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ok so is it pre determined or a combination of the three seeds hashed together? :\

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[Brah]

fool ..when you start winning big and the game starts "streaking out" you can just tell there is something not right about that when you start seeing back to back 10+ streaks when you start betting up ...not to mention the glitches!!! 

So you had been winning big? So you must have had some pretty good winning streaks then huh? Do you think winning all of those times in a row on win streaks should be checked out or is rigged? It is variance man. In long sessions of bets you will usually have good winning streaks, losing streaks, and everything in between. Sounds like you should have cashed out when you were up winning big...  And did you verify your bets? What did you see when you checked them? Let me know.

Sounds like another greedy kid crying once he loses xD

[Dabs]

Guys, when you do a billion rolls ... those 30 loss streaks eventually come out. (I've done a million rolls on another site last year.)

ok so is it pre determined or a combination of the three seeds hashed together? :\

It is pre-determined by all the seeds hashed together. Here's what you do, grab the server seed, your client seed, and compute your rolls with a nonce starting from 1, go up to 1 million. You'll know the result of your rolls. (But only after you have the server seed, which is after you randomize.)

[BBmmBB]

fool ..when you start winning big and the game starts "streaking out" you can just tell there is something not right about that when you start seeing back to back 10+ streaks when you start betting up ...not to mention the glitches!!! 

So you had been winning big? So you must have had some pretty good winning streaks then huh? Do you think winning all of those times in a row on win streaks should be checked out or is rigged? It is variance man. In long sessions of bets you will usually have good winning streaks, losing streaks, and everything in between. Sounds like you should have cashed out when you were up winning big...  And did you verify your bets? What did you see when you checked them? Let me know.

it's cat and mouse ..when you have a way of consistently beating the system mods call it "hacking" lmfao ;-) *so they override all this to make sure you lose!!!

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Guys, when you do a billion rolls ... those 30 loss streaks eventually come out. (I've done a million rolls on another site last year.)

ok so is it pre determined or a combination of the three seeds hashed together? :\

It is pre-determined by all the seeds hashed together. ...

^it cannot be if changing the seed changes the outcome! ...what are you smoking? 

[Minnlo]

BBmmBB, you can change the client seed at any moment, and then the site won't be able to control the bet results.

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BBmmBB, you can change the client seed at any moment, and then the site won't be able to control the bet results.

^so you vote to say it's not pre-determined!? 

[xfactorx]

Guys, when you do a billion rolls ... those 30 loss streaks eventually come out. (I've done a million rolls on another site last year.)

ok so is it pre determined or a combination of the three seeds hashed together? :\

It is pre-determined by all the seeds hashed together. Here's what you do, grab the server seed, your client seed, and compute your rolls with a nonce starting from 1, go up to 1 million. You'll know the result of your rolls. (But only after you have the server seed, which is after you randomize.)

Yeah.. because a million is the same as billion right? If you get 30 losses in a row, in under 1 million rolls, you would have to have a chimpanzee's brain not to be suspicious

[Brah]

Guys, when you do a billion rolls ... those 30 loss streaks eventually come out. (I've done a million rolls on another site last year.)

ok so is it pre determined or a combination of the three seeds hashed together? :\

It is pre-determined by all the seeds hashed together. Here's what you do, grab the server seed, your client seed, and compute your rolls with a nonce starting from 1, go up to 1 million. You'll know the result of your rolls. (But only after you have the server seed, which is after you randomize.)

Yeah.. because a million is the same as billion right? If you get 30 losses in a row, in under 1 million rolls, you would have to have a chimpanzee's brain not to be suspicious

Are you...are you "special"? Seriously the chances 49.5% out of 1 million rolls is just 495000 wins, it doesnt mean you wont have lose streaks. Bet you woukldn't bitch if it were win streaks but if its reds "has to be rigged"?

You're an angry kid just because you can't comprehend provably fair gambling

[xfactorx]

HITTING BACK TO BACK LOSS STREAKS 9+ REALLY MAKES ME THINK "FAIR" LMFAO  

50% CHANCE? ~ SUUUUURE

Its actually 49.5% chance.

Just sayin'.

you know what i'm saying ! lol ..back to back streaks of 9+ losses don't add up to "fair" anyway you slice it  buck-o! :\

Check out what "provably fair" is. Ive seen a 30 red streak. Its just luck. Its not literally 1/2 bets will win if you do 2x lmfao


"Ive seen a 30 red streak. Its just luck. Its not literally 1/2 bets will win if you do 2x lmfao"

You've 'seen' a 30 red streak... not literally 1/2... this guy is on PD all the time and clearly a troll hired to run to their defense with these lame arguments.  If you had a 30 loss streak Brah and not suspicious at all and ooh it's just luck then you make me even more suspicious for spewing such garbage. A 30 loss streak is more than 1/billion so perhaps you should are a little naive my friend. If I had a 30 loss streak I would be dubious. Im sure most people would. But you seem happy to sit at home defending PD all day even though you had a 30 loss streak and in a rather negative balance. Just luck please come to these arguments with something more that rhetoric defense. We are men talking about money here brah, not some guy living at his moms house wagering faucet all day

HITTING BACK TO BACK LOSS STREAKS 9+ REALLY MAKES ME THINK "FAIR" LMFAO  

50% CHANCE? ~ SUUUUURE

Its actually 49.5% chance.

Just sayin'.

you know what i'm saying ! lol ..back to back streaks of 9+ losses don't add up to "fair" anyway you slice it  buck-o! :\

Cheer up, so far I have hit a 19 loss streak, a 20 loss streak and have just found out some of my rolls were supposed to wins but incorrectly went down as losses. Amazing this 'overlooked flaw' seemed to be in PD's favour... interesting that..

Well, if theres a database of the bets to prove which rolls would've been wins, I think a refund is somewhat fair for those losses. But if those bets you doubled on we're based of a losing starting bet then anh.

Check out what "provably fair" is. Ive seen a 30 red streak. Its just luck. Its not literally 1/2 bets will win if you do 2x lmfao

well it's very deceptive to say 49% or whatever when the game is suppose to be completely random and uncalibrated at best..more likely purposefully rigged whereas the operator controls the outcome! :\

Again please read provably fair. Also the coin toss comment


@xfactor lol Well you need to learn about probabilities and test out flipping a coin 10000.

The site is legit and I'm not here to defend PD blindly. It just idiots like you guys who know nothing and bitch about losing a few bets. I get you lost a lot with because you ended doubling but the only refunds that should be given are those in which the roll number got a loss when it was in fact a win, so unless it applies to your doubled bets I don't see you getting a full refund for gambling.

Get off your high horse buddy, men dont cry like you guys.

HITTING BACK TO BACK LOSS STREAKS 9+ REALLY MAKES ME THINK "FAIR" LMFAO 

50% CHANCE? ~ SUUUUURE

Its actually 49.5% chance.

Just sayin'.

you know what i'm saying ! lol ..back to back streaks of 9+ losses don't add up to "fair" anyway you slice it  buck-o! :\

Try tossing your coin for 10 times to see if you will get 5 heads and 5 tails exactly.
Or try rolling an actual dice for 12 times to see if you will get each outcome exactly twice.

I mean, the losing streaks does not really prove the game is not fair.

fool ..when you start winning big and the game starts "streaking out" you can just tell there is something not right about that when you start seeing back to back 10+ streaks when you start betting up ...not to mention the glitches!!! 

Lol at least read up on how gambling sites work. Rolls are predetermined. Too many kids keep coming onto gambling sites thinknig they'll win 2x bets 50%+ of the time when they barely started playing a few rolls. the statistic is not out of 2 rols, 10 rolls, etc It out of 1k or 10k I forget.

You also have to stay on one side (over or under) and 2x all the way otherwise its different % of winning =3

So Brah, if I flip a coin 10000 times you expect a 30 loss streak.. to think it is even possible at all.. I think if I gave you a coin and told you to flip it until it land heads 30 times in a row you will be dead before it ever happens

[Brah]

HITTING BACK TO BACK LOSS STREAKS 9+ REALLY MAKES ME THINK "FAIR" LMFAO  

50% CHANCE? ~ SUUUUURE

Its actually 49.5% chance.

Just sayin'.

you know what i'm saying ! lol ..back to back streaks of 9+ losses don't add up to "fair" anyway you slice it  buck-o! :\

Check out what "provably fair" is. Ive seen a 30 red streak. Its just luck. Its not literally 1/2 bets will win if you do 2x lmfao


"Ive seen a 30 red streak. Its just luck. Its not literally 1/2 bets will win if you do 2x lmfao"

You've 'seen' a 30 red streak... not literally 1/2... this guy is on PD all the time and clearly a troll hired to run to their defense with these lame arguments.  If you had a 30 loss streak Brah and not suspicious at all and ooh it's just luck then you make me even more suspicious for spewing such garbage. A 30 loss streak is more than 1/billion so perhaps you should are a little naive my friend. If I had a 30 loss streak I would be dubious. Im sure most people would. But you seem happy to sit at home defending PD all day even though you had a 30 loss streak and in a rather negative balance. Just luck please come to these arguments with something more that rhetoric defense. We are men talking about money here brah, not some guy living at his moms house wagering faucet all day

HITTING BACK TO BACK LOSS STREAKS 9+ REALLY MAKES ME THINK "FAIR" LMFAO  

50% CHANCE? ~ SUUUUURE

Its actually 49.5% chance.

Just sayin'.

you know what i'm saying ! lol ..back to back streaks of 9+ losses don't add up to "fair" anyway you slice it  buck-o! :\

Cheer up, so far I have hit a 19 loss streak, a 20 loss streak and have just found out some of my rolls were supposed to wins but incorrectly went down as losses. Amazing this 'overlooked flaw' seemed to be in PD's favour... interesting that..

Well, if theres a database of the bets to prove which rolls would've been wins, I think a refund is somewhat fair for those losses. But if those bets you doubled on we're based of a losing starting bet then anh.

Check out what "provably fair" is. Ive seen a 30 red streak. Its just luck. Its not literally 1/2 bets will win if you do 2x lmfao

well it's very deceptive to say 49% or whatever when the game is suppose to be completely random and uncalibrated at best..more likely purposefully rigged whereas the operator controls the outcome! :\

Again please read provably fair. Also the coin toss comment


@xfactor lol Well you need to learn about probabilities and test out flipping a coin 10000.

The site is legit and I'm not here to defend PD blindly. It just idiots like you guys who know nothing and bitch about losing a few bets. I get you lost a lot with because you ended doubling but the only refunds that should be given are those in which the roll number got a loss when it was in fact a win, so unless it applies to your doubled bets I don't see you getting a full refund for gambling.

Get off your high horse buddy, men dont cry like you guys.

HITTING BACK TO BACK LOSS STREAKS 9+ REALLY MAKES ME THINK "FAIR" LMFAO  

50% CHANCE? ~ SUUUUURE

Its actually 49.5% chance.

Just sayin'.

you know what i'm saying ! lol ..back to back streaks of 9+ losses don't add up to "fair" anyway you slice it  buck-o! :\

Try tossing your coin for 10 times to see if you will get 5 heads and 5 tails exactly.
Or try rolling an actual dice for 12 times to see if you will get each outcome exactly twice.

I mean, the losing streaks does not really prove the game is not fair.

fool ..when you start winning big and the game starts "streaking out" you can just tell there is something not right about that when you start seeing back to back 10+ streaks when you start betting up ...not to mention the glitches!!!  

Lol at least read up on how gambling sites work. Rolls are predetermined. Too many kids keep coming onto gambling sites thinknig they'll win 2x bets 50%+ of the time when they barely started playing a few rolls. the statistic is not out of 2 rols, 10 rolls, etc It out of 1k or 10k I forget.

You also have to stay on one side (over or under) and 2x all the way otherwise its different % of winning =3

So Brah, if I flip a coin 10000 times you expect a 30 loss streak.. to think it is even possible at all.. I think if I gave you a coin and told you to flip it until it land heads 30 times in a row you will be dead before it ever happens

You burned yourself here. You know nothing about probability and think bad streaks mean the site is rigged. Well I'm done trying to get you to actually read and comprehend provably fair gambling.

I hope you learn sooner than later. Good luck being a skid.

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yeah right to see blocks of 10 within 30 tosses would take prolly even longer than hitting 20 straight! ..this string game you get sweeped with streaks of red like it's somehow "fair" for the game to cheat , just because you are up!!!?   hmmm

[xfactorx]

OOhhh... I know nothing about probability. This is what stunna has told all his orks to say. I am sure you understand probability right brah? You and ALL the mods understand \phi(x) = ce^{-h^2 x^2},

I am having a little trouble understanding it too... the part:
P(A \mid B) = \frac{P(A \cap B)}{P(B)}.\,

Can you help me please, since you are so gifted in maths, and understand probability

[Brah]

yeah right to see blocks of 10 within 30 tosses would take prolly even longer than hitting 20 straight! ..this string game you get sweeped with streaks of red like it's somehow "fair" for the game to cheat , just because you are up!!!?   hmmm

Apparently kids will be kids. If you bother informing yourself about provably fair, you would not make a fool of yourself with your posts. Seriously, you say nothing about it being rigged when you get win streaks but you get red streaks and lose its rigged.

Come on grow up. You're gambling. If you can't understand the coin flip test itself, then you should stay away from playing any gambling games.

[Stunna]

yeah right to see blocks of 10 within 30 tosses would take prolly even longer than hitting 20 straight! ..this string game you get sweeped with streaks of red like it's somehow "fair" for the game to cheat , just because you are up!!!?   hmmm

Apparently kids will be kids. If you bother informing yourself about provably fair, you would not make a fool of yourself with your posts. Seriously, you say nothing about it being rigged when you get win streaks but you get red streaks and lose its rigged.

Come on grow up. You're gambling. If you can't understand the coin flip test itself, then you should stay away from playing any gambling games.

No point in arguing with trolls, if someone thinks the game is not fair they can verify their rolls and mathematically prove it. This is a trustless system if you choose to make it so.

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yeah right to see blocks of 10 within 30 tosses would take prolly even longer than hitting 20 straight! ..this string game you get sweeped with streaks of red like it's somehow "fair" for the game to cheat , just because you are up!!!?   hmmm

Apparently kids will be kids. If you bother informing yourself about provably fair, you would not make a fool of yourself with your posts. Seriously, you say nothing about it being rigged when you get win streaks but you get red streaks and lose its rigged.

Come on grow up. You're gambling. If you can't understand the coin flip test itself, then you should stay away from playing any gambling games.

i have one question ! : Who invented this term "provably fair" ?

..i bet you need to stfu now ! :\

[BBmmBB]

yeah right to see blocks of 10 within 30 tosses would take prolly even longer than hitting 20 straight! ..this string game you get sweeped with streaks of red like it's somehow "fair" for the game to cheat , just because you are up!!!?   hmmm

Apparently kids will be kids. If you bother informing yourself about provably fair, you would not make a fool of yourself with your posts. Seriously, you say nothing about it being rigged when you get win streaks but you get red streaks and lose its rigged.

Come on grow up. You're gambling. If you can't understand the coin flip test itself, then you should stay away from playing any gambling games.

No point in arguing with trolls, if someone thinks the game is not fair they can verify their rolls and mathematically prove it. This is a trustless system if you choose to make it so.

nope gotta trust you! 

[Brah]

yeah right to see blocks of 10 within 30 tosses would take prolly even longer than hitting 20 straight! ..this string game you get sweeped with streaks of red like it's somehow "fair" for the game to cheat , just because you are up!!!?   hmmm

Apparently kids will be kids. If you bother informing yourself about provably fair, you would not make a fool of yourself with your posts. Seriously, you say nothing about it being rigged when you get win streaks but you get red streaks and lose its rigged.

Come on grow up. You're gambling. If you can't understand the coin flip test itself, then you should stay away from playing any gambling games.

No point in arguing with trolls, if someone thinks the game is not fair they can verify their rolls and mathematically prove it. This is a trustless system if you choose to make it so.

Yeah, but I got a thing against these type of smart people. Been a horde of them lately in chat as well. I'll try ignoring the usual trolls.

[xfactorx]

@BRAH:

OOhhh... I know nothing about probability. This is what stunna has told all his orks to say. I am sure you understand probability right brah? You and ALL the mods understand \phi(x) = ce^{-h^2 x^2},

I am having a little trouble understanding it too... the part:
P(A \mid B) = \frac{P(A \cap B)}{P(B)}.\,

Can you help me please, since you are so gifted in maths, and understand probability

And I stick to my word, I am sure if you were to try flip a coin until it landed 30 times in a row you would probably get struck by lighting before it happened

[xfactorx]

yeah right to see blocks of 10 within 30 tosses would take prolly even longer than hitting 20 straight! ..this string game you get sweeped with streaks of red like it's somehow "fair" for the game to cheat , just because you are up!!!?   hmmm

Apparently kids will be kids. If you bother informing yourself about provably fair, you would not make a fool of yourself with your posts. Seriously, you say nothing about it being rigged when you get win streaks but you get red streaks and lose its rigged.

Come on grow up. You're gambling. If you can't understand the coin flip test itself, then you should stay away from playing any gambling games.

No point in arguing with trolls, if someone thinks the game is not fair they can verify their rolls and mathematically prove it. This is a trustless system if you choose to make it so.

You can verify your roll and prove it until there is something wrong with the verification script and then it's all like "Ooooh sorry wrong one, oops, guess we missed that in the 1 year of making PD3 and testing it." Then, a while later you learn that odds you have been wagering against were in fact not as advertised. So far, the only things that I know are 'provable' are the verification script was wrong that that thousands of people lost when in fact they should have won. THIS is proven. 

Also, 100 bitcoins 'vanished' from a PD account:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=791367.60

This is also 'provable', thanks to blockchain

Other than that, PD is actually a decent site hahahaha