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1  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Never invest in any cryptocurrencies! on: October 09, 2020, 06:51:27 AM
Cryptocurrency is one of the best investment tools today but many people are losing money due to lack of knowledge and wrong mindset. what they have in mind is that crypto can make it rich fast. in fact that is not true, investing takes time and other problems that they stay focused on the reward and do not think about the risks.

yes, people keep telling themselves that it will work we will double the money, ignoring any realistic analytics or predictions.

it is human nature, not something related to the crypto, in every field we hate to say that there is a percentage to lose something.
but tbh if we keep looking at the bad side or smth this will let us not move 1 step ahead and stay in the comfort zone forever
2  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin might never reach it's ATH anymore on: October 09, 2020, 06:11:14 AM
Bitcoin could double in price, but if your currency loses half it's purchasing power, it's point-less.

Pricing Bitcoin in fiat is silly in these times - the money printers are hot. 1 BTC = 1 BTC - stack as many sats as you can.

Bitcoin will suck in all the world's fiat value, you just have to be patient.

It's not a conspiracy, it's math. All fiat currencies trend to zero from here. This entire system of trash is going to collapse.

Keep buying Bitcoin, eat well & keep fit - the next wave is coming. Dark times ahead, you want to be prepared.

Don't give your BTC away for shitty DeFi projects, hold your coins on a hardware wallet - chill.

If your friends want to protest about their corrupt government, tell them to buy Bitcoin.

Every dollar exited into Bitcoin, is power back to the people.

optimistic is not enough to describe your great passion, but I respect it and kinda agree with it.

i just can't be 100% sure that it will be soon enough and I will see it before I die Cheesy


this system will collapse and a new system will rise, this will be like in sci-fi movies where we depend on some of the remaining technologies and I can''t find better than crypto transactions to be the way we make deals
3  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Never invest in any cryptocurrencies! on: September 09, 2020, 04:46:58 PM
Friends i introduced crypto to hit up on me everyday, asking me all sort of questions like "why is this thing taking this long to go up?" and to be sincere, am kind of tired of telling them to be patient, that good things take time.

This is the kind of world we find our selves today, everyone and everybody are all in a hurry to make money, to the extent that most of them even end up missing opportunities which they would have made a fortune from if only they were patient enough.

it is a good thing for experienced elder ones, we know that losing for someone means winning for another they will understand that one day or run out of money but more will keep joining, the market is in increasing not decreasing

we are all winning, we win money they earn experience
4  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin might never reach it's ATH anymore on: September 09, 2020, 04:36:19 PM
Hello to all. You can say anything - that Bitcoin may never reach its ATH again, that Bitcoin will go much higher. One thing is clear - only time will tell who is right. The only thing I am sure of is that when Bitcoin reaches new highs or new lows, it will happen against the opinion of the mainstream crowd and will be completely unexpected. It is unexpectedness and unpredictability that I like about Bitcoin.

that was a long but almost a correct, describing for the situation, we will never be able to predict the future of BTC with more than 10% of accuracy I think it is much lower and we can't know a lot of factors to understand and increase this percentage as we can't store and analyze that much of data in our small tiny brains
5  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin might never reach it's ATH anymore on: August 31, 2020, 12:01:21 PM
The truth is no one can guess if Bitcoin will rich ATH one day or not. All predictions are probably bad shots, but it doesn't make a sense.

never say never Cheesy

if none can guess if the BTC going to reach ATH or not, this is a simple question with yes and no, some will say yes and some will say no, this simply means some will be right as some will be wrong

but TBH none knows WHEN will it reach ATH, some can guess and be correct, but not based on evidence just by luck.
6  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Never invest in any cryptocurrencies! on: August 31, 2020, 11:37:01 AM
I think investing in new coins depends on your luck, it is riskier than coins that are already listed on the top market but it could be the other way around. but I know that investing takes a long time and of course investing in crypto doesn't get rich quick.

Don't indulge in negative thinking. If you want to invest in any cryptocurrency, then do proper research and study about it. So many resources are available online and doing so is not that tedious. On the other hand, if you expect luck to help then you may lose your capital and face financial ruin. I agree that luck is also needed. But that part will come after you do what needs to be done.

exactly, good profits are here, it is also a market mostly fair which can't be manipulated easily especially in top coins allows you to work hard to win unlike forex fake trading you have your assets in your hands and any mistake is on you due to rushing or proceeding with not enough knowledge, and some rely on scams which obviously you will be avoiding if you start on top coins or legit projects with good teams with the older project which have a higher potential of cource
7  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin might never reach it's ATH anymore on: August 24, 2020, 02:36:11 PM
You never knows what may happen on crypto market. Too hard to predict price even after month and you are talking about "ever"

you can, but not 100% correctly, you can learn, and be lucky to make your predictions more accurate. nothing impossible.
but you can say that it is almost impossible to make it 100% accurate.
8  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Never invest in any cryptocurrencies! on: August 24, 2020, 02:12:41 PM
the truth is that the way newbies are invited is the get rich quick way by new projects , advertises and influencers. now the real intent of crypto needs to be preached and practised such way but this is a huge task. this should start with the current crypto holders and investors and then the newbies will follow suit.

it is the marketer's tricks and the foolishness of some type of people, some newbies come to learn and understand the market maybe testing in low budgets.
it is about the mentality of each person, not a general rule.

from our side as an old adopter and somehow experienced old investors we should share our knowledge to help newcomers and this will return on us by making the market more healthy
9  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Never invest in any cryptocurrencies! on: August 18, 2020, 01:36:35 PM
never ?, are you sure?, look at the cryptocurrency market now and compare it with the stock market,
the conclusion is you will regret, if you dont invest in cryptocurrencies!
not really. If you invest predictably and without the support of clear information on new coins, I would be better off holding my assets than investing. however, in the crypto world, we cannot be in a hurry and invest in altcoins randomly. however, we need to choose it so that there is no loss. besides, everything requires patience, because this is not something that can make you rich quick as the author of this thread said.


exactly, but you also need to define "quick" this can mean 1 day for me Smiley few hours for someone else, to maximize profit there are many factors some are controllable and some are not, these factors are not only responsible of maximizing your profit but also to minimize the risk (both risk of loss and risk of getting poor quick Cheesy )

1. timing
2. luck
3. coin you choose
4. knowledge about trading in general and in crypto specifically
5. budget

remind me if I forgot something, but these are the main factors in my mind.
10  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin might never reach it's ATH anymore on: August 18, 2020, 06:55:42 AM
If whales want then everything is possible, you know. Current market situation is good for the futher growth
We could say that they have such influence on the market and they can able to manipulate the situation but we don't even wonder why they never left crypto instead of going back to stock market investment? It is because they love crypto and that we called manipulation is only has a slim chance that could make a bullish or even bearish market trend.

(Maybe) We can't either see another ATH again but it is not the most important to us. What we are looking for now is to have a sustainable market demand and adoption. Bullish will come momentarily even without the whale's participation.


tbh I think it will definitely reach ATH again. this will need some time till the market holders get changed and people a bit forget about the last ATH and how a lot have lost as much as many made profits.

history will always repeat itself, this is a fixed rule as the fact of death. both can't be denied
11  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Someone booked a hotel using bitcoin on: August 18, 2020, 05:56:07 AM
what if the prices were high, and I paid the price of a couple of nights cost due to the low price of BTC in the market now.
this means I don't benefit from having a small transaction fee.

i don't like the idea of having BTC in daily use more than being an asset for investing
12  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin might never reach it's ATH anymore on: August 13, 2020, 09:15:56 AM
I disagree on that cause i still believe that bitcoin can go back to its last ATH this year and make another record high next year. Bitcoin is so powerful asset.

the first jump was mostly caused by non-crypto guys who saw a big small jump and kept buying in BTC and by that time most known coin was BTC and yet it is but it is not the best solution too, but the new ones in the market only know it, this can be repeated, and if it gets repeated will be higher than before, but it has a lower chance, I expected it to rise during a pandemic but instead, people went for gold as usual.

the point is we will never know because it is the biggest use that it is placed on all changes, and high market cap and thousands of different wallets, and now ATMs.

the difference is now bitcoin shares all its fame and integrations with thousands of altcoins it is weaker than before. and harder to reach but still possible, who knows?
13  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Never invest in any cryptocurrencies! on: August 13, 2020, 08:54:20 AM
investing in crypto carries a high risk could suffer a big loss but if you are ready to accept the risk then investing can be done because those who understand and have skills in the field of crypto investment will easily get profit
it is important to understand that high risks are also very high returns. the main thing is to make a correct analysis of the direction in which you want to invest money.
If you only choose coins in top 10-20 then I think it's not too big risk that we will face. Indeed, investing in Crypto is a very high risk if you choose Hype coins, which have a pump and dump. Some beginners like hype coins, because they think it will be easy to get profit.

this can be like levels in games, by the time you get older in market you may dive deeper in the list, making potentially more profit if you have the enough experience and funds, of course, it is a broad rule in the investment you should always invest using spare money to be able to lose it without losing your life. this makes your trade with a better clearer mind and calmer head.

but if your level goes up and you stay on the top 10-20 of the list, you can still make a better profit than you were doing in the past with your lower level Wink


I loved the part of describing it in levels as games, it is how I have been always seeing it, I am a gamer too, all my day is trading and gaming. I know a lot of gamers successful in trading, there is a connection IDK what it is but it is a common factor between some of the successful traders, maybe because in games we are trading virtually too Cheesy IDK but I love it trading in crypto and in games
14  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Will You Trust a Project Announce BY A Legendary Member on: August 13, 2020, 08:40:04 AM
Legendary members mean huge experience has from the all forum. At least you can't ignore any of the legendary members' projects announced. yahoo62278 and Hhampuz are more than legendary members. Actually often they announce BTC payment campaign. But we should apply our own theory before joining any campaign, we can't blame others for our wrong research.
yes we should not ignore them because they have their own experience to publish an ann project that will not reduce their trust
but maybe I will believe more if the project is published by a donated or admin account, what about you?
There are only a few Legendary ranks can be trusted when managing a Bounty project, many of them also manage Scam projects even though they are Legendary rank. What we are afraid is when a developer buys a Legendary rank to convince his project to us.

exactly, there is no rule, it is all risky, with levels, yea legendary ANN is less scam risk but not 100% scam free or safe, that is the conclusion of all this discussion
15  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin might never reach it's ATH anymore on: August 10, 2020, 09:35:22 AM
Basically, the possibility of Bitcoin getting ATH is very big. We know that the halving years made Bitcoin mining even more difficult. And we know that mining costs are not small. I am sure that going forward, with Bitcoin being difficult to mine, it will make changes to the interest and price of BTC.
But, don't easily believe this theory. Because everyone has a different view.  Cool

exactly, the problem is we always tend to believe what we want to happen, ignoring the other side of view. if you want to really know and understand what is going to happen (which is almost impossible because you won't have the time and resources or access to analyze every small side will be affecting the market)

so, no matter how strong are the signs that it will go up or down you need to be sure that there is always another side of the story, another side of the coin, which can be flipped anytime, and then you would have nothing.

in the same time, you need to prepare and accepting such facts to know if you are truly able to take such shock or won't be able to survive it.
16  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Never invest in any cryptocurrencies! on: August 10, 2020, 07:18:17 AM
It is seen that a large part of the investors invest without realizing it, especially investing in scandalous projects. Eventually the project collapsed and all their money was lost. But it seems to me that those who understand cryptocurrency know that they can get rich quick from here. It is not possible to acquire assets so quickly from any business or work or financial institution other than cryptocurrency. So I think those who are in or investing in the crypto world should know more about this, be proactive and invest wisely.

yes, this is the point, why do people would take the risk if they are not 100% sure that it is going to make them get rich quick if it succeeds
same as people who risk their lives and invest or trade-in Prohibitions

it is the same everywhere we like bright things at the top of the pyramids and forget about how hard is to climb it

not always right not a broad rule, I like trading and enjoying it in games, and in crypto anything being traded online I like buying and selling it. increasing my capital normally yes I do increase it no matter how small I start each time.

everyone has a different motivation, can be true that the big part of investors in crypto world, especially new ones are here for getting rich quickly too.
17  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Never invest in any cryptocurrencies! on: July 31, 2020, 05:46:28 AM
Cryptos can be a nice long term and also passive way of earning an income but we need to be realistic and look at CRYPTO as a way to grow and diversify our savings, as having now FIAT in the Bank only devalues and gets less and less useful as it goes down. I also think that there are some great projects that we can interact with and have great utility like TRAVALA for example which has ways for us to book our travel through CRYPTO and this is a huge use case for us all in the CRYPTOSPHERE. Demand for the token keeps growing as we lock up and earn rewards and discounts. Amazing stuff coming by tokenization of assets and business.

yes, it is more important to encourage such projects, tokenization and blockchain itself has a huge list of applications to be made to make very good use of this technology, Crowdfunding, Donations, supporting, traveling and e-commerce, moving money through countries too it is making a huge difference in transfer fees compared to fiat money.

BTC have no interesting applications, but it is just as gold between other metals and whenever it goes down you are 100% sure that it will rise again sooner or later.
altcoins are more based on the solution they provide and how helpful, new and complete it is, because a lot of companies kept making ICOs for projects that have no MVP yet just describing the project and getting funds
18  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Never invest in any cryptocurrencies! on: July 29, 2020, 04:34:05 PM
Yes, I agreed that majority of the community here in the forum are too lack of knowledge where in the end most of them always ended up into
loss of their assets. And sometimes because there are people here who are greedy, due to they want to earn fast without giving any effort of their investment. Even they know that there is no shortcut for us here to earn big in a short period of time.

yes some lack knowledge and some are greedy but that is how it is going in every other invenstment opportunity, there is always a greedy or with low experience and just heared about a trend and wants to ride the waves.

sooner or later if he gets even rich by luck if he doesn't stop this approch he will end up with the same low assets and maybe even without the low assests he started with.

I disagree with both of you, people normally know that risk = more profit, in crypto it is a bit high and in same time so beneficial, that is why people like investing in crypto, and if i am not investing to get rich why i would invest? getting rich is 1 good motivational reason for investing, but i like investing for helping creators, i get in return a better content. it is like win-win situation.
19  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Some priceless tokens. on: July 29, 2020, 06:24:17 AM
I think what you need to do is to be watchful of the kind of tokens you buy or get as a reward. Not all tokens will get listed on an exchange. There is time that some dev and team just want to test their idea on blockchain and they just need people to do that, after that they drop the project.

i totally agree, you should ALWAYS check the team, check the project details and most important is to check the team or company's past projects, do they abandon old ideas fast? do they have like long time support for couple of projects/service

no matter how small or big this is, but the history thing is really important, some very rare times team will be their first succeding project, but would you really afford to invest in such small opportunities, most of us can't so better take lower risks with old teams, because big risks here means losing 100% of capital
20  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Never invest in any cryptocurrencies! on: July 27, 2020, 07:15:07 PM
Excaly, if we invest in crypto from our salary bonus then i think crypto can possibly going good position but also we need to understand whare we invest! Which project can give us profit, also we need to understand what is crypto! Any random people can't make money without understand!           
the rise and fall in the prices of cryptocurrency assets is indeed terrible, today many altcoins are down to 15%,
just imagine if you invest a lot, maybe this is what makes people afraid

yes, this is exactly what makes many afraid and looking differently to investing in cryptocurrencies.

in general if you invest in a company it is mostly stable, and going slightly up by time if it is a good one and sometimes slightly down, more often it is going up and most of its jumps going up, rarely going down as in a crisis like a pandemic, but this is happening so rarely, and also many other business grow and even blow up as zoom app and many others.

but in crypto, specially coins with no specific purpose or service it is much harder to predict why it goes up or down and it is almost randomly changing between very high and very low.

i would recommend investing in altcoins connecting to trusted services as assets in the company, not in crypto in general even in BTC specially if you are a new investor with limited resources, you should always go for more safer shelter with spending part of your money of course.
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