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October 30, 2021, 01:52:37 AM
Last edit: April 26, 2023, 03:11:00 AM by PaperWallet
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Alright. I will be following the advice of many senior members here, and I will create a scam accusation. It's an awful way to deal with a big win. I will be posting screenshots of my bet history.

Edit: up to this day, on the 8th of may 2022, I am still unpaid.

All screenshots here are per time order. I do not have to talk a lot. Just look at the screenshots and see how 120,000 dollars disappeared from my account. See how the bets went from pending to win to "cancelled"!!!! See how my bet history goes from I can see all bets with all details, now I can see there are bets with amounts but details can't be shown (!) to I have no bet history!!!!

In order for you to not be confused because there are multiple bets, the 4 disputed bets are the ones placed at 21:19, 21:20, 21:22 and 21:24. Right on the left of these times you see a blue clock icon which means bets are awaiting result. Then you see a green sign which means bets have won (the red X means they lost). And lastly the orange dash means bets were cancelled. The total win amounts to 200,000 euros, the only winning bet paid was the one placed at 21:19 amounting to 95,000 euros, and the 3 others were "cancelled".

If you think something I said doesn't add up, please do not hesitate to ask for additional proof, I will happily be giving that to you.

Edit: For those of you who are lost in the evidence posted below, I have added the bet history in writing just below the screenshots. I have also took away some unnecessary screenshots and kept only the essentials.






















To illustrate the photos:

For the following I will call:
Match A: Heidenheim vs Schalke, a match that started on the 29th of october at 20h30, and that resulted in a win for Heidenheim 1-0, with a goal scored at minute 89
Match B: PSG vs Lille, a match that started on the 29th of october at 23h00, and that resulted in a score of 0-1 for Lille at half-time (and 2-1 for PSG at full time, on which I had other bets that lost and that I don't mention here)

All 4 bets were placed on the 29th of october 2021. Each bet placed was a combination of 2 events, so the bet odds were a multiplier of the odds for each event:

1-Bet of 20 XMR (~4750 euros) placed at 21h19, with odds of 20.48 on:
Match A: Heidenheim wins for "full time result" (odds of 3.2)
and
Match B: Lille wins for "first half result" (odds of 6.4)

2-Bet of 1.96 XMR (~475 euros) placed at 21h20, with odds of 20.48 on:
Match A: Heidenheim wins for "full time result" (odds of 3.2)
and
Match B: Lille wins for "first half result" (odds of 6.4)

3-Bet of 20 XMR (~4750 euros) placed at 21h22, with odds of 19.84 on:
Match A: Heidenheim wins for "which team wins the rest of the match" (odds of 3.2)
and
Match B: Lille wins for "first half result" (odds of 6.2)

4-Bet of 2.61 XMR (~500 euros) placed at 21h24, with odds of 20.42 on:
Match A: Heidenheim wins for "which team wins the rest of the match"
and
Match B: Lille wins for "first half result"


FortuneJack waited for the outcome of the bets then cancelled bets 2,3 and 4 claiming they were identical to bet 1.
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October 30, 2021, 02:29:10 AM
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Include also the Screenshot of your conversation to there support so that we can follow on how they assess your problem before we completely jump into conclusion. I notice that there's a separate bet on same odds with 40+ and 400+ XRM. Is that with a same parlay bet?



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October 30, 2021, 02:30:14 AM
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You should upload your screenshot and use BBcode to attach them in your post.

Click on links of your screenshots to check them is inconvenient and it's hard to follow with 10 images.

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October 30, 2021, 02:43:38 AM
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Include also the Screenshot of your conversation to there support so that we can follow on how they assess your problem before we completely jump into conclusion. I notice that there's a separate bet on same odds with 40+ and 400+ XRM. Is that with a same parlay bet?




I will include screenshots of my conversation with support, and will upload them here with BBCode (will try). The big bets I placed them because each time I try to place a big bet the system tells me "max bet is....., do you accept?" I click yes, then same "max bet is...." basically because of small odds changes. So I got fed up with this and placed a bet that is a little bit less than max bet then completed the small amount for the rest.
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October 30, 2021, 03:25:16 AM
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I am getting "Bitcoin.Talk image proxy, invalid image" with BBCode (followed all steps with Imgur and everything). Sorry didn't work:( I am putting back those links with in addition my conversation with support.

I will be trying other options tomorrow, I am basically getting a headache and should go to sleep, what a hell of a day. You're not supposed to go through this when you win big. I would have been more peaceful if I had lost... Go to sleep for God's sake.
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October 30, 2021, 03:43:15 AM
Last edit: October 31, 2021, 11:02:27 AM by noorman0
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I am getting "Bitcoin.Talk image proxy, invalid image" with BBCode (followed all steps with Imgur and everything). Sorry didn't work:( I am putting back those links with in addition my conversation with support.

You don't need to include the url code, just use the image code. And you should adjust the size, so as not to make other people's eyes hurt.

Use this code
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Preview:


Edit:
Or you can take the code directly from imgur without changing or adding any more code


Note: I will edit my post so as not to mess up the topic after @OP inserts the image correctly

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October 30, 2021, 04:40:22 AM
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I am getting "Bitcoin.Talk image proxy, invalid image" with BBCode (followed all steps with Imgur and everything). Sorry didn't work:( I am putting back those links with in addition my conversation with support.

You don't need to include the url code, just use the image code. And you should adjust the size, so as not to make other people's eyes hurt.

Use this code
Code:
[img width=600]_insert_your_image_link_here_with_the_extension_[/img]

Preview:


Edit:
Or you can take the code directly from imgur without changing or adding any more code


Note: I will edit my post so as not to mess up the topic after @OP inserts the image correctly

Thks had some other issues but all in order now
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October 30, 2021, 07:08:21 AM
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You proabably bankrupted fuck out of the casino and now they are in panic thinking about creative ways of scamming you without making much noise.

We should listen to them first though. Maybe they 'll make it right and I was wrong.

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October 30, 2021, 08:25:09 AM
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You proabably bankrupted fuck out of the casino and now they are in panic thinking about creative ways of scamming you without making much noise.

We should listen to them first though. Maybe they 'll make it right and I was wrong.

Seems he has pretty strong evidence here. Now, we wait from FJ.
Can they resolve this and not resort to looking for some loopholes?
They have very good reputation so hopefully they will resolve this promptly.
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October 30, 2021, 09:23:10 AM
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What is the current status of the bet? Is it void,cancelled or lost?

Only thing that might raise eyebrows is that you 2X the max limit, as the two selections in the Schalke match are technically the same.
That said, they should defiantly pay up for both bets (and instead boot you for being a unwanted customer in the future).

You should should edit/blur some of your screenshots as your name/outlook is showing.

Good luck!
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October 30, 2021, 09:29:40 AM
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What is the current status of the bet? Is it void,cancelled or lost?

Only thing that might raise eyebrows is that you 2X the max limit, as the two selections in the Schalke match are technically the same.
That said, they should defiantly pay up for both bets (and instead boot you for being a unwanted customer in the future).

You should should edit/blur some of your screenshots as your name/outlook is showing.

Good luck!

As you can see on the later screenshot. Fortune delete all the bet history of that said betslip to remove evidence. I don't want to conclude without any response from FJ here but the main reason of this thread is because FJ didn't pay him on the bet that he made as you can see on first screenshot then remove it on his history so OP can't provide details on the status of that bet.



800XRM is a very huge amount that can't be neglect as OP is providing solid proof so far. I'm curious on what is the content of reply of there support. Maybe they are resolving this already in the background.

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October 30, 2021, 09:55:01 AM
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What is the current status of the bet? Is it void,cancelled or lost?

Only thing that might raise eyebrows is that you 2X the max limit, as the two selections in the Schalke match are technically the same.
That said, they should defiantly pay up for both bets (and instead boot you for being a unwanted customer in the future).

You should should edit/blur some of your screenshots as your name/outlook is showing.

Good luck!

As you can see on the later screenshot. Fortune delete all the bet history of that said betslip to remove evidence. I don't want to conclude without any response from FJ here but the main reason of this thread is because FJ didn't pay him on the bet that he made as you can see on first screenshot then remove it on his history so OP can't provide details on the status of that bet.



800XRM is a very huge amount that can't be neglect as OP is providing solid proof so far. I'm curious on what is the content of reply of there support. Maybe they are resolving this already in the background.

Not only did they remove those bets, they just wiped out clean as well all of my remaining (unrelated, mainly on NBA) bets. I had like 12 pending remaining bets (smaller ones), but who knows maybe I won some more, I did not check those yet. Typical of criminal behaviour who wipes out clean all crime scene....
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October 30, 2021, 10:15:20 AM
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Did you try to make any bets after they wiped all your bet history just for the sake kf finding they are showing or not?

Its really a serious issue which can ruin the reputation of FJ and this hasn't been the first time we see accusations against them whenever someone won huge amount, just curious about what is going to be there reply for this?

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October 30, 2021, 10:21:47 AM
Last edit: November 01, 2021, 06:44:33 PM by mprep
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Did you try to make any bets after they wiped all your bet history just for the sake kf finding they are showing or not?

Its really a serious issue which can ruin the reputation of FJ and this hasn't been the first time we see accusations against them whenever someone won huge amount, just curious about what is going to be there reply for this?

Lol of course not. I just immediately panicked-cashed out what was left. I mean if my withdrawal addresses were just ready I would have cashed out all 899 XMR.

How did those accusations after big wins end? Were they similar (where they just wipe out the balance of a player) or just some cashout hardships?



You proabably bankrupted fuck out of the casino and now they are in panic thinking about creative ways of scamming you without making much noise.

We should listen to them first though. Maybe they 'll make it right and I was wrong.

If this is a casino in the crypto space since 2013 and they panic for this..... What are you leaving for the other websites? I think I was playing with some of the most trusted casinos out there. Now if you aren't going to get paid when you win big, then this would hurt all centralized casinos out there. Never in my mind I thought 250k would be a big amount in their eyes.

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October 30, 2021, 11:53:13 AM
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PaperWallet are you always recording your screen activity when you are betting online and I am wondering why, maybe because something like this happened to you before or...?

It does look weird, but few explanations for this would be if they detected you are using proton vpn or because breaking their terms and using some kind of arbitrage software.
I would however like to see new reply and explanation from their support before speculating or saying something more.

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October 30, 2021, 01:08:43 PM
Last edit: October 30, 2021, 01:32:58 PM by PaperWallet
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PaperWallet are you always recording your screen activity when you are betting online and I am wondering why, maybe because something like this happened to you before or...?

It does look weird, but few explanations for this would be if they detected you are using proton vpn or because breaking their terms and using some kind of arbitrage software.
I would however like to see new reply and explanation from their support before speculating or saying something more.

No, only when I make large bets. We've seen the best of companies in crypto go rogue, so I do not feel comfortable not having a proof and I like the support of the community. And if you read my post yes in blackjack the dealer ended up hitting my 20 (!!) after I had made an early stand decision (basically the button did not take it) and I have no proof of that.

Arbitrage software.... I do not know what that means, but let me tell you: In the span of one hour, I've been trying to make bets on every sort of event, always the underdog team because I want higher odds (which were each time rejected because of max limits). When I finally got lucky placing my bet I won.... Now they participated in that luck since they rejected those previous bets and I would have lost them. Now that they finally accepted these bets, it's time for them to pay up.
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October 30, 2021, 04:23:42 PM
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Did you try to make any bets after they wiped all your bet history just for the sake kf finding they are showing or not?

Its really a serious issue which can ruin the reputation of FJ and this hasn't been the first time we see accusations against them whenever someone won huge amount, just curious about what is going to be there reply for this?

Lol of course not. I just immediately panicked-cashed out what was left. I mean if my withdrawal addresses were just ready I would have cashed out all 899 XMR.

How did those accusations after big wins end? Were they similar (where they just wipe out the balance of a player) or just some cashout hardships?
I asked to find, whether they put your account on hold or not?

In the past those big wins were processed after long discussions from the community if I am not wrong hope this case also end same as those.

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October 30, 2021, 04:46:45 PM
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Did you try to make any bets after they wiped all your bet history just for the sake kf finding they are showing or not?

Its really a serious issue which can ruin the reputation of FJ and this hasn't been the first time we see accusations against them whenever someone won huge amount, just curious about what is going to be there reply for this?

Lol of course not. I just immediately panicked-cashed out what was left. I mean if my withdrawal addresses were just ready I would have cashed out all 899 XMR.

How did those accusations after big wins end? Were they similar (where they just wipe out the balance of a player) or just some cashout hardships?
I asked to find, whether they put your account on hold or not?

In the past those big wins were processed after long discussions from the community if I am not wrong hope this case also end same as those.

No. I can still connect, view my transaction history, click on deposit and get my deposit addresses (why not lol). The only thing that's missing is my sportsbets with all the money that were with them, including the 460 XMR bet won and all the other sportsbets that were pending that I did not even bother for now to check if they were won or lost.
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The amount is not small, damn just give it to me. Lol  Grin

A site of this size does history deletion, it's terrible and it's no small matter, you'll lose everything if you don't get it back. You are quite careful with making all the evidence quite valid and not missing a single bit. Or is it because the big stakes make you record everything. Does that mean you have preconceived notions or prejudices if at any time the casino makes a mistake, your funds are ready with all the evidence?

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October 30, 2021, 05:58:44 PM
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The amount is not small, damn just give it to me. Lol  Grin

A site of this size does history deletion, it's terrible and it's no small matter, you'll lose everything if you don't get it back. You are quite careful with making all the evidence quite valid and not missing a single bit. Or is it because the big stakes make you record everything. Does that mean you have preconceived notions or prejudices if at any time the casino makes a mistake, your funds are ready with all the evidence?

I mean can you imagine when I withdraw 120,000 dollars worth of crypto on my account, you've got nothing to say on what address you are withdrawing. No email. It doesn't even appear on your account. What if some rogue operator transferred that amount to a wallet of his and say "We paid". It would be your word against theirs. Or what if they deleted your history. I would feel terrible about myself if I couldn't provide any evidence. Just as I did when hit "stand" on that blackjack hand of a total 20 and ended up getting a card anyway.

I would have never expected something like this to happen but what I did served me well.
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