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1  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Swappa.io Soft Launch / User Base on: March 24, 2021, 02:33:11 AM
I had no idea they have an open scam accusation against them.
I strongly believe that it's more than just a single accusation [I'm not even counting the accusations in other places].

~Snipped~
I know our intentions and I know they are not malicious. That is why we can be trusted.
How can you be sure about their real intentions when you're an intermediary?
- You might want to take the time and read some of the accusations against them, then come back to this thread and comment if you still believe that they could be trusted.

If users are transacting smaller amounts without illegal intentions, (such as laundering money, some sort of tax evasion, etc) then no one has anything to worry about.
How can you identify/classify someone else's intentions based only on their transactions [assuming you're dealing with small TXs only]?

How can even a minuscule amount of the world's daily trading get funneled through swappa.io?
ChangeNOW offers an affiliate package with a turn-key operation that allows anyone to operate an exchange.
Perhaps there might be a slight chance if you ditch ChangeNOW [and their sister's websites] and restart with an alternative platform [reputable one] that offers a similar affiliate package.

In regards to the accusation, it is old and has since been closed. It is not open. You might want to take a look at how gigantic ChangeNOW is and realize they would not be around if they are ripping people off. They have a 4.5 star rating on TrustPilot with over 2,600 reviews.

I am talking about my intentions, not ChangeNOW's in that specific instant.

I do not have to identify/classify someone else's intentions based only on their transactions. That is up to ChangeNOW.

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So In other words you admit that you are not an anonymous cryptocurrency exchange as stated in the OP?
Because if you are, then there should be 100% guarantee that no one will be asked KYC documents. There is a no-in-between. Either you are an anonymous exchange or not.

Even Binance allows users to transact 2 BTC per day minus KYC, but I haven't seen them claim anywhere that they are an anonymous exchange.

Binance allows users to transact 2 BTC per day per your word, but you need an account in the first place. Of course they don't claim anywhere that they are anonymous. You do not need an account on Swappa, but you do on Binance. Do you see the difference?

Anonymous. How easily misused this term is now. If your service can [not won't] ask for:
- personal information to identify the person
- connecting information to identify location and device...

you can't claim to be anonymous.

If your site wishes to comply with FinCEN, then it's very difficult to see how you can provide anonymous accounts, you can't pick and choose, or can you? FinCEN really really doesn't like FIs providing anon accounts.l

I do not have to pick and choose anything, as stated above. All of those aspects are taken care of through ChangeNOW.

It's pretty simple to see how we provide anonymous transactions. You do not need to create an account. There is no email for signup, no phone number for verification, no 2FA with Authy...Nothing. You hit the landing page of our site, deposit whatever coin you are looking to exchange, and the coin you want to exchange for pops into your destination address.

It's quite awkward that you exchange is a clone of very many other exchanges. Why should users trust an exchange that's just a clone?

Other look like exchanges;
[...]
Welp, that's really a lot of them. I didn't search further when I saw their terms. And that's an obvious busted.


But wait, if you think you were just a victim of buying this template on cheap price of x marketplace. I suggest you to change everything on your website, promote your site, or even have a free vouch on this community. But that won't change the fact that you just copied the whole terms, I might say even the privacy policy of a scam website. And probably do things with zero effort to scam I mean to make such service.

There is nothing to bust. No one is trying to hide anything.
2  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: [Merit] Hey Bitcoiners! Can You Send Encrypted Messages? on: March 14, 2021, 07:38:28 PM
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3  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Swappa.io Soft Launch / User Base on: March 14, 2021, 06:29:13 PM
It's quite awkward that you exchange is a clone of very many other exchanges. Why should users trust an exchange that's just a clone?

Other look like exchanges;
[...]
Welp, that's really a lot of them. I didn't search further when I saw their terms. And that's an obvious busted.


But wait, if you think you were just a victim of buying this template on cheap price of x marketplace. I suggest you to change everything on your website, promote your site, or even have a free vouch on this community. But that won't change the fact that you just copied the whole terms, I might say even the privacy policy of a scam website. And probably do things with zero effort to scam I mean to make such service.

I don't think I am a victim. The template is free. The terms were copied because that's how the terms are in the free template they provide. I didn't copy them personally. That is how they are provided. There is nothing to bust to begin with. We are not trying to hide anything. You can see at the bottom of our site that we are powered through ChangeNOW.

This is also why we are partaking in a soft launch. There are things to iron out. I have used ChangeNOW in the past to convert coins and it worked for me. So, logically, if they have worked for me before, I will use their services again. Swappa is a service built through ChangeNOW.

"Changing everything on your website, promote your site, or even have a free vouch on this community."

This is why I created this thread. We are looking at what avenues to venture into on how to promote. What ideas come to your mind? Can you elaborate on what you mean by having a free vouch on this community? What should be changed on the website?

As stated in prior posts, we have no malicious intentions with Swappa. Please let me know how else I can show you that.
4  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Swappa.io Soft Launch / User Base on: March 14, 2021, 05:20:28 PM
It's quite awkward that you exchange is a clone of very many other exchanges. Why should users trust an exchange that's just a clone?

Other look like exchanges;
- https://kokaswap.com
- https://nosacapital.exchange
- https://duaexchange.com
- https://www.cryptopayway.com
- https://smartermoney.app
- https://www.moneyexchangesite.com
- https://exchange.bitcoincryptoswap.com
- https://royalarz.com
- http://dex.passioncrypto.com
- https://www.trocabit.com.br
- https://changenow.ar
- http://www.coinscan.icu
- https://change-crypto.com
- http://winnerqi.com
- https://mebitcoins.com
- http://thebitcoindomain.com
- https://thecryptopayments.com
- https://nextrade.uk
- https://changespace.io
- https://www.expresswap.com
- https://cryptochain.center
- http://coinpal.com
- https://suexchange.eu
- https://exchange.wallstreetdefi.org/
- https://xgenesis.site

You claim the exchange is anonymous, but users will still be requested to submit their KYC documents. Doesn't seem an anonymous move to me.

https://swappa.io/terms-of-use/
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3. AML/KYC Procedure

3.1. The Users don’t need to create accounts: you don’t need to register or log in to use the Website.
However, ChangeNOW uses an automated risk management system to check all the transactions made by the Users.

3.2. By accepting these Terms you agree to pass through the AML/KYC procedure, which may be applied to you or may be requested by ChangeNOW at any time.

3.3. During the AML/KYC procedure, ChangeNOW reserves the right to request additional information and documents, including but not limited to scan of your ID document valid in your country and additional information of the funds’ origin.

3.4. In limited cases (such as to verify your identity in order to pass the AML/KYC procedure), we reserve the right to freeze your exchange transaction for any period of time necessary to complete the investigation and AML/KYC procedure.

3.5. If you deny to pass through the AML/KYC procedure or don’t provide ChangeNOW with the requested documents and information, ChangeNOW has the right to refuse to execute your transactions (current and future).

I wouldn't call it awkward. ChangeNOW is how Swappa.io and every single other exchange in that list operates. ChangeNOW offers an affiliate package with a turn-key operation that allows anyone to operate an exchange. I cannot speak for any of those websites, but I know our intentions and I know they are not malicious. That is why we can be trusted.

In regards to your KYC / AML findings in our terms, that clause states the right is reserved. That does not mean documents WILL be requested. It means we can, only if necessary. If someone starts exchanging $40,000 weekly, for example, that can possibly be a red flag, and there is no choice but to investigate these transactions. FinCEN is no joke. We could go to prison for money laundering if we turned a blind eye to a situation like that.

If users are transacting smaller amounts without illegal intentions, (such as laundering money, some sort of tax evasion, etc) then no one has anything to worry about. If user's exchanges comply with FinCEN, no KYC / AML documents will be requested.

If this can be better stated in the terms, please let me know and I will change them. Thank you.
5  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Swappa.io Soft Launch / User Base on: March 14, 2021, 05:07:55 PM
Did you just copied the terms of ChangeNow.io?

Or its another website of the owner of changenow? which has open scam accusation that is accused of illegally holding of 100 BCH (11 bitcoins).

Archive swappa terms: https://archive.is/ZphMA
Archive changenow terms: https://archive.is/2YtGE


We are not the owners of ChangeNOW. Our exchange is run through them, though, so our terms and conditions are the same. I have edited the terms and conditions with our name instead of theirs. We are an intermediary, but separate entities.

I had no idea they have an open scam accusation against them.
6  Economy / Service Discussion / Swappa.io Soft Launch / User Base on: March 14, 2021, 04:06:08 PM
Hello all,

We have just launched https://swappa.io, an accountless and anonymous cryptocurrency exchange. An official ANN thread will be unveiled in the near future.

We are looking for some direction on how to find users that would benefit from our website. Millions in btc and other altcoins are bought and sold every day. How can even a minuscule amount of the world's daily trading get funneled through swappa.io? Any ideas and/or advice are greatly appreciated. Thank you for your time.
7  Economy / Speculation / Re: Want to understand..... on: March 14, 2021, 03:52:39 PM
I disagree here. How does Elon Musk / certain governments not directly influence the price? Elon sent some tweets out about Doge and propelled it into an entirely new price bracket shredding old all-time-highs before bitcoin was north of 50k.
I don't know about doge or alt-coin, I don't follow any of them for now, but for bitcoin, Elon musk or any other influencers can't take glory of bitcoin passing 40k or 50k US dollars, he might have attribute to publicity or strengthen people to want to buy, but this is one part of many parts, people would still do there research before they buy

Yes, people do their research. Not everyone though. That's for sure. Some people will also jump on a bandwagon instantly if they think they are hopping on quickly enough. Look at the AMC / GME stock craze. Not everyone did research there. People swarmed because they thought they could ride [what came to be] an extremely volatile wave. A lot of people lost big. There was absolute price manipulation by institutions because they were about to lose at their own game.

Tesla buying over 1% of the total BTC supply surely did something to price. It gives Bitcoin a bullish outlook, and that alone is enough "research" for many people (myself included) to buy. If anyone is dropping $1.5 bil USD into anything, it's for a good reason. Money talks.
8  Economy / Speculation / Re: Want to understand..... on: March 14, 2021, 02:27:10 PM
I mean, it is, though?

For example, let's assume that why bitcoin hit 60k was 100% proven because of the recent stimulus package. Supply and demand in this case still takes to effect, because we can assume that the market demand for bitcoin increased because people suddenly have more money to spend(because of the stimulus money) and buy bitcoin.

This.

Also, Bitcoin's market cap is currently north of $1 trillion (current price * circulating supply). At this level, there is without any doubt that institutions are backing Bitcoin. For example, Elon Musk disclosed Tesla bought 1.5 billion in Bitcoin back in January. When institutions are involved, price manipulation is thrown into the mix. If a company has enough capital, it is possible to raise and lower the price of Bitcoin to shake retail investors (people like you and me) into selling their coin. Then, that institution will buy your coin at the discount you just provided them.

Buy and hodl.

Even if the news influence/instigates what the price of crypto-currency will do, it has to do it this way, disclaimer, -am not in the saying that Elon musk or any influencers on social media influence the price, nor any government-, so if any influence affect bitcoin/crypto-currency price, it has to go through demand and supply, for explanation if the influence is attractive then the demand goes up, then affects the price and vise versa.

I disagree here. How does Elon Musk / certain governments not directly influence the price? Elon sent some tweets out about Doge and propelled it into an entirely new price bracket shredding old all-time-highs before bitcoin was north of 50k.
9  Economy / Services / Re: Looking for ANN Thread Creator / Manager on: March 13, 2021, 08:49:56 PM
For the designers/ann thread creator: Overview of Bitcointalk Designers(Signature,Avatar,etc)

You have various choices from the thread and all of their portfolios are also included in that overview.

Thank you for pointing me in the right direction.
10  Economy / Services / Looking for ANN Thread Creator / Manager on: March 13, 2021, 05:54:14 PM
Please drop your portfolios below and means of contact if needed. Thank you.

-Swappa.io
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