@Bambolina how's it going these days? Could you please tell me something: How come that you got 20,000 views for this topic? I highly suspect these were clicks from another website, when I see the normal views count for other subjects. Can you tell how you managed to get that much views for your thread? I'd be interested in doing the same for this one: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5368279.0[/quote Hi there, it could be better but at least I'm not gambling. Regarding the views I don't have a clue but I did opened as many thread as I could In many gambling forums and I guess this attracted people to follow the thread. I really hope who saw the thread will stay away from this casino as they have zero integrity. My advice is to provide all the evidence you have and open as many threads as possible as reputation is alla casino has hope people will back you up. I am extremely greatful to the gambling community for the support recieved as without them the casino would have just ignored me. |
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Probably. Just found their blog has an entry trashing Wazden: https://www.ltccasino.com/cryptocasino/wazdan-glitchy-slots-that-harm-casinos-and-players-alike/From the second half: LTC Casino and Wazdan’s Power of Gods: Hades
The Emucasino incident revealed another vital detail: Wazdan games may contain vulnerabilities. This information can bring massive profits for those with proper skills ready to act maliciously. After the attackers narrowed the search to Wazdan titles, it didn’t take much to find a bug.
Next, the question arose of where to exploit the bug with minimal risk of detection. The choice fell on LTC Casino – an anonymous crypto casino with instant payouts.
The attackers created an account, made a deposit, and immediately proceeded to the vulnerable slot – Power of Gods: Hades, another Wazdan’s creation employing the Hold and Win mechanics. Despite the success during the preliminary testing, they couldn’t replicate it. After a bumpy start, the attackers blackmailed the casino and demanded their deposits back since losing money was not a part of their plans.
Still, they were confident about their findings. To exclude possible external factors, they closed sunk accounts and continued to play the same game on new ones, since it is allowed by the LTC Casino terms. In total, they made about 50,000 spins in Power of Gods: Hades without placing a single bet in any other game. If you have ever played at an online casino, you realize that this approach has nothing to do with pleasing gameplay, especially when you lose.
But this is only true if you are not certain that the game is guaranteed to pay off. When they finally managed to trigger the bug, it was easy for them to win the grand jackpot of x3000 three times throughout 13,000 spins. According to Wazdan’s statement, the probability of hitting the grand jackpot in Power of Gods: Hades is 1:166000. Thus, the odds of hitting three grand jackpots in such a short period are virtually non-existent.
This was the only information that LTC Casino managed to get from Wazdan. The developer ignored all other issues, including the request to conduct a detailed analysis of all rounds and sessions on the player’s accounts, not just the winning spins. The studio even refused to disclose the volatility level at which the game was played. This information was of key importance for the casino’s investigation after the provider turned down its own.
The reluctance of some providers to target themselves is understandable since this entails reputational damage and possibly even substantial restitutions. Wazdan has shown that they are not averse to such practices either, leaving troubleshooting to their shell operator Volt Entertainment, which avoids mentioning the head company and prefers a vague “us”, and refusing to conduct a detailed investigation when it is obviously needed. Indeed, it is much easier to conceal a bug that does not have such a visual reflection as in Prosperity Pearls.
Conclusion
If you are interested in the Power of Gods: Hades bug, we hate to break it to you. Most likely, it was identified and silently fixed by the developer. Furthermore, it is impracticable to exploit bugs without special software. Such software was also used in this case, as evidenced by thousands of non-stop spins, impossible through the in-game autospin feature, and the sessions of 16 hours or more. Few players can sustain this pace, but computers are perfect for it.
Crucially, no one knows what bugs remain in Wazdan slots. They pose risks for both casino operators and players. For casinos, it means that they may pay out illegitimate winnings without much help from the provider. And if you are a player, the situation is not much better. Don’t be filled with enthusiasm when you win big in Wazdan slots, as your winnings may be a result of an in-game error. What’s more, such bugs may work both ways. In other words, the RTP may be much lower than expected, but you will never know about it. Guess they decided not to include the obvious lie that after investigating softswiss "unequivocally" determined the win was fraudulent and just used their own flawed "player only played one game, played 50,000 spins and then hit two 3,000x wins - must be cheating!" logic. Usually it's players making the outrageous claims of being cheated, not the casino. Ltc casino never shared the alleged Softwiss statement because cheating never happened and Sofswiss would have to face wadzan make such a false accusations. I have nothings to lose anymore and since I never cheated and I was scared of not getting paid I never tried to force Ltc to share Softwiss statement. Ltc casino should share it and clear their names as for months they called a cheater with no proves and also made such a defamatory accusations against their provider wadzan. |
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Hi everyone,
I wanted to update you all on the matter.
Unfortunately I had a relapse and after withdrawing 1/3 of the amount won i played the remaining.
This was surely the plan of the casino anyways knowing I was a compulsive gambler.
They refused to pay my winning at once ( I would have settle for less)eventough they took 3 months to verify my winnings and accused me of cheating without proving it.as I never cheated so they knew at the end they had to accept the winning after I made so much noise.
Unfortunately there is not protection for vulnerable players, I would have loved to take less money and close my account but
They refused so I had to fight a battle with myself and of course I have lost it.
iT is what it is.
I would not recommend anyone to play on this site as if u ever win They will use any excuse not paying you ,lie and even accuse the software provider.
I wanted to thank everyone who supported this case as I wouldn't have obtain the result I did .
I will not withdraw the flags as people should be warn of their ill malpractice.
I own my mistake as Unfortunately a compulsive gambler without a serious and respectable casino who respects the player wish will fail.
They knew I would have relapse and not paying the money.
To whoever is tempted to sign in be aware that the casino will take 3 months to " verify " your winnings and will accuse you all the evil in the world for not paying you.
There is not self-exclusion or time out rule and the cash out has caps for 75ltc a week and 300 ltc max a month.
Ill be take a long break as im not well but I wanted to say thank you and now that I don't feel threaten of not being paid I can honestly say " STAY AWAY".
FLAGS STAYS AS THEY DESERVE IT.
Thanks again everyone.
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Any news Bambolina? I hope you managed to withdraw all of your funds by now without playing!
According to the last post of the op, op is getting the payment from the casino and after that post there is no update means there is no more problem happening on the online casino site. If there should have any problem then we may see any update on this thread. OP is a compulsive gambler. It would be nice after all this if he were to tell us all went well. He had to connect to the casino every single day for 100 days to withdraw, so he might have gambled his win and lost. Hi everyone, apologies for late response but I have been travelling to visit my mum. So far I have been able to make withdrawals daily according the withdrawals t&c. its a 300 ltc monthly limit but so far I didn't have any issue. I have changed the title as I agreed with the casino rep as he requested and changed since for now they have been paying me. I have requested of those who supported the red flag if they could remove it and few said they will when the payment will be paid out all ,I'll keep everyone updated. I did not disappear ,  , just travelled and spent time with my mother as she had a stroke in January and I couldn't finally visit her out of the clinic and spent time face to face. The money has been going towards her medical bills so I must thank everyone as it has been helping the quality level of the help she needs. |
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Can someone please help me to remove the flags?
I am personally satisfied by the outcoming of the issue and would massively appreciate if those who have supported my flag would remove it.
I was convinced I was never going to be pay and so far they have been paying every single withdraw and I feel is fair on them to restore their reputation too since they agree to pay my winnings.
Thanks to everyone.
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Thanks for the advice.
will change it again.
I have asked if the payout could be done all at once as it might make people who supported the flag remove the red flag.
Hopefully they will do that as it will be a much safer option for everyone.
That seems more than a reasonable thing to do. If LTC Casino give you the full amount that was being disputed (1496 LTC) then how can the flag against them remain? LTC Casino never accepted liability for any wrongdoing towards you. They never stated you were mistreated by them. They agreed to return the funds to you on three conditions: First: they stated SoftSwiss clearly stated your win was classified as a fraud. Second: they stated the win was not possible without a vulnerability in the software provided by Wazdan. Third: since they were hosting Wazdan software which they were not aware had vulnerabilities but also the 3 month period for investigation had expired without Wazdan admitting to their software being vulnerable, LTC Casino decided to release the 1496 LTC on a technicality. I also advocated for LTC Casino to allow you to withdraw the 1496 LTC you claimed but it did not mean I believed your version of events. I stated before, I do not know whether you exploited a vulnerability in the Wazdan software but I concluded on a technicality they should give you the 1496 LTC. Other members made up their mind (like me) based on what they read. Most (if not all) stated you should receive the 1496 LTC but I did not leave them negative trust and I did not support the flag. I think LTC Casino have conducted themselves in an almost exceptional manner in this scam allegation. They marginally exceeded their 90 day investigation period but all in all I think their conduct which eventually resulted in allowing you to withdraw the 1496 LTC leaves their brand name in very good standing. I re-iterate, I am glad you are in the process of receiving the funds you claimed but with withdrawal limits according to their ToS. I am equally glad LTC Casino made the call to give you the 1496 LTC making it clear SoftSwiss have called your win a fraud and paying you on a technical reason. Full credit to LTC Casino for taking the initiative and restoring the community faith because it has been a long time since we had a favourable resolution in a scam allegation in such a swift and almost seamless manner. After the full 1496 LTC have been withdrawn I hope you continue to advocate for the negatives tags against LTC Casino to be removed (or at the very least revised to neutral). To be honest I'm going to remove the flag as all I wanted was my winning as I did win it without cheating. Ltc casino as kept the promise and I have asked already those who supported the flag if they can remove it. I have changed the title as resolved too as I think since they are paying me is fair and they did indeed restore my faith in the industry. |
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I have changed the title as solved.
If you are able to withdraw 15 LTC daily then you haven't received more than 405 LTC until now. But their terms says weekly withdrawal limit is 75 LTC only, and it is the 4th week since LTC Casino has enabled the withdrawal for you. It means you haven't received more than 300 LTC until now. It would be better to not change the title as solved as long as you aren't receiving your full amount. I have supported the flag and left a negative feedback to LTC casino representative account in the April month. I will change it to neutral when you will receive the full amount. Keep the title as “payout processing partially” or something like that until you receive the 1496 LTC. Thanks for the advice. will change it again. I have asked if the payout could be done all at once as it might make people who supported the flag remove the red flag. Hopefully they will do that as it will be a much safer option for everyone. |
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Agree with you.
I have changed the title as solved.
I'm willing to remove the red flag and would love to ask everyone who supported it ;which I'm very greatful for if they could remove the flag support.
Will the administrator be able to remove the flag at once all the winnings will be paid?
I have asked the casino if they could pay the winnings all at once as i think it would be easier for some people to remove the flag support but not sure they will agree with it and I'm fine with that but probably would most definitely convince others to remove the flag the supported.
So far I have been able to make my daily withdraws which im very pleased and i would like to be fair with the casino as overall they are keeping the promise so far.
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Hi everyone,
so far I have been able to make withdrawals from my account.
They have a 15 ltc daily withdraws limits and 75 ltc weekly with a 300 ltc max monthly withdraws.
I will be removing my fred flag soon as the casino so far has kept the promise.
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So far I have been able to make withdrawals everyday from the day my account was given back and not played once.
Fingers crossed it will continue like that.
glad to hear that, just curious do they have a maximum amount of withdrawal per day? if so, how many do you think you'll have to withdraw from their website? also, if they decide to stop letting you withdraw for some unknown reason they'll just dig themselves deeper and further ruin their reputation. Hi there. its 15ltc daily, 75 ltc 0er week and max 300 ltc per month. Its a long process to take all the money out bit is better than not getting the money at all ,I just hope I'll be able to take all the money out. |
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Hi Ltc casino ,I have already confirmed my account wax reopened.
Thank you.
I have made my second withdraw too.
Not more fighting please.
I appreciate your decisions to do the honest thing.
All i wanted was to get my winnings as I played honestly.
Many a days latter I have visited this topic and I am surprised to see that you have got your account back and also your withdrawal is working good. It is a very good decision of ltccasino. I think they will release all of their fund to proof that the site is a legit site which will not scam us. Though it will be difficult for us to trust this site. So far I have been able to make withdrawals everyday from the day my account was given back and not played once. Fingers crossed it will continue like that. |
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Very happy to see your funds were released OP. Honestly, I'm shocked.
Stay strong and don't make a single bet. Log in, make daily withdraw, log out.
honestly? Me too! I will not! Thanks again to everyone. I will update everyone once all the funds are withdrawn and I will close this thread as resolved. I congrats on getting your funds, that's a very good thing, but keep in mind that it's best to stay away from casinos for many years, use your money in the real world to buy things and don't use it for gambling. about the negative feedback i will remove it once you have received all your money Thank you and yes! I'll stay away for sure and once I get all the funds I'll remove the red flag and ill ask everyone if they could remove it too. So far I have been able to make daily withdraws which I'm very pleased! Hopefully it lasts till the last ltc |
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Very happy to see your funds were released OP. Honestly, I'm shocked.
Stay strong and don't make a single bet. Log in, make daily withdraw, log out.
honestly? Me too! I will not! Thanks again to everyone. I will update everyone once all the funds are withdrawn and I will close this thread as resolved. I |
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Dear ltc casino.
Thanks for your decision.
Really appreciate it.
I would like to know if I could make a single withdraw and have my account closed as I have explained previously I have a gambling addiction and in a ideal world after waiting 3 months for the investigation to end my winnings became less than half due the crypto fluctuations.
It was your own decigion to play for crypto so there is no any our responsibility for cryptocurrency exchange rate. I guess if it raised you did not say you do not like it. We are not able to pay your winnings in one single transaction as you wish. We have our rules and you agreed with our rules once started playing (including withdrawal limits). Also we can not froze your account because of casino anonymity (and as I know you said you are not ready for KYC process). So not any your accounts can be locked on your demand. That is the rule. (not from LTC, but my own personal opinion - few weeks ago you asked to refund your deposits and said you will be happy if LTC will do that. Now all your winnings are being paid and you are still unhappy and ask LTC to avoid casino rules and pay you instantly out of the limits))) LTCCasino still thinks that this is a fraudulent case.
Softswiss also confirmed that the win is not legit.
But now the player can withdraw his money as there is not enough evidence of fraud...
What a ridiculous outcome. The paranoia of the LTCCasino management was ruining the casino's reputation during the last three months and now nothing will help to clean it up.
We have T&C. And we follow it. Three month period is over - we pay. It was our right to take this time for investigation, so we did not break any rule. It is good to see that LTC Casino decided to unfreeze customer funds and allow him to withdraw them, but I don't trust them until I see confirmation from user bambolina.
LTC Casino is now blaming one of their partners and game provider Wazdan for bug, and they didn't prove anything so I could say that SoftSwiss was wrong.
Bambolina's account is opened and he is able to withdraw his funds. It is up to him to confirm it or to keep silence. If you read the thread you could find that Wazdan is keeping silence. they do not answer our questions. We take responsibility for offering this provider's games in our casino in past and we pay winnings. Now it is not possible to get documetary proofs of Wazdan's bug (cos they to not cooperate). As I said before - we did not break any rule of our casino. We took three months for investigation and now we pay. Hi Ltc casino ,I have already confirmed my account wax reopened. Thank you. I have made my second withdraw too. Not more fighting please. I appreciate your decisions to do the honest thing. All i wanted was to get my winnings as I played honestly. As I already mentioned many times i have gambling problems and it would have been easier to prevent me playing and squander my money. i never hided my issues and my addiction, i simply ask you if i could get paid my winnings at once. i leave that to you. Thanks again and you might not believe me but you have made a big difference in my life deciding to do what's right. |
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So you finally came to your senses and realized that if you don't have proof of wrongdoings, you can't deny a player his winnings based on your hunch.
We have always been fair casino and always paid all legal winnings. We stay sure that there was a bug on Wazdan's side. This is not proofed with documents because Wazdan is keeping silence and does not reply our questions. We take responsibility on providing Wazdan's games to our customers and as long as three-months investigation period passed, we pay. Dear ltc casino. Thanks for your decision. Really appreciate it. I would like to know if I could make a single withdraw and have my account closed as I have explained previously I have a gambling addiction and in a ideal world after waiting 3 months for the investigation to end my winnings became less than half due the crypto fluctuations. I have made the first attempt to withdraw the max daily amount of 15ltc but the transaction is still pending so far. ill be happy to remove the flag once the payment is paid in full ,either ways you decide. Thanks again. Best regards. Any update yet? Not yet. I did manage to make a daily withdrawn. Hopefully they will agree for me to take all of it at once and they can close my account. I need to heal by all this and make sure I stay away from casinos. @ltccasino is there any chance you could pay the money all at once? If not at least the first three months worth of daily cashout as I due the investigation i couldn't and ill start to withdrawn the rest daily till I will withdrawn it all. I hope this could be done . Thank you. |
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Dear ltc casino. Thanks for your decision. Really appreciate it. When u wrote all the funds are available to be withdrawn does it mean i can withdrawn the full amount? I have made the first daily withdrawn of 15 ltc and still pending. Could you pls let me know if i can actually withdrawn qll my winnings at once? Best regards. |
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So you finally came to your senses and realized that if you don't have proof of wrongdoings, you can't deny a player his winnings based on your hunch.
We have always been fair casino and always paid all legal winnings. We stay sure that there was a bug on Wazdan's side. This is not proofed with documents because Wazdan is keeping silence and does not reply our questions. We take responsibility on providing Wazdan's games to our customers and as long as three-months investigation period passed, we pay. Dear ltc casino. Thanks for your decision. Really appreciate it. I would like to know if I could make a single withdraw and have my account closed as I have explained previously I have a gambling addiction and in a ideal world after waiting 3 months for the investigation to end my winnings became less than half due the crypto fluctuations. I have made the first attempt to withdraw the max daily amount of 15ltc but the transaction is still pending so far. ill be happy to remove the flag once the payment is paid in full ,either ways you decide. Thanks again. Best regards. |
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Hi everyone, i have great news!
The ceo of ltc casino said he will pay me.
i don't want to sing victory yet as unfortunately i will belive this only once i get my winnings.
But i wanted to share this with you all first as u were so very supportive and os also thanks to each one of you that I found the strenght to pursue my battle.
Once I receive my winnings i would like to remove the red flag and i would immensely appreciate if once the matter is 100% sorted if those who supported could remove it.
All I wanted was to get what I honestly won and once I get my money I have not reason to hold begrudges.
I just hope what ltc casino ceo is true.
once I'll get pay I will cash out my money and close my crypto account and also the account here.
I need a break for it all, mostly gambling. I can spend this money on my mum's health and give her the best opportunity to talk and and move again.
it has been a very challenging 6 months for me and again I want to say thanknu to u all.
ill keep u updated if this is going to happen for real.
Best regards.
Bambolina
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@slowdeath are u asking me if I'm afraid of the government or paying taxes? I was asking this question to @saxydev. I think the casino is also owned by dama, I'm not 100% sure.Many sites that get paid to advertise ltc casino state that, but not sure is true as they don't have a license. who is dama? Funny how they claimed their 3 months investigation under their t&c ,yet they now have breached their t&c not paying me. let's think about the following: If you had a company, and in your company's TOS it would be there: "The company can delay paying salaries for up to 3 months" And the company goes 1 month without paying salaries, but in the following month they have funds to pay salaries, would an honest company, that has feelings for the workers and that also wants to preserve their reputation wait for another 2 months to pay salaries to workers even though they already have the money to pay? In the case of this casino, why would they wait 3 months for an investigation? 3 months is 90 days, what online company would take 90 days just to investigate a user's account who was playing at the casino? I don't believe that a person needs to take 90 days for this task, honestly it's absurd. Even a preliminary investigation of a plane crash that is something more complex doesn't take 90 days for them to investigate and tell the public It's clear that the problem here is that they don't have the funds to pay you, if they are honest and say they don't have the money to pay you then they will lose all customers, that's why they are adopting this strategy that they gave company X to investigate, who don't believe that game provider Z is right, then they accuse you of cheating, then they use TOS to wait 3 months, all these arguments are to buy time to get money. The problem with this strategy is that their reputation has dropped a lot and as a result they have lost customers, so without customers they can't pay you anymore Spot on! To be honest I truly believe they never had intentions to pay me as they way they acted from the beginning made no sense. Which casino block's your account and goes radio silence. I think they hoped i simply disappeared and they replied because i made enough noise ,yet started all this lies for no paying eaxcly as you said. Dama NV is the casino owner, i guess is the company. i think this Andrei must be a streamer who was given some shares to advertise their casino. If you check the way he speaks in the community gambling forum you can realise is not a stereotypical casino ceo. So many lies is unreal,he even said I send a cyber attack to his site and sent them fake authority emails!!! As if !! He really tried to paint as this amazing haker!! As if i had so many skills i would have been here still fighting! At this point I would have accept my total deposits if he admitted the casino couldn't afford to pay but i guess they can afford that either! |
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@slowdeath are u asking me if I'm afraid of the government or paying taxes? Because i do not, i pay taxes ,work and not criminal record. I'm a normal citizen.
I have requested to casino guru to get in touch with SoftSwiss to see if is true that they are investigating.
At this point I have zero trust as they have lied so many times.
Once they will let me know I'll have not other choices than report them everywhere i can.
I think the casino is also owned by dama ,I'm not 100% sure.Many sites that get paid to advertise ltc casino state that, but not sure is true as they don't have a license.
Funny how they claimed their 3 months investigation under their t&c ,yet they now have breached their t&c not paying me.
They literally accused me of so many things ,soon they will accused for natural disasters too.
I really thought they would have eventually pay me once game provider and casino guru done the checks and confirmed my honesty. Again they went silent !
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