Do Black lives matter or Do all lives matter?

[BADecker]

I agree. But explain why people die at all, and how they die very fast in war. I mean, if life were priceless, you would think that there would essentially be no death. Or is it the rareness of life that makes it priceless.

Each of us is only given life once. That's why it's priceless. We can't buy a second life for any money.

People like sheep are led to slaughter so they don't appreciate their lives...

I think wars are being fought to reduce our planet's population, as the planet gets more polluted every day. Just imagine that every liter of oil extracted from the bowels of the earth is replaced by a liter of fresh water that we can no longer use. 

People recognize how precious and priceless their life is when they are threatened with immediate death. The routine of the day makes them forget if they are not threatened. Dead people don't realize how precious their life was.

[TECSHARE]

And I'm Irish, so I know a little about my ancestors being enslaved.

The word slave literally came from the fact that the Slavic people were enslaved. Of course that doesn't fit with the narrative that America invented slavery and only black people were ever slaves.

[KingScorpio]

i started in a different thread a distinction.

racism comes worldwide in 2 forms.

leftracism
and rightracism

leftracism seeks to achieve to mix races.

while rightracistm seeks to force them into racial rasters

[proparty]

both, it's not either or it's about recognizing how the world has perpetually exploited blacks, and that now we all must stand up for them because we're all human, we don't chose our parents or how they raised us, but we can choose how to educate our selves on the matter of systemic racism and collectively unlearn the racist subtleties each of us have to better work collectively as a people moving forward into a future where block chain will empower us to develop new systems that work for us all and that can't be destroyed.

[KingScorpio]

both, it's not either or it's about recognizing how the world has perpetually exploited blacks, and that now we all must stand up for them because we're all human, we don't chose our parents or how they raised us, but we can choose how to educate our selves on the matter of systemic racism and collectively unlearn the racist subtleties each of us have to better work collectively as a people moving forward into a future where block chain will empower us to develop new systems that work for us all and that can't be destroyed.

slavery is nothing new it always existed, black africans where never as explioited in numbers compared to other nations.

secondly  the term "exploit" has a positive and a negative meaning, when africans where exploited people considered that "usage" not "exploitation" putting wild hunters and gatherers into organised plantation wasn't necessarily something negative, they where likely to die from snakes, animals etc.

race relations can't end as long as we have still a racist mob in the midst of the world, destroying stuff.

further black people are exploiting their mob, to pressure weak politicians to give them stuff, allianating others in the process.

[Vod]

The world is waking up to the injustice of blacks in America, but we are only going to solve racial problems by considering all races equal.

Which is more racist?   A white person saying nigger or a black person claiming only they can use that word.  Either the word is taboo, or it can be equally used by anyone.

Let's acknowledge what we did, apologize, pay reparations - but I feel we should become one single human race before we colonize other worlds.

The word slave literally came from the fact that the Slavic people were enslaved. Of course that doesn't fit with the narrative that America invented slavery and only black people were ever slaves.

I heard the term slave used many times in "The Ten Commandments".  Are you saying that movie is not true?   

[KingScorpio]

The world is waking up to the injustice of blacks in America, but we are only going to solve racial problems by considering all races equal.

Which is more racist?   A white person saying nigger or a black person claiming only they can use that word.  Either the word is taboo, or it can be equally used by anyone.

Let's acknowledge what we did, apologize, pay reparations - but I feel we should become one single human race before we colonize other worlds.

The word slave literally came from the fact that the Slavic people were enslaved. Of course that doesn't fit with the narrative that America invented slavery and only black people were ever slaves.

I heard the term slave used many times in "The Ten Commandments".  Are you saying that movie is not true?  

why does the world has to care about that? why are all americans responsible for the "injustice" to blacks in america and not just those that commited them. why do all have to pay reparations to black people and not those that did damage to them? isn't this sick? america is collapsing currently anyway.

maybe black people should simply print their own ICO, and those responsible should buy their coin, and not demand from people that migrated much later into the usa to care about those "black people"

[TwitchySeal]

whats your oppinion?

It's not either or.

If all lives matter, then black lives matter.
If black lives don't matter, then all lives don't matter.

[Vannie12]

People say they know that all lives matter, they think it does but in reality some people just forget that. They behave and judge differently. Americans should not be judged in general because individually, we are accountable of our actions. Mistreating people due to their color defines how you think of them.
If one of those police have that kind of thinking, it wont ever end up to death..

[PopoJeff]

The world is waking up to the injustice of blacks in America, but we are only going to solve racial problems by considering all races equal.

Which is more racist?   A white person saying nigger or a black person claiming only they can use that word.  Either the word is taboo, or it can be equally used by anyone.

Let's acknowledge what we did, apologize, pay reparations - but I feel we should become one single human race before we colonize other worlds.

The word slave literally came from the fact that the Slavic people were enslaved. Of course that doesn't fit with the narrative that America invented slavery and only black people were ever slaves.

I heard the term slave used many times in "The Ten Commandments".  Are you saying that movie is not true?   

Acknowledge what "WE" did ?   Who exactly is WE?   I didn't have any slaves, and no one in this lifetime was a slave.
   Pay reparations to who?   Absolutely no one alive today, born and raised in the US was ever a slave.

And with who's money?   Tax money (my money)?   I'll be god damned in I'm paying a cent for something I didn't do to people who weren't affected. 


It's history.  It was history worldwide and commonly accepted.  The US acted before most of the globe did to do the right thing. Get over it

[TwitchySeal]

Get over it

I don't think that's going to work.

[tvbcof]

Get over it

I don't think that's going to work.

The so-called 'white males' have sustained a large amount of abuse for quite a while now with what I consider to be an amazing amount of tolerance.  It's possible that it's 'tolerance' more than 'capitulation' and some groups are estimating this.  Hope so.

It's not going to work out well for the SJW retards and mis-labeled 'minorities' whether the 'white males' (incorrectly) lash out at them, or (correctly) lash out at the real culprits who created the the SJW retards and 'minority' golem for social engineering reasons.  The SJW and minos are simply tools and will lose no matter how things go.  That's baked in already.

The SJW and minos better hope and pray that the so-called 'white males' win in the upcoming struggle because I guarantee the 'white male' group will give the SJW a better outcome than will the designers who programmed them.

[Vod]

Acknowledge what "WE" did ?   Who exactly is WE?   I didn't have any slaves, and no one in this lifetime was a slave.
   Pay reparations to who?   Absolutely no one alive today, born and raised in the US was ever a slave.

And with who's money?   Tax money (my money)?   I'll be god damned in I'm paying a cent for something I didn't do to people who weren't affected. 


It's history.  It was history worldwide and commonly accepted.  The US acted before most of the globe did to do the right thing. Get over it

If you feel that way, that's great.   Make sure you don't feel proud of the past accomplishments of your country or family if you weren't around to help.  

"United States" - ironic name. 

[PopoJeff]

Acknowledge what "WE" did ?   Who exactly is WE?   I didn't have any slaves, and no one in this lifetime was a slave.
   Pay reparations to who?   Absolutely no one alive today, born and raised in the US was ever a slave.

And with who's money?   Tax money (my money)?   I'll be god damned in I'm paying a cent for something I didn't do to people who weren't affected. 


It's history.  It was history worldwide and commonly accepted.  The US acted before most of the globe did to do the right thing. Get over it

If you feel that way, that's great.   Make sure you don't feel proud of the past accomplishments of your country or family if you weren't around to help.  

"United States" - ironic name. 

There's a difference between pride and perpetual victimhood. 

If my great great grandfather was killed by your great great grandfather, should you be liable in my civil suit?
Where does it end?

I'll worry about black slavery, as soon as they have the same concerns over Irish and Chinese slavery.

[SaltySpitoon]

The problem with the "All lives matter" thing isn't the sentiment you get just from the name. By the name, you'd think the all lives matter movement is an amendment in fighting against injustice against all people rather than black people, but its not, its a protest against a protest. Black lives matter doesn't mean that all lives don't matter, if you ask if their tenants specifically state that police brutality is ok if its against other races, they aren't saying it is. They just needed a name that was direct to their point. Sort of like how mothers against drunk driving will allow you to partake if you're a father, or don't have any kids at all.

Straight to the point, all lives matter is absolutely true, but that isn't what the all lives matter movement means.

[Vod]

I'll worry about black slavery, as soon as they have the same concerns over Irish and Chinese slavery.

Brings me back to my original point - we should think of it as just "slavery" and not differentiate the race being enslaved. 

[Viper1]

, pay reparations

That's ridiculous and just seems to be a "white quilt" thing. The entire thing is far more complicated then.. "lets's just give them some money and wash our hands of it". It's also a subtle.. "I'll give them some money and they'll shut up about it" And who should the reparations come from? A lot of the slaves were purchased from other black people in Africa. So maybe they should pay some reparations. "We" took this land from the native Americans and have used it to all our benefits. And this currently includes black people. So maybe everyone, black, white, Hispanic and so on and so forth should just pay it forward to native Americans. Besides that, in what way do you think that "white people" can or should sit there and decide what a black persons life is worth and thus give them some reparations for that. I've heard from some black people that actually find the idea offensive.

[Viper1]

The US acted before most of the globe did to do the right thing.

Denmark bans import of slaves into colonies in 1792. Unclear how extensive that was. Britain abolished the slave trade in 1807, the US in 1808. Britain abolished slavery in 1833. In US, emancipation of slaves in 1863, constitution amended 1865.

Get over it

It's a little hard to "get over it" when you are told you're now an equal citizen and then there's constant "roadblocks" put in your way to actually be an "equal" citizen. Things such as redlining or the Tulsa massacre and so on and so forth just makes it just a tad difficult to "get over it".

[Gyfts]

The US acted before most of the globe did to do the right thing. Get over it

Denmark bans import of slaves into colonies in 1792. Unclear how extensive that was. Britain abolished the slave trade in 1807, the US in 1808. Britain abolished slavery in 1833. In US, emancipation of slaves in 1863, constitution amended 1865.

The exact date of when slavery was abolished doesn't put into context the fact that there was still inequities in the U.S. based on systemic racism. Reasonably, you could make that argument objectively with Jim Crow up until the 1970's. Problem is that people in the year 2020 will say that systemic racism is so widespread that it creates inequities towards African Americans.

[Viper1]

The US acted before most of the globe did to do the right thing. Get over it

Denmark bans import of slaves into colonies in 1792. Unclear how extensive that was. Britain abolished the slave trade in 1807, the US in 1808. Britain abolished slavery in 1833. In US, emancipation of slaves in 1863, constitution amended 1865.

Problem is that people in the year 2020 will say that systemic racism is so widespread that it creates inequities towards African Americans.

The problem is that it's systematic "oppression" (for lack of a better word) against "poor" people and a large number of them are black people plus the racial biases that are all wrapped in it all as well. And that's why you end up with threads like this. The "intent" of BLM was to draw intention to how black people bare the brunt of that "oppression". It was a poor choice of a name as we've seen because the other groups that also get the short end of the stick so to say pipe up and say.. hey.. what about the shit I go through.. my life matters so all lives matters.. and on and on it goes and people get so wrapped up in arguing about a stupid name as opposed to focusing on the real issues and just getting the shit done.