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I'll worry about black slavery, as soon as they have the same concerns over Irish and Chinese slavery.
I don't see the Irish asking for reparations from the British either.In fact they would probably have endured the worst levels of oppression from colonial power.I think approximately 40% were even starved to death while the wheat and other food resources were at the same time shipped to Britain. The Irish fortunately look rationally at what was then and what is now.As far as I know they are still Britain's largest economic trading partner today although this may have changed in the last few years. This is an interesting video on the history of their oppression and many of our Black lives matter friends and colleagues might do well to see how this "whitest of white" race suffered simply because of their refusal to "kneel" before the crown. https://youtu.be/WHr9GRgRw_M #whiteprivilege To all my Black friends and persons of differing races,creeds and colors I once again say you are being played with the old divide and rule tactic  god made this world in a way that only those beliving in him the most are being sovereign all others are meant to be their slaves. it will always be this way. 99% of people where slaves all over the world i will not listen to that black racist crap anymore, no one is as racist as black people You're either on the side of the oppressor or your fighting against any and ALL kind of oppression. There are two tribes here. Us ending oppression, you benefiting from it. BLM is just a cog in the wheel of the idea of America, Liberty and justice for all, we the people, we are fighting for this version of America for us all. Not just blacks, but jews, native Americans, Armenians, ALL OF US. |
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The idea I have is to set up a collectively funded food bank/food truck that can provide one free meal a day to anyone in the city who needs it (trying to eliminate the hunger problem here in America), to keep contributions and business running, I incentivize the investors/philanthropists by giving them a partial ownership in the business via a token.
This part I still can't understand. Your business, as you called, is actually charity as people donate to your food bank/food truck right? How you keep 'contributions and business running' when you're relying on donation and from that, partial ownership in the business to investors for shares of your business is enough to convince them of profit? Are you going to steal a part of the donation to keep as your profit? SO instead of the current business model, I want to give the business to the people who invest in it to operate. The only profit is given back to the business operations, paying employees, and expanding the business to more communities. Imagine you give $10 to a fund that is raising $1m, but we only use half of that $1m, so $500k to operate the business, and the other half is rightfully the investors making this happen. So out of the gate your $10 a month or your one time $10 is cut in half, but as soon as the company reaches $2m that initial $10 is now paid back, and when it's $4m, it's now $20 and so on and so on. Im trying to be creative in incentivizing people to fund programs that help heal communities. Make sense? |
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both, it's not either or it's about recognizing how the world has perpetually exploited blacks, and that now we all must stand up for them because we're all human, we don't chose our parents or how they raised us, but we can choose how to educate our selves on the matter of systemic racism and collectively unlearn the racist subtleties each of us have to better work collectively as a people moving forward into a future where block chain will empower us to develop new systems that work for us all and that can't be destroyed.
slavery is nothing new it always existed, black africans where never as explioited in numbers compared to other nations. secondly the term "exploit" has a positive and a negative meaning, when africans where exploited people considered that "usage" not "exploitation" putting wild hunters and gatherers into organised plantation wasn't necessarily something negative, they where likely to die from snakes, animals etc. race relations can't end as long as we have still a racist mob in the midst of the world, destroying stuff. further black people are exploiting their mob, to pressure weak politicians to give them stuff, allianating others in the process. yeah, jews we're enslaved in Egypt I get it, but white people kidnapped blacks and brought them over to America to work for them to build their wealth. They didn't ask for this. I think you're not putting yourself in their place when you speak. You got to remember, you are them you are not separate from them. Slavery is not ok. See the bigger picture here, and once you think you see the bigger picture go bigger, sit on the moon if you have to. ohm no i have no slaver in my famil history slaver owners among white or jewish people where historically a minority, slavery was normal back then, black people sold their enemy tribes to white slavers and wher happy to get money for that. historically slaving society where not racist but religious. religious enforcment was lethally important to them, in order to prevent distrust, among people. it is today impossible for nonblack people to go to africa where there is slavery. because sincy everyone can lie, minorities get catched and enslaved. additionally have you ever considered how a metalist economy with illiteral people and no printed money at all and no economy stability can work without slavery? it can't besides there is a saying among muslims, there is always slavery there is never an absence of it. the us anti slavery movement does nothing else but selling the slavery through their central bank. without banks there is no capitalism and everyone is equal -> equally poor, like in the soviet union. us will become like soviet union if leftists continue destroying it, and massive numbers of us businesses will flee to russia. It sounds like you're giving up on progression, where we all benefit and no one feels oppressed. It seems like you believe so much that we reached our capacity of social performance that you almost want to go back to slave labor and keep people oppressed, the oppressed demand progress, and they deserve it, and we owe it to our children to come up with new solutions to achieve prosperity for all. It seems like a lot of people on this thread hold themselves above others. We got a long way to go, I guess roughly another century when the ugly beliefs die with them all and the new generation can begin imagining where our feeble minds can't. We need a real revolution of spiritual inner work, you can't deny the root truths of life. That we are all derived from one, we love where we come from, and that love is the truth. We can all prosper in that collective basic understanding. We are not separate, eliminate your separatism. Show empathy for the oppressed. We can not chose where we're born or who are parents are. YOU could have been born into the violent disgusting circumstances that many were born into. Step outside yourself and your intellectual bubble. Witness the truth! It's a simple simple thing to do. there will always be oppressed people the world isn't how you think it is, its not wordly there is a divine aspect that defines the capital, the powerful and the slaves, just because people in the west today abolish direct slavery, doesnt mean there is a way to get rid of financial slavery. people will desire financial slavery which is called capitalism, for good reasons. there will be no progress anymore civilisation now is crushing down, savages have outnumbered the good people. that's disheartening to hear that people feel the way you do, we're moving away from capitalism as we know it, and need to think of solutions that can benefit us all. Like I work 9-5 and I agree that I'm a financial slave, but I get to choose what I do to make money, or if I don't want to make any money at all I can go sleep under the bridge. I'm just saying there will be progress and block chain proves it. We need to embrace tech and start working together to solve many of the worlds problems with it. I feel like as soon as we stop thinking we're separate from the people from other continents and start embracing our equality we can develop systems by the people for the people that renders our current systems nearly obsolete. I guess I'm writing a sci-fi movie, but if it's not Generation Z that does it it will be another, unless we're toppled by the military before they let us solve these problems for ourselves. |
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You didn't mention how you're going to do business with your startup. It looks not even a business at all if you're feeding people one meal a day, this looks more of a charity and investors that will put money into your startup will get ownership and how they'll make money from that? there's no clear business model that you're actually doing including the marketing and hiring of employees. Most of things that you have mentioned were all cash-out flow and the only cash in flow is the investors money.
I suppose I'm relying on good faith of the investors to continue to contribute money into a business that feeds people for free, the more investors that are attracted to the idea the larger the market cap grows thus improving their ROI long term. Which is different then giving it away to a charity and never seeing a return at all. It is all cash out, the only cash in is the investors contributions and donations here and there. It'd be set up like a non-profit, but as soon as the money stops flowing, the business is done. It's not a business if it's non-profit. And you shouldn't call people that contributes money as investors, they should be donators. Because both words have a different meaning and being called as an investor, there's an expectation of a return of something from what they've invested in. No investor will invest when the distribution of free meals to people once done, it's already done. I think that you have to clarify that to your donators instead of calling them investors. The return they get will be in half of their total investment, or the value of the company, maybe a coin isn't it but I think block chain can work somehow. I guess I have to do the math before I raise any funds obviously, but I'm just trying to imagine a community program funded by the people that have partial ownership in that company. If it takes 100,000 people to raise a $1m, and it takes $500,000 to hire employees and run the company say, the other half of the valuation of company belongs to the 'donaters' the reasons I'm calling them investors is because there is a possibility of a return even it's not the most lucrative investment. But if 200,000 people contributing monthly are now valuing the company at $2m then the early adopters have made their initial investment back, and as more people subscribe the more the company can thrive in communities and the more wealth early adopters can accumulate. I guess I have to find out what other incentives the 'donator' gets other then a peace of mind of feeding the hungry and shares in the company, I'm thinking of some type of product mailed to them could be more of an incentive. I guess I'm imagining it like a program you opt into as if it were some type of tax, and at the end of each year you can get some type of 'tax return' even if its not your total investment. I feel like there's something here, I just have to work out the economics of it, because if it is a non-profit the $10 a month subscription (or any donation) would be a write off to the contributor. |
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1. You call it "business", but it actually sounds more like charity, so which is it?
2. Your token has no utility, it's a share in your hypothetical company, but it's unclear how would it generate profit for investors? And what are the guarantees that it will be distributed?
3. Your token will be an unregulated security, which will attract the attention of the SEC.
4. No one is going to give 1mil to some anonymous guy's ICO these days.
5. There's no hunger problem in America, no one starves to death, the existing solutions work just fine.
1 in 7 people in America go hungry everyday. |
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You didn't mention how you're going to do business with your startup. It looks not even a business at all if you're feeding people one meal a day, this looks more of a charity and investors that will put money into your startup will get ownership and how they'll make money from that? there's no clear business model that you're actually doing including the marketing and hiring of employees. Most of things that you have mentioned were all cash-out flow and the only cash in flow is the investors money.
I suppose I'm relying on good faith of the investors to continue to contribute money into a business that feeds people for free, the more investors that are attracted to the idea the larger the market cap grows thus improving their ROI long term. Which is different then giving it away to a charity and never seeing a return at all. It is all cash out, the only cash in is the investors contributions and donations here and there. It'd be set up like a non-profit, but as soon as the money stops flowing, the business is done. so how investors will be benefited with your ideas if your business Wil only give foods for free? Its mean they can only get the ROI they want base on the market value which you don't even know if the project that you will be created will have a value in the future , or it will the demand you are assuming to have. It'd be less of an investment to gain wealth than it would be an investment in the belief that no one should go hungry. Like subscribing to Netflix for $10 a month gives you content, subscribing to the food service gives you peace of mind and ownership of the company providing the meals. It'd be in the interest of the investor to talk about the service with others so that more people contribute thus increasing the value of the company. It's a long shot. |
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both, it's not either or it's about recognizing how the world has perpetually exploited blacks, and that now we all must stand up for them because we're all human, we don't chose our parents or how they raised us, but we can choose how to educate our selves on the matter of systemic racism and collectively unlearn the racist subtleties each of us have to better work collectively as a people moving forward into a future where block chain will empower us to develop new systems that work for us all and that can't be destroyed.
slavery is nothing new it always existed, black africans where never as explioited in numbers compared to other nations. secondly the term "exploit" has a positive and a negative meaning, when africans where exploited people considered that "usage" not "exploitation" putting wild hunters and gatherers into organised plantation wasn't necessarily something negative, they where likely to die from snakes, animals etc. race relations can't end as long as we have still a racist mob in the midst of the world, destroying stuff. further black people are exploiting their mob, to pressure weak politicians to give them stuff, allianating others in the process. yeah, jews we're enslaved in Egypt I get it, but white people kidnapped blacks and brought them over to America to work for them to build their wealth. They didn't ask for this. I think you're not putting yourself in their place when you speak. You got to remember, you are them you are not separate from them. Slavery is not ok. See the bigger picture here, and once you think you see the bigger picture go bigger, sit on the moon if you have to. ohm no i have no slaver in my famil history slaver owners among white or jewish people where historically a minority, slavery was normal back then, black people sold their enemy tribes to white slavers and wher happy to get money for that. historically slaving society where not racist but religious. religious enforcment was lethally important to them, in order to prevent distrust, among people. it is today impossible for nonblack people to go to africa where there is slavery. because sincy everyone can lie, minorities get catched and enslaved. additionally have you ever considered how a metalist economy with illiteral people and no printed money at all and no economy stability can work without slavery? it can't besides there is a saying among muslims, there is always slavery there is never an absence of it. the us anti slavery movement does nothing else but selling the slavery through their central bank. without banks there is no capitalism and everyone is equal -> equally poor, like in the soviet union. us will become like soviet union if leftists continue destroying it, and massive numbers of us businesses will flee to russia. It sounds like you're giving up on progression, where we all benefit and no one feels oppressed. It seems like you believe so much that we reached our capacity of social performance that you almost want to go back to slave labor and keep people oppressed, the oppressed demand progress, and they deserve it, and we owe it to our children to come up with new solutions to achieve prosperity for all. It seems like a lot of people on this thread hold themselves above others. We got a long way to go, I guess roughly another century when the ugly beliefs die with them all and the new generation can begin imagining where our feeble minds can't. We need a real revolution of spiritual inner work, you can't deny the root truths of life. That we are all derived from one, we love where we come from, and that love is the truth. We can all prosper in that collective basic understanding. We are not separate, eliminate your separatism. Show empathy for the oppressed. We can not chose where we're born or who are parents are. YOU could have been born into the violent disgusting circumstances that many were born into. Step outside yourself and your intellectual bubble. Witness the truth! It's a simple simple thing to do. |
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both, it's not either or it's about recognizing how the world has perpetually exploited blacks, and that now we all must stand up for them because we're all human, we don't chose our parents or how they raised us, but we can choose how to educate our selves on the matter of systemic racism and collectively unlearn the racist subtleties each of us have to better work collectively as a people moving forward into a future where block chain will empower us to develop new systems that work for us all and that can't be destroyed.
slavery is nothing new it always existed, black africans where never as explioited in numbers compared to other nations. secondly the term "exploit" has a positive and a negative meaning, when africans where exploited people considered that "usage" not "exploitation" putting wild hunters and gatherers into organised plantation wasn't necessarily something negative, they where likely to die from snakes, animals etc. race relations can't end as long as we have still a racist mob in the midst of the world, destroying stuff. further black people are exploiting their mob, to pressure weak politicians to give them stuff, allianating others in the process. yeah, jews we're enslaved in Egypt I get it, but white people kidnapped blacks and brought them over to America to work for them to build their wealth. They didn't ask for this. I think you're not putting yourself in their place when you speak. You got to remember, you are them you are not separate from them. Slavery is not ok. See the bigger picture here, and once you think you see the bigger picture go bigger, sit on the moon if you have to. |
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You didn't mention how you're going to do business with your startup. It looks not even a business at all if you're feeding people one meal a day, this looks more of a charity and investors that will put money into your startup will get ownership and how they'll make money from that? there's no clear business model that you're actually doing including the marketing and hiring of employees. Most of things that you have mentioned were all cash-out flow and the only cash in flow is the investors money.
I suppose I'm relying on good faith of the investors to continue to contribute money into a business that feeds people for free, the more investors that are attracted to the idea the larger the market cap grows thus improving their ROI long term. Which is different then giving it away to a charity and never seeing a return at all. It is all cash out, the only cash in is the investors contributions and donations here and there. It'd be set up like a non-profit, but as soon as the money stops flowing, the business is done. |
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both, it's not either or it's about recognizing how the world has perpetually exploited blacks, and that now we all must stand up for them because we're all human, we don't chose our parents or how they raised us, but we can choose how to educate our selves on the matter of systemic racism and collectively unlearn the racist subtleties each of us have to better work collectively as a people moving forward into a future where block chain will empower us to develop new systems that work for us all and that can't be destroyed.
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Hi I don't know where else to turn to get comments on the idea I have for a local business using an ICO to fundraise. My question is this, please bare with me.. Can you raise money with a token to fund start up costs on something that's a community project? Or a non-coin/tech related improvement? The idea I have is to set up a collectively funded food bank/food truck that can provide one free meal a day to anyone in the city who needs it (trying to eliminate the hunger problem here in America), to keep contributions and business running, I incentivize the investors/philanthropists by giving them a partial ownership in the business via a token. Now, let's say I offer 50% of the Marketcap of the token to the investors collectively, the more you buy the more ownership you have, and the more business we can continue to do. But with the remaining 50% I use to fund the businesses expenses, hiring employees, marketing, food, etc. Well before I feel like I'm on to something I need someone to give me a reality check, because in my mind (based on my limited knowledge) offering tokens as say 'shares' of the company can be later cashed in as the companies Marketcap continues to expand, or as more people donate/invest. My reality needs to be checked and that's why I'm asking you. Because if I raise say $1m to start up and use $500k to operate the business for the year and leave the $500k as the investors stake in the company does that create a problem for me as the company continues to grow? OR is that incentive of buying the token, funding food and service for hungry people, and being a partial owner with potential future profit on the right track to funding lots of future community ran programs? Is block chain even necessary? Help me figure this out, and please give me ideas or solutions to problems I might run into. OR help point in the direction I need. OR tell me it's nuts won't ever work, be honest. |
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