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Furthermore, I don't know whether this man got his 100 btc back but it's not my business to contact him, I am trying to resolve my own issues on PD. In all
honestly, Stunna does seem to step up to the plate when trouble arises, but my issue is that the trouble arose in the first place. Let's see, I place my hope in this Stunna man and lets see if we get answers. Haha also have to say, Stunna your answers crack me up 'intellectually thought out comments like PD is gay' -gotta admit it was not the best use of speech
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yeah right to see blocks of 10 within 30 tosses would take prolly even longer than hitting 20 straight! ..this string game you get sweeped with streaks of red like it's somehow "fair" for the game to cheat , just because you are up!!!?  hmmm Apparently kids will be kids. If you bother informing yourself about provably fair, you would not make a fool of yourself with your posts. Seriously, you say nothing about it being rigged when you get win streaks but you get red streaks and lose its rigged. Come on grow up. You're gambling. If you can't understand the coin flip test itself, then you should stay away from playing any gambling games. No point in arguing with trolls, if someone thinks the game is not fair they can verify their rolls and mathematically prove it. This is a trustless system if you choose to make it so. You can verify your roll and prove it until there is something wrong with the verification script and then it's all like "Ooooh sorry wrong one, oops, guess we missed that in the 1 year of making PD3 and testing it." Then, a while later you learn that odds you have been wagering against were in fact not as advertised. So far, the only things that I know are 'provable' are the verification script was wrong that that thousands of people lost when in fact they should have won. THIS is proven. Also, 100 bitcoins 'vanished' from a PD account: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=791367.60This is also 'provable', thanks to blockchain Other than that, PD is actually a decent site hahahaha  That's already been solved, you can speak with the person who made the thread about what happened when he is willing to share it himself. Also, you don't have an understanding of how provable fairness works so there is no point in arguing or trying to persuade you of anything. I've added you both to ignore, BBmod has accused every single provably fair site of being unfair and xfactor pretty exclusively posts FUD about PD along with highly thought out and intellectual comments such as "PD is gay". Let's keep discussion focused please. Stunna says I am posting fud. I must be lying then right? Can't you admit the issues I mentioned are indeed real (I am personally involved with one of them) or do I need to post links to discussions about the verification system not working, or the advertised house edge being wrong? About the 100 btc, glad its resolved. I am sorry for calling PD gay, it was not the best term but hey.. people got what I was saying. 'I dont understand probability' line again.. OMG |
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Yep, nobody has any idea except you and PD mods, I am just stupid and streaks of 30 reds are everyday events:D
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yeah right to see blocks of 10 within 30 tosses would take prolly even longer than hitting 20 straight! ..this string game you get sweeped with streaks of red like it's somehow "fair" for the game to cheat , just because you are up!!!? hmmm Apparently kids will be kids. If you bother informing yourself about provably fair, you would not make a fool of yourself with your posts. Seriously, you say nothing about it being rigged when you get win streaks but you get red streaks and lose its rigged. Come on grow up. You're gambling. If you can't understand the coin flip test itself, then you should stay away from playing any gambling games. No point in arguing with trolls, if someone thinks the game is not fair they can verify their rolls and mathematically prove it. This is a trustless system if you choose to make it so. You can verify your roll and prove it until there is something wrong with the verification script and then it's all like "Ooooh sorry wrong one, oops, guess we missed that in the 1 year of making PD3 and testing it." Then, a while later you learn that odds you have been wagering against were in fact not as advertised. So far, the only things that I know are 'provable' are the verification script was wrong that that thousands of people lost when in fact they should have won. THIS is proven. Also, 100 bitcoins 'vanished' from a PD account: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=791367.60This is also 'provable', thanks to blockchain Other than that, PD is actually a decent site hahahaha |
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@BRAH:
OOhhh... I know nothing about probability. This is what stunna has told all his orks to say. I am sure you understand probability right brah? You and ALL the mods understand \phi(x) = ce^{-h^2 x^2},
I am having a little trouble understanding it too... the part:
P(A \mid B) = \frac{P(A \cap B)}{P(B)}.\,
Can you help me please, since you are so gifted in maths, and understand probability
And I stick to my word, I am sure if you were to try flip a coin until it landed 30 times in a row you would probably get struck by lighting before it happened
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OOhhh... I know nothing about probability. This is what stunna has told all his orks to say. I am sure you understand probability right brah? You and ALL the mods understand \phi(x) = ce^{-h^2 x^2},
I am having a little trouble understanding it too... the part:
P(A \mid B) = \frac{P(A \cap B)}{P(B)}.\,
Can you help me please, since you are so gifted in maths, and understand probability
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HITTING BACK TO BACK LOSS STREAKS 9+ REALLY MAKES ME THINK "FAIR" LMFAO  50% CHANCE? ~ SUUUUURE Its actually 49.5% chance. Just sayin'. you know what i'm saying ! lol ..back to back streaks of 9+ losses don't add up to "fair" anyway you slice it buck-o! :\ Check out what "provably fair" is. Ive seen a 30 red streak. Its just luck. Its not literally 1/2 bets will win if you do 2x lmfao "Ive seen a 30 red streak. Its just luck. Its not literally 1/2 bets will win if you do 2x lmfao" You've 'seen' a 30 red streak... not literally 1/2... this guy is on PD all the time and clearly a troll hired to run to their defense with these lame arguments. If you had a 30 loss streak Brah and not suspicious at all and ooh it's just luck then you make me even more suspicious for spewing such garbage. A 30 loss streak is more than 1/billion so perhaps you should are a little naive my friend. If I had a 30 loss streak I would be dubious. Im sure most people would. But you seem happy to sit at home defending PD all day even though you had a 30 loss streak and in a rather negative balance. Just luck please come to these arguments with something more that rhetoric defense. We are men talking about money here brah, not some guy living at his moms house wagering faucet all dayHITTING BACK TO BACK LOSS STREAKS 9+ REALLY MAKES ME THINK "FAIR" LMFAO 50% CHANCE? ~ SUUUUURE Its actually 49.5% chance. Just sayin'. you know what i'm saying ! lol ..back to back streaks of 9+ losses don't add up to "fair" anyway you slice it buck-o! :\ Cheer up, so far I have hit a 19 loss streak, a 20 loss streak and have just found out some of my rolls were supposed to wins but incorrectly went down as losses. Amazing this 'overlooked flaw' seemed to be in PD's favour... interesting that.. Well, if theres a database of the bets to prove which rolls would've been wins, I think a refund is somewhat fair for those losses. But if those bets you doubled on we're based of a losing starting bet then anh.
Check out what "provably fair" is. Ive seen a 30 red streak. Its just luck. Its not literally 1/2 bets will win if you do 2x lmfao
well it's very deceptive to say 49% or whatever when the game is suppose to be completely random and uncalibrated at best..more likely purposefully rigged whereas the operator controls the outcome! :\ Again please read provably fair. Also the coin toss comment @xfactor lol Well you need to learn about probabilities and test out flipping a coin 10000. The site is legit and I'm not here to defend PD blindly. It just idiots like you guys who know nothing and bitch about losing a few bets. I get you lost a lot with because you ended doubling but the only refunds that should be given are those in which the roll number got a loss when it was in fact a win, so unless it applies to your doubled bets I don't see you getting a full refund for gambling. Get off your high horse buddy, men dont cry like you guys. HITTING BACK TO BACK LOSS STREAKS 9+ REALLY MAKES ME THINK "FAIR" LMFAO 50% CHANCE? ~ SUUUUURE Its actually 49.5% chance. Just sayin'. you know what i'm saying ! lol ..back to back streaks of 9+ losses don't add up to "fair" anyway you slice it buck-o! :\ Try tossing your coin for 10 times to see if you will get 5 heads and 5 tails exactly. Or try rolling an actual dice for 12 times to see if you will get each outcome exactly twice. I mean, the losing streaks does not really prove the game is not fair. fool ..when you start winning big and the game starts "streaking out" you can just tell there is something not right about that when you start seeing back to back 10+ streaks when you start betting up ...not to mention the glitches!!! Lol at least read up on how gambling sites work. Rolls are predetermined. Too many kids keep coming onto gambling sites thinknig they'll win 2x bets 50%+ of the time when they barely started playing a few rolls. the statistic is not out of 2 rols, 10 rolls, etc It out of 1k or 10k I forget. You also have to stay on one side (over or under) and 2x all the way otherwise its different % of winning =3 So Brah, if I flip a coin 10000 times you expect a 30 loss streak.. to think it is even possible at all.. I think if I gave you a coin and told you to flip it until it land heads 30 times in a row you will be dead before it ever happens |
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Guys, when you do a billion rolls ... those 30 loss streaks eventually come out. (I've done a million rolls on another site last year.) ok so is it pre determined or a combination of the three seeds hashed together? :\
It is pre-determined by all the seeds hashed together. Here's what you do, grab the server seed, your client seed, and compute your rolls with a nonce starting from 1, go up to 1 million. You'll know the result of your rolls. (But only after you have the server seed, which is after you randomize.) Yeah.. because a million is the same as billion right? If you get 30 losses in a row, in under 1 million rolls, you would have to have a chimpanzee's brain not to be suspicious |
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HITTING BACK TO BACK LOSS STREAKS 9+ REALLY MAKES ME THINK "FAIR" LMFAO 50% CHANCE? ~ SUUUUURE Its actually 49.5% chance. Just sayin'. you know what i'm saying ! lol ..back to back streaks of 9+ losses don't add up to "fair" anyway you slice it buck-o! :\ Check out what "provably fair" is. Ive seen a 30 red streak. Its just luck. Its not literally 1/2 bets will win if you do 2x lmfao "Ive seen a 30 red streak. Its just luck. Its not literally 1/2 bets will win if you do 2x lmfao" You've 'seen' a 30 red streak... not literally 1/2... this guy is on PD all the time and clearly a troll hired to run to their defense with these lame arguments. If you had a 30 loss streak Brah and not suspicious at all and ooh it's just luck then you make me even more suspicious for spewing such garbage. A 30 loss streak is more than 1/billion so perhaps you should are a little naive my friend. If I had a 30 loss streak I would be dubious. Im sure most people would. But you seem happy to sit at home defending PD all day even though you had a 30 loss streak and in a rather negative balance. Just luck please come to these arguments with something more that rhetoric defense. We are men talking about money here brah, not some guy living at his moms house wagering faucet all day HITTING BACK TO BACK LOSS STREAKS 9+ REALLY MAKES ME THINK "FAIR" LMFAO 50% CHANCE? ~ SUUUUURE Its actually 49.5% chance. Just sayin'. you know what i'm saying ! lol ..back to back streaks of 9+ losses don't add up to "fair" anyway you slice it buck-o! :\ Cheer up, so far I have hit a 19 loss streak, a 20 loss streak and have just found out some of my rolls were supposed to wins but incorrectly went down as losses. Amazing this 'overlooked flaw' seemed to be in PD's favour... interesting that.. Well, if theres a database of the bets to prove which rolls would've been wins, I think a refund is somewhat fair for those losses. But if those bets you doubled on we're based of a losing starting bet then anh. |
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HITTING BACK TO BACK LOSS STREAKS 9+ REALLY MAKES ME THINK "FAIR" LMFAO 50% CHANCE? ~ SUUUUURE Its actually 49.5% chance. Just sayin'. you know what i'm saying ! lol ..back to back streaks of 9+ losses don't add up to "fair" anyway you slice it buck-o! :\ Cheer up, so far I have hit a 19 loss streak, a 20 loss streak and have just found out some of my rolls were supposed to wins but incorrectly went down as losses. Amazing this 'overlooked flaw' seemed to be in PD's favour... interesting that.. |
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While it is very nice that PD is paying back bets that were incorrect, my issue is this; if those bets were right and I had one, then I would not have gone on to make the next bet to double up and then lose. Altogether this is a mess. I believe I should be entitled to all my losses on PD2 since the game and my flow was fundamentally altered by PD's error. Does anyone agree on this?
Lol nope. Interesting that a user who is always on PD like its going out of fashion and clearly loves to defend the site does not agree... You dont agree that someone who has been the victim of inconsistent and WRONG / FALSE rolls should be entitled to a claim? Ha! Anyway, you can have your opinion. Next opinion please. I just don't see how its fair to refund losses for this. So basically you only want people to agree with you otherwise you'll attack them? =3 EDIT: Maybe if the doubled rolls we're affects by it specifically by the roll number as well then yeah otherwise no. But I dont think thats the case. the rest we're fair rolls, you chose to double. Well, don't mean to attack Brah, but I am talking about some real money here and I was under the impression this was a 'provably fair' site but now I am learning that I have lost certain rolls because of some 'flaw'. Jesus christ.. If I never happened to stumble on this page I would have never known. Also, the doubled rolls were already affected because I would never had doubled if I never lost the bet. Perhaps I lost and doubled again 2/3 times and lost 1btc -does this sound fair to you? Why are you defending PD when it is clear the FUCKED UP mate -excuse the french but this is what it boils down to. When you want to claim to be the worlds best bitcoin gambling site then expect some flack from people who has gambled some hard money on the site to later find they have been duped. |
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While it is very nice that PD is paying back bets that were incorrect, my issue is this; if those bets were right and I had one, then I would not have gone on to make the next bet to double up and then lose. Altogether this is a mess. I believe I should be entitled to all my losses on PD2 since the game and my flow was fundamentally altered by PD's error. Does anyone agree on this?
Lol nope. Interesting that a user who is always on PD like its going out of fashion and clearly loves to defend the site does not agree... You dont agree that someone who has been the victim of inconsistent and WRONG / FALSE rolls should be entitled to a claim? Ha! Anyway, you can have your opinion. Next opinion please. |
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While it is very nice that PD is paying back bets that were incorrect, my issue is this; if those bets were right and I had one, then I would not have gone on to make the next bet to double up and then lose. Altogether this is a mess. I believe I should be entitled to all my losses on PD2 since the game and my flow was fundamentally altered by PD's error. Does anyone agree on this?
Ur game flow was fundamentally altered by 1.05% house edge instead of 1% ? U would bet differently if u known its 1.05% ? Maybe, but its impossible to know/prove , and impossible to go back in time . All it can be done is payout that bets that ware affected by that extra 0.05% that we didn't know of . Um, yes Mirco that is exactly what I am saying. Does it not make sense or something? If I had not lost a .001 bet which was 45.5 then I would not have gone on to double my bet and lose an additional .002 -in other words if I had won the entire streak would have been different and may not have killed me |
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While it is very nice that PD is paying back bets that were incorrect, my issue is this; if those bets were right and I had one, then I would not have gone on to make the next bet to double up and then lose. Altogether this is a mess. I believe I should be entitled to all my losses on PD2 since the game and my flow was fundamentally altered by PD's error. Does anyone agree on this?
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Sooo.. what can we do. I have lost btc on PD and now I believe the ods where not as advertised. I say I will form a coalition of troops and demand money back.
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Dooglus, I don't have a screentshot, but you can believe me. 20 consecutive losses :/ If I can get my primedice history I could prove it. In fact, it is funny you commented... I heard it once rumored that you said there are more high wins than low, so I have on bet high based on this information... :p I set on autobet, went to make some coffee and have a smoke and when I came back my heart almost stopped when I saw I had already busted  I had something like .01 left and went all in, won on my 21st roll then soon lost it all.. 20 losses in a row.. yeah, I would accept if it happened after a while, but after I make a coffee and have a cigi?!! The chances are like 1/850000 man wtf!? I don't mind who does and who does not believe me, a friend of mine also had a 20 loss streak on 2x payout. There is something fishy about PD... as soon as you bet anything you just loose. All the little snappers and shrimp who live on the faucet will suck stunnas cock and go everywhere saying what a good website it is, but they aint never lost any real money and they just happy to get 500sat a night. I seen these guys get all sad when they loose like .0005 LOL thats like not even 5 cents All I can say is this: I DONT KNOW IF PRIMEDICE IS CHEATING, BUT IF I HAD TO WAGER ON IT, I WOULD SAY THERE IS SOME KIND OF MANIPULATION GOING ON. THE 'PROVABLY FAIR' THING IS A FALLACY DESIGNED TO MAKE YOU FEEL SECURE, BUT ASK YOURSELF, CAN YOU REALLY PROVE IT'S PROVABLY FAIR OR ARE YOU JUST TAKING THE WORD OF MANY PEOPLE WHO SEEM TO AGREE BECAUSE THEY ARE TOO INSECURE TO ADMIT THEY DO NOT UNDERSTAND THE COMPLEXITIES OF PROGRAMMING AND HACKING AND WHAT IS AND WHAT IS NOT POSSIBLE. Of course, many little snappers will come here and say jajaja go look you can 'verify your bets' and I reply: STFU -you probably live in your moms basement, get a life and realise people cheat and the world is unfair, and in my opinion bitcoin in general is the perfect place for this kind of cheating and foul play to occur. In future, I have decided to go to a normal casino or play poker, PD is pile of kak and I think they are cheating. Now folks, that is just my opinion and last time I checked its a free world so I don't care what you say. I have seen many strange stories about PD lately and now after this 20 loss streak I have become dubious too. I not that I can prove they are cheating, but I just have become.... dubious.... |
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Guys...
I am a hacker and I have managed to get many details of site owner.. which I might say he tried to hide very much.
Please contact me if interested in forming a coalition to render this site to justice.
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I think the owner of the site has trolls on hire to come back and defend his site with the stupid 'you dont understand maths or probability' and then post some link to probability on wiki which is basically a page of compicated math that I promise very few people understand. The probability of me lossing 20 times in a row is just under 1/million so I have a hard time accepting that I lost 20 times in under 500 rolls.
Oh -I am just too stupid to undetstand right?
Primedice sucks donkey balls, I suggest you use another site
Also.. they made a thing about gaining levels and experience from wager and chat - I build mine up to 2200 sat and then they took it down to 1700 (not a lot I know but a deal is a deal)
Furthermore... I thought about playing reverse martingale on the site, in otherwords doubling on every win from faucet. I have had so many losses of 10 in a row on 2x payout so the reverse must be true right? I should eventually get 10 wins in a row? Well, THOUSANDS of rolls later and no success. The only time you get 10+ win in row is when you wager nothing.
I cannot prove my suspicions but I am convinced the site changes the ods based on how much is wagered... I cannot prove this.. it is just what I have come to beleive from almost 1 millions rolls -so I speak from experience so to say
To summarise: PD is gay, stay away
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I put .2 on primedice the other day, though I would play a little martingale on 17sat base bet (covers for 20 losses). I lost within 15 mins, or under 500 rolls. This site is pure BS and I strongly suggest you stay away, rather use justdice or something -or better yet -keep ur bitcoin so these a**holes cant steal it
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