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1  Economy / Gambling / Re: [SOLVED] Betnomi | Project status & Refund Plan! on: March 03, 2024, 03:51:48 AM
It is in the casino's interest for the user to play as much as possible. For the Sportsbook, the one and only reason a user will ever get limited is if they are engaged in fraud of some kind. The fact that you got limited is a clear indication you were engaged in fraud.

The casino sets an acceptable liability that determines the user's limit by default. If the user plays normally, the casino is betting the user will lose long term. If the user is engaged in fraud, the casino needs to take action to protect itself by limiting the user. We hope you learn something today.

You only made the withdrawal request because you got limited, and you got limited because you were engaged in fraud.

Thanks for sharing again your explanation that

Winnging user in betnomi is a fraud.
Playing normally means loosing in the long term is warmly welcome.

If I was bug hunting and found glitch in your service that would just print money everytime i press button you could call me a fraud, block my account and seize all winnings, everyone would agree with that.
However, you are providing a service where I may lose or win money. If you don't like my betting patterns, you can say goodbye to me by limting me so I won't be bringing you losses anymore but if you are trying to provide a legitimate service you should pay users, even those who are not welcome.

About the whole KYC thing and your inability to complete it, we used a third-party KYC provider (Veriff). It is an automated system and available 24/7. If you failed it, it's usually due to a few reasons:

1. Fake documents
2. Already did verification
3. Using unsupported documents

Passing or failing the KYC has nothing to do with our services or systems. This is 100% dependent on the provider we used, which is one of the best in the world.

You will have fewer problems in the future if you avoid abusing other Sportsbooks.

Third-party KYC provider (Veriff) in last days before shutdown was unplugged from your service. Not only me but the others had problem to complete KYC due this "global restriction" on your site.
Casino Guru Case
However my identity got verified by this best third-party KYC provider in the world proof

I Found your transparency post on your new project twitter
https://x.com/Basebetio/status/1761062356451291582?s=20

For everyone wondering how mr. Sorsis have NOT refunded all
You can find very interesting thing, a STATEMENT where you put "All refund transactions for users who weren't able to withdraw"

67 Transfers which are following: 2 are from April 2023, 24 are from May 2023, 30 are from June 2023, 2 from July 2023 and there are only 8 transfers made since 21.12.2023
+ 1 record is empty ETH wallet, 1 Transfer from June 2023 is doubled, 1 Transfer from January 2024 is doubled / 69 records total

One of most interesting things is 6 Transfers in this refund list were sent from Stake wallet
1 2 3 4 5 6
Do you want to tell us, that betnomi had secret collaboration with stake or you were gambling there with user funds or maybe this refund list is fullfield with fake transactions?

"Transparency post" on twitter was posted 23.02.2024 so why most of the transactions are random withdrawals from before the website was closed and only 8 of them are from the current refund plan??

I will be happy if you refund my balance and I can help you finally fulfill this transparency refund list with legitime transfer.
2  Economy / Gambling / Re: [SOLVED] Betnomi | Project status & Refund Plan! on: February 29, 2024, 11:51:12 PM

Just for clarity, any user who has been asked to complete KYC without any questions was engaged in fraud of some kind, and we generally close the accounts after the KYC, as explained above.


Regarding to your secret approach to kyc, I have never used other account in betnomi before nor have I ever been asked to pass kyc there before, It was my only one and first account there.
I was forced to complete kyc when I requested a withdrawal and meanwhile your service got shut down. Even some days before shutdown there was problem to complete it because the kyc validator was not working properly.


I understand that usually sites don't like winning players so they limit them, sometimes to the point where they can no longer play and when the player decides to withdraw his funds, he is asked to go through the KYC procedure so that he will not be able come back and to continue to bring losses to the casino by playing on other accounts. Also some regulators like MGA force on services to request KYC on user when he request withdrawal above 2000€ as anti money laundering procedure.
This is a common practice, however, your explanation is worded in such a way that winning anything in betnomi would mean a fraud.

I have completed KYC at few other casinos/bookmakers and none of them forced me to provide my sensitive details only to close my account and not pay me the balance accumulated on their services.

Regarding some of the above cases, it is interesting to hear about. Claiming you have completed KYC as if that clears you; it really doesn't.

I don't understand your passive-agressive accusation to my person. I was put on list forwarded to external risk management team for verification so I menitoned about KYC to clarify that was only one orginal refund request sent by me with all correct information. in case if there would be real fraud like other refund attempt under my username as my betnomi username was publicly shown in the scam accusation thread. You did not inform us what exactly this external team will check, whether it will be account or refund request verification. why then even mention about it in refund form?


Code:
1. First name, Last name (if you are KYC verified)
2. Username (request will be ignored if the username does not exist)


I have a slight impression that you are now trying to turn the situation around that the accounts with KYC are most liklely fraudlent and should not be paid. I'm guessing that most of these biggest amounts left belongs to users who have been asked for KYC or have already done so, isn't it a coincidence?
3  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: betnomi.com scammed 0.125BTC on: February 29, 2024, 12:40:22 AM
For anyone following this thread
at the day 29.02.2024 I still not received refund of this scam accusation.
I was put on list with 3 other users for additional checks by "external risk managment" if they will process my refund I will update this thread.
4  Economy / Gambling / Re: Betnomi | Project status & Refund Plan! on: February 29, 2024, 12:22:55 AM
We are uncertain why people continue to present their opinions as facts. The claim that we hand-select users for refunds is outright silly; every user has been refunded, except the five users we mentioned earlier. For the sake of transparency, we will release the usernames of these five users.

The refund requests of the following two users have been denied due to fraud (and this is not up for debate):

1. hubbypub
2. Pgermaine1413

These users have been forwarded to our external risk management team for verification. We will process or deny their requests based on the outcome of the third-party review.

1. Eggs96
2. faramutsi
3. Anccik
4. nutters0n

Aside from these cases, we are currently in contact with one other user privately and are actively working on resolving their case.

There is no other user or individual to whom any money is owed in any way, shape, or form. If someone has requested a refund and hasn't received it, we encourage them to come forward and provide us with a receipt.

I got kinda confused when I saw this thread has "SOLVED" tag as I'm one of the 4 users forwarded for "external risk managment check" and  I can confirm that I still not received any part of my balance which was 0.12586btc

There is my scam thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5455713.msg62373244#msg62373244 with all screens and everything described.
The refund request from my side was sent in designated time, my account passed based kyc ID verification and somehow I ended up on the "high-risk list"

If they won't process my refund I can only say that this is a very well-executed scam that they can easily straighten out by sending refunds of smaller amounts and simply calling the largest ones an attempt at extortion or at the discretion of management team as fraud.

I'm pantiently waiting for my refund but the action is constantly being postponed which doesn't really mean anything good,
If, according to the external management, there are any inaccuracies regarding my case, I would ask for a private conversation before making a decision as I'm open to talk.
5  Economy / Gambling / Re: Betnomi | Project status & Refund Plan! on: December 30, 2023, 03:14:00 AM

Our initial cut-off date for refund requests was 30 days.

However, based on community feedback, we have decided to extend it for a few more days until January 1st.
After this date, we will no longer process or respond to emails related to the refund request.
This has been a challenging process, but fortunately, we worked it out successfully.

Payments were scheduled to be made in batches, but to avoid confusion and other related issues, we have decided to process everything in one go.

Thank you for your cooperation.
You say that after 1st january you won't be responding to emails anymore. I'm a bit confused as I wrote mail for a refund but did not get any confirmation that it will be processed or even got received. I wouldn't get my balance forfeit because the amount wasn't smalll and on other hand I don't want to make duplicate request to not get omitted as a spam.
6  Economy / Gambling / Re: Betnomi | Project status & Refund Plan! on: December 01, 2023, 10:25:30 PM
Did anyone recevie any reply on mail or money refund already?
They claimed that batch of refunds should be pushed within last days but I didn't get any reply on mail nor any transfer.
7  Economy / Scam Accusations / betnomi.com scammed 0.125BTC on: June 08, 2023, 05:22:19 AM
It was my big mistake to trust betnomi.com before reading all their reviews here but after I saw their multiple scam attemps on this forum I decided to make this thread to warn others and try get my money back.

What happened:

I made 2 deposits of 0.03690btc each, that was 2x1000$ on 21th May, I wagered it mostly on e-sports bets (CS:GO) some day I won big some day I lost big but at the end my stats are 39 bets won 16 losts over 10 days of playing on their site. On 1st June I decided to withdraw my balance from their site as I saw that they limited my account to <0.1$ stakes so I requested withdrawal of 0.12586 BTC, and after that I got email that they noticed "suspicious activity" on my account. We all know that these types of scam sites notice only suspictious activity when it comes to withdraw your funds. I tried complete their KYC but everytime It got rejected.
I don't know what was the real reason of the rejection as their support seems not very helpfull at all, and could not provide simple concrete answers.
Next day after failed attempt to complete their intermidate verification they removed this option from my account, when I asked support why button does not redirect me anymore I was told that I should try start the verification via mobile phone, I've tried that but button still didn't redirect me for verification, I asked straight if they disabled it for me and support said that probably "have some restriction on my account" and their team is working on that.

They advertise as no-KYC crypto casino/sportsbook and forced me to complete their verification only to reject it and restrict my account from withdrawals.
Does require a KYC to cash out? and how much the transaction fee in BTC?

No, we do not require KCY for withdrawals. However, KYC maybe required for our Jackpots currently at (1.2 million $) for regulatory reason.
We are working with our lawyers to improve our terms and policies to minimize as much as possible required information's if any.
Their Casino/Sportsbook is only targeted for profit and milk money from players, If you are sportsbettor and making profit on it, even not the biggest sums( in my case it was little above 1000$), they will limit you pretty quick and seize your money in worst case. I highly don't recommand playing there.

Scammers Profile Link:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2532772

Reference Link:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5279745.0

Amount Scammed:
~3400$ = 0.12586 BTC (0,0738BTC DEPOSIT)

Payment Method: Bitcoins
Proof of Payment: https://i.imgur.com/piVbWIk.png    https://i.imgur.com/IYlR5Di.png     https://i.imgur.com/TnTJ1M5.png

PM/Chat Logs:
Additional Notes: Their Casino/Sportsbook is only targeted for profit and milk money from players, If you are sportsbettor and making profit on it, even not the biggest sums( in my case it was little above 1000$), they will limit you pretty quick and seize your money in worst case. I highly don't recommand playing there.

Update: in next day they said "It is global restriction we try to solve it as quickly as possible , we are very sorry to keep you wait but please be patient." as I saw many people on chat are also waiting days for their withdrawals, all these signs + their reports on this forum says it might be some kind of exit scam going on. so becarefull with this service!
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