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1  Bitcoin / Legal / IRS crypto tax audit letter confirmed by crypto tax firm on: December 22, 2021, 04:33:01 AM
UPDATE

In April 2021, CryptoTaxAudit.com published the information requested by the IRS in crypto audits. Some spellings are different (e.g. "I.D." vs. "ID"), one typo was corrected ("in paper" -> "on paper"), but other imperfect wordings remained. The letter contains three additional items vs. the /r/bitcoin letter:

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7. All records reconciling acquisition, whether by purchase or cryptocurrency-to-cryptocurrency (C2C) transaction, and sales, or other disposition such as C2C transaction histories or receipts and counterparties to all transactions
8. All records relating to investment expenses claimed with respect to any investments in virtual currency, including but not limited to invoices, receipts, canceled checks, bank records
9. All records relating to any lending or borrowing (on margin or otherwise) through fiat currency or in cryptocurrency
2  Bitcoin / Legal / You guys are naive AF on: August 28, 2020, 12:03:27 AM
KYC on big exchange, I can easily send out my documents to them.

No shit. Have you not heard of the Binance KYC leak?

hopefully there is security about our personal data.

LOL

Have you bothered to google "KYC data leaks"?

I am not afraid of KYC, because I understand the need for this procedure, it at least creates the appearance of compliance with the law. Everyone knows that KYC is not an absolute security system and there are weaknesses in it, but new rules appear and now all exchanges must establish the identity of the recipient and sender of the cryptocurrency and also monitor their transactions.

Another example of brainwashing. KYC is NOT FOR YOUR SECURITY.

KYC is so exchanges can cover their ass.

KYC works AGAINST YOU.

Google all the KYC data leaks.

Then ask yourself what happens to all the hacked and failed and exit-scam exchanges that have KYC data. Do you think they've securely shredded it? Ahaha. Go to some darknet markets and see how easy it is to buy KYC data (IDs, passports etc.) Where do you think some of that data is coming from?

We don't NEED KYC any more. The DEXes have arrived.

If we all said FUCK YOU to KYC and centralized exchanges, DEX would have have a shitton of volume too.
3  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: When did Coinbase start sending 1099-K forms to customers? on: August 28, 2020, 12:01:03 AM
I think my question is pretty much moot nowadays that IRS seems to just find out who owns crypto anyway.
4  Bitcoin / Legal / Assume all exchanges rat you out on: August 27, 2020, 09:56:38 PM
In 2019, the IRS sent the famous three letters to US tax payers. It's unclear how they got the data, but they did issue a summons to Coinbase for customers with transactions past a threshold (200tx, $20k total... tho that's still vague, $20k / tx? $20k withdrawn? $20k transacted total is very very little)

Well now in 2020 IRS sent another set of similar letters yesterday, and it's still unclear how they got the data, but given that they signed a deal with Coinbase Analytics in July, it's not hard to guess.

The Australian tax office also sent a bunch of letters in March 2020.

Time to switch to DEXes, though I don't know any that support Bitcoin.
5  Bitcoin / Legal / Dumb petitioner on: August 13, 2020, 02:18:53 PM
I agree that the petitioner was a bit of an idiot. I mean if you ask for a refund **from crypto gains** then you refuse to provide documentation, what do you expect.

Question is, what does a regular crypto audit from the IRS look like?
6  Bitcoin / Legal / Zietzke v. United States on: August 11, 2020, 10:45:33 AM
Would this be corroborating evidence?

Zietzke v. United States, January 2020

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In its request number two, the IRS seeks:

All customer identification program records (such as Know Your Customer (KYC) or Customer Due Diligence (CDD) records) relating
the Taxpayer and Covered Accounts, including, but not limited to, identifying information such as date-of-birth, physical address, social security number or other tax-identification number, passport, driver's licenses or other government-issued identification, Taxpayer photographs, income/employment information, customer explanation of activity information, third-party identification verification reports, and any other information used to verify or confirm identity.

Request No. 6 requests:
[a]ll account history information . . . for transactions or events relating to any Covered Accounts, including, but not limited to the type of transaction . . ., party and counter party names, digital wallet information, blockchain addresses, transaction ids, and any other information related to the identity or location of the parties involved.

(Dkt. No. 1-2 (Request No. 6).) Request No. 8 requests:
[a]ll contact information for individuals or entities . . . associated with any transactions involving any Covered Accounts, including, but not limited to, name, user name, address, telephone number, transaction id, and identification information.

(Dkt. No. 1-2 (Request No. 8).) Request No. 9 requests:
[a]ll documents and information relating to any payment or transfer to or from any Covered Accounts, including, but not limited to, counterparty name, account, user name, physical mailing address, email address, website, checks, wires, electronic transfer information, ACH, PayPal, money orders, prepaid card information, or any other form of payment information.

We previously issued Information Document Requests for information pertaining to virtual currency holdings as follows:

• The Information Document Request #1 requested "Virtual Currency activity statement for the period of 1/01/2016 through 12/31/2016, if available. If no virtual currency activity statement is available, please make available your spreadsheets, schedules, ledgers or other records used to track your virtual currency balance, transactions, etc."

• The Information Document Request #2 requested "Print out the block chain transactions for all wallet addresses owned with the explanation of all the transactions for the period under exam."

Furthermore, held phone conferences on the following dates as well to resolve this tax matter: 10/15/2018, 11/15/2018, 12/17/2018, 2/15/2019, 2/28/2019.

The IRS apparently used Chainalysis to identify where Zeitke moved bitcoins:

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We have reviewed the information provided by [Petitioner] with respect to his Bitcoin transactions during 2016. Based on the information and his explanation during our telephone conference, there are still some uncertainties with respect to his activities during the 2016 tax year. For example, [Petitioner] indicated that all of his Bitcoin holdings were essentially split between the coins held in his personal wallets managed through the Armory software and the coins that he acquired through Coinbase and disposed of through Coinbase or Purse.io.

[Petitioner] explained that the none of the coins held through the Armory wallet were disposed of during 2016 and that all of the coins disposed of during 2016 came from acquisitions made through Coinbase. This is not true. Based on the transaction ids provided with the Purse.io information, we were able to locate those transactions on the Bitcoin blockchain and the address from which the coins were sent to Purse.io are not related to Coinbase. We were able to link some of those addresses with wallets associate with both Bitstamp and BTC-e, which are/were cryptocurrency exchange platforms similar, but unrelated, to Coinbase.

I can't seem to find the summons that the IRS sent to Coinbase, or Revenue Agent Snow's declaration. Are those attached or linked somewhere? Though what can be seen in Casetext alone is already very close to the same type of information as in that Reddit letter.
7  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: IRS crypto tax audit letter / notice on: August 07, 2020, 06:46:56 AM
I have not personally seen any clients hit with an IRS crypto audit.  The IRS recently put out an RFP for assistance in calculating basis so I think they are a ways away from mass audits of individual taxpayers.  The audits I have seen in this space were entities.  Based on discussions with IRS and Treasury officials this list would seem overly detailed for their capabilities and current enforcement targets.

Is this the RFP you're mentioning? Seems to refer to only 22,000 accounts from 2017.

Nonetheless it still seems rather fishy, as I'd expect more people to report receiving similarily detailed IRS audits.

same. this is in the "possible but likely bullshit" category until we see more corroboration.

I'm not surprised there's been only one report of this letter so far, for a few reasons:
1. IRS has only recently started auditing individuals who filed crypto gains. That checkbox has been there for the 2019 returns.
2. It's Covid, and they're operating at lower capacity.
3. How many crypto earners reported their crypto? I remember watching an interview with the COO of Cointracking,info, who said that only 1% had reported their crypto gains. (Can't find the video, not sure what year, I assume 2019?)
3. Out of the people who filed crypto earnings, how many get audited? 1%?
4. Out of those, how many post on reddit, or bother to create an account? 1%? 10%?
5. Out of those, how many go through the trouble of posting the letter? I think the overall estimate for #4 and #5 is reasonable at 1% again

So 1% of 1% of 1% reported crypto taxes, got audited, and posted. That computes to 1 million to payers who filed crypto gains. More than plausible.

I wonder why someone would come up with a fake crypto audit letter going into great plausible detail about what's requested, but then make a silly mistake and not just use one font throughout.
8  Bitcoin / Legal / Example of IRS Audit letter on: August 07, 2020, 06:39:37 AM
This thread shows up at the top of the search results for "IRS audit" so I thought I'd give an update and point to something that hasn't been mentioned on the forum, this (alleged) IRS crypto audit letter sent in Feb 2020 (after the 2019 "soft letters", and before Harper v. IRS).
9  Bitcoin / Legal / IRS crypto tax audit letter / notice on: August 01, 2020, 08:10:01 AM
I'm surprised this hasn't made it on the forum when it was posted on Reddit in Feb.

IRS Crypto tax AUDIT notice probes deep - original Reddit thread

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Provide the following for all virtual currency transactions during the time period 01/01/2017-12/31/2017
  • Detailed records for the acquisition and disposition of any virtual currency (domestic or international), including but not limited to:
    • Emails, screen prints, hardcopy prints, and transaction receipts maintained by the taxpayer or provided by any third-party such as an exchange, broker, or peer-to-peer facilitator (e.g. Paxful, Localbitcoins.com)
    • Wire transfer or direct deposit records, including automated clearing house (ACH) and electronic funds transfer (EFT) records.
    • List of all virtual currency kiosk (i.e., BTM or cryptocurrency kiosk or ATM) locations used along with copies of any transaction receipts or acknowledgements whether provided electronically or in paper.
    • A detailed list of cryptocurrency transactions involving cash including dates, input/output counterparties involved in the transaction, and the cryptocurrency involved
    • All correspondence (I.e., emails, texts, tweets, etc.) with all counterparties to any virtual currency transactions
    • List of all virtual currency received from hard forks, faucets, tipping, or any other method where a sale, buy, or exchange was not initiated by the receiver of cryptocurrency (commonly called airdrops), including date, type, and amount of virtual currency received with the date of sale, or other disposition, including amounts and description of what was received
    • Explanation of the method used to compute basis relating to the sale or other disposition of virtual currency
    • Records reflecting the valuation of any sale or other disposition of virtual currency at the time of acquisition and disposition
  • Records relating to any expenses paid or items purchased (whether domestic or international) using virtual currency
  • List of all blockchain addresses owned or controlled by taxpayer
  • Records of all transactions relating to lending of virtual currency or use of virtual currency as collateral for loan, including, but not limited to, loan agreements, promissory notes, ledgers, transaction receipts, pledge, security, or collateralization agreements
  • List of all digital currency exchanges (DCE) and peer-to-peer (P2P) facilitators (e.g., Coinbase, Paxful or Localbitcoins.com) (foreign and domestic) with associated user Ids, email addresses, IP addresses, and account numbers relating to those platforms
  • List of all counterparties for any P2P virtual currency transactions (identifying the on-chain and off-chain transactions), email address, user IDs transactions.

This is not an all-inclusive list. Requests for additional information may be made if considered necessary.

Some people in that thread think the letter is fake because it uses two fonts and some other details. What do you guys think?
10  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][POLIS] PolisPay (Non-custodial, Debit cards, Gift Cards, Shift) on: August 01, 2020, 07:41:56 AM
If you have any questions, please let us know and we will gladly answer.


Bullshit. I've asked a simple question here and you guys never answered, kept spamming your shit blog updates
11  Economy / Exchanges / Re: When does Coinbase send Form 1099-K? Which 200+ Transactions? on: August 01, 2020, 07:27:47 AM
coinbase pro and coinbase prime customers receive a 1099-K if they pass the 200 transaction/$20k threshold. once you pass the threshold, they will place a restriction on your account and formally require you to complete a taxpayer ID request.

Thanks for sharing that.

Related interesting stuff: a crpyto audit letter from the IRS requesting a ridiculous number of things for 2017. Someone posted it on Reddit without any details (some claim the letter is fake). Would be interesting to know if the poster was caught by the 200tx/$20k threshold.

12  Economy / Exchanges / Jubiter is dead on: April 30, 2020, 11:40:26 PM
Jubiter is no longer issuing cards, but they still let people apply for them. Be careful. Who knows what they do with your KYC documents.
13  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Instant top-up on: April 27, 2020, 08:35:28 AM
How long does it take to top up your card? Another company is usually instant?

Can you share which the other company is?
14  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / PolisPay, you guys still alive 'n kickin? on: April 26, 2020, 10:00:15 PM
If you have any questions, please let us know and we will gladly answer.

Hello? It's been a week, you guys slowed down by Coronavirus or something? Smiley

Any why is your website so broken? "Join beta" for the card goes to some Google doc, FAQ link goes to "coming soon" etc. Do you think that inspires people to trust you with our money?
15  Economy / Exchanges / When does Coinbase send Form 1099-K? Which 200+ Transactions? on: April 20, 2020, 12:30:37 AM
Old thread, but have there been any updates on this? Did Coinbase work with you in the end?

You don't get a form 1099-K unless you reach 200+ transactions coming into Coinbase AND those 200+ transactions add up to more than $20,000.00.

Do you get a Form 1099-K if you make 200+ transactions within Coinbase, including trading on Coinbase Pro? Doing day trading can easily add up transactions, but those won't be "into Coinbase". Also doing just 4 BTC day trades now will get you above $20k.
16  Bitcoin / Legal / Replying to naive opinions on: April 20, 2020, 12:05:57 AM
If you're are afraid of using your documents illegally, you must follow follow this steps:
1. Go [Suspicious link removed]] [Suspicious link removed][/url] and type some words as: DO NOT RESELL ,or FOR ICO ONLY on your docs.

LOL and now a completely random site, [Suspicious link removed], has a copy of your legal documents, before you watermarked them!

Download image editing software on your local machine, if you want to watermark confidential documents.

Best to add a text over your id's or passport like  "copy for xxx ICO". So it is pretty useless for other illegal activities.

Really? They can't pay $10 to an experienced Photoshopper to remove that text?

And what about the video verification you have to do for a ton of services? No text/watermark there. The resolution may not be great, but ML-based image sharpening tools already exist and we're talking about very predictable content, like an ID (text) and a face.
17  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][POLIS] PolisPay (Non-custodial, Debit cards, Gift Cards, Shift) on: April 19, 2020, 11:55:05 PM
PolisPay integration

Use your ZCOIN on real-world goods and services. Learn more here:

https://medium.com/polisblockchain/use-your-zcoin-on-real-world-goods-and-services-c41d6181aded

If you have any questions, please let us know and we will gladly answer.

Please answer this question about this paragraph from your ZCOIN blog post:

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The epay card Prepaid Mastercard® ... enables you to pay anonymously online and offline up to €100. ... The card can be ordered through Bitcou GmbH. The recharge is then possible via gift card through the Polispay App in €100, €50 and €25. ... PolisPay is the first app in the world where you can load the card with crypto.

Question: what exactly do you mean by "PolisPay is the first app in the world where you can load the card with crypto"? Monaco, Monolith (formerly TokenCard), TenX and other providers have been offering the possibility to load debit cards with crypto for years.
18  Bitcoin / Legal / When did Coinbase start sending 1099-K forms to customers? on: April 19, 2020, 11:29:54 PM
I know Coinbase sent 1099-K forms for 2018, in early 2019 to eligible customers ("gross proceeds over $20,000 and more than 200 transactions").

But did they also send forms for 2017, when lots of people had gains? When did they start sending W-9 or 1099-K? I've seen a post from 2016 mentioning that.
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