until some quoted evidence is provided.
As for the ban: it's your own responsibility to make sure your posts don't break the rules. Even legit hacked accounts aren't getting recovered, and for plagiarism I've only seen 1 exception made for as long as I've been on this forum.
That only leaves your loan business: do you have any outstanding loans to deal with?

Since your account has light-green trust, I'll leave a neutral feedback to show that it's banned.

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December 03, 2018, 11:14:10 AM
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Copy pasting with the consent of the person who made the final product all by himself, but that's not the case here. I was unaware of that person's motive before it was too late.

This is irrelevant. You admitted copying something which was already plagiarism.

What do you mean by that?
If what you're saying is true then people who pay for copywriting are plagiarising when they post it on their website. Companies like Coca-Cola, Mountain Dew plagiarizing when they use their logo that someone else created?

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Do you think whoever posted in this thread is wrong including moderator and you are right?

I am saying that I believe I deserve a second chance, Yes, I copied and pasted, but is this community so vindictive that I can’t even redeem myself?
Plus, I am not saying the entire community is wrong, I know I should have known better, but your statements about me plagiarizing are plain wrong.
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December 03, 2018, 11:34:38 AM
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I am saying that I believe I deserve a second chance
Read this post by theymos. It doesn't matter what you or anyone else believes, that topic is filled with endorsements from green-trusted users, and he's still banned.

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December 03, 2018, 12:06:12 PM
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Copy pasting with the consent of the person who made the final product all by himself, but that's not the case here. I was unaware of that person's motive before it was too late.

This is irrelevant. You admitted copying something which was already plagiarism.

What do you mean by that?
If what you're saying is true then people who pay for copywriting are plagiarising when they post it on their website. Companies like Coca-Cola, Mountain Dew plagiarizing when they use their logo that someone else created?

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Do you think whoever posted in this thread is wrong including moderator and you are right?

I am saying that I believe I deserve a second chance, Yes, I copied and pasted, but is this community so vindictive that I can’t even redeem myself?
Plus, I am not saying the entire community is wrong, I know I should have known better, but your statements about me plagiarizing are plain wrong.
OK. It was probably bad idea to post here. Lets try it this way:

"I don't see any reason why you should be banned from this forum, you actually did nothing wrong. Coca-Cola also did it. I don't understand why you are banned, moderator is wrong. You said you didn't know copied post(s?) was plagiarism. It is fine to copy other peoples words if you are busy with other things and it is fine to enter discussion with other people's words if you don't have time for discussion and to express your own opinion. When busy with other things, it is recommended to copy/paste here."  Roll Eyes

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December 03, 2018, 12:12:56 PM
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Copy pasting with the consent of the person who made the final product all by himself, but that's not the case here. I was unaware of that person's motive before it was too late.

This is irrelevant. You admitted copying something which was already plagiarism.

What do you mean by that?
If what you're saying is true then people who pay for copywriting are plagiarising when they post it on their website. Companies like Coca-Cola, Mountain Dew plagiarizing when they use their logo that someone else created?

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Do you think whoever posted in this thread is wrong including moderator and you are right?

I am saying that I believe I deserve a second chance, Yes, I copied and pasted, but is this community so vindictive that I can’t even redeem myself?
Plus, I am not saying the entire community is wrong, I know I should have known better, but your statements about me plagiarizing are plain wrong.
OK. It was probably bad idea to post here. Lets try it this way:

"I don't see any reason why you should be banned from this forum, you actually did nothing wrong. Coca-Cola also did it. I don't understand why you are banned, moderator is wrong. You said you didn't know copied post(s?) was plagiarism. It is fine to copy other peoples words if you are busy with other things and it is fine to enter discussion with other people's words if you don't have time for discussion and to express your own opinion. When busy with other things, it is recommended to copy/paste here."  Roll Eyes

Cmon dude what's wrong with you? I give up you win.
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December 03, 2018, 12:24:30 PM
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Outsourcing posts now?  Roll Eyes Another one for the bingo card. Blows my mind how lazy people can get here. All you have to do to earn a fairly decent amount of money here is make some posts but apparently even that is too difficult for a lot of people. Regardless, it doesn't matter who did the plagiarism or who you're trying to blame it on as the matter of the fact is that account was caught copying content. You should have taken better care of the account and certainly not trusted some random person to make posts for you but you've paid the ultimate penalty for that. If we were going to give you a pass because you claim someone else made those posts for you then everybody would use that excuse but it's certainly not one we're going to accept.

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December 03, 2018, 01:28:36 PM
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Robo, you and I have done deals together, and I've always respected you.  That absolutely sucks that you got banned--and I'm sure they're not going to make an exception for you as far as un-banning your account, though keep your fingers crossed about that.  You've never been the shitposting type of member who's usually the one asking to get their account back and I'm sorry to see it's come to this for you.

It was a bad decision on your part to do what you did, though, even if it wasn't you personally who did the plagiarizing.  Anyway, if you're gone for good I'll miss doing the occasional deal with you.  Peace out, bro.

Outsourcing posts now?  Roll Eyes Another one for the bingo card.
Yeah I know, right?  I've seen other members here do this, including aTriz if I'm not mistaken.  This is another example of why the "shitposting for pennies" statement that I hear a lot on the forum just isn't true.  These aren't small amounts of money we're talking about, especially if you live in a country where 0.001BTC (that's just a random amount) has greater purchasing power than a place like the US, Canada, or the UK.  

For some people it's worth it to outsource the posting for whatever reason, but this case with Robo definitely underscores how risky it can be.

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December 03, 2018, 02:46:36 PM
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Just wondering how somebody can loan /shitpost  on the account.
 Look like they all need to first learn about the importance of the account before learning about bitcoin/crypto related stuff.

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December 03, 2018, 02:58:16 PM
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Outsourcing posts now?  Roll Eyes Another one for the bingo card.
Yeah I know, right?  I've seen other members here do this, including aTriz if I'm not mistaken.  This is another example of why the "shitposting for pennies" statement that I hear a lot on the forum just isn't true.  These aren't small amounts of money we're talking about, especially if you live in a country where 0.001BTC (that's just a random amount) has greater purchasing power than a place like the US, Canada, or the UK.  

For some people it's worth it to outsource the posting for whatever reason, but this case with Robo definitely underscores how risky it can be.


The only thing this is an example of is how lazy and greedy people are. It's getting ridiculous. You would think if this forum is their livelihood or the best opportunity they can get to earn a decent living then they wouldn't screw it up and would be on their best behaviour, but no. It's like getting a job you know you're lucky to get or have been giving a chance with, and it's a great job for the pay, and yet instead of doing the work, you slack off, turn up to work late, and then try passing off the work to someone else because you're too lazy to do it, and then when they do a shoddy job you ultimately pay the price, but it's still their fault for passing off the work to someone else so they're the only person to blame here regardless of who did they plagiarising. The person who bares the signature has been hired to do the job, not somebody else, and it's that persons responsibility to make sure they do what they're asked. If they sub contract the work and they screw up then the fuck up is still on them not the person they hired (or passed the work off to, which they shouldn't have even done in the first place).

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December 03, 2018, 07:53:43 PM
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There is absolutely nothing that can be done concerning the ban account as long as it a permanent ban and reason being plagiarism/copy and pest, rules are made for our consumptions and knowing the law but yet chose to break it. Self admitting is not an excuse just take it as your faith and move on.
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December 04, 2018, 07:48:58 AM
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Robo, you and I have done deals together, and I've always respected you.  That absolutely sucks that you got banned--and I'm sure they're not going to make an exception for you as far as un-banning your account, though keep your fingers crossed about that.  You've never been the shitposting type of member who's usually the one asking to get their account back and I'm sorry to see it's come to this for you.

It was a bad decision on your part to do what you did, though, even if it wasn't you personally who did the plagiarizing.  Anyway, if you're gone for good I'll miss doing the occasional deal with you.  Peace out, bro.


The deals I've done with you were pleasant and I've always respected you as well including a few other members but it sucks to see that there's no coming back from consequences of the mistake I've committed.

Also, I do understand the complexity of the situation and unbanning me can lead to an immense fuss which I doubt they'll do. And thank you for the support you've shown  Smiley

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The only thing this is an example of is how lazy and greedy people are. It's getting ridiculous. You would think if this forum is their livelihood or the best opportunity they can get to earn a decent living then they wouldn't screw it up and would be on their best behaviour, but no. It's like getting a job you know you're lucky to get or have been giving a chance with, and it's a great job for the pay, and yet instead of doing the work, you slack off, turn up to work late, and then try passing off the work to someone else because you're too lazy to do it, and then when they do a shoddy job you ultimately pay the price, but it's still their fault for passing off the work to someone else so they're the only person to blame here regardless of who did they plagiarising. The person who bares the signature has been hired to do the job, not somebody else, and it's that persons responsibility to make sure they do what they're asked. If they sub contract the work and they screw up then the fuck up is still on them not the person they hired (or passed the work off to, which they shouldn't have even done in the first place).

Everyone makes a mistake at some point in their life and pay a massive price for it.
I'll consider this mine for lacking the ability to judge the motive of someone and not giving it a 2nd thought before accepting their offer.
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December 05, 2018, 07:28:09 AM
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Damn, glad to see a legendary account is banned again, hopefully more legendary account coming for banned.
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Damn, glad to see a legendary account is banned again, hopefully more legendary account coming for banned.
His account still hero member. Why are you happy to see some high ranked user got banned?  Because your account can't level up due to merit?
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I don't really see him complaining, it's more like stating facts. I must say it's kinda refreshing to see someone actually admit to plagiarism, instead of denying it until some quoted evidence is provided.
As for the ban: it's your own responsibility to make sure your posts don't break the rules. Even legit hacked accounts aren't getting recovered, and for plagiarism I've only seen 1 exception made for as long as I've been on this forum.
That only leaves your loan business: do you have any outstanding loans to deal with?

Since your account has light-green trust, I'll leave a neutral feedback to show that it's banned.


Regarding loan business: I think there are a few outstanding loans but those accounts are either abandoned or have gotten -ve trust so yeah there's no reason to expect them back.
This user Bitcoinmarhall was the only to whom I've given this loan duration to pay back his loan because of his health and in life issues with money (at least that's what he told me).

To bounty/campaign managers: Through some contacts, I came to know that a few bounty managers had given this user work of Data entry of stakes in past so it's better to check the spreadsheets for any errors that could get you in trouble shortly.

I was also informed that this user has a considerable number of alts in the forum those were used for asking loans after reaching a certain rank in the conference and then defaulting on them.


Moral of the story: Avoid those who are providing you with a service or asking for the loan by stating the reason (They've ill grandparents, need money for kids, etc.)
Doesn't even matter for how long you know them on the forum,  Just a matter of time before they leave you in the dust for their financial benefit.

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I don't really see him complaining, it's more like stating facts. I must say it's kinda refreshing to see someone actually admit to plagiarism, instead of denying it until some quoted evidence is provided.
As for the ban: it's your own responsibility to make sure your posts don't break the rules. Even legit hacked accounts aren't getting recovered, and for plagiarism I've only seen 1 exception made for as long as I've been on this forum.
That only leaves your loan business: do you have any outstanding loans to deal with?

Since your account has light-green trust, I'll leave a neutral feedback to show that it's banned.


Regarding loan business: I think there are a few outstanding loans but those accounts are either abandoned or have gotten -ve trust so yeah there's no reason to expect them back.
This user Bitcoinmarhall was the only to whom I've given this loan duration to pay back his loan because of his health and in life issues with money (at least that's what he told me).

To bounty/campaign managers: Through some contacts, I came to know that a few bounty managers had given this user work of Data entry of stakes in past so it's better to check the spreadsheets for any errors that could get you in trouble shortly.

I was also informed that this user has a considerable number of alts in the forum those were used for asking loans after reaching a certain rank in the conference and then defaulting on them.


Moral of the story: Avoid those who are providing you with a service or asking for the loan by stating the reason (They've ill grandparents, need money for kids, etc.)
Doesn't even matter for how loan you know them on the forum,  Just a matter of time before they leave you in the dust for their financial benefit.



Robo, it sucks to see that you're banned from the forum a few deals i had with you were pleasant and you ran your lending thread in a professional manner,
You were way too kind and naive to trust him or her tbh but can't blame you, Kindness got the most out of you this time.

There was a mistake on your side as well of not reviewing the posts before posting or even better not accepting them in the first place but i hope admin unbans you this time because of the services you provided to the forum did a great job to some people who needed a quick no collateral loan quickly and was very reliable with what you said.
I don't know if it's ok to communicate through forum messages since they've banned you so i will pay close attention to this thread of yours.

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December 09, 2018, 08:43:39 PM
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Damn, glad to see a legendary account is banned again, hopefully more legendary account coming for banned.
Obviously you didn't know Roboabhishek, and I'm not just talking about getting his rank wrong.  Look at his feedback and you'll see he was a pretty trustworthy and stand-up guy--and a person who made a big mistake by letting someone else use his account and thereby letting the idiot who controlled it to get Robo banned for plagiarism. 

What I'm trying to get across is that Robo isn't the typical bounty spammer that gets caught copy/pasting.  Nevertheless, I'm not arguing that an exception that should be made for him, nor do I think he'll get a pass on this one.  Rules are rules and the lesson to be learned here is to be very careful with your account because shit like this can happen.  It's unfortunate.  Robo's the kind of member who'll be missed, whereas the forum is better off without the usual plagiarists who get caught.

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What I'm trying to get across is that Robo isn't the typical bounty spammer that gets caught copy/pasting.  Nevertheless, I'm not arguing that an exception that should be made for him, nor do I think he'll get a pass on this one.
The only exception I've seen, was made by Cyrus (See [Solved]). OP could try his luck there too.

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Damn, glad to see a legendary account is banned again, hopefully more legendary account coming for banned.
Obviously you didn't know Roboabhishek, and I'm not just talking about getting his rank wrong.  Look at his feedback and you'll see he was a pretty trustworthy and stand-up guy--and a person who made a big mistake by letting someone else use his account and thereby letting the idiot who controlled it to get Robo banned for plagiarism. 

What I'm trying to get across is that Robo isn't the typical bounty spammer that gets caught copy/pasting.  Nevertheless, I'm not arguing that an exception that should be made for him, nor do I think he'll get a pass on this one.  Rules are rules and the lesson to be learned here is to be very careful with your account because shit like this can happen.  It's unfortunate.  Robo's the kind of member who'll be missed, whereas the forum is better off without the usual plagiarists who get caught.

Thank you Pharma, That means a lot  Smiley

What I'm trying to get across is that Robo isn't the typical bounty spammer that gets caught copy/pasting.  Nevertheless, I'm not arguing that an exception that should be made for him, nor do I think he'll get a pass on this one.
The only exception I've seen, was made by Cyrus (See [Solved]). OP could try your luck there too.

I tried contacting Cyrus through PM today and a few days ago still no response, Maybe they are busy with other stuff like recovering hacked accounts.
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