Has anyone ... from within this forum (not the website you claim is yours) purchased from them and can you vouch for them?
To the OP do you know how escrow works? Choose an escrow service to whom you give the tracking of the pack when you ship it and it lands (is delivered, confirmed) the escrow service releases your funds to you.
There are escrow provider's who don't need or care about what the buyer cares to say or try to do/say to scam a free product our of, there are many who only require proof that you've delivered and if the buyer has dispute that they must provide picture's with succinct explanation for how they were 'scammed' by you and why they should have their funds returned to them with stringent guidelines by the escrow provider.
Yes, I do know how escrow works. But don't you think we could send an empty box and when it arrived to destination ask for the funds from escrow holder, right? If the buyer need to confirm it works (not just to receive the shipment) then he could ask for few weeks trial period, right? Moreover, there are a lot of scammers here and the buyer could simply false report he is not satisfied and we will never get paid, right? It is not simple to use escrow with our service.
But the MAIN REASON why we still dont use escrow is because we are paid immediately and why should we change this and wait for the payment? We have our clients and they pay immediately. We are not able to make hundreds of these accounts in one day and we have enough clients who are willing to pay upfront so I really don't see any point at the moment in changing our business model and start waiting for the payment which we currently are able to have immediately. I guess this is not hard to understand.
You say you're not amateur but:
a. You don't use an escrow service ... on your website, or on here ... period ... that's retarded ... what 'professional' vendor does not use escrow? Come on now.
Please name professional vendors who does use it on their website
There are some, but are in minority. It is usual to pay, and then to get what you paid.
b. Don't even seem to understand how escrow works, the buyer can't hold you hostage through escrow just by saying they were unsatisfied, if they receive what you advertise the escrow service releases your funds to you. DNMs have been doing this for so many year's with so many market's with so many scamming fuckhead scum that escrow services have learned all the little tricks these bitches try to pull and they offer the seller the exact equal protection that they offer the buyer. YOU SHOULD KNOW THIS IF YOU ARE NOT AN AMATEUR
Already answered.
c. How the hell are any of us supposed to know that that site if even yours? I could start a thread here and say I am long time established seller, I are long time on the site
http://www.verifiedacc.com/ just believe me because it's my site. What you question it's my site or not? I am not amateur it's my site ... do you see the LOGIC FAIL here?
What to say on this? Well, try to send an e-mail from contact form at the website. Feel free to mention this thread and VerAc1 account. We all are familiar with this thread so whoever read the mail will not be surprised. Feel free to ask for confirmation if this is our thread.
d. Where is your grams account?
e. Where is your PGP so we can even make an EFFORT to recognize that you are the real owner of that site and not just some dude who created an account on bitcointalk.org and said that site is his so we must trust he is legit and not not an amateur.
If you're pro you at least link us your grams, your PGP, a market, source, credible outside vendor SOMETHING.
Should I take IDs of all team members and post pics here?
Would you like to be our client and to see we posted your info here and let know to the whole world you bought your PayPal account?
I guess not
But I relent ... has anyone (in good standing with a high reputation account here) on this forum tried this guy's service and had success and can vouch?
If not, you're going to have to at least give out a few free vouches to high ranking member's (i'm not trying to mooch a vouch, i'm not a high ranking member and thus not suited to be a credible vouch for your service).
We would definitely think about giving free accounts to a few members if we were in lack of clients. Since we are not, there is no point for doing that. And yes, we had some sales to clients who came to us from this forum. No way we will mention any of our clients, it would be completely unprofessional. Maybe they will post by themselves, or ignore this thread, their choice. We get some email questions from the members of this forum which was not converted to sales. Some people from this forum asked for something we are not offering, so we answered we cant help in such a cases. If we were scammers we would take their money anyway.
Anyway, we had only a few sales to members of this forum. Our clients come mostly from other sources.
Why am I still going on? Cuz I actually have real interest in such a product/service, but I need proof of some sort (that's not you linking a site that sell's the shit and just saying it's your site, that proves nothing. I own google.com biches, mmk).
Do you even have a PGP keypair so your buyer's can send you their sensitive info (shipping address) NOT IN PLAINTEXT ? You MUST have a pub key if you're not a RANK AMATEUR so PLEASE tell me you have .. even KNOW what that is lol.
Well, good for you if you own Google.com
We are satisfied even with VerifiedAcc.com
Feel free to send an e-mail and ask if VerAc1 at Bitcointalk.org is our account.
You MUST have a pub key if you're not a RANK AMATEUR
Why? There are so much easier ways to send and receive sensitive info.
Where is this website of yours hosted and to whom does it belong btw?
It is our website, don't worry.
I mentioned the simplest way to check.
At the moment we are out of stock with accounts which have added US bank account + physical debit card, but during the next week we will have them again. If you are "brave enough"
to order without escrow just contact us and reserve one of the upcoming accounts for yourself.
At the end, I understand it is hard to trust someone at this forum, but we tried to answer on all the questions in this thread. Verified Acc. is not here to argue, we came to make business. If you have doubts, no problem, but please try to understand our explanation about not accepting escrow at this moment. It has nothing with fraud, it is simply not necessary to us.
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