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Waveform Technology (Troy, Michigan) is now offering miner packages at great package pricing! Antminers to TerraMiners... BFL to Cointerra... We host it and you reap the rewards! Antminer S1, S2 and S3, SP10, SP30, Dragon boxes, Zeus, etc etc... We host it! Established tier 3 data center with experienced, BTC friendly staff! Contact us today for package pricing and information! inquiry@waveform.netor http://www.michigan-colocation.com/index.php/server-colocation/bitcoin-miner-hostingWe are now offering mining packages of all sizes! Email us for more info! |
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Hi Guy,
Could you, please let Barbara know that I'm waiting for her response about the order number #2666.
The weekend's almost up and I don't want to wait until Monday for the banks to start processing their transactions again.
Cheers,
P
It's the weekend in Israel. Eh ok thanks, I thought you still work on Fridays like some of us do here, on Saturdays. Well then I just have to wait until Monday then. Shabbat: http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Judaism/shabbat.htmlNot only is it a day of rest, but Walter Sobchak doesn't roll on Shabbos. |
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Ok.. Hosting seems to be bit expensive.
I'd check the sums again, all mine have gone to the USA for hosting and it's cheaper than the UK in all respects For a start you save the 20% import duty, 2x SP30's at say $4500 each works out around £1,100 total. If they go to the USA you pay 0 Typical UK Electric is around 15p, using 5400 watts is around £20 or $32 A DAY, $944 a month Where I host my machines you would pay $700 a month, so your saving $250 a month in hosting and the $1760 import fees, you don't have to worry about power/internet or cooling and you have full access to the machines and can make any changes. Tell Rich I sent you  http://www.michigan-colocation.com/index.php/server-colocation/bitcoin-miner-hostingThank you Tigggger. This was really useful information. Is there a fixed term contract with them? Would it be 6months? What happens after the contract finishes? Do i get the item shipped back to London? And I would need to pay the duty then right? My ears ring every time someone talks about me  No fixed contract, we're month to month. When you decide that you're done hosting, you'll have a few options. We can ship back to you if you'd like.. If you sell your unit and would like us to ship to the new owner, we can do that as well. As for duty fees, unfortunately I can't answer that one. I can tell you two things.. When Fed Ex ships to us here in the states, we don't have to cover a fee, because it's classified as "computer equipment". And the 2nd thing, which is just a thought in my own head.. Since you already own the item and we would just be sending it back to you, would there be a duty fee? Feel free to throw me a message if you have any other questions, or even an email: rtota@waveform.net |
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Waveform Technology (Troy, Michigan) is now offering miner packages at great package pricing! Antminers to TerraMiners... BFL to Cointerra... We host it and you reap the rewards! Antminer S1, S2 and S3, SP10, SP30, Dragon boxes, Zeus, etc etc... We host it! Established tier 3 data center with experienced, BTC friendly staff! Contact us today for package pricing and information! inquiry@waveform.netor http://www.michigan-colocation.com/index.php/server-colocation/bitcoin-miner-hostingCOMING SOON: Mining packages! Email us for more info! |
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Can confirm, temps in Mich-Colo are way better now, but I have different figures. I guess my machines are not in the same room as yours. Mine are showing 28C o - 30C o. Your machines are not only in the same room, but in the same rack. |
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First off, I want to be clear that my responses here are not intended as combative, i'm just addressing the comments made. I don't want you, or anyone else to think im "attacking" or trying to deviate from the situation. I don't think you're understanding the current situation. You're basing your opinion on partial information you're getting through an internet forum.
Partial? I can only go by what you have written on this forum. Right, that's exactly my point. For you to call us unprofessional, or judge our "backup plan" without even knowing what our "backup plan" is, is forming an opinion regarding a situation that you don't have a fair, full group of facts to form said opinion. "It's quite easy to sit back and play Armchair Data Center Operator" ... now that I don't do ... I only comment on things people experience & what I have experienced myself. Technically, that's exactly what you're doing. It's quite easy to play the role of a keyboard jockey and judge something that you don't know about. (I say "you don't know about" based off the fact that you don't know our cooling, our redundancy situation, or our "backup plans")... "perfect storm" ... planning sorts that one. Again. Based off the fact that you don't know what we have in the data center for cooling, or how it's set up, or what our redundancy is, you can't judge what the "perfect storm" is, or how you would plan. There's only so far your department of redundancy department can go. We unfortunately found out. >> Out of curiosity, have you ever been in a data center? >> Have you ever been in a data center that has 100 or more mining machines running at the same time? No .. but should I? How would that help? If I said yes ... would that make my any reply diffrent? No ... When I choose a hosting solution it is based on cost/reliability/feedback/TEMPS/SLA and an averaged view from others in the forum community who have used them. Would it make the reply different? Possibly. I don't know how you plan to plan, or what your knowledge of data center inner workings are. I can only tell you this.. Mining machines break out unGodly heat. There's a reason all data centers aren't taking machines in. IMO (and the reason I asked) if you have been down an aisle with multiple mining machines, you would know how fast the temperatures rise and once they have risen, that it isn't as easy as "flipping a switch" to bring them back to normal. My reason for asking was, if you had been in a data center, versus a data center with a mining machine section, you get a better grasp on what the area is like. Our stats from the past have been posted. We run a very cool, climate controlled data center, and as mentioned, that was one of the reasons people have gone with us. Did we plan on losing AC units? Of course not. Did we try to combat the rising temps when we had failures? Of course. Could we plan on losing multiple units all at once? Yes, and we did. It's something that happens on an extremely rare basis, something that is considered the worst case scenario, and we executed the plan based off the threat of losing multiple units. Did we bring in an emergency air unit to execute an emergency plan? Yes. You stated that we didn't have a plan in place, when the fact is, we did, we executed, we are living in it right now. |
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While I appreciate your opinion, you're well off base.
We've been in the data center business for years. We're not a "fly-by-night mining center".
Unfortunately, we had some units fail and in a worst case scenario, our redundant unit also failed.
As mentioned, we've been in the process of bringing a new unit online, which was a planned upgrade. These unit problems escalated the install of one of two, and had us bring in an emergency AC rental to help overall.
You may have been in the business for years ... which actually makes the current situation worse with your reply. >> Unfortunately, we had some units fail and in a worst case scenario, our redundant unit also failed. So, you didn't have proper pre-planning in place for worst case scenario then. Not meaning to shoot you, but if some units fail ... and at the same time the redundant unit 'also' fails ... there is no robust plan in place. I don't think you're understanding the current situation. You're basing your opinion on partial information you're getting through an internet forum. Unit failed. Redundant unit kicked in to take up some of the load. Plan for worst case scenario: Bring in emergency air unit. Bring in emergency contractors to repair failed units. Still have other units working to keep temps from hitting 150 degrees. We've got multiple overhead units in a 25k+ sq foot data center. We run additional units to ease the workload of each individual unit. When one fails, they all work harder. When 2 fail, they work VERY hard and sometimes, depending on the heat you're experiencing, it's extremely hard to overcome those losses. It's quite easy to sit back and play Armchair Data Center Operator. You can conjure up whatever you would like to, the fact is, as I mentioned, this was all worst case scenario or better put, a "perfect storm". We put emergency AC units into play right away, called in emergency mechanics to fix damaged units and moved up project dates on additional unit installs. Serious question, not a troll... Out of curiosity, have you ever been in a data center? Have you ever been in a data center that has 100 or more mining machines running at the same time? |
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Doesn't seem too professional to me, MichColo should have had redundancy and back-up plans.
If your dead ASICS don't come back to life after a cool down in temps ... they cost you.
While I appreciate your opinion, you're well off base. We've been in the data center business for years. We're not a "fly-by-night mining center". Unfortunately, we had some units fail and in a worst case scenario, our redundant unit also failed. As mentioned, we've been in the process of bringing a new unit online, which was a planned upgrade. These unit problems escalated the install of one of two, and had us bring in an emergency AC rental to help overall. |
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All,
Just wanted to touch base on what's currently happening right now with our data center temps.
We had an AC unit that has been "problematic", fail this weekend, and with some warmer temps, obviously we're seeing the blunt of it.
A contractor is currently working on the failed unit and expects to have that back up tomorrow.
We've also got an emergency AC unit that we've rented, that is currently being installed, to help alleviate the temps that you're seeing.
This is currently being done as I type this as well.
Next week, we've got the 1st of 2 new Liebert A/C units being installed, and expect the work on a 2nd to follow shortly after.
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I do hope they are monitoring this and have taken measures to combat the heat. At this point, offers from Iceland are looking more promising for my SP30. Yes, we are aware of the higher temps and are currently in plans to improve conditions with an added A/C unit in the data center. |
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haha.. My 3rd SP10 has been delivered to michigan-colocation.com and it was up and hashing less than an hour later. I am laughing due to the speed of service by michigan-colo and DHL. Ridiculously FAST. I only bought this SP10 on Tuesday 10th, and it's Friday 13th 8am. That's what we do! We know you aren't making any money with your unit sitting in a box on the floor |
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Sorry guys, typo on my part!
It's actually $75 for the Antminer S1.
Sorry about that!
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Waveform Technology (Troy, Michigan) is now offering miner packages at great package pricing! Antminers to TerraMiners... BFL to Cointerra... We host it and you reap the rewards! Some example package pricing: Antminer S1 hosting: $75/mo Antminer S2 hosting: $150/mo Spondoolie S10 hosting: $150/mo Cointerra Terraminer IV (1.6hash): $330/mo Contact us today for other package pricing and information! inquiry@waveform.nethttp://www.michigan-colocation.com/index.php/server-colocation/bitcoin-miner-hostingEdit: Fixed my typo on the pricing! |
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Sorry for the delayed response on this..
Yes, we're happy to configure your machine for you. Typically, this is such a quick process, that we don't charge to do the configuration.
Rich
Thanks, will bear you in mind for future purchases or when existing hosting contracts need renewing Sounds good, we'll be here when you're ready! Speaking of.. No contracts with us either Month to month. The lack of tied down commitment is nice to offer! |
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Hi all, my name is Rich from Waveform Technology (from the chat QG posted)..
Just wanted to introduce myself, offer assistance with any questions regarding our hosting if needed.
Hi Rich, For people like me in Europe, we typically pay 20% import duty which adds a lot to the cost of equipment, so sending it to the USA (or elsewhere) with no tax for hosting is starting to be a no brainer. This bit on your website I'd like to query You purchase and configure your mining equipment, ship it to our Data Center here in Troy, Michigan, we plug it into power and Internet, and you start making BTC's! Obviously I wouldn't be able to set up the miner(s) as I would just ship direct from the manufacturer to you, is there a way round it, they are quite straightforward to set up and I wouldn't mind paying a fee for you to do it. Sorry for the delayed response on this.. Yes, we're happy to configure your machine for you. Typically, this is such a quick process, that we don't charge to do the configuration. Rich |
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Hi all, my name is Rich from Waveform Technology (from the chat QG posted).. Just wanted to introduce myself, offer assistance with any questions regarding our hosting if needed. Also of note.. "Told him to get him as far away from the venting as possible"
That means warmer air and less hashes, but also lower power consumption. Just wanted to mention two things on that.. The thought of moving the spoondoolie away from the cooling vents was that of the customer. The customer in question was led to believe (I'm not sure if this was from a spoondoolie rep, or another spoondoolie user) that the hash difference was minimal, so his goal was to keep cost down by saving on the power needs. I would want the closest to the vent as possible to hash the fastest way. And thus the nature of this beast! Sacrifice hash to save on power, or get the hashes and pay more in power? Typically, in a data center (at least, good data centers) it should be hard to find a "hot area". It's pretty unusual to get that request. haha Currently, we don't have any spoondoolies here (yet), but i'm intrigued by them and can't wait till they start coming in so we can see what they do in the different conditions! Rich |
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