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Dude, I already busted you back in your BC thread. Why would IE (you) delete this post and then alter all the conversation leading up to this? Because you answered my post AS Iconic but forgot to switch back to your Iconic account. So here is proof that barabbas lies, and that he does, in fact, delete posts.
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Quote from: barabbas on May 16, 2014, 12:07:01 AM
Quote from: Absynth on May 15, 2014, 11:59:22 PM
IE, remember when I told you it was a HUGE mistake to convert donations into fiat BEFORE your goal was reached. Remember how I told you in the event of a refund that it would be impossible to figure out all the logistics? Remember when you called me stupid for suggesting that you do not cash out before the event takes place? Remember?
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But you are an idiot and no sane person would pay attention to an idiot... as reality has proven it once again.
Converting to fiat the donations was, and remains, the wisest move logistics notwithstanding. As a matter of fact, those donations would buy today double -roughly- the amount of coins, so it was THAT brilliant to convert them.
But only a new level of idiocy would even pretend that the opposite was the right way to act.
Some levels of idiocy are quite difficult to even fathom.
From Absynth:
forgot to switch accounts from your "FUDmonkey" back to IE?
Only a total retard -like you are- would take that answer as being from Iconic. Only a total idiot. But what else is new. Oh, by the way, I was making the point of clarifying that, indeed, contrary to your idiotic quote, the fact that Iconic had converted the donations to fiat had been in fact quite profitable for every coin, especially BC, had gone much lower since the moment of the donation. Something quite obvious to anyone with an IQ above singles. But no one will ever accuse you of having an IQ above the singles, would anyone? Lie to yourself all you want, but why would both you and Iconic alter your posts leading up to that incident to make it look like it didnt happen? You are quick to call people names when presented with proof but you never present any proof with your FUD BULLSHIT. IT WAS PROVEN BY A MOD FROM THE LITECOIN THREAD THAT YOU AND IE ARE THE SAME IP ADDRESS. I WAS IN THE IRC AS WELL WHEN IT HAPPENED |
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Dude, I already busted you back in your BC thread. Why would IE (you) delete this post and then alter all the conversation leading up to this? Because you answered my post AS Iconic but forgot to switch back to your Iconic account. So here is proof that barabbas lies, and that he does, in fact, delete posts.
sorry for the formatting,
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Quote from: barabbas on May 16, 2014, 12:07:01 AM
Quote from: Absynth on May 15, 2014, 11:59:22 PM
IE, remember when I told you it was a HUGE mistake to convert donations into fiat BEFORE your goal was reached. Remember how I told you in the event of a refund that it would be impossible to figure out all the logistics? Remember when you called me stupid for suggesting that you do not cash out before the event takes place? Remember?
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But you are an idiot and no sane person would pay attention to an idiot... as reality has proven it once again.
Converting to fiat the donations was, and remains, the wisest move logistics notwithstanding. As a matter of fact, those donations would buy today double -roughly- the amount of coins, so it was THAT brilliant to convert them.
But only a new level of idiocy would even pretend that the opposite was the right way to act.
Some levels of idiocy are quite difficult to even fathom.
From Absynth:
forgot to switch accounts from your "FUDmonkey" back to IE?
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Shouldn't you guys be worrying much more about the dismal number of the multipool -never mind the sinking price- of BC instead of the always dubious antics of IE?
typical IE, oops I mean barabbas... When there are issues at hand you come up with some miniscule notion of yours to TRY to distract from current conversations. |
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Quote from: barabbas on Today at 12:07:01 AM
Quote from: Absynth on May 15, 2014, 11:59:22 PM
IE, remember when I told you it was a HUGE mistake to convert donations into fiat BEFORE your goal was reached. Remember how I told you in the event of a refund that
it would be impossible to figure out all the logistics? Remember when you called me stupid for suggesting that you do not cash out before the event takes place? Remember?
But you are an idiot and no sane person would pay attention to an idiot... as reality has proven it once again.
Converting to fiat the donations was, and remains, the wisest move logistics notwithstanding. As a matter of fact, those donations would buy today double -roughly- the amount of coins, so it was THAT brilliant to convert them.
But only a new level of idiocy would even pretend that the opposite was the right way to act.
Some levels of idiocy are quite difficult to even fathom.
forgot to switch accounts from your "FUDmonkey" back to IE?
tell me again that you are one of the biggest opponents of IE. I already busted you. We all know you are the same person
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and yet once again the focus has been moved by barrabas' trolling off the topic at hand. IE misappropriated the funds from your donations and is using them as leverage to try to get foundation members to step down or some such crazy. blackmail? misappropriation of funds?
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So if true, you estimate there's still about 10 millions coins to be dumped ?
Let them dump. Distribution will be far better. Speaking frankly, If I developped my own currency I would have done the same.
Now are they going to leave the boat as developpers ?
If it was me, I'd make some good money now and keep 100k. Then continue the venture.
BC obviously have a lot potential. There's no reason to jump off the ship.
I think they just worked on a nice V2 multipool.
Seriously those guys could attend dozens of cryptocurency conference and have a good life just like the Bitcoin core team. Leaving now would be stupid.
Those are my estimations of what The Doge, StGNU and Rat4 still have after they have dumped more than 15 million. I may be off by quite a few million on the upside, mind you. I understand your position and, questionable as it may have been, the "distribution", so to speak would have been "common behavior". Very questionable but standard in the industry, so to speak? The problem here are the business on the side --i.e: the multipool than, as you know, is a personal, independent business, for the ONLY purpose of profit -of course- of TheDOGE and StGNU. That being the case, the business of BC should be up for grabs, not given by decree to this guys, without any warranties and collecting a % which is above the goiing rates in the industry, let alone taking into consideration the "exclusivity". If that wasn't enough, here comes the BIG problem: La Mano Nera, The Black Hand. Mind you, contracts drawn and papers signed by Morituri13's own recognaisance, public one. The manipulate from the inside. They donate to the Multipool -and the Foundation- and they have so much access to inside info that, actually, they are the ones that approve or disapprove whatever is to be done in BC. Get it now? They don't just own and control tens of millions of coins, they have this as a going business. When the two Joe Sixpacks and Rat4 finish their dumping, the Black Hand will still be buying and selling at points of their choosing and with 100% manipulation, not just of the price through their usual P&Ds but through ALL THE OTHER ACTIVITIES of the coin and it's foundation. Corrupt to the core, alright? No way for the investors, traders or enthusiasts to win. The Black Hand will win. Always And kill the coin, while doing so. To be perfectly clear, if they would sell -the devs- all their coins and leave, BC had a chance. As it is, none whatsoever. BC doesnt have, nor has it had in the latest weeks, the volume to support your insane claim of a 15m BC dump. There was big volume today but still not enough to support your claim. Im not saying someone isnt dumping, but its nowhere near 25% of all BC. Post logs, provide some tangible proof. I used to think you were a paid troll, but after you accidentally answered my post thinking you were on your Iconic account, i know youre just IE's troll shill acct. still fun to annoy the shit out of you tho |
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IE, remember when I told you it was a HUGE mistake to convert donations into fiat BEFORE your goal was reached. Remember how I told you in the event of a refund that it would be impossible to figure out all the logistics? Remember when you called me stupid for suggesting that you do not cash out before the event takes place? Remember?
But you are an idiot and no sane person would pay attention to an idiot... as reality has proven it once again. Converting to fiat the donations was, and remains, the wisest move logistics notwithstanding. As a matter of fact, those donations would buy today double -roughly- the amount of coins, so it was THAT brilliant to convert them. But only a new level of idiocy would even pretend that the opposite was the right way to act. Some levels of idiocy are quite difficult to even fathom. im not talking to you, you waste of DNA. Im talking to the scammer, oops i mean misappropriator who, deletes posts of nice people asking for refunds to make it look as though the community is not as outraged as it actually is. You make so many claims about the crimes that the foundation would face "in the real world" but IE is now guilty of misappropriation of funds "in the real world" |
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and you say youre doing what the community wants but so far it seems the community wants refunds. Also I have been seeing people requesting refunds then i click refresh and poof, they are gone. So it looks like you are trying to downplay things. Damage control is a bitch isnt it?
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IE, remember when I told you it was a HUGE mistake to convert donations into fiat BEFORE your goal was reached. Remember how I told you in the event of a refund that it would be impossible to figure out all the logistics? Remember when you called me stupid for suggesting that you do not cash out before the event takes place? Remember?
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oh ya because that guy steve jobs who you compared yourself to a couple pages back wasnt doing acid in the desert and smoking more pot than Soepkip and the entire BC community combined, but ya. at least hes doing something positive. I knew you guys would lacch on to the shorts thing. it is the only tangible evidence you guys can come up with for all of your insane accusations.
So ya, I would definitely, 100% of the time support positive people over the negative ones.
Stop comparing these idiots to Steve jobs. Why can't you and others understand Soepkip is 27 not 21. By the time Steve Jobs was 27 he wasn't doing the dumb sh!t Seopkip is doing. Another thing you seem to not be able to grasp is Seopkip sucks at community manager. It would be one thing if he was awesome at his "job" and just dressed like a clown, no one would care. But Seopkip isn't good at this. He would be fired in the "real world". im not, you compared yourself to him, remember? i just came to this thread for the lawls... ill be in the REAL BC thread now  cheers trolls |
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this thread should be renamed the Anti-BC thread. There's so much negativity from the same three people because someone gave them a soapbox to stand on that alienates possible investors more than anything Soepkip or any of the foundation could possibly do, but hey this will probably get deleted so ya
You are an idiot. No really...you are an idiot. I am bored with idiots like you blaming everyone else but the person(s) you should be blaming. Soepkip went to a f..king meeting with beach shorts on and then Tweeted it. Nothing I say or do can be worse than that. Investors are not going to trust their BTC with a guy that is not smart enough to wear a damn suit to one of the most important meetings of his life. "I am not corporate". Then he wasn't even smart enough to delete the pic because he is that arrogant. Why can't you idiotic fanboys understand Soepkip is a moron. oh ya because that guy steve jobs who you compared yourself to a couple pages back wasnt doing acid in the desert and smoking more pot than Soepkip and the entire BC community combined, but ya. and Zuck, who regularly attends board meetings in shorts and sandals, even before the company was the net worth of BC's market cap. at least hes doing something positive. I knew you guys would lacch on to the shorts thing. it is the only tangible evidence you guys can come up with for all of your insane accusations. So ya, I would definitely, 100% of the time support positive people over the negative ones. NOT TO MENTION THE PR COMPANY WORKS FOR THEM. THEY DONT HAVE TO IMPRESS THEM |
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this thread should be renamed the Anti-BC thread. There's so much negativity from the same three people because someone gave them a soapbox to stand on that alienates possible investors more than anything Soepkip or any of the foundation could possibly do, but hey this will probably get deleted so ya. and barabbas l2troll please. I stated in this thread that I am actually against the foundation but I will support them over anyone here because of the smear campaign that has been started. I would gladly support positive, energetic supportive people over a bunch of biased misinformation that was probably commissioned in the first place.
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remember when you were anti-hitler videos? now they get a smiley from you? hypocrite |
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It seems the "joke" of the week is addressing me as "Christopher"... my personal information has been publicly available since the early 2000s. I was never trying to hide, the name of my company is listed right on the BlackCoin Card website. A simple Google search will turn up my name. But if typing my birth name gives you and others some sort of weird pleasure then enjoy it...
Close enough. It's not your birth name that is the joke of the week. It's you, yourself in general; everything you do and say, the tantrums you throw, accusations you post, the mental instability you demonstrate and whatnot. So you are indeed perceived as a joke by an ever-growing number, definitely for longer than just a week now, and more and more so by each passing day, yeah. You and others should really learn about the art of "distraction", because you are severely outwitted. It is funny when people think someone else is the joke when ultimately the joke is on them. For over 2 weeks all the focus has been on cat fights and slinging mud...and the sad part is you and others are still doing it as the price slowly drops. I love simple minded people like you...you make it very easy basically admitting that calling out the foundation for price manipulation was a distraction while he dumps his roughly 500 BTC worth of BC. Hypocrite man, fucking hypocrite I just goes to show people want to find any reason to "attack". Reread what I wrote...now where did I write I was distracting people to dump? What I did write was people need to stop being distracted by personal attacks and focus on the real "con". Nowhere did I say I was the "con"...but I am the distraction for someone else. Another 5 -10 pages of nonsense, and not one post about fixing the issue at hand. so the posts where you tell people to exit and the ones where you say youre dumping all of your BC are nice and constructive, huh? You havent done anyting constructive for BC since like the beginning of april but you wont leave the rest of us alone. You antagonize every last member of the forums to the point that more and more people have you on ignore. When that starts happening you have to start putting 2 and 2 together and realize its probably you. Not one post from you about trying to "fix the issue at hand" either. You just start bickering with anyone who says youre wrong. |
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It seems the "joke" of the week is addressing me as "Christopher"... my personal information has been publicly available since the early 2000s. I was never trying to hide, the name of my company is listed right on the BlackCoin Card website. A simple Google search will turn up my name. But if typing my birth name gives you and others some sort of weird pleasure then enjoy it...
Close enough. It's not your birth name that is the joke of the week. It's you, yourself in general; everything you do and say, the tantrums you throw, accusations you post, the mental instability you demonstrate and whatnot. So you are indeed perceived as a joke by an ever-growing number, definitely for longer than just a week now, and more and more so by each passing day, yeah. You and others should really learn about the art of "distraction", because you are severely outwitted. It is funny when people think someone else is the joke when ultimately the joke is on them. For over 2 weeks all the focus has been on cat fights and slinging mud...and the sad part is you and others are still doing it as the price slowly drops. I love simple minded people like you...you make it very easy basically admitting that calling out the foundation for price manipulation was a distraction while he dumps his roughly 500 BTC worth of BC. Hypocrite man, fucking hypocrite |
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Barabbas has been my strongest critic and he called me Hitler once. I do not agree with half the stuff he writes, but I do not delete his posts because debate is good and I always said that. What I dislike is when people start personally attacking others and use FUD as fact against that person's character.
I can tell you as I am less active and I just mostly observe, I see many people are just "wishing" and "hoping" instead of using their commonsense. Sometimes the answer is right in front of you if you just dare to look.
I have proven myself time and time again as being an honest and on the level guy. I recently posted pics of the makeshift card factory setup in my home, and the people who were posting FUD about the cards have magically vanished. However, not one person said.."hey since Iconic has been honest about everything he promised, why would he lie about the group manipulating the prices"? When I said I have over 2 million coins most people didn't even question if I was lying because they believed it to be true, but I am lying about the manipulation? Why would I lie about something that would surely affect the price of BC and in turn affect my portfolio? What would I have gained by lying about the group?
Sometimes it is hard to face the truth so people lash out at the person delivering the bad news because it is much easier to deny it than accept it. That is life both online and offline.
So what do I think about the future of BC? Well...lets put aside the group manipulation for a second.
Gritt is a ticking time bomb and he will show his true colors soon. The guy tried to manufacture and "give away" his own BlackCoin cards before I got the first batch from the factory. I can spot a snake a mile away and Gritt is a snake.
SoepKip is just waiting until BC gets to a certain level to cash out. Right now he is happy and excited to be doing something important with his life, but eventually he will get bored and once he is faced with over $100,000+ he will cash-out. He wont stick around long after that.
Maarx is a good kid with a future and I respect him for his honesty. He is a stand-up kid in my book, but he is is a bit naive about what is going on behind the scenes. He will probably be the first to leave when the sh!t hits the fan.
rat4 has no clue what is going on. He doesn't understand English very well and he is your typical coder...just focused on the technology. He is not interested in the business end and he will not have any effect on BC either way.
So what is my point? BC cannot succeed with this team... I do not care how many partnerships are established or how supportive the community is, without a strong experienced team BC will eventually fail.
Even if everything you said is 100% correct, I would still rather have the current team running things. IE, you just have too much crazy in you. Dont get me wrong, I love the crazy, guerrilla marketing genius that you are, but you come off as completely unstable at times, and as completely paranoid at other times. As a businessman, you can see how it would be detrimental to have a person who comes off to others like that on the management team for anything. also having someone who says, I will announce my decision on this major event on friday and then IGNORES everyones questions all day about if hes gonna say anything about the event at all... is a little detrimental as well |
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I do not delete his posts because debate is good and I always said that.
Debate that supporst IE's theories and nobody else's will not get deleted. Question IE or his cronies and you will get deleted. But then again Im 99% positive that brabbas and IE are one and the same. Their style of argument is very similar. OK probably not but how can you leave his hate filled rants full of blatant hyperbole and unibomber-esque style manifestos, but if I say something that points out how you contradicted yourself it is FUD? Guess that makes you one of BCpool crony or a smurf account of somone :p nope, i dont care either way really, but i have seen them be transparent with everything they say and they havent initiated a smear campaign against anybody. I call em like I see em. All ive seen from IE is using his rep to try to sway public opinion and using very specific instances to justify his implications. And again, im nobodys smurf account. my gf and I post on this forum and she doesnt even post in the BC threads, so yet again the leaps and bounds you guys take with your accusations are hilarious wooo there lil dogy did you just say the transparency??? Like telling people what was mined even days later or what was bought or how many shares you got mining. Did you really just say the multi pool was transparent?  really??? Owe and oh this I have to hear please tell me how the bcpool is transparent ? you do know theres a stats page where you can see exactly what is being mined right? I get paid out every 24 hrs and can veiw all my shares in my miner and they match my stats page. THAT is transparency. |
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I do not delete his posts because debate is good and I always said that.
Debate that supporst IE's theories and nobody else's will not get deleted. Question IE or his cronies and you will get deleted. But then again Im 99% positive that brabbas and IE are one and the same. Their style of argument is very similar. OK probably not but how can you leave his hate filled rants full of blatant hyperbole and unibomber-esque style manifestos, but if I say something that points out how you contradicted yourself it is FUD? Guess that makes you one of BCpool crony or a smurf account of somone :p nope, i dont care either way really (edit, i saw you use the pool not the foundation. I DO support the pool, but I am against the foundation), but i have seen them be transparent with everything they say and they havent initiated a smear campaign against anybody. I call em like I see em. All ive seen from IE is using his rep to try to sway public opinion and using very specific instances to justify his implications. WITH NO PROOF, other than someone saying that one of the things he said about SOMETHING ELSE was true. How does that make everything else true. In a court of law that would be ludacris, but hey its the internet so he doesnt have to use legit arguments huh? And again, im nobodys smurf account. my gf and I post on this forum and she doesnt even post in the BC threads, so yet again the leaps and bounds you guys take with your accusations are hilarious edit no. 2 : I noticed youre quick to call me out on WHO I may be not not to say that my argument was wrong or flawed. Thats what Im saying about this whole thread, is it is full of hypocrisy and finger pointers with no concern for facts |
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I do not delete his posts because debate is good and I always said that.
Debate that supporst IE's theories and nobody else's will not get deleted. Question IE or his cronies and you will get deleted. But then again Im 99% positive that brabbas and IE are one and the same. Their style of argument is very similar. OK probably not but how can you leave his hate filled rants full of blatant hyperbole and unibomber-esque style manifestos, but if I say something that points out how you contradicted yourself it is FUD? |
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Also why are all the posts where I quote IE saying he has more than 2 million BC getting deleted? All this talk about big wallets so the same rule applies to him. Nothing but hypocrisy in this thread
I delete most of your posts because you are a troll with a fake account. Why would I hide the fact about my coins since I publicly revealed it? Do us all a favor and go post your FUD in the "official" thread. everything I posted, might be offensive to you but has been backed up by facts, so its not fud... is it FUD that you knew who was behind the DDoS of the multipool and that you conspired in the same manner that you accused the pool operators of doing, by using insider information to make gains? You confirmed all this then it all got edited out of your posts. as opposed to brabbas, who you allow to troll with impunity. as to the fake account. I only have one other acct on this ip and it belongs to my gf and her and I dont even post in the same threads. Also Im not saying your lying outright, Im just saying PROVE IT. Come forward with a scrap of proof about price manipulation, I mean its clear that it is happening, but it could be anybody. Show us some damn proof that it is the people you say it is, because right now Im still not convinced. Just because something else you say isnt a lie it doesnt make everything else you say truth |
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