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Is Satoshi a SHE or a HE or a Team?
What does it matter? Wtf is wrong with people these days asking questions like this? Your teacher lied to you... there ARE dumb questions and you SHOULD refrain from asking them. You´re wasting everyones time just because you decide to not bother reading information already aviable (and easy to find) and don´t deserve to get spoon-fed a answer. Or do you not know how to google for a name? The ONLY excuse you could have for this is if you where under 10 oder over 90 years of age because every 11 year old can google for information these days. |
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Its "cool" but not very profitable. I bought a 4tb HDD for gaming and i checked the profitability, is very bleh. It really does not compare to just buying proper hardware. I'm guessing the coin isint too used since its been around for quite a while and its almost unheard of.
Yeah I don´t realy do it for the profitability... I just want to see where this coin will go because of its concept... also my PC is on 24/7 anyways so it doesnt realy matter if my external HDD jumps on from time to time then goes back to sleep...  If you're leaving your PC on 24/7, then that would be a possibility to earn more Burst. A 3.5 external HDD would be more reliable and faster than a 2.5 laptop HDD. Still, if you're curious about knowing how much Burst you would mine, I suggest you visit this page: http://burstcoin.biz/calculator Have fun! 2$ per month for my 300$ HDD. Not a very good investment. Also i didn't check what the proof of capacity actually do, but if it put any use on the HDD, its really not worth the 24$ at current rate over one year. Yes it does take away space on your HDD... but since I never use my full 2TB external I just put 1.5TB aside for the proof of capacity and have 500 gigs left for whatever I need to save on the drive as a backup... To me it´s like: "It doesnt cost computing power and I have a big HDDrive anyways so why not" kinda thing... |
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It´s a (in my opinion) cheaply made online-shopping website for Bitcoins hence the name BTCS = BiTCoinShop who have pivoted into a mining facility but realy add 0 real value to Spondoolies except for millions of cash from the stock market because this cheap online shop is somehow publicly traded in the US. I realy hope Spondoolies find a way out of that relation and come back to the miners instead of cashing out on the stockmarket... they can´t be trusted anymore because now it´s no longer about real profits by making good equipment its all about "looking good" to investors and stock market people wich is also why they decided to spill the beans about the SP50 EXACTLY at the same time they finished the merger... it will make their stock look more appealing.
To be honest I wouldn´t even be all up in their shit if they would just sell the damn things but by now I´m thinking the SP50 is nowhere near ready for shipping... it was just a big hoax to drive up stock prices for BTCS wich they now own 47% of.
I´d guess the SP50 will be ready soon and thats when they will start selling to the public because it makes NO SENSE WHATSOEVER to actualy put them into BTCS´ mining facility when they can make MUCH MORE MONEY selling the damn things instead of waiting and hoping for a ROI and they know that...
Even with a pricetag of 70.000 per piece they would have sold many by now and if they realy want to mine they could still do that once the orders dry up because cash in hand is better than ROI in the future... every businessman knows that. It´s all about the HUGE stock market cash.
Bottom line, the whole: "We are selling to special customers only at this time" is a lie, they arent selling anything because nothing is ready to sell, if it was, they´d sell to everyone.
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As long as the miner stays on so it generates heat, does not get wet, has air circulation and stays clean I would think it will do fine.
I might be concerned about the wiring getting to brittle if it gets really cold.
+1 but maybe you can help the wires by making sure you connect it only with one cable instead of two (not sure every miner has this option but most miners you can use a stronger PSU and then put only one connection so a lot of power goes thru this one connection and warms itself up...) also if you overclock the hashrate the heat inside should suffice to keep the cables warm... |
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Yeah... I mean I could have asked any of the other lenders the same thing but this was simply the first one I opened... is BTCJAM ill reputed or something? I use it for microloans and my returns have been fine...
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So... why not use BTCJAM?
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Its "cool" but not very profitable. I bought a 4tb HDD for gaming and i checked the profitability, is very bleh. It really does not compare to just buying proper hardware. I'm guessing the coin isint too used since its been around for quite a while and its almost unheard of.
Yeah I don´t realy do it for the profitability... I just want to see where this coin will go because of its concept... also my PC is on 24/7 anyways so it doesnt realy matter if my external HDD jumps on from time to time then goes back to sleep... |
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Add Foxy pls ill send u invite now via steam!
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So nobody using BURSTCOIN? I think its pretty cool because of proof-of-capacity instead of work or stake...
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Everything!
On a sidenote: Isn´t it ironic the first thing one could buy every aviable variant of with BTC was/is illegal stuff?
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Could you elaborate on your point a bit please? How did you arrive at this conclusion?
How many people need to believe in a dream for it to stay alive, Newkid? I don´t know (does anybody?) however, I do know that if you remove the small-to-medium miners the dream of decentralization evaporates and BTC might die once you remove that component because it is the involvement of the people that keeps it alive, just like you and me talking about it now. Would we still be talking about this if it was just another, cheaper version of VISA where 5 big companies do everything and we have no stake in it? |
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Hello everyone I read many posts around here and operate my own 60TH Bitcoin farm but don´t comment much so please don´t disregard what I have to say for my new-member status.
This whole thing ties in nicely with a theory I´ve been developing over the past few days:
BTCS and Spondoolies merger is a terrible for Bitcoin and here´s why:
Since the day the merger was announced I watched every shareholder meeting of BTCS and most of the published numbers on the deal. It seems that Spondoolies sold its soul to the devil in order to gain access to the goldmine that is the American stock market, exchanging real value for inflated stock market value which will net the management (hundreds of) millions. So far so good.
However what this creates is: A: One HUGE new player in the market and B: A vacuum on the mining equipment side of things for the home-miner and even for medium sized operations like mine. This is the clearest shift away from the original "decentralized“ idea that Satoshi had and might deal a huge blow to the Bitcoin community as a whole. Other hardware manufacturers are way overpriced for what they can offer so anyone serious about making money through mining Bitcoins with a medium-sized operation is now pretty much dead in the water as are the many home-miners even though it is not as bad for them, because profitability often isn´t the priority here.
Now, old funds are being moved and to me this all points to one thing: Someone just realized that the original dream is dead.
I know many will hate me for saying this, including myself because I invested everything I had into my farm, but decentralization left the Bitcoin world the very second that merger was signed.
From a recent exchange with Spondoolies-Tech I know that even a 90.000 Euro ($101.000) offer could not entice them to sell one or two SP-50 and even thou I purchased 50 Miners from SP last year I do not qualify as one of the “select group of customers” to use SP terminology.
All this tells me that someone is very disappointed with where things went and it´s not just me.
Call me crazy but I believe many more funds from old wallets will be moving soon and quite possibly we won´t notice most of those movements.
On a personal note: I am clearly not unbiased in this as I feel anger towards BTCS for doing exactly what I did (finding low cost power and rented-space) but being so much more successful at it than me and regret towards SP-Tech because the real value of its business compared to BTCS is 100x higher. (They used the company revenue as a measure of how much both companies are worth, ignoring the value of technology, customer satisfaction and brand-strength involved on SP´s side of the deal.)
On a even more personal note: If you feel I hijacked this thread with my post please let me know and I will remove and reopen as a new Posting. And please excuse my rusty English, it´s been a while...
Bitcoin cannot be destroyed (or seriously affected) by 'companies' that claim to be "experts in blockchain technology". ...and the original dream is not dead!Could you elaborate on your point a bit please? How did you arrive at this conclusion? |
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Hello everyone I read many posts around here and operate my own 60TH Bitcoin farm but don´t comment much so please don´t disregard what I have to say for my new-member status.
This whole thing ties in nicely with a theory I´ve been developing over the past few days:
BTCS and Spondoolies merger is a terrible for Bitcoin and here´s why:
Since the day the merger was announced I watched every shareholder meeting of BTCS and most of the published numbers on the deal. It seems that Spondoolies sold its soul to the devil in order to gain access to the goldmine that is the American stock market, exchanging real value for inflated stock market value which will net the management (hundreds of) millions. So far so good.
However what this creates is: A: One HUGE new player in the market and B: A vacuum on the mining equipment side of things for the home-miner and even for medium sized operations like mine. This is the clearest shift away from the original "decentralized“ idea that Satoshi had and might deal a huge blow to the Bitcoin community as a whole. Other hardware manufacturers are way overpriced for what they can offer so anyone serious about making money through mining Bitcoins with a medium-sized operation is now pretty much dead in the water as are the many home-miners even though it is not as bad for them, because profitability often isn´t the priority here.
Now, old funds are being moved and to me this all points to one thing: Someone just realized that the original dream is dead.
I know many will hate me for saying this, including myself because I invested everything I had into my farm, but decentralization left the Bitcoin world the very second that merger was signed.
From a recent exchange with Spondoolies-Tech I know that even a 90.000 Euro ($101.000) offer could not entice them to sell one or two SP-50 and even thou I purchased 50 Miners from SP last year I do not qualify as one of the “select group of customers” to use SP terminology.
All this tells me that someone is very disappointed with where things went and it´s not just me.
Call me crazy but I believe many more funds from old wallets will be moving soon and quite possibly we won´t notice most of those movements.
On a personal note: I am clearly not unbiased in this as I feel anger towards BTCS for doing exactly what I did (finding low cost power and rented-space) but being so much more successful at it than me and regret towards SP-Tech because the real value of its business compared to BTCS is 100x higher. (They used the company revenue as a measure of how much both companies are worth, ignoring the value of technology, customer satisfaction and brand-strength involved on SP´s side of the deal.)
On a even more personal note: If you feel I hijacked this thread with my post please let me know and I will remove and reopen as a new Posting. And please excuse my rusty English, it´s been a while...
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Unter 10 cent kommen wir aber schon vom Stromeinkauf und Betriebskosten her nicht also müssen wir wohl hoffen, dass die Preise wieder anziehen oder zumindest die Hashrate stark sinkt... :/
Falls der Kurs steigt, geht die Diff. sofort mit nach oben. Sinkende Hashrate ist ein Wunschdenken. Die 2x wo die Hashrate gefallen ist, ist mit -0.37 und -1.37 % nicht erwähenswert, insbesondere wenn in den beiden Schritten danach die Diff. wieder um insgesamt 11.2 % gestiegen ist. Ja da hast du leider recht... momentan wird wohl kaum jemand unseren Service in Anspruch nehmen wollen... wobei: Für Leute die zur Zeit im eigenen Haus ASICs betreiben lohnt es sich allemal, denn auch 12 cent bekommt ein Privathaushalt kaum... |
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Hi Giulini! Ja leider stimmt das... mit den derzeitigen Preisen ist mining in Europa so gut wie tot... Dennoch hoffen wir natürlich, dass die Preise wieder ansteigen und falls nicht arbeiten wir bereits and einem Evacuationsplan... Wir könnten den Preis pro KW/h natürlich noch drücken, müssten dann aber unsere anderen Services und Arbeiten verrechnen und das wollten wir ursprünglich nicht... jetzt sieht es allerdings so aus als würde sich keine andere Variante mehr lohnen... Unter 10 cent kommen wir aber schon vom Stromeinkauf und Betriebskosten her nicht also müssen wir wohl hoffen, dass die Preise wieder anziehen oder zumindest die Hashrate stark sinkt... :/ Viele Grüße, Lucas |
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Hallo KloPapier!
Wir sind nahe Wien, ca. 1 Autostunde entfernt.
Viele Grüße,
Lucas
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Ok, das mit dem Platz/Aufwand versteh ich schon,
aber dafür ist doch der Verbrauch pro Gerät relevant und nicht die Rechenleistung (auch wenn da natürlich ein Zusammenhang besteht),
daher fand ich die Angabe von "min. 1TH/s" halt etwas merkwürdig, "min. 800W" kann ich hingegen nachvollziehen.
Naja ich wollte halt nicht jemanden benachteiligen nur weil er einen effektiven ASIC hat... da ich selbst Miner bin dachte ich mir: "Mich würde das stören, wenn eine Firma solche Vorgaben macht." darum hab ichs so formuliert...  Viele Grüße, Lucas |
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..., zudem können keine Geräte unter 1 TH/s untergebracht werden, da sich das für uns einfach nicht mehr rentieren würde vom Aufwand/Platz/Verdienst Verhältnis her ...
Wie hat man das denn zu verstehen? Welche Rolle spielt es denn für Euch, welche Rechenleistung ein gehosteter Miner hat? Ihr verdient doch schließlich am Stromverbrauch und nicht an der Rechenleistung, kann Euch doch egal sein, ob der Kunde für eine verbrauchte kW/h nun 1TH/s, oder nur 5MH/s bekommt, is doch sein Verlust und nich Eurer. Verluste der Kunden sind keine sehr nachhaltige Geschaeftsgrundlage Haha, genau das ist natürlich auch ein Grund!  |
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..., zudem können keine Geräte unter 1 TH/s untergebracht werden, da sich das für uns einfach nicht mehr rentieren würde vom Aufwand/Platz/Verdienst Verhältnis her ...
Wie hat man das denn zu verstehen? Welche Rolle spielt es denn für Euch, welche Rechenleistung ein gehosteter Miner hat? Ihr verdient doch schließlich am Stromverbrauch und nicht an der Rechenleistung, kann Euch doch egal sein, ob der Kunde für eine verbrauchte kW/h nun 1TH/s, oder nur 5MH/s bekommt, is doch sein Verlust und nich Eurer. Hallo lassdas! Das hängt mit dem Platz und dem Aufwand zusammen... Ein kleiner Miner der wenig Strom braucht braucht fast den selben Platz und dennoch die selben Anschlüsse etc. und da wir weder für den Platz noch für die Anschlüsse etwas verrechnen, würde uns das mehr kosten als es bringt. Viele Grüße, Lucas |
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Hi! Finde das Konzept klasse aber leider komme ich da auch auf 5.000 Euro: Housing - Housing Preismodell 1 Housing Preismodell 1 0,00€ » Gesamtleistung in 100W: 600 5.268,00€ » Anzahl Steckdosen: 100 250,00€ » Anzahl Netzwerkstecker: 50 125,00€ » Netzteil zur Miete: 0 0,00€ » Netzteil Kauf: 0 0,00€ Einrichtungsgebühren: 0,00€ Monatlich: 4.702,50€ VAT @ 20.00%: 940,50€ Heute fälliger Gesamtbetrag: 5.643,00€ Wir haben einfach zu viele Geräte um die bei jemandem unter zu stellen und dann selbst noch Gewinn zu machen scheinbar... aber für Privatleute ist euer Angebot echt klasse! Das mit dem Firmenbuch stimmt natürlich auch aber ich denke mir sobald jemand ernsthaft mit uns arbeiten möchte würde er die Daten ohnehin erhalten von daher kommts aufs gleiche raus nur ohne die Gefahr, dass ein automatisierter Forencrawler o.Ä. auf sie stößt... Vielleicht ist diese Einstellung auch Geschäftsschädigend in gewisser weise aber wir bieten den Service ohnehin nur nebenbei an... unser Hauptgeschäft ist der Betrieb der eigenen Hardware und wir könnten ohnehin nicht mehr als 3-4 Untermieter mit aufnehmen... Viele Grüße, Lucas |
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