is there any update for this? any body have any good news for refund?
If it hasn't been resolved by now, it may never be. And recovery may be impossible unless criminal charges are leveled against him. We had that chance a couple of years ago, but too few acted to do it. Of course this is what he wanted for it to go away with time. He's sitting on the Bitcoin worth millions now and we've got nothing but shit out of it. When the case is over he'll no doubt sell the Bitcoin and try to make a comeback. His obvious opposition to me during that time and doxxing helped him it seems put fear in others. I'm still here. And he's got 0 grounds for any lawsuit. But at any rate I've got the FBI report in so if he resurfaces with the money he's done. |
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Like any case of this kind, it may be a few years, and doubtful we'll ever get recovery. He's obviously hidden his funds. He's pulled a Donald Trump on us, but worse because he screwed himself in the process. |
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I wonder what the hell the Jewish Bulgarian Freemason Joshua Zipkin has been up to of late. Chances are he's not on a good track, paraphrasing Sonny Vleisides.
Damn been a while. Saw the notification come up. His reputation is ruined, but no doubt he's finding ways to scam again. He does alot of SEO shit so no doubt he's using twitter or facebook to improve his rankings so he can get a job. But other things not so easy to hide. And he's got a history there of stiffing landlords. (Sound familiar?). Public records shows he was taken to court, lost and never paid up. |
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Been away from the forums for a while...but yea this is probably right. There seemed to be some interest in taking him down and pressing charges from other agencies. But don't know where that went. He may still be out of the country. Hopefully he is at the very least miserable in some hole somewhere drinking himself sick (he was doing that even back when all this was going on). Anyone have idea on filling to these court? Will this helps?
Unlikely. [Not a lawyer, not your lawyer etc...] The court is essentially concluding that AMT is un-sueable in its current form, and requires compliance by Josh to do anything about it. He will just keep dragging things out until the other party gets bored of paying for consul. |
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conviction_rateJapan has a conviction rate that exceeds 99% (Note that it includes guilty plea cases.[1]), which has been attributed to low prosecutorial budgets impelling understaffed prosecutors to present judges with only the most obviously guilty defendants.Karpeles is toast. Reading article it's insane to think of keeping "MtGox said 750,000 customer bitcoins and another 100,000 belonging to the exchange were stolen due to a software security flaw." in a hot wallet. I cannot imagine 850,000 BTC in a hot wallet. Just even if they talked about security I cannot imagine someone suggesting hey ... lets move most of this to cold wallet and only keep so much online. Too bad Zipkin didn't rip off any Japanese clients. |
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When a wife a client doubts her husband because he made the wrong choice to purchase a miner, (from any company by all means), or when the wife of an owner divorces him right after having their newborn for fear of her child's life and her own due to the types of threats and gestures which have been made.
And trust josh, he would know threats.  Yep, Josh said that I deserve to die. His words even made the Bitcoin-themed rags. Curious as to who that was directed to? Basically he admitted there was a threat to someone. A client? Would not be the first time Joshua Zipkin has issued veiled threats to a client. I of course speak from personal experience as does Gleb. |
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Rik, Breaking necks hands and threats are his specialty  I am wandering how a pig like Zipkin poserkoto can brake something at all  he have to pay for it for sure but here the "boys" who do it do it only in preorder and once in his miserable life he will have to pay 100% in advance and wait without refund option Now seriously there were some threats about his family here even his address in Bulgaria was posted. I asked folks absolutely seriously not to act like him and became same scumbags and cowards Forum history is here and I will not loose my time to dig my posts regarding this. His wife and relatives have nothing to do with his shits and can not be held responsible for Zipkin actions. I am positive that everybody me, you and Zipkin of course will get what we deserve someday. The life, good or whatever force is out there will take care and everyone of us will pay for the shits we made in one way or another. Or will be rewarded in one way or another for the good things we have done. That is how it works and it is not a threat. Life will take care it is just a matter of time. But for sure if I meet Zipkin in person I will spit in his face and will take all the risk and consequences of what such fat ass can do to me From what I understand he is in Bulgaria (despite what he says otherwise) check through my posts, I posted the address there at one point as a good turn for him doing the same to me  you can have a chat with him. Have a chat with him. See whats really going on You are in Bulgaria are you not? |
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It's good to know that he purposely sent me a miner that wasn't complete even though I paid for it. That should help me win a judgement against him. I have no problem taking a trip to PA.
No one plotted to monitor AMT. Josh was in communication with people of his own free will. Hell he engaged me in conversation. However, when he didn't make good on his end of the purchases those who he was talking too refused to be silent about what he said to them, and surprise some of it was pretty inflammatory.
You don't get to take people's money, deliver faulty or unfinished products, and then flee the country while maintaining the moral high ground. "We did our best", though I'm not sure you were really more than a sole proprietorship, isn't good enough. If a lawsuit with IMET would have paid you enough to refund all your customers then why the hell wouldn't you do that? I hope for the sake of potential customers and your potential worker that you never start up a business again. You obviously don't have the chops to run a company.
So you say, "One day maybe we get our lawsuit with IMET." My question to you is, what if you do and you manage to win? Would you refund the people whose money you took? My guess would be no at this point.
You must think you have the biggest swinginest dick in the world to come in here and talk like this. For fucks sake.
Right, monitoring wasn't part of the plot. We can pull the email from Craig lenell who claims otherwise and post it here if you'd like. You were sent a PSU, just like fuzzy was. And there was no fleeing the country, Josh spent 2 months in china building and shipping miners, making sure it got done. Then went back to Bulgaria for a few months to shut down AMT's outsourced operations there. He also dealt with a divorce and and several other things. "Fleeing the country" is a provocative statement, and made to instigate a reaction. Josh had always lived part time in Bulgaria for the past 6 years due to his former marriage. There was no action of fleeing, he just went home. He ended up getting divorced, loosing his apartment in BG, his wife, and new born kid. You lost 6k? He lost everything. He's been in Philadelphia since February. The idea that he's fled the country and has a secret mining farm is ridiculous. He's also met with lenell's lawyers in their office face to face on several occasions. AMT's still has the summons and prepared claim, IMET needs to be served and if there is judgement/settlement it will go to repay the clients, so to answer your question, Yes, the idea was to attribute winnings to clients and issue refunds. Reviewing submissions to a public docket doesn't make you an expert on the matter, and listening to a shmuck like Tony Serrata who has is own agenda among other things is ridiculous as well. There is no more AMT, no secret wallets with tons of btc, no one to sue, just a broke guy working as a freelance electrician fixing peoples light switches and home wiring during the day and spending his nights in the bar or on the sofa staring at the bottom of the bottle. Take what ever money you can afford to gamble with, buy btc and sell between Sept 15-20th. You'll make your 6k back. Or invest in something non-crypto related and open a margin account and long ticker: TZA for the next 2 months, again selling between Sept 15th-20th. Or sue josh personally, and have his "wages garnished". He'd need to be employed for that one bud. Have you googled his name, if you were an employer would you hire him? You just got two sure fire ways to make your money back. Use them. Clenell can you verify the bolded? As for the secret wallets, I pretty much proved that some time ago. Anyone going thru my post history can see the blockchain wallets showing excesses of 2000Btc in poorly masked attempts at money laundering. I mean this was the special olympics of money laundering and you came in last, thats how stupid the attempt was. Took me all of one hour to find it. Took me more time to make the post formatted correctly than it did to trace the BTC you made. Oh and said wallets (there are 2) are still making alot of mining income. Your operation with KNC. But Clenell can validate with a simple yes or no if you really are back. If so there are some people interested in speaking with you (hint they wear uniforms). And whatever you do don't take any advice from Joshua Zipkin aka AMT_Miners. If he is telling you this then it means he is expecting a massive change in the market...because he is obviously one of the people manipulating it (it is still statistically small enough to be manipulated by enough big players). Oh another thing, "clearly" Joshua Zipkin must have someone working for him and therefore money to pay them if he is having someone write this for him. Ergo there is money, else you would not be doing this for free "not Josh" behind AMT_miners. Noone would be so stupid to subject themselves to this after everything that has happened. A google search for your, OH wait I meant Joshua Zipkin clearly demonstrates who he is and his antics and lame SEO attempts to clear his name. |
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Comments by me made in italics in response to emphasis made. In the end, Bitmine's design was stable, but it took a while to get there as Inno pointed out. AMT wasn't updated on revisions and never received adequate support from the swiss as well, this was due to their own chaos of their business, or the fact that they didn't care becuase AMT had already sent their payments to Bitmine, we're still not sure. After reading this thread, some of claims brought against Inno are valid, and some of them against Bitmine as well. Bitmine did have a problem financing the chip, and inno did cover the other half. Inno was subcontracted by Bitmine, and was supposed to and did deliver a reference board as promised. Expansion on that design led to further problems.
Opieum COMMENT to Bolded: It just seems like more it's not my fault mentality. Clearly Inno warned against certain changes. Whether you were aware of that is irrelevant, you deceived everyone regardless. Lotta people lost money. That still is something you will answer for.
AMT had a contract with the swiss, Bitmine was due to originally deliver fully working populated modules by a specific date. After the delayed delivery of the chips/or more over the delayed in the allowance of AMT to pick up the modules, both AMT and Bitmine went into different productions because Bitmine made it apparent that there was no way AMT was going to get fully working modules prior to bitmine customers, especially some of the larger ones. With assurance of support and help from Bitmine AMT agreed and contracted IMET, which further botched the job through several errors, ordering the wrong values on various components and ultimately taking advantage of AMT's desperation at the time with the suggestion to quickturn all orders knowing the capacity of production wasn't there. Skimping on vital details set forth in the bom like the amount of copper in the boards, while cutting costs to increase their commission.
Opieum COMMENT to Bolded: Then why the various misleading blog posts on the original AMT site? You clearly stated various things had shipped/arrived and you had sent to clients and such as early as late 2013...this new statement you are making directly contradicts that. FYI already waybacked this page so you don't go editing your damn posts as you historically tend to do when you are called out on your bullshit. You are legally liable for all your words now. Unlike the old mirror site waybacking archive.org is instant AND has a nice legal charter certifying authenticity of original content when this goes to court. I look forward to the day that gets used against you.
While this community has made both AMT and Bitmine out to be something ridiculous, both companies did try to deliver a product. Now, poor business decisions were made, bitmine did procrastinate in building the design which was due to the fact that they wanted a working asic before they designed a board around a proto, or so it seamed. In our opinion, this caused the delay. AMT ended up re-promising other's promises and hoping for the best. Bitmine did have problems with the designs, and Inno did have different grades and versions of both A1 and A2 chips. Which is a normal process in asic production by the way. When you produce a batch of asics, some turn out better than others. Design changes of the asics between versions made things more complicated for the pcb designers though, and yes voltage is one of them.
Opieum COMMENT to Bolded: I think that is reversed. Again laying blame on others for for your actions. BECAUSE you FAILED to deliver a product you were made out to be something ridiculous is the order of events here. And time proved us all right. You blame us but then followed with making poor business decisions and bitmine procrastinating things. Hoping for the best is not a business tactic I have heard of. Check out an episode of shark tank I am sure they will have some nice lols over that.
In the end, AMT dropped bitmines design and went to china and Inno helped AMT with introductions to production facilities and connections in order to deliver miners to those clients that would still accept them at the time. AMT understood both worlds by the end of that fiasco, and worked to develop rackmount miners which were affordable, stable and viable at the time. AMT's 6 or 7 avengers (clients that were either paid or just made it hobby to screw with AMT's staff and online rep) made it nearly impossible to sell the new models with limited staff and no budget. So, AMT gave up. Which ended the same way for Bitmine, broke and out of the luck. The problems which occurred between bitmine and Inno and why they occurred were ridiculous, problems created by paranoia, greed, suspicion, lack of funding and false promises, on all sides. The problems which occurred between AMT and Bitmine were mostly due to disorganization, and both parties living through the same shit storm, and one party putting too much faith in the other. While Bitmine made miners and mines, AMT made miners in china and focused on lawsuit which drained over 70k+ in legal fees alone.
Opieum COMMENT to Bolded:Again placing blame on others and then immediatly acknowledging your own screw ups at the same time. Thats a talent. You blame people and cast suspicion and doubt. But the fact is you screwed up. When you added insult to injury by "compensating" with what by that time was virtually worthless equipment. You gave people the hashpower 1.25Ths (I use that loosley as these machines barley cracked 1Ths on pools). Some of these people paid 6k and up (myself among them) where the selling point BIG selling point you have chosen to OMIT here is the MPP (miner protection program) that would compensate us to a point should we not get hardware in time or it not hash as advertised. These points were VERY clearly stated in the MPP YOU advertised on the site and were the reason you got customers. We all know how that turned out. I will admit the machines were solidly built. HAD they been built earlier on it might have been a massive win. BUT you chose to decieve and constantly played games and stalled. The whole naughty and nice list that had uninterested 3rd parties even witnessing what was said was posted up (check links in my sig and in NotFuzzyWarms sig). Again you owned your fuck ups, but you immediatly blame us for it which makes no sense. You fucked or scammed us or both. Thats why we the community came at you so hard. You promised the world and gave us shit.
Neither Bitmine or Inno acted 100% correctly, but each of them had their reasons as to why they shouldn't. Bitmine procrastinated on the design until the asics and reference board arrived. Inno sold to chinese vendors because they weren't confident in Bitmines ability to pay. Bitmine didn't wan't to pay until they saw a working product.. You get the idea of the argument.
Opieum COMMENT to Bolded: So basically they fucked everyone. Again blame game. Your part here you already made clear. You were the US distributor, but made your own version of the hardware. The reasons were simple. We got fleeced. You get to run those petahash farms you bragged about in Skype (check chat logs for that he states it there)
But again, this business was a mistake from the beginning. It's ruined lives, it put business owners and clients in financial burden, its destroyed reputations and families. When a wife a client doubts her husband because he made the wrong choice to purchase a miner, (from any company by all means), or when the wife of an owner divorces him right after having their newborn for fear of her child's life and her own due to the types of threats and gestures which have been made. One can say this business destroys lives. But I would guess stocks are no different from the client aspect. Despite good faith practices due to competing parties, it has brought the essence of greed out in everyone involved, investors, clients and manufacturers alike. And almost all have either failed or barely broke even. Like we've said before, the only guy's that really made money were the exchanges.
Opieum COMMENT to Bolded: What the hell are you talking about here? you playing on peoples emotional sympathies here? You ruined alot of people with this. Period, your pity party story doesn't do anything to change that. For the record the stock market only destroys peoples lives when they dont manage their risk. Same with bitcoin. Anyone going into something without managing the risk needs to learn how that works. Going all in just leaves you open to massive loss.
And in the end people still rant and rave on this forum, waiting for the next spurt in bitcoin, getting ready for the next mining manufacturers to trash. While still pissing on those that tried and failed.
Opieum COMMENT to Bolded: And yet Bitmaintech still enjoys some nice profitability because they did A: right by their customers (granted occasional screw ups least they tried fixing) B: ACTUALLY DELIVERED product C: customer service and didnt blame their customers when there was a fuck up. In contrast ALL the failed ones pretty much did the opposite of the 3 points. Tried and failed is accurate. You were "pissed on" due to your incompetence and fact that you absconded with our money and did nothing to try to make it right an issue that is still the case to this day.
Any lawsuit between bitmine and inno wont happen, it's china, no rules apply. So don't waist your time on it. Inno in many ways acted correctly, and Bitmine in many ways acted to the extent of what they felt was justified based on their position, neither acted in a malicious way towards the other in reality, or nothing more than the nature of this business/industry could allow.
The best advise, which has been reiterated on this forum over and over is the following: Don't buy miners, buy Bitcoin.
Opieum COMMENT to Bolded: Not sure if any kind of financial advice from Joshua Zipkin is good. But seeing as he is doing quite well in his bitcoins which blockchain confirms based on previous research (and petahash farms he CLAIMS he has), not sure if taking advice from a crook is good. I would suggest doing your own research. If you have 0 power liability (free power) mining works. Otherwise research it the hell out for your own sake. He is trying to poison the well against the successful manufacturers.
There will be another cycle of this drama soon, hopefully this time it will be more regulated. BTC and all things around it will start up again mid August, escalating (steadily in price) until the beginning of September. You'll see a steady slow rise in BTC, like clockwork. +2% -1% +2% -1% etc. Between the 10th of September and beginning of October, you'll see a jump not too far off from November 2013. LTC will fluctuate between 4 and 8 until hits $9.50, and then jump to 14 shortly after it hits that price point, and will stay consistent at a 4.5-5% threshold of the value of BTC as it once did before.
Opieum COMMENT to Bolded: What is this the mad money of bitcoin? You think you are cramer? financial advice in light of your "business" decisions, I would advise to all stay away from this. His previous predictions have been shit.
The age of crypto currency is not over, if anything it will be needed more than ever shortly, but to those who mine, sell them, because it'll become more and more regulated over time and profits from transactions will decrease as well as it becomes more monopolized by the PTB. Or keep mining, as long as you have a 100mb connection.
Opieum COMMENT to Bolded: And power cheap power. Again shitty advice. A 3Mbit connection is enough to run a moderatly sized mine. Its the power and cooling thats the issue.
This topic of Inno vs Bitmine, is a useless one. Inno has the upper hand, Bitmine's broke, and their swiss. Plain and simple.
Opieum COMMENT to Bolded: What the hell does being swiss have to do with this? Another racist comment from a racist individual
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AMT's 6 or 7 avengers (clients that were either paid or just made it hobby to screw with AMT's staff and online rep) made it nearly impossible to sell the new models with limited staff and no budget. So, AMT gave up.
Blaming your customers for complaining about non-delivery ? How quaint. Correct me if I am wrong, but avengers are heroes born of tragedy and tribulation. Those 6-7 people who got ripped off by AMT (myself among them) had plenty heaped on them because of Josh Zipkin (AMT_miners). I think the picture sums things up as to how he sees us. He must think he is ultron or loki or something. I'll chime in more on what new "items" Zipkin has posted once I have had time to read. Took a break from the forum for a while.  |
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I take it he and/or his lawyers didn't show up in court on 6/4/2015.
Nope. He is not in the US. |
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Post the code, prove it! Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.
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Thought it would be worth noting he went into deep online hiding once this article came out him DDoSing the site. Since the article came out he deleted or otherwise changed his linkedin profile and then altered his twitter profile. https://twitter.com/joshuazipkin is his latest attempt to lie. This page USED to be his picture. I believe someone else if not I posted the page some months ago. Something to show the judge about the levels he is willing to go to deceive people. I thought it would be worth posting since he is trying to SEO history away. Meanwhile there are ALOT of places his stuff has been saved elsewhere including this site which I suspect he had someone try to take down.  http://www.cloudromance.com/kevin101 is where he likely stole the picture from as that is all that comes up when an image matching search is run. I will let others do the psychoanalysis there to comedic effect. All I know is the face on that twitter profile used to be his. And previous and current background checks show that is indeed his profile. Interesting indeed. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=584891.msg9802545;topicseen#msg9802545 I made mention of the profile which had his picture on it at the time. http://joshuazipkin.tumblr.com/ I will put this here. Both images are present and accounted for. Also a search for Joshua Zipkin on startpage.com without the safety filters turns up a crap ton of gay porn so don't search for him at work. In the event he changes the page, I have saved a copy of what I saw at http://web.archive.org/web/20150615025118/http://joshuazipkin.tumblr.com/ if this is being used in a legal capacity, archive.org does provide legal documents certifying legitimacy of the content at time of capture. Won't go into specifics, but its pretty damn obvious these are both his. In case anyone new does not know what he looks like here is a current picture of what he looks like as of October of 2014.  As you can see the makeover above his highly unlikely unless he is going for that whole James Bond Die Another Day storyline. "Killing" off his virtual self and resurfacing as an apparently vain Kenyan looking for love online. Women are gonna be disappointed when they see what he really looks like. Something to consider. EDIT here is a little more evidence of who he used to be. The dumbass cant even cover his tracks right. https://web.archive.org/web/20150615030247/https://medium.com/@JoshuaZipkinBelow are screens of the social sites he is set up on as they appeared when I went to them.  Listings of his social sites.  https://i.imgur.com/cqmfz1h.jpgSame Background as in his twitter.  His twitter page as of 6.14.2015  Tumblr page....lol  |
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https://twitter.com/joshuazipkin is his latest attempt to lie. This page USED to be his picture. I believe someone else if not I posted the page some months ago. Something to show the judge about the levels he is willing to go to deceive people. I thought it would be worth posting since he is trying to SEO history away. Meanwhile there are ALOT of places his stuff has been saved elsewhere including this site which I suspect he had someone try to take down. http://www.cloudromance.com/kevin101 is where he likely stole the picture from as that is all that comes up when an image matching search is run. I will let others do the psychoanalysis there to comedic effect. All I know is the face on that twitter profile used to be his. And previous and current background checks show that is indeed his profile. Interesting indeed. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=584891.msg9802545;topicseen#msg9802545 I made mention of the profile which had his picture on it at the time. Something to consider.
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I have some valuable info that also connects him with some child **** sites. I don't have my linux box up but if no one will stop me I am going to grab some redbull and go to town. Thoughts?
I've highlighted the epic part I already instructed him to get that info to the FBI. They will handily deal with that. Gave him my contact at the FBI to reach out to. They already have the info on him so easy enough to get all that linked up. Hopefully something pops with this idiot. He needs to go to jail. |
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Update rik?
Did he show?
Safe bet he didnt show. Safe bet he stalled or pulled some shit. I figure the judge will give him enough chances before he says to hell with this. |
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Today he was supposed to have a new lawyer entered to represent him in the ongoing case against him and AMT. Since he screwed the pooch on the last two dates I'm not expecting he'll make this one. We'll see. I'll be checking pacer to find out for sure one way or another.
Thanks keep us posted. If anything post up all the links you have posted in this thread so we have one place to view it all? I will repost my blockchain analysis so its all here as well. |
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I think jailing him during the proceedings is fitting because it ensures he is present.
You mean after he is extradited? He fled the country long ago. I'd not be surprised to find out he's back in the US. especially if his marriage went further south. He updated his info to a US P.O. Box and gave his us based cell phone number to the court. Yes he could have been using it in Bulgaria, but why not just include it the last time? Well he has an updated facebook profile that puts him working at Microsoft. He had a linkedin one but looks like he took it down. https://www.facebook.com/Zpkin.Joshua?ref=br_rs&fref=browse_searchInteresting how he is rewriting his professional experience as working from Microsoft. Looks like Microsoft is hiring scammers now. |
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