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1  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is 'saatoshi_rising' Satoshi wanting to tell us something? on: November 15, 2019, 04:42:34 PM
This puzzle is very strange. If it's for measuring the world's brute forcing capacity, 161-256 are just a waste (RIPEMD160 entropy is filled by 160, and by all of P2PKH Bitcoin). The puzzle creator could improve the puzzle's utility without bringing in any extra funds from outside - just spend 161-256 across to the unsolved portion 51-160, and roughly treble the puzzle's content density.

If on the other hand there's a pattern to find... well... that's awfully open-ended... can we have a hint or two? Cheesy

I am the creator.

You are quite right, 161-256 are silly.  I honestly just did not think of this.  What is especially embarrassing, is this did not occur to me once, in two years.  By way of excuse, I was not really thinking much about the puzzle at all.

I will make up for two years of stupidity.  I will spend from 161-256 to the unsolved parts, as you suggest.  In addition, I intend to add further funds.  My aim is to boost the density by a factor of 10, from 0.001*length(key) to 0.01*length(key).  Probably in the next few weeks.  At any rate, when I next have an extended period of quiet and calm, to construct the new transaction carefully.

A few words about the puzzle.  There is no pattern.  It is just consecutive keys from a deterministic wallet (masked with leading 000...0001 to set difficulty).  It is simply a crude measuring instrument, of the cracking strength of the community.

Finally, I wish to express appreciation of the efforts of all developers of new cracking tools and technology.  The "large bitcoin collider" is especially innovative and interesting!

saatoshi_rising, are you satoshi? If you don't want to tell something, we respect your privacy! Maybe you could support us here:

Maybe Satoshi created the greatest prize competition https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5150688.0
2  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Is 'saatoshi_rising' Satoshi wanting to tell us something? on: November 15, 2019, 04:33:15 PM
December 2015 a Bitcointalk member discovered a puzzle transaction while playing around with his bot:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1306983.msg13381244#msg13381244
At that time nobody declared such a puzzle transaction which was created January 2015 until the creator of that competition came out 2 years later:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1306983.msg18765941#msg18765941
As of 01/10/2019 there are still more than 100 BTC to win. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5166284.0

We think that the early mined coins of Satoshi are also a prize competition and that Satoshi is waiting this coins to be moved. We also think that he will not respond after somebody moves the first coins but it will be a message to the Bitcoin community that the private keys are somehow on the blockchain. If Satoshi disagreed with that conclusion he would have moved the coins to other addresses.

Is 'saatoshi_rising' Satoshi wanting to tell us something?
What do you mean?
3  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Open letter/question to Satoshi on: October 29, 2019, 04:07:56 PM
Look at these 19 public keys:

Code:
0434f3e8e75ec56591490b558a6f31211f0f5c92345addee268418af70e8c4b38e69843aa0139d3a393b7353388dcb3e809f28d2f61f998c0299abd5ed3eb3165b
041fb2bee6523163f21f6f7f2918b3c674f5ea1d68abb753537d1eb2d4256bfa632f175e47bf0cea7bc0ad9d4caf158ae7a8a82de70587535922ed7fe94f131459
048743aa38b310b19a9fb5066d82df970c1925503b9e0e8c71099c4a6ec95959de6edf701c94df1e92b04959426fd7b9e5f1875b574400a6778e898a4ae1e09e4d
045015405eb7650997d571ccdf5d9667b6452af2446aa6f39443d6631ccde8cf2f817d3e8713f22fa4f0c066275608db54e1ae2e4b85b9ce0e33fc7de72176d917
041c34b55dbe9793aa023733fddfb0caefbae5b0fdf44dfb28505794ee2e30640a880da077f97733a164ec248bffef94d2104579a989e64c4fa9962807fdf5013c
048583734a32ed0f19c8fb4ef1d53f907eae51b051c946d92160be837dcd8d33dccdbb5d25c9008b8244fc6031b28140520dcc6e34a0aacbd73ab89c38e8aa0c85
044ed97015499143d2945601dcb1539c00fd143c9880fd8086dd609f27d7e6ee720f5557eb1c1104b2d7cf6257221bd332f452a1874475946aaf22a860f1f90960
04cd0e16ec7aabea7c35bf230a59631e38a15c7a491c62f3d9e2d0398bbd48e13c1bfabe822458f8d45cc90c4e06b9c3f220f0c0744f25b81d213c1a28e6d42215
040d38158d879b1da30951cf39f2b31f105601a5c7fdf30442573e9a84b8c00c8ca95f712e76647b54a87db08489c7f76a958dc87278e8311f4c04ae0ac6613ca2
04b61c2d88ad4b579bb4b2193e0e6ec4b9c3b393a34545a0eb7686b02205385133f2179e450da372f9f810b6415835b5121a2ea822820c31ab1f5dc6655f1ae97a
0431ed84b6a2615c121eee1837da2353a4b39c7e176f32d2792d8384e0a7f658871d9d2c2e955b5f9f83d35ecac6c4bec52d02e76d14f85ad74536ac51e38df986
046a54d74528db63cd2164dc7483a7a479bb82dc62aa4e40cf5bcff7871ba839025a0476aa9a1258b657019a4f281a78eb56b6f841c6a363c98ac8713109bdcc7c
04b18527cf6f53ad751f90faad335b094fe5129ca6133a24b901af545bb1b067189574c52a5c8ce0be292e1304a96b77cde70ccf16324717c218c89ef7bc03e5c9
04ac115090af184a8463f16e09bb8225e8c5c9e420646aa3e5327c1bc44d325cd7d180157f02e9d50a056d2d2b84356f9cc7398f0c95e25b6ba68f04f0172166de
04ef7dfdb71a90cf896642c498a7fe702e3d87b3600b4b57c632d2d28cd0ae4b66ca668dc0eb8d1f66cb9ed56167d311953eefb5ed511bba78627eca697cb935ca
046ea9c3ad7b850b085f2c96b5fc8774086514dd297cf2765ad4930a63c0d860cd21302b93cf991d0b711435d0c6ec62ce863450abe6492ead7fd145045daf827f
049d6993e6a9a312f16db0f0b60781472ec5ff9e4a343e2a6a1b2008db9bb5aea018dd838ff572b0bcaf2ada7661b8172960b6846b1e366bb9e9a8f04614608be3
04e76b0e053769e7b213d067f3b5f82b428cec48d3a217a7623d56b69ad4428618185f2d59c3263a50a7887364dbc3dfc60b5f461cbeb57af3cd0121c0e59617da
048b74872254d33cf08cd695c29580b541c4732d30730fa541078ef2d9d0e542132ce0963cb765eb94320d2a2c704b52e41f65536ef53acd8e09c886fd808fd2f0

They correspond to uncompressed addresses with the first transactions in 2011 year, and fund release only in September 2019. The amounts for every address are 100-500BTC. For example the first 3 addresses (released 147BTC, 122BTC and 147BTC) are:
13GUJutC6GKgJQTcGzCtznDDYFQKVJFVwp
13Sa73PU9Ar5sE4SdFcBdbg9ntbNcMQhaA
14k4GhqA1svNZPbssdAjgdnfzWTpAigZVH

Is this Satoshi releasing his early mined funds? This could not be a luck, so huge luck.

I'm not the author of these pubkeys collection. I found it here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1306983.msg52879592#msg52879592

This puzzle is very strange. If it's for measuring the world's brute forcing capacity, 161-256 are just a waste (RIPEMD160 entropy is filled by 160, and by all of P2PKH Bitcoin). The puzzle creator could improve the puzzle's utility without bringing in any extra funds from outside - just spend 161-256 across to the unsolved portion 51-160, and roughly treble the puzzle's content density.

If on the other hand there's a pattern to find... well... that's awfully open-ended... can we have a hint or two? Cheesy

I am the creator.

You are quite right, 161-256 are silly.  I honestly just did not think of this.  What is especially embarrassing, is this did not occur to me once, in two years.  By way of excuse, I was not really thinking much about the puzzle at all.

I will make up for two years of stupidity.  I will spend from 161-256 to the unsolved parts, as you suggest.  In addition, I intend to add further funds.  My aim is to boost the density by a factor of 10, from 0.001*length(key) to 0.01*length(key).  Probably in the next few weeks.  At any rate, when I next have an extended period of quiet and calm, to construct the new transaction carefully.

A few words about the puzzle.  There is no pattern.  It is just consecutive keys from a deterministic wallet (masked with leading 000...0001 to set difficulty).  It is simply a crude measuring instrument, of the cracking strength of the community.

Finally, I wish to express appreciation of the efforts of all developers of new cracking tools and technology.  The "large bitcoin collider" is especially innovative and interesting!

saatoshi_rising, are you satoshi? If you don't want to tell something, we respect your privacy! Maybe you could support us here:

Maybe Satoshi created the greatest prize competition https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5150688.0
4  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Game theory involving Quantum Resistance protocol on: October 26, 2019, 01:29:28 PM
We think that the early mined coins of Satoshi are created as a prize competition (Re: Maybe Satoshi created the greatest prize competition https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5150688.0) and that Satoshi is waiting this coins to be moved. We also think that he will not respond when somebody moves the first coins but it will be a message to the Bitcoin community that the private keys are somehow on the blockchain. Satoshi could move the coins (2009/2010) to P2PKH addresses but did not.

and there is also zero evidence of any of that

not sure, but maybe:

Look at these 19 public keys:

Code:
0434f3e8e75ec56591490b558a6f31211f0f5c92345addee268418af70e8c4b38e69843aa0139d3a393b7353388dcb3e809f28d2f61f998c0299abd5ed3eb3165b
041fb2bee6523163f21f6f7f2918b3c674f5ea1d68abb753537d1eb2d4256bfa632f175e47bf0cea7bc0ad9d4caf158ae7a8a82de70587535922ed7fe94f131459
048743aa38b310b19a9fb5066d82df970c1925503b9e0e8c71099c4a6ec95959de6edf701c94df1e92b04959426fd7b9e5f1875b574400a6778e898a4ae1e09e4d
045015405eb7650997d571ccdf5d9667b6452af2446aa6f39443d6631ccde8cf2f817d3e8713f22fa4f0c066275608db54e1ae2e4b85b9ce0e33fc7de72176d917
041c34b55dbe9793aa023733fddfb0caefbae5b0fdf44dfb28505794ee2e30640a880da077f97733a164ec248bffef94d2104579a989e64c4fa9962807fdf5013c
048583734a32ed0f19c8fb4ef1d53f907eae51b051c946d92160be837dcd8d33dccdbb5d25c9008b8244fc6031b28140520dcc6e34a0aacbd73ab89c38e8aa0c85
044ed97015499143d2945601dcb1539c00fd143c9880fd8086dd609f27d7e6ee720f5557eb1c1104b2d7cf6257221bd332f452a1874475946aaf22a860f1f90960
04cd0e16ec7aabea7c35bf230a59631e38a15c7a491c62f3d9e2d0398bbd48e13c1bfabe822458f8d45cc90c4e06b9c3f220f0c0744f25b81d213c1a28e6d42215
040d38158d879b1da30951cf39f2b31f105601a5c7fdf30442573e9a84b8c00c8ca95f712e76647b54a87db08489c7f76a958dc87278e8311f4c04ae0ac6613ca2
04b61c2d88ad4b579bb4b2193e0e6ec4b9c3b393a34545a0eb7686b02205385133f2179e450da372f9f810b6415835b5121a2ea822820c31ab1f5dc6655f1ae97a
0431ed84b6a2615c121eee1837da2353a4b39c7e176f32d2792d8384e0a7f658871d9d2c2e955b5f9f83d35ecac6c4bec52d02e76d14f85ad74536ac51e38df986
046a54d74528db63cd2164dc7483a7a479bb82dc62aa4e40cf5bcff7871ba839025a0476aa9a1258b657019a4f281a78eb56b6f841c6a363c98ac8713109bdcc7c
04b18527cf6f53ad751f90faad335b094fe5129ca6133a24b901af545bb1b067189574c52a5c8ce0be292e1304a96b77cde70ccf16324717c218c89ef7bc03e5c9
04ac115090af184a8463f16e09bb8225e8c5c9e420646aa3e5327c1bc44d325cd7d180157f02e9d50a056d2d2b84356f9cc7398f0c95e25b6ba68f04f0172166de
04ef7dfdb71a90cf896642c498a7fe702e3d87b3600b4b57c632d2d28cd0ae4b66ca668dc0eb8d1f66cb9ed56167d311953eefb5ed511bba78627eca697cb935ca
046ea9c3ad7b850b085f2c96b5fc8774086514dd297cf2765ad4930a63c0d860cd21302b93cf991d0b711435d0c6ec62ce863450abe6492ead7fd145045daf827f
049d6993e6a9a312f16db0f0b60781472ec5ff9e4a343e2a6a1b2008db9bb5aea018dd838ff572b0bcaf2ada7661b8172960b6846b1e366bb9e9a8f04614608be3
04e76b0e053769e7b213d067f3b5f82b428cec48d3a217a7623d56b69ad4428618185f2d59c3263a50a7887364dbc3dfc60b5f461cbeb57af3cd0121c0e59617da
048b74872254d33cf08cd695c29580b541c4732d30730fa541078ef2d9d0e542132ce0963cb765eb94320d2a2c704b52e41f65536ef53acd8e09c886fd808fd2f0

They correspond to uncompressed addresses with the first transactions in 2011 year, and fund release only in September 2019. The amounts for every address are 100-500BTC. For example the first 3 addresses (released 147BTC, 122BTC and 147BTC) are:
13GUJutC6GKgJQTcGzCtznDDYFQKVJFVwp
13Sa73PU9Ar5sE4SdFcBdbg9ntbNcMQhaA
14k4GhqA1svNZPbssdAjgdnfzWTpAigZVH

Is this Satoshi releasing his early mined funds? This could not be a luck, so huge luck.

I'm not the author of these pubkeys collection. I found it here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1306983.msg52879592#msg52879592

This puzzle is very strange. If it's for measuring the world's brute forcing capacity, 161-256 are just a waste (RIPEMD160 entropy is filled by 160, and by all of P2PKH Bitcoin). The puzzle creator could improve the puzzle's utility without bringing in any extra funds from outside - just spend 161-256 across to the unsolved portion 51-160, and roughly treble the puzzle's content density.

If on the other hand there's a pattern to find... well... that's awfully open-ended... can we have a hint or two? Cheesy

I am the creator.

You are quite right, 161-256 are silly.  I honestly just did not think of this.  What is especially embarrassing, is this did not occur to me once, in two years.  By way of excuse, I was not really thinking much about the puzzle at all.

I will make up for two years of stupidity.  I will spend from 161-256 to the unsolved parts, as you suggest.  In addition, I intend to add further funds.  My aim is to boost the density by a factor of 10, from 0.001*length(key) to 0.01*length(key).  Probably in the next few weeks.  At any rate, when I next have an extended period of quiet and calm, to construct the new transaction carefully.

A few words about the puzzle.  There is no pattern.  It is just consecutive keys from a deterministic wallet (masked with leading 000...0001 to set difficulty).  It is simply a crude measuring instrument, of the cracking strength of the community.

Finally, I wish to express appreciation of the efforts of all developers of new cracking tools and technology.  The "large bitcoin collider" is especially innovative and interesting!

saatoshi_rising, are you satoshi? If you don't want to tell something, we respect your privacy! Maybe you could support us here:

Maybe Satoshi created the greatest prize competition https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5150688.0
Open letter/question to Satoshi https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5159185.0

5  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Founder of bitcoin??? on: October 26, 2019, 01:23:07 PM
Look at these 19 public keys:

Code:
0434f3e8e75ec56591490b558a6f31211f0f5c92345addee268418af70e8c4b38e69843aa0139d3a393b7353388dcb3e809f28d2f61f998c0299abd5ed3eb3165b
041fb2bee6523163f21f6f7f2918b3c674f5ea1d68abb753537d1eb2d4256bfa632f175e47bf0cea7bc0ad9d4caf158ae7a8a82de70587535922ed7fe94f131459
048743aa38b310b19a9fb5066d82df970c1925503b9e0e8c71099c4a6ec95959de6edf701c94df1e92b04959426fd7b9e5f1875b574400a6778e898a4ae1e09e4d
045015405eb7650997d571ccdf5d9667b6452af2446aa6f39443d6631ccde8cf2f817d3e8713f22fa4f0c066275608db54e1ae2e4b85b9ce0e33fc7de72176d917
041c34b55dbe9793aa023733fddfb0caefbae5b0fdf44dfb28505794ee2e30640a880da077f97733a164ec248bffef94d2104579a989e64c4fa9962807fdf5013c
048583734a32ed0f19c8fb4ef1d53f907eae51b051c946d92160be837dcd8d33dccdbb5d25c9008b8244fc6031b28140520dcc6e34a0aacbd73ab89c38e8aa0c85
044ed97015499143d2945601dcb1539c00fd143c9880fd8086dd609f27d7e6ee720f5557eb1c1104b2d7cf6257221bd332f452a1874475946aaf22a860f1f90960
04cd0e16ec7aabea7c35bf230a59631e38a15c7a491c62f3d9e2d0398bbd48e13c1bfabe822458f8d45cc90c4e06b9c3f220f0c0744f25b81d213c1a28e6d42215
040d38158d879b1da30951cf39f2b31f105601a5c7fdf30442573e9a84b8c00c8ca95f712e76647b54a87db08489c7f76a958dc87278e8311f4c04ae0ac6613ca2
04b61c2d88ad4b579bb4b2193e0e6ec4b9c3b393a34545a0eb7686b02205385133f2179e450da372f9f810b6415835b5121a2ea822820c31ab1f5dc6655f1ae97a
0431ed84b6a2615c121eee1837da2353a4b39c7e176f32d2792d8384e0a7f658871d9d2c2e955b5f9f83d35ecac6c4bec52d02e76d14f85ad74536ac51e38df986
046a54d74528db63cd2164dc7483a7a479bb82dc62aa4e40cf5bcff7871ba839025a0476aa9a1258b657019a4f281a78eb56b6f841c6a363c98ac8713109bdcc7c
04b18527cf6f53ad751f90faad335b094fe5129ca6133a24b901af545bb1b067189574c52a5c8ce0be292e1304a96b77cde70ccf16324717c218c89ef7bc03e5c9
04ac115090af184a8463f16e09bb8225e8c5c9e420646aa3e5327c1bc44d325cd7d180157f02e9d50a056d2d2b84356f9cc7398f0c95e25b6ba68f04f0172166de
04ef7dfdb71a90cf896642c498a7fe702e3d87b3600b4b57c632d2d28cd0ae4b66ca668dc0eb8d1f66cb9ed56167d311953eefb5ed511bba78627eca697cb935ca
046ea9c3ad7b850b085f2c96b5fc8774086514dd297cf2765ad4930a63c0d860cd21302b93cf991d0b711435d0c6ec62ce863450abe6492ead7fd145045daf827f
049d6993e6a9a312f16db0f0b60781472ec5ff9e4a343e2a6a1b2008db9bb5aea018dd838ff572b0bcaf2ada7661b8172960b6846b1e366bb9e9a8f04614608be3
04e76b0e053769e7b213d067f3b5f82b428cec48d3a217a7623d56b69ad4428618185f2d59c3263a50a7887364dbc3dfc60b5f461cbeb57af3cd0121c0e59617da
048b74872254d33cf08cd695c29580b541c4732d30730fa541078ef2d9d0e542132ce0963cb765eb94320d2a2c704b52e41f65536ef53acd8e09c886fd808fd2f0

They correspond to uncompressed addresses with the first transactions in 2011 year, and fund release only in September 2019. The amounts for every address are 100-500BTC. For example the first 3 addresses (released 147BTC, 122BTC and 147BTC) are:
13GUJutC6GKgJQTcGzCtznDDYFQKVJFVwp
13Sa73PU9Ar5sE4SdFcBdbg9ntbNcMQhaA
14k4GhqA1svNZPbssdAjgdnfzWTpAigZVH

Is this Satoshi releasing his early mined funds? This could not be a luck, so huge luck.

I'm not the author of these pubkeys collection. I found it here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1306983.msg52879592#msg52879592

This puzzle is very strange. If it's for measuring the world's brute forcing capacity, 161-256 are just a waste (RIPEMD160 entropy is filled by 160, and by all of P2PKH Bitcoin). The puzzle creator could improve the puzzle's utility without bringing in any extra funds from outside - just spend 161-256 across to the unsolved portion 51-160, and roughly treble the puzzle's content density.

If on the other hand there's a pattern to find... well... that's awfully open-ended... can we have a hint or two? Cheesy

I am the creator.

You are quite right, 161-256 are silly.  I honestly just did not think of this.  What is especially embarrassing, is this did not occur to me once, in two years.  By way of excuse, I was not really thinking much about the puzzle at all.

I will make up for two years of stupidity.  I will spend from 161-256 to the unsolved parts, as you suggest.  In addition, I intend to add further funds.  My aim is to boost the density by a factor of 10, from 0.001*length(key) to 0.01*length(key).  Probably in the next few weeks.  At any rate, when I next have an extended period of quiet and calm, to construct the new transaction carefully.

A few words about the puzzle.  There is no pattern.  It is just consecutive keys from a deterministic wallet (masked with leading 000...0001 to set difficulty).  It is simply a crude measuring instrument, of the cracking strength of the community.

Finally, I wish to express appreciation of the efforts of all developers of new cracking tools and technology.  The "large bitcoin collider" is especially innovative and interesting!

saatoshi_rising, are you satoshi? If you don't want to tell something, we respect your privacy! Maybe you could support us here:

Maybe Satoshi created the greatest prize competition https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5150688.0
Open letter/question to Satoshi https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5159185.0
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