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1  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: LinuxCoin A lightweight Debian based OS with everything ready to go. on: August 02, 2011, 08:28:27 PM
I just accepted the lincense, But now i got this error (both with default kernel and phatk)

Code:
[02/08/2011 17:22:17] FATAL kernel error: Failed to load OpenCL kernel!

Type sudo in before you run your phoenix line, only have to do it once, unless you change the kernel.
2  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: New command-line tool for overclocking ATI cards (Linux) on: August 01, 2011, 03:25:53 AM
I love atitweak, simple and helps me custom set everything on my cards. Also lets me check what clocks actually stick. Great tool! The shortened syntax rocks(took me a sec to figure out though), saves time when I am testing out new cards or trying higher or lower clocks. Here is what I run right before I begin mining.

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atitweak -m 725 -P 2 -A 0
atitweak -m 725 -P 1 -A 0
atitweak -e 850 -P 2 -A 0
atitweak -m 855 -P 2 -A 1
atitweak -m 855 -P 1 -A 1
atitweak -e 955 -P 2 -A 1
atitweak -f 83 -A 0
atitweak -f 70 -A 1

You know you can shorten this more (I'm lazy - less typing = more beer drinking)
Code:
atitweak -m 775 -e 850 -f 83 -A 0
atitweak -m 855 -e 995 -f 70 -A 1
Unless you have some need of running different settings for performance levels???

Thanks for the shortened syntax, will save me a couple lines now. I wrote how to use atitweak in to the overclocking wiki for linuxcoin a couple weeks back, gives a general overview of other overclocking utilities as well, I still must say, atitweak is the best. Only problem I still have is I can't underclock memory on my 6850 more than 100mhz from core, and 125mhz on my 6950. Anybody have a good workaround for this yet? My 5770 is working great at memclock 275 though.
3  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: LinuxCoin A lightweight Debian based OS with everything ready to go. on: August 01, 2011, 03:09:12 AM
FYI I have used this improved kernel in poclbm(phoenix) in linuxcoin and seen some dramatic improvements on my low end radeon cards and a slight improvement on my higher end cards.

Card, prior hash, current hash
5770, 212 Mhash to 229 Mhash(8%! improvement)
6850, 249 Mhash to 251 Mhash
6950, 341 Mhash to 344 Mhash

Can't wait for the upcoming release, Have to see how the new version works, I am still using 0.2.1b. Thanks so much for all the wireless card support, that's what really kept me from using bamt(unfortunately for bamt).

Request:
Could some one put up a guide(in the wiki perhaps or on here) on how to make linux coin bridge its wireless connection to its ethernet port. I tried firestarter and editing connection(changing the ipv4 setting on the eth to shared as suggested by some websites) and still have no luck pulling internet out of the ethernet cord. This would really simplify my miner setup. Thanks for the awesome dist and active development!
4  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: further improved phatk OpenCL kernel (> 2% increase) for Phoenix - 2011-07-01 on: July 31, 2011, 07:45:00 PM
Not working for me. phoenix 1.48, ubuntu 11.04 64bits.

[01/07/2011 14:45:48] Finding inner ELF...
[01/07/2011 14:45:48] Patching inner ELF...
[01/07/2011 14:45:48] Patching instructions...
[01/07/2011 14:45:48] BFI-patched 472 instructions...
[01/07/2011 14:45:48] Patch complete, returning to kernel...
[01/07/2011 14:45:48] Applied BFI_INT patch
[01/07/2011 14:45:48] FATAL kernel error: Failed to load OpenCL kernel!


Not working for me. phoenix 1.5, Linuxcoin.

Yes I copied both files kernel.cl and __init__.py into kernels/phatk/

I get this when I try to start Phoenix(it will work fine with the original kernel files, 6850@930/830=250Mh/s, 6950@850/735= 340 Mh/s)

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user@linuxcoin:/opt/miners/phoenix$ ./phoenix.py -u http://user:pass@bitcoinpool.com:8334/ -k phatk DEVICE=0 VECTORS AGGRESSION=7 -v FASTLOOP BFI_INT
[18/07/2011 09:27:56] Finding inner ELF...
[18/07/2011 09:27:56] Patching inner ELF...
[18/07/2011 09:27:56] Patching instructions...
[18/07/2011 09:27:56] BFI-patched 472 instructions...
[18/07/2011 09:27:56] Patch complete, returning to kernel...
[18/07/2011 09:27:56] Applied BFI_INT patch
[18/07/2011 09:27:56] FATAL kernel error: Failed to load OpenCL kernel!

Can anyone tell me what I am doing wrong? Thanks

It took setting up a second mining machine to figure out what I did wrong here. I had to type sudo the first time when I start the miner using the changed kernel file for some reason(really quite odd). Anyways my results
Card, prior hash, current hash
5770,212 Mhash to 229 Mhash(8%! improvement)
6950,341 Mhash to 344 Mhash

So if you are using linux and it gives you any sort of failure, try it again with super privileges, has worked everytime now. Thanks so much, I will make a humble donation.
5  Bitcoin / Mining software (miners) / Re: 3% faster mining with phoenix+phatk, diablo, or poclbm for everyone on: July 31, 2011, 07:31:10 PM
FYI this change is found already in both the phatk and poclbm kernels in linux coin.
6  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: Wireless w/LinuxCoin? on: July 29, 2011, 06:14:02 PM
Are you running Linuxcoin wirelessly? I'm looking for a robust wireless adapter, USB or PCI, that has built-in driver support in the Linuxcoin kernal. I'm a linux noob and want to avoid "driver hell".  ;-)

I've looked at the "linux wireless adapters list" but give me your suggestions, please.
Every card i have has worked instantly with linux coin with no driver problems. I have used both the Rosewill RNX-EasyN1 usb card and a pcie-x1 asus PCE-N13 card with no problems. Instantly recognized both respectively as Ralink 802.11 n WLAN and Ralink corp. RT2860. I think your safe with any wifi card, that's been my experience. Well implemented with every platform I have tried so far.
7  Economy / Goods / Re: [confirmed] SCAMMER: user Leon on: July 26, 2011, 08:21:49 PM
I agree with everything Inaba has said. As a buyer I would not trust a donation escrow, as I am out bitcoins whether transaction goes through or not. Way to much risk there. Heatware should be implemented in every transaction. There is always going to be risk in any transaction, yes an escrow can try to fully account for all angles but I imagine the fee will be hefty. The whole benefit of bitcoins is the no transaction fee, no disputations, the anonymity of it all. Escrow service for bitcoin trading is a good idea but I would run from donation type escrow services(I need to be assured that if the deal goes south, I can get my bitcoins back). Till then, I will only deal with someone with some reputable Heat(Linked my limited heat).
Do NOT use donation escrow services.  These are the stupidest idea I've ever seen implemented in an escrow service. 

Escrow is meant to protect both parties.  An escrow service that protects only one party is effectively not really an escrow service, and an "escrow" service that sends the money to a "donation" in the event of a default is just asking for all sorts of trouble.  I would never, ever, ever agree to a donation escrow as a buyer.  Donation escrows are only harmful to the process, they do not provide any benefit.  There is no risk to the scammer by using donation escrow or not using it - either way they won't get the money, but if they do use it, at the very least they can use it to fuck you so you don't get your money back in the event of a default.  On top of that, they can also be used as a harassment tool even if someone isn't a scammer in the sense of them trying to take your money.

An escrow service requires an arbitration process.  Any escrow service without an arbitration process is nothing more than "Hey Bob, will you hold my wad of cash for a few days?"  And you don't know Bob.  And Bob might give your money to the Red Cross if the seller tells him to.

As far as feedback/ratings go, there's already a site, it's called HEATWARE.  I use it on here as well as other forums.  It should be the standard for here, just like it is at so many other For Sale forums around the world.



Donation style escrow is more like paying 80 cents for insurance at the post office than a full service escrow.

It's nothing like 80 cents for insurance at the post office.  It's not even kind of like it.  It's not even vaguely related to it.  See the rest of my post below:

kokojie & kgo:

I am finding it really difficult to believe you two are so deluded or naive to think that people won't do stuff to fuck with other people just for the hell of it (or for the lulz as the case may be).  Just because you've annoyed me in this post, I am going to create a fake account and sell you something through a donation escrow when you least expect it.

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No, actually in my experience, donation escrow is perfect. With arbitration type escrow, the buyer can choose to screw the seller and claim the item is no good, and get money back. Also, for digital goods, there's no way for seller to prove he has delivered the item. Also fraudulent sellers can just ship empty box to the buyer with tracking number to fool arbitration (I have seen this fraud on ebay/paypal many times, but ebay has a reputation system to keep this low).

Your experience must be exceptionally limited then.  There is nothing good about a donation escrow.  It's a bastardization of the escrow process that screws all parties.  I also have serious questions as to whether or not a given escrow service would even send the money to the donation service listed, but that's another discussion entirely.  There is nothing a donation escrow service offers that is of value to anyone except the escrow operator.  In a defaulted situation, if the money doesn't go back to the seller, the whole transaction is pointless;  The seller is out their goods and the buyer is out their money.  Yes, the buyer might get the dubious "satisfaction" of knowing that the seller does not get any money, but this fallacy comes at the cost of allowing literally anyone to screw with any seller at any time with no reprecussions at all.  Again, if you are of the belief that people won't do that just for the hell of it and especially to exact some sort of revenge on someone, you are deluding yourselves.

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Basically, if there's arbitration, there will be incentive for both buyer and seller to get creative and screw over the other guy. With donation escrow, there is no such thing. Seller has zero incentive to screw over the buyer as if the buyer is unhappy, seller does not get any money. Buyer also has zero incentive to screw over the seller, as buyer not getting money back either way, and he'd be really stupid to intentionally piss off someone that knows his name and address.

And this braindead donation escrow eliminates this how?  It doesn't, it just provides yet MORE opportunity to get creative to screw over someone with zero reprecussions.  Not only does it not solve a problem, it creates another one in the process.  The buyer could have every reason to screw over the seller - there is not "zero" reason.

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There's no risk to a scammer without a donation escrow anyway, since pretty much by definition they have nothing to lose.  What the escrow service does is remove the incentive to scam somebody, not remove the non-existant risk to the scammer.  The scammer has no reason to invest time setting up a con because the net return is a negative.  They use a resource, their time, and if there's no possible way to profit, they've lost out.  Hence they'll move on to the next potential victim, or try to pester you into not using escrow for some BS reason, and give up when you refuse to budge.

I agree, there is no risk to the scammer without an escrow service.  There is also no risk to the scammer WITH a donation escrow service.  The donation escrow service adds NOTHING to the process and adds one additional avenue of harassment.  That was my original point - it doesn't add anything except more problems.  A monetary return is not always the incentive or goal of a scammer/harassment/forthelulz person.

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No.  The person who gives the cash to Bob determines if it goes to the Red Cross.  The more comparable scenario is giving money to Bob, and saying, "If you don't here from me in a few days, burn that money, flush it down the toilet, but whatever you do, don't give it to that jackass."  The seller can not force a charity release and somehow steal my money.

Now you are contradicting yourself.  Either a donation escrow service enforces the "if in default, it goes to charity" or it does not.  If it does not, it doesn't fulfill it's design parameters.  If it does, then the buyer can easily force it by reporting it in default.  Your scenario is nothing like an escrow donation service.  Escrow donation is literally "Hey Bob, hold my money.  If you hear ANYTHING but 'Give him this money', throw it away and burn it."  So then Jim can say "Hey Bob, fuck off." and poof there goes your money.  That's the fallacy and ridiculousness of escrow donation.  Donation can be forced (by either party, but more importantly by the person buying) putting the control of the transaction in the buyer's hands when it should be in neither hands - that is the point of escrow.

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The number of people who would just do that to be an a-hole are far less than the number of scammers out there.

Also, if the deal falls apart for legitimate reasons, and both people are on the same side, you can recover your bitcoins safely.  This is covered in my FAQ.

Far more than you are apparently aware of.  

As far as your second sentence in that quote, then you are arbitrating at that point and your arguments for a donation escrow fall completely apart (which they were already in shreds to begin with).  If the deal can be reversed due to certain conditions, then that is a form of arbitration.  Crude and rudimentary, but none the less that's what it is.

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I don't understand how a donation based escrow could be used as a harassment tool.  The only thing I could think is that someone can keep on bugging you to release the coins.  But they could do the same thing without the escrow service, by bugging you to send coins.  Could you elaborate?

Really?  You can't imagine this scenario off the top of your head:

You've annoyed me somehow or I just pick you at random to fuck with.  I setup a fake account and offer to sell something I know you'll be interested in at an attractive price.  I deny all other offers privately and offer to sell to you for 25 BTC but I demand that you use an escrow service... but to show I'm magnanimous I offer to let you use the donation based escrow.  I tell you "Hey, to prove I'm not a scammer you can set it to donation so I won't get anything if I screw you." You think "Hey, that's cool, here  Mr. Donation Escrow, is my hard earned 25 BTC."

Now you're out 25 BTC and I dislike you because you've annoyed me.  I have to do nothing further.  I just cost you 25 BTC and have to do nothing but create a fake account and offer a product at an attractive price.

Now expand this scenario with someone how wants to fuck with a group of people... instead of taking just your offer, I can take several offers and screw 3 or 4 or more people out of their money, thereby undermining confidence in BTC.  All because there's a donation based escrow.

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For a scammer to spend the time to write up the sale, risk being caught, and also might have to spend some time develop a seemingly reputable account, and then after all that get ZERO profit, the scammer has to be a extremely stupid scammer that likes to waste time.

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In my opinion, it's not at all likely.  Most people don't have an incentive to screw you over in this situation.  Yes, there might be a crazy person or a sicko who gets some thrill by doing so, or some wacko who convinces himself somehow you cheated him and wants to get revenge, but the likelihood of dealing with one of these people is much, much lower than the likelihood of dealing with a scammer.  At least in my opinion.

I have two words for you:  4chan - /b/

And that's just one example.

I was, of course, lying at the top of the post about creating a fake account to sell you something.  Or was I?  You will never know and now you'll question every transaction you make through a donation escrow because it MIGHT be me just fucking with you because you've annoyed me.  You'll eventually be lulled into a false sense of security when nothing happens in the next month or two, but then BAM.  Or maybe it'll happen on your next transaction.  Am I serious?



8  Economy / Goods / Re: 1992 Mitsubishi 3000GT - 200 BTC (Pics) on: July 26, 2011, 06:43:55 PM
Reminds me of my own 92 3000GT, yours looks to be in much better condition(which is funny cause I have less miles). This is a great buy people.

My own 3000 GT is manual, but my leather seats are trashed along with my antenna(use a kit to rebuild but that broke as well). Also my e-brake on my car has loosened to the point of worthlessness-Its a manual so that is sort of a big deal(Have to park it in gear and I try to avoid parking on hills), I'll fix it one of these days.

Anyways, this car rocks and is fun to work on. In my more reckless days I topped out at 155mph(what else are you going to do coming home from the night shift at 330am?). On my 3000gt the speedometer looses accuracy above 120 and is unresponsive above 140(just bobs up and down, freaked me out the first time, use a GPS for better accuracy). The Handling is superb, once you get use to driving it, everything else feels pretty slow(well comparing it to my civic or hyndai at least).

Good price for a fun car.
9  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: New command-line tool for overclocking ATI cards (Linux) on: July 26, 2011, 02:47:25 AM
I love atitweak, simple and helps me custom set everything on my cards. Also lets me check what clocks actually stick. Great tool! The shortened syntax rocks(took me a sec to figure out though), saves time when I am testing out new cards or trying higher or lower clocks. Here is what I run right before I begin mining.

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atitweak -m 725 -P 2 -A 0
atitweak -m 725 -P 1 -A 0
atitweak -e 850 -P 2 -A 0
atitweak -m 855 -P 2 -A 1
atitweak -m 855 -P 1 -A 1
atitweak -e 955 -P 2 -A 1
atitweak -f 83 -A 0
atitweak -f 70 -A 1
10  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: LinuxCoin A lightweight Debian based OS with everything ready to go. on: July 21, 2011, 12:18:06 AM
I added a page for changing the time zone in the wiki.

Awesome! Thanks so much, I had spent so long trying to figure it out using instructions for an old version of DBE and it didn't do a thing, that worked instantly! I have been working on the wiki, I did the long entry about OC'ing. I think I am gong to write another one just called Linux Short cuts, all the useful shortcuts I have learned. I am really new to Linux, I know Windows and command line interfaces pretty well, but I am still learning may way through Linux.

Only thing Linux coin is really missing for me is a CPU underclocking utility. Does anyone know of a piece of software I can get on this that will allow me to change the p-state frequencies and voltages of my AM3 CPU. On windows there is PhenomMSRtweaker which works great(allows me to force the processor into lowest p state which is set at 1350Mhz @ .895V)
11  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: LinuxCoin A lightweight Debian based OS with everything ready to go. on: July 20, 2011, 10:53:17 PM

Open up a terminal and type.

Code:
lxrandr

And you will be met with a GUI that you can change the resolution.


We really need to get this info in the wiki, also how to change the clock to different time zones, so annoying to see the clock always showing the time 6 hours off for me.
12  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: DeepBit pool thread for newbies on: July 19, 2011, 11:43:47 PM
What is the purpose of having multiple workers on the website?  Do I need one for each computer I have here at home mining or can multiple computers use the same worker account?

Well if you are using a secure password(something with symbols like ! or #), it messing up the syntax of the phoenix miner when you put those in a terminal, so phoenix won't start. I like the option of having multiple different miners, that way you can keep your deepbit main account secure so no one can change your pay out address. At the same time, maybe you are running multiple computers and you would like the option of have one card or computer pay-per-share mode and the other pay out proportional. I really like the customability of the miner. It also provides another tool to monitor your efficiency.

So those are the reasons I thing it exist. You can run multple computers/GPU's on the same worker account. Extra workers are for more flexibility and security.
13  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Whitelist Requests (Want out of here?) on: July 19, 2011, 06:45:17 PM
I would like to take part on the linux coin forum board where I have been figuring out linux and helping write some of the wiki. I would appreciate interacting with more people and being able to update what I have contributed to those most likely to look, and also to get feedback from others.

14  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: further improved phatk OpenCL kernel (> 2% increase) for Phoenix - 2011-07-01 on: July 18, 2011, 09:31:02 AM
Not working for me. phoenix 1.48, ubuntu 11.04 64bits.

[01/07/2011 14:45:48] Finding inner ELF...
[01/07/2011 14:45:48] Patching inner ELF...
[01/07/2011 14:45:48] Patching instructions...
[01/07/2011 14:45:48] BFI-patched 472 instructions...
[01/07/2011 14:45:48] Patch complete, returning to kernel...
[01/07/2011 14:45:48] Applied BFI_INT patch
[01/07/2011 14:45:48] FATAL kernel error: Failed to load OpenCL kernel!


Not working for me. phoenix 1.5, Linuxcoin.

Yes I copied both files kernel.cl and __init__.py into kernels/phatk/

I get this when I try to start Phoenix(it will work fine with the original kernel files, 6850@930/830=250Mh/s, 6950@850/735= 340 Mh/s)

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user@linuxcoin:/opt/miners/phoenix$ ./phoenix.py -u http://user:pass@bitcoinpool.com:8334/ -k phatk DEVICE=0 VECTORS AGGRESSION=7 -v FASTLOOP BFI_INT
[18/07/2011 09:27:56] Finding inner ELF...
[18/07/2011 09:27:56] Patching inner ELF...
[18/07/2011 09:27:56] Patching instructions...
[18/07/2011 09:27:56] BFI-patched 472 instructions...
[18/07/2011 09:27:56] Patch complete, returning to kernel...
[18/07/2011 09:27:56] Applied BFI_INT patch
[18/07/2011 09:27:56] FATAL kernel error: Failed to load OpenCL kernel!

Can anyone tell me what I am doing wrong? Thanks
15  Other / Beginners & Help / Linuxcoin wiki entries. Linuxcoin rocks! on: July 18, 2011, 08:44:24 AM
Howdy, I just got my linuxcoin distro all set up on a  hard drive install and have finally figured out how to OC my two GPU's in linux. I posted the instructions on linux coin wiki. If I wasn't a newb on this board I would post it on the linuxcoin forum post, but I'll need a couple more post before I can get there.

I really have to add, Linuxcoin rocks! I put an Ubuntu 11.04 distro up and get it all set up to compare thinking the results would be the same. Linux coin pulled 20-30 Mh/s per card more than Ubuntu did, this is using exactly the same clock and phoenix client.

I am a complete Linux newbie and I was able to figure it out.

Here is what I get from my two cards

Sapphire 6850 100315L 250Mh/s @  930 / 830  BFI_INT  VECTORS AGGRESSION=13 -k phatk -v FASTLOOP=false For some odd reason memory clock will not go more than 100 Mhz less than core clock, if set lower it defaults to stock 1000Mhz memory clock
Sapphire 6950 2gb Dirt 3  340 Mh/z 850 / 725 BFI_INT VECTORS AGGRESSION=7 -k phatk DEVICE=0 -v FASTLOOP This card only allows the memory to be downclocked to a difference of -125Mhz or it defaults to stock mem clocks(1250Mhz)

My whole rig(Phenom 965 + 2GPU's) Pulls 470w from wall when mining, when idle I am at 160w. I just wish Linux coin had a CPU down clock utility like PhenomMSRtweaker so I could force my AMD CPU in the most idle p-state and save some more electricity.

By the way, anyone know of a good linux AMD CPU control utility like PhenomMSRtweaker?
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