It seems that holographic principle might have something to do with the fact that position of an object is a result of its vibrational make-up. In that sense, every object is omni-present, but only appears to be in a particular position. The same way any function (even those bounded in space, like wavelets) can be represented as a Fourier series consisting only of simple sine waves stretching towards infinity in both directions. Who knows, maybe one day we will have teleporting capabilities by simply changing location variables of the object. Hopefully something a bit more advanced than this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=axhw-3oFcIk
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God and the Bible are against channeling. Don't kryon my shoulder. I liked the pun, thank you! I wonder why Bible (and God) would be against channelling? Does it really matter how information comes through? Did you know that composing music or writing poetry is a form of channelling too? Glad you liked the pun. I don't know all the reasons why God is against channeling, but here is what I can say simply. - Is the information that comes through true? - Will the "channel" always be truthful if I get into the habit of listening? - In some things we should take God at face value, and listen to Him directly. The snake in the Garden was reasonably truthful. But listening to him brought about the truth in ways that we rather would not have had. I think God created Snake, so that he could play with it That was the only way to start knowing itself - life is a game and God is no exception. What I understand by now is that all truths are true. If someone believes in God who judges and punishes, that's the God they will face after death. If a person doesn't believe in afterlife at all, he/she won't wake up until the next reincarnation (of course Bible is against that as well). Beliefs matter. They are the axes of a powerful gyroscope that defines your reality/experience and might not be so easy to change. Wanting or saying that you believe does not equate to believing. That's why the correct order is "Believing is Seeing", not the other way around: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NtRQXOcn7oIhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YfDLEiwLwQEHowever, God's faith (believing) is way stronger than man's. Believe yourself into having an extra pair of arms, one growing out of each side of your body, about half way between your shoulders and your belly button. If you can believe this into happening, you got the power. God believed the whole universe into being from a standing start of nothing. The point? If God believes it this way or that, you and I don't stand a chance believing it some other way. Check out what God says, and believe it His way. What if God believed the whole Universe into being for just one reason - to forget that he is God and live a life of a man. What if God got bored (by Alan Watts): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ckiNNgfMKcQ
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God and the Bible are against channeling. Don't kryon my shoulder. I liked the pun, thank you! I wonder why Bible (and God) would be against channelling? Does it really matter how information comes through? Did you know that composing music or writing poetry is a form of channelling too? What I understand by now is that all truths are true. If someone believes in God who judges and punishes, that's the God they will face after death. If a person doesn't believe in afterlife at all, he/she won't wake up until the next reincarnation (of course Bible is against that as well). Beliefs matter. They are the axes of a powerful gyroscope that defines your reality/experience and might not be so easy to change. Wanting or saying that you believe does not equate to believing. That's why the correct order is "Believing is Seeing", not the other way around: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NtRQXOcn7oIhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YfDLEiwLwQE
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It seems that I have an aversion to dying. Perhaps when I get a bit older, and things start to fall apart in a more serious way, maybe then I will enjoy embracing death.
Probably, this life was never meant to end. Probably we were meant to grow mentally, spiritually, and in physical capability, way beyond what we understand. Probably we were meant to populate the stars at some time in a future time of this eternity.
The thing that we did was to turn from God. We listened to some words from another of His creations... the snake. The snake deceived us into following it rather than God. When we did this, we not only lost life (essentially) but we also lost the growing up to take hold of the stars and the universe. More than that, we gained death.
At some point I realized that existence is identical to having an experience. In that sense physical death is just one of many experiences of the Infinite Creator. It is like waking up from the dream, physical dream that is. But experience doesn't stop there, because non-experience cannot be had. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-DLSyU7y97M"Now with that settled, what do we do? The answer is simple -" turn back to God in the way that He offers for us to turn back. God isn't only a collective. He is also an essence. He is also a personal identity to Himself. He invites us to become part of the collective that He is, but if we do not follow His essence, we cannot. Those who are part of His collective now, if they turn from His essence, will fall out of being part of the God collective. God in His person will never fall from the essence. He is the only one who can never fall from His own essence. It is probably easier to understand from perspective of vibratory spectrum and resonance. One might argue that God is the whole spectrum of vibrations, others will say that God is an infinite frequency, that's what allows it to sample any other frequency and be omniscient in that sense. But one cannot exist without the other. All numbers exist at once, there is no infinity without finite. Carrier frequency always needs to be higher than the signal it carries. In that sense "I am" presence is the infinite frequency we all share, but we can only know ourselves as a particular finite frequency. In other words, in order to be, you need to be specific. Infinite frequency is static all other frequencies are alive. Thus by increasing your frequency you learn more about yourself (turn to God), lowering it makes you more forgetful (turning away from God). It is possible that there are barriers between certain frequency bands and it requires some effort to push through. Physical and spiritual experiences might be those frequency bands separated by the Veil. The idea of Prime Radiant might also help shed some light on the matter (pun intended): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PSzyWcn2qIk
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I have an idea. What if instead of moving to Knowledge Age, we move straight to Joyful Age. In Joyful Age your joy becomes money. It's inherently decentralized system because everyone can generate joy by doing things that they feel most passionate about. Think of it! What is more joyful - to know something or to learn something? What is more joyful - a static state or a process? Maybe that's why a system, where different competing incompatible paradigms alternate between each other, exists. It's called time. I will tell you the secret - time never started and it will never end, because it runs in a circle. Everything is created to have joy and yet you are given a choice to not have it. See, in order to have joy of "rising from the ashes", for example, we need to create ashes first and then convince ourselves to get there. The problem is that sometimes this process takes so long that by the time we are there we have completely forgotten what the purpose was in the first place So instead of waiting that someone will come and give us joy, why don't we generate joy ourselves and share it with others? The Universe will take care of the rest, she is a grown girl after all, she knows how to handle herself.
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@BitcoinFreak12 I had a similar insight about the new societal structure a couple of years ago: "consensus-based society with provable trust-free voting" https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=124477In short global society is organized as a hierarchy of consensus groups starting with the minimal cell - family. Smaller consesnus groups are then free to join or leave larger ones. I'm still of the opinion that transparency in communication will help the whole system to self-organize in the best possible way. Collaboration requires transparency of communication. Hey i`m open to any liberty based ideas, I myself am an anarcho-capitalist, but i`d accept even a libertarian world rather than the socialist-corporatist that i`m living in now. So perhaps we can build the liberty world step by step, and then we can decide how far we will go, full anarcho-capitalist or we would retain a smaller state, but a very small one in a form of a libertarian fully open society. The issue now remains to take the first step, and dont hesitate One pointing out though, i dont consider the family as the basic unit, i consider the individual the basis. Because the family can be abusive, or just not exist, orphans, or just simply people who like individuality like I do. So for example i am not married and i would never marry, because i consider the marriage a socialist-marxist thing, ,a collective household bullsh*t,because you have to share the income and the property, the responsability (household debt),and else, and if you divorce you are forced to give up half, which is a very communist principle. I`d much happily live with a woman as a couple or girlfriend relation, than to bind myself legally into a communist stupidity. Now you might think its crazy, but its just my view of marriage, i dont like socialist/communist stuff I agree with what you said. My example of family was in terms of a minimal group that required consensus and collaboration, but not in a legal sense of the word. Being an individual is perfectly fine too. Now regarding first steps and taking action. The system I described would work best if done bottom-up, but reality is such that we already have power clusters operating in the shadow that would likely prevent any competition in this space. So the most appropriate action in our situation is to start opening them up, step by step, little by little. The only way to let black hole evaporate, is to stop feeding it, which means moving away from obscure financial system currently in place to an open and transparent one like Bitcoin. Anonymity will always be there as a countermeasure, but for now we need to get more open to restore the balance and not let our star system to collapse into another black hole. Here is my Christmas gift for everyone: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-rxe9Ayb8cEnjoy!
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Hollow earth theory says that there is a great central sun inside the earth, and there are vast areas of land on the inner surface of the sphere, filled with life... even human life. Hollow Earth theory shouldn't be taken literally: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z7Go1aafNVEI think the idea of a Great Central Sun is a symbol of the greatest attractor - the frequency of unconditional love. It is possible to understand that unconditional love (thick, true) is greater than, for example, unconditional hate (hollow, pretending), because you are so unconditionally loved that you are given a choice to believe that you are not loved at all. There is always a choice, only Transcendental (beyond conditionality) True Love could give you one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJD5-R_HPCcExpressing it in terms of taste, one might argue that love is evil, because it's too "sweet" and one prefers "bitter" instead, but then isn't it "sweet" to be able to choose "bitter" if that is the preference? See? Love is the greatest attractor, we need to struggle to keep away from it, we literally "fall in love": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8igZ4KJPFoOne more analogy in terms of creating and destroying. One collectively cannot destroy more than it has created. At the level of zero point One can either stand still or start creating as there is nothing to destroy yet. One cannot destroy itself, because existence is self-contained (it's turtles all the way down). Edited [2015-01-29] for clarity after further consideration. So far, reality for each of us is, we are born, we live and we die. The rest of it is simply stuff that we do in life. The rest of it is simply ideas, and on occasion, theories. What beyond this do we understand? Being born, living and dying are all just experiences that we wanted to have. That's why we are here on Earth right now. Life is like a game session. As you probably have already figured out non-existence doesn't exist. It means that we exist because we have to: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=njKs8v61kMU Everything we do including doubting our own existence only reinforces it, there is no way out! Now with that settled, what do we do? The answer is very simple - follow your excitement! Act with integrity, because receiver of your action is also you. God is a collective, because only parts of the whole can actually see reflections of themselves in all other parts and thus have an "experience". Thus God can only exist as all of its parts. Every single part is integral to the whole, that's why God never judges, as all its parts give birth back to God: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7wM3doxMJ6s
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Hollow earth theory says that there is a great central sun inside the earth, and there are vast areas of land on the inner surface of the sphere, filled with life... even human life. Hollow Earth theory shouldn't be taken literally: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z7Go1aafNVEI think the idea of a Great Central Sun is a symbol of the greatest attractor - the frequency of unconditional love. It is possible to understand that unconditional love (thick, true) is greater than, for example, unconditional hate (hollow, pretending), because you are so unconditionally loved that you are given a choice to believe that you are not loved at all. There is always a choice, only Transcendental (beyond conditionality) True Love could give you one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJD5-R_HPCcExpressing it in terms of taste, one might argue that love is evil, because it's too "sweet" and one prefers "bitter" instead, but then isn't it "sweet" to be able to choose "bitter" if that is the preference? See? Love is the greatest attractor, we need to struggle to keep away from it, we literally "fall in love": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8igZ4KJPFoOne more analogy in terms of creating and destroying. One collectively cannot destroy more than it has created. At the level of zero point One can either stand still or start creating as there is nothing to destroy yet. One cannot destroy itself, because existence is self-contained (it's turtles all the way down). Edited [2015-01-29] for clarity after further consideration.
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The answer to everything, is of course to find the question! "Who am I really?" might be a good start, and down the rabbit hole we go Everything is seeded from Source - a perpetual universal oscillator, a great central Sun, a living paradox that can never settle to rest. Regarding humans: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6R6bRYtYhCM
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every single law would be in a civil contract format, no law shall be forced on anyone, based on the anarchist voluntarist principles. ... Its just that easy
I admire your optimism Bitcoinfreak, but I think you have a lot of misplaced faith in the lazy and economically unviable masses.
And I think that you severely underestimate the potential in the human race Sorry BitcoinFreak12 your world fails for the same reason that communism fails (an utter misunderstanding of human nature. The communists had a beautiful dream too. If only the workers of the world unite and throw off their chains and we will all have such an abundance of goods. Development with be unfettered with productive forces so great everyon's needs will be met. From each according to his abilities to each according to his needs. A perfect world. Starry eyed blind faith in the wonders of human benevolence and potential will lead you right where it took the communists... megadeath and Stalin. That's why money and state must be separate. Before blockchain came along this was achieved with banks, but that quickly converged to centralization. PoW secured blockchain allows competiton for control over money in a neutral way judged by an algorithm. Maybe land ownership will also be tracked via blockchain in the future, thus reducing the need for goverment even further. Though enforcing the land ownership according to blockchain might still require some physical security operation, which should be transparent and self-sustainable (read: taxes) so that it doesn't turn rogue.
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@BitcoinFreak12 I had a similar insight about the new societal structure a couple of years ago: "consensus-based society with provable trust-free voting" https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=124477In short global society is organized as a hierarchy of consensus groups starting with the minimal cell - family. Smaller consesnus groups are then free to join or leave larger ones. I'm still of the opinion that transparency in communication will help the whole system to self-organize in the best possible way. Collaboration requires transparency of communication. Removing the idea of government completely doesn't seem like a viable option at this point. We still occupy a limited surface area of the planet with limited resources. We still need a place to live and food on our table. So competition for those is inevitable. Replacing government with for-profit businesses is like replacing Obama with Zuckerberg? Does it really change much? All the land will then be divided between large multinational corps with private armies and every one of us living on that land will be in no position to say "no" to a business owner. Governements today represent banks they owe money to, not the people. If we change that and take our governments back into our control with the new type of money like Bitcoin, while at the same time opening up their whole operations, things will change for the better. This will probably work best when done bottom-up, meaning that smaller consensus groups need to form first and prove stable and workable before joining together to grow further.
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To summarize my upthread posts ... What made it so difficult to let go of Christianity because I love my grandfather so much. But maybe that is just luck. We get lucky to know people like that. Nice post! +1 Not everyone needs an organized religion to find God within, but we can thank all of the distractions and obstacles out there as our great teachers. It is always a constraint that we push against in order to propel ourselves onto the next level in our infinite evolution. ... Exact copies of each other so nothing changes, nothing is alive, and nothing exists. Read my exposition of this in my blog essay, " Information Is Alive". By the way, I liked the blog, though I haven't read all of the links inside yet. Maybe absolute perfection is only possible when there is a choice for something less perfect? It's a paradox then, but that's why we are still here, still breathing.
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... Could we not be worshiping twisted versions of old tales that parents told their children, or their people, to keep them in line before the great flood? And after the great flood, those stories then became real to the survivors who believed a naturally occurring event was caused by God? ...
While I'm by no means an expert in the Bible (I haven't read it), seeing it in every hotel room I stayed made me quite suspicious of it as it screamed propaganda. My suspicions were later reaffirmed in the sources I found all by myself and learned to pay attention to over time. While some parts of the Bible might be true, other were manipulated, because lie is harder to discern when mixed with the truth. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ZLPkvz6G_MThe idea of outside God (as my creator) is inherently flawed. Because empirically everything I experience stems from me and therefore is already contained within me. I cannot experience the idea of God without me being there in the first place. Only I know what it's like to be me (thus only I can "create" myself) and any God I will ever experience will just be a reflection of God within me. God and its Creation are inseparable the same way a dancer and her dance are.
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Very interesting discussion. I don't mean to interrupt, but have a few questions. ... One rule; one law; one order; don't eat the one fruit. Eat all the rest. Don't eat that one. Honor God by obeying that one rule. After all, honoring God, and thereby glorifying Him, is what man was created for. ...
You seem to be defining God's love based on condition of not doing something. Wouldn't God be even greater if God's love was unconditional? Something like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3i3rMnvyXgQAlso experiencing one aspect of existence (a perceived Hell) for eternity would only last for as long as you believe in it. Instead of one law, one rule, there seem to be actually four universal fundamental laws: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fiotqFbgonMThere is a good chance that all of them can be well explained with mathematics (except first one which is empirical), but I won't go into that here.
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... The emphasis needs to remain with proof of work because that is the only model that will allow the network to expand as it must while providing the required buffer to keep everything working in the event of price declines as will occasionally happen.
Yes, apart from a method of initial distribution which acts like a faucet, mining is a way to keep the system as neutral as an algorithm can be.
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... If there is a better way to organize a neutral global money system, we should have it penned here and get a nobel prize in economics.
FYI there is a better way, it's called Proof of Stake mining, it's working for a variety of altcoins, they have all avoided the inevitable downfall of PoW systems (expensive + low security). From what I can see, Proof of Stake system doesn't really solve the problem that Bitcoin is solving. It puts a group of people at the center of its security model. In that sense the network is "owned" by the wealthiest of its stakeholders, which turns it into a form of private money, and we already have plenty of that. Bitcoin, on the other hand, has a neutral algorithm as an ultimate judge for people's performance. That's how it ensures that any attack on it is not permanent and can be overturned with the same 51% mechanism. All Proof of Stake systems in that sense are already 51% attacked by default, and their position is static over time. If so it's a HORRIBLE idea because it creates unnecessary cost barriers to getting into Bitcoin mining.
Correct. Mining-less systems regardless of their initial distribution of money have an asymptote that leads towards centralization essentially turning any such system into a private enterprise.
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... There is no tax, just a distribution of coins. If 10% of new coins being emitted per year, then rougly the same amount of money will be spent mining them. The same goes for 5%, 2% of the market cap and so on. Money in, money out - no tax!
Call it "service fee" or "inflation," call it whatever you want, but ~10% of Bitcoin's market cap will be spent every year to maintain current level of security. For now inflation is footing the bill, but once block reward halves, either security will suffer, or tx fees go way up. If Bitcoin stays relevant in the future there will always be a competition for "conquering" its algorithm. I can't say whether it will cost 10% of its market cap or not. But I can say for sure that those engaging in this voluntary competition will be getting something out of it - be it profit in the form of transaction fees or some other agendas. The algorithm really doesn't care about people's nationality, political or religious views, their skin or eye color. It simply says "here I am out in the open, make me run faster and you win!". We have already gone through one halving and the network survived without suffering any security loss. For users the inflation is predictable and declining over time, miners get what they are after as their engagement is voluntary. So there is really no cost or "tax" associated with running the network because you get what you pay for. If there is a better way to organize a neutral global money system, we should have it penned here and get a nobel prize in economics.
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