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1  Economy / Gambling / Re: Have $15k BTC, want to make several $3k-$5k sports bets, best bonus / rebate? on: January 11, 2022, 08:43:28 PM
If you are US based my first choice would be BetOnline.ag. They been around for several decades and are certainly trustworthy. Mainly focusing on US sports and the US market. 1.91/-110 lines on most of the big leagues. KYC after a certain amount (read the TC before signing up).

BetCris, very similar to Betonline.ag. Been around for ages and are trustworthy. Focus on US and US sports.

Both of these sites accept highroller bets without running into problems. $15k on a NBA/NFL match should not be a issue. The webdesign is old and outdated and bitcoin withdrawals takes up to 24 hours, but other than that they are top notch and you can be certain to be paid your winnings.

If you are comfortable playing with a VPN I would go for Sportsbet.io. They are trustworthy and offer instant deposit/withdrawals. Odds a bit on the lower side compared to Betonline/BetCris.

Most bookies dont want US action. You already gambling if you choose to break T&C when signing up from a restricted area with a VPN.
If I were you I would accept to wait a little longer for my withdrawals and place my action with a US friendly book.

This is a funny post, and shows where you are paying for the marketing with worse odds. Did you know that LowVig is a sportsbook offered by BetOnline? They offer no promotions, only reduced juice. You only see marketing ads for BetOnline and Sportsbetting, both owned by BetOnline. BetOnline and Sportsbetting offer 1.91/1.91 odds, whereas LowVig offers 1.95/1.95. LowVig is owned by the BetOnline group. Check them out sometime.

BetCris is good but they offer no bonuses or reduced juice. I am not a professional bettor, so the desire to have unlimited bet amounts at 1.91/1.91 isn’t an incentive for me. They will take $100k bets with ease though.
2  Economy / Gambling / Re: Have $15k BTC, want to make several $3k-$5k sports bets, best bonus / rebate? on: January 11, 2022, 08:11:54 PM
There are plenty of sites where you can gamble with that volume. I don't think you can see all limits on all sites. You should then view and assess that per site. And it also depends on what kind of sport you want to bet, and whether you also want to add a casino every now and then. There are also many comparison sites with all the pros and cons listed.

No site I see on any of the referral paid “comparison sites” offers 1.95/1.95 odds on main markets and accepts USA players.
3  Economy / Gambling / Re: Have $15k BTC, want to make several $3k-$5k sports bets, best bonus / rebate? on: January 11, 2022, 08:00:08 PM
Hi,

Looking to deposit $15k to a trustworthy site, with best odds and bonus. Anyone have site(s) they would recommend?

I am looking to wager 1-3x of my deposit, no greater. I value speed of withdrawals. If it takes 24 hours or greater, to payout $10k+, I am not interested.

I was planning on depositing to LowVig, which is a fiat site that offers -105/-105 odds, no bonus, on all major markets. They pay out $10k+ in under an hour. Figured I would post here to see if there are any trustworthy books I am not familiar with.

Some extra details: I am US based, VPN accessible (if allowed and a site actually pays out), looking to bet on NFL/NHL/NBA/CBB.

I would consider FortuneJack, but had an issue with them years ago and they refused to honor a lossback of $1k they owed me, despite me being down $10k to them.

This seems like the setup for money laundering, where you make such an offer trying to entice casino owners and place bets at two locations with a small difference in pricing. One casino owner will win from the bet and the other will have to pay almost twice the amount back to you. That way you get cleaned money from a wallet that is either unique or scrambled with potentially thousands of transactions per day. I wonder if you are willing to submit to KYC or will this be a deal breaker for you? If you will submit to KYC then you might be legit, otherwise it just makes it even more suspicious. Trustworthiness goes two ways and there is something suspicious about anyone posting this sort of offer.

Bit ridiculous to accuse me of money laundering.

I am looking to make $3-5k bets, either lose the $15k or cashout $30k (double my deposit). If I bet $5k on 1.91 odds market, where LowVig will pay me 1.95, I just cost myself an additional $250 winnings.

Too many people do not consider house edge. 1.91/1.91 is a 4.5% house edge. 1.95/1.95 is a 2.5% house edge.

KYC by these basically unregulated casinos run in Curaçao, which I guarantee involve themselves in money laundering the profits out of Curaçao, is their way of delaying payouts. When you say “oh send us your documents” and hold someone’s withdrawal for several days, many degenerates will continue to gamble and lose it all. Casinos do not give a care about who you are EXCEPT when they can 1) keep your winnings or 2) encourage you to keep gambling.

Fairlay (BTC) and LowVig (Fiat) are by far the two best sportsbooks I have used. Both offer great odds, no bonuses, no KYC, and pay out $10k+ in under an hour.

My post was simply seeing if any US accepting book that was as good as Fairlay or LowVig had come out. From what I am seeing, the answer is no. And that’s okay! I will deposit to Fairlay or LowVig as usual.
4  Economy / Gambling / Re: Have $15k BTC, want to make several $3k-$5k sports bets, best bonus / rebate? on: January 11, 2022, 07:50:16 PM
Stake.com
Sportsbet.io
Fortunejack.com
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Well, all above it seems Stake.com has a lot of bonus offer when you deposit a big amount like what OP said. But I don't know recently there are many players there has a complaint here, perhaps anyone of you wants to gamble there, just read carefully the TOS to avoid the serious problem in the future which is commonly experienced by most. This casino has really strict when it comes to violations.
However, there are more. Wolf.bet and I heard Roobet has now Sportbetting. But for further information regarding a gambling casino list that has gained a reputation here just look at this thread. [ https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5333602.0 ]

Unfortunately for high rollers / big bets, Stake is not the best. Their odds can be as bad as 1.86/1.86 on major markets. For some markets they are as good as 1.93/1.93.

For small winnings, Stake will payout but for large payouts, they will require KYC, and will take my winnings for using a VPN, despite them allowing it for years. They are freerolling a lot of people now. Their bonuses are for small bettors, offering money back for $100 or less bets, nothing for big players.

Right now 1.95/1.95 seems to be my best option with LowVig.
5  Economy / Gambling / Re: FORTUNEJACK.COM |Deposit 777 play with 1777 mBTC |Live Casino, Slots, Betting on: January 11, 2022, 05:57:14 PM
Guys, anyone had a chance of spinning this FortuneJack's Wheel of Fortune?



All the options look pretty good. Smiley

Nice rewards and it is reasonable prize since the requirement to be eligible to spin the wheel is also not easy for recreational gambler.
Lemme quote the requirements of the Wheel of Fortune:
Quote
  • In order to participate in, your loyalty status should be equal to VIP.
  • Only real money bets made in SPORTSBOOK will be qualified towards the Promotion.
  • Only real-money wagering qualifies. Bets made using bonus money will not counttoward promotion.
  • For each 1000 $ wagered in SPORTSBOOK you get 1 spin.
  • Minimum bet amount qualified towards the promotion is 500 $.
  • The minimum total odds of betslip is 1.4
  • Maximum amount of spins to accumulate per day is 3

It means that to get the chance to spin the wheel we need to make at lest 2 bets worth $500 each in sports with the above minimum odds requirement.
Loyalty status should be equal to VIP as well, so I think this promo is targeting high rollers only.


I wish FortuneJack was a reputable site. My username ianbtc371 there wagered a lot and lost $10k+ to them. They refused to honor a lossback of $1k a couple years ago to me, not realizing the long term implications of their decision. Since their refusal to honor their promotion, I have lost $50k+ to other crypto casinos. FortuneJack having the best odds for several markets and good promotions, those funds would have been lost them most likely. Their greediness to refuse to honor a $1k lossback led to them missing out on $50k losses by me. Most were lost to Stake.com instead.

When I contacted them 6 months ago to see if any better experience, they wanted my IP address, all personal information, etc just to answer a customer service question.

It’s unfortunate the decisions their customer service team have made. I imagine I am not the only one negatively affected. If they had casino hosts managing their CS team, people would likely have better experiences.

Looking to deposit $15k to a Sportsbook this week for NFL playoffs, please message me if there are any sites similar to FortuneJack. thanks
6  Economy / Gambling / Re: Have $15k BTC, want to make several $3k-$5k sports bets, best bonus / rebate? on: January 11, 2022, 05:49:47 PM
I would recommend you Playbetr as my first impression of them was way better than any other casino. I was having a problem with registering on playbetr due to their internal problem. When I shared this in bitcointalk, they offer me a bonus for the interuption. They had shared a bonus of almost $20 worth of BTC I guess though I haven't used the site yet; the bonus is still there as it was. They are here for a quite long time and had no issue with my known.

Appreciate the reply. Unfortunately Playbetr does not have good odds. They appear to have standard -110/-110 or worse odds on main markets. I do not see any bonuses, rebates or incentives that would lower their house edge to warrant the worse odds.

The -105/-105 with $5k limits by LowVig is likely to be best, but curious to see if any sites offers better.

7  Economy / Gambling / Re: Have $15k BTC, want to make several $3k-$5k sports bets, best bonus / rebate? on: January 11, 2022, 05:26:07 PM
hello, give me your telegram, I want to ask you something, your private messages are blocked

Hi, not interested in buying picks, betting with a random person, tailing, or selling crypto. Many scammers around. If you’d like to ask me a question, please post it here.
8  Economy / Gambling / Have $15k BTC, want to make several $3k-$5k sports bets, best bonus / rebate? on: January 11, 2022, 04:59:22 PM
Hi,

Looking to deposit $15k to a trustworthy site, with best odds and bonus. Anyone have site(s) they would recommend?

I am looking to wager 1-3x of my deposit, no greater. I value speed of withdrawals. If it takes 24 hours or greater, to payout $10k+, I am not interested.

I was planning on depositing to LowVig, which is a fiat site that offers -105/-105 odds, no bonus, on all major markets. They pay out $10k+ in under an hour. Figured I would post here to see if there are any trustworthy books I am not familiar with.

Some extra details: I am US based, VPN accessible (if allowed and a site actually pays out), looking to bet on NFL/NHL/NBA/CBB.

I would consider FortuneJack, but had an issue with them years ago and they refused to honor a lossback of $1k they owed me, despite me being down $10k to them.
9  Economy / Gambling / Re: DO NOT PLAY AT STAKE.COM. 1st DAY betting there and they have SCAMMED ME on: July 24, 2020, 06:04:49 AM
Looks like I can only send 1 PM per hour so I’ll follow up here.

Sent you screenshot of the error and my account.

Update: just spoke with support, they say there is an issue with the time stamp of the coupon refund, and to try the link in a couple hours.

Once I receive the refund will give Stake another shot (they have some really good cash back promos if your bet lose certain ways) and delete this thread.

Thank you
10  Economy / Gambling / Re: DO NOT PLAY AT STAKE.COM. 1st DAY betting there and they have SCAMMED ME on: July 24, 2020, 05:46:28 AM
Hi Eagles,

Sorry we had an issue with our odds provider. We actually ended up choosing to pay out all the winners and void all the losing bets.

You can claim a full refund by using this link.
https://stake.com/?bonus=BaseballBack

I will explore the issues you had with live support, again please accept my apologies for the inconvenience and frustration.

That is okay since it appears things are resolved. However, when I click that link it says “coupon code no longer valid”. My balance is still near 0 and ticket graded a loss.

Can you please add the 0.0275 BTC to my account directly?

 I appreciate your quick response on here and will change/delete this thread. I apologize for the aggressive commenting but how quick I was blocked on live chat I was very upset. I am headed to bed but hope to resolve this in morning.
11  Economy / Gambling / Re: DO NOT PLAY AT STAKE.COM. 1st DAY betting there and they have SCAMMED ME on: July 24, 2020, 05:32:27 AM
As TalkStar has said, have you even tried contacting their Support and asking there? The chat support there is so super quick and I guarantee you would have gotten an answer and your money back faster than it took you type up this scam post...

I highly doubt that Stake would scam you and not follow their own rules...
Try it in a polite manner in their chat and you will get an answer and most likely you money back.

I went directly to their live support when I saw the bet was misgraded. Darko told me I was wrong and then blocked me from using live support. I did not curse or anything, worst I said was I’m being scammed when he refused to correct the bet.
12  Economy / Gambling / Resolved - refund received on: July 24, 2020, 03:26:13 AM
Wagered 0.0275 BTC on a game, was misgraded, live support initially did not help, Stunna helped out, refund received.

Will give the site another try

Thank you
13  Economy / Gambling / Re: FORTUNEJACK.COM |Deposit 777 play with 1777 mBTC |Live Casino, Slots, Betting on: November 03, 2019, 12:12:18 AM
So I wanted to come back and share my incredible experience. A++

Been on a sick run, up 0.45 BTC in sports, 0.05 in blackjack.

I withdrew both my initial deposit + 0.25 BTC profit. My initial two withdraws for 0.18 BTC total took almost 24 hours, which was discouraging. They made u for it tonight though. They just sent my 0.25 BTC withdrawal in under an hour.

Even more awesome they just sent me an email telling me I was 14th in some leaderboard and won 0.01 BTC no rollover. Hopefully the luck continues but hey they are now one of my main spots for sports. Between Fairlay and them, can find amazing odds.
14  Economy / Gambling / Re: FORTUNEJACK.COM |Deposit 777 play with 1777 mBTC |Live Casino, Slots, Betting on: November 01, 2019, 05:25:43 PM
I was new account, heard they had sports and was pleasantly surprised with their odds.

Received my larger payment now, so all is good. I had received a 10mbtc freebet but my average bet was 50 mbtc so I clearly am not a bonus abuser.

Hopefully going forward withdrawals are faster. In a highly volatile currency, odds and <1 hr withdrawals are equally important.




Bug issue: I don’t know if it’s because my account is currently winning overall but I am unable to play the mines game. When I click the mines game on a losing ticket in Google Chrome, the screen pops up that says I have 2 lives, must get 4 clicks without bomb or whatever. Never been able to click or play the game.

Also, I wagered 1mbtc on a parlay yesterday to play the 100 mbtc 6 correct answers promotion, I tried selecting clippers to win (YES and SUBMIT button) in the promo page at least 10 times and it kept saying error try again or something along those lines. Figures clippers ended up winning too.
15  Economy / Gambling / Re: FORTUNEJACK.COM |Deposit 777 play with 1777 mBTC |Live Casino, Slots, Betting on: November 01, 2019, 02:09:57 PM
Hi,

I suffer from anxiety and this sportsbook is not helping.

I deposited ~0.15 BTC and have made several large sportsbets. Overall I have won.

I am trying to withdraw and they keep delaying my payout. It has been 24 hours.

I want to keep playing here but I am used to Fairlay and Nitrogen where payouts are ALWAYS 1 hour or less.

I withdrew 0.1 BTC yesterday morning, still not received. I withdrew 0.08 BTC last night and received that this morning.

Email response has been very slow and I don’t have access to desktop computer right now (at work).

Please send my 0.1 BTC withdraw soon or for my health will have to withdraw my full balance. I can’t deal with 1+ day payouts in bitcoin world for a new book to me. It brings me flashbacks of when I was scammed by two bitcoin sportsbooks years ago.
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