More than a week to withdrawal 2 fucking BTC. Message sent to support 6 days ago and nothing. What a joke. My money is lost, and the biggest customers money too. DO NOT TRADE IN YOBIT.

Yo relax my man. No pumpers here, just Ubiq loyal holders who are really excited for the launch of Ethereum-killer!! 

Not the first day, but UBIQ has potential to be much much more than actual 1.3M market cap. 5-10 M I would say that is a fair price.

Relax and enjoy the show, it's gonna be a fun ride.   

Yo Franky relax my man. My "business" is not taking money from anyone basically because I don't wanna go to jail anytime soon you know what I mean..

I'm only proving to the public my management abilities to become a future fund manager, that's it. No darkness intentions or whatsoever.

You can check the current portfolios and all the buy/sell movements done, not bad performances at all.  

http://bluemagic.info/funds/retirement-fund/

http://bluemagic.info/funds/dynamic-fund/

http://bluemagic.info/funds/extrem-fund/


Movements (calls in twitter & telegram channels when they occur)

http://bluemagic.info/blog/movements/


Read & think a bit before taking bad conclusions and trashing people.  

Well man I don't wanna discuss with you anymore. It's clear that you don't know how these markets works.

"Overvalued", "inflated", "pumped", it's all the same. Big players generate big volumes, buy walls and other known tricks to make little investors think that it's a good moment to enter, when reality is that they are buying at high prices given the current status of the project.

Even if everything was 200% transparent, price wouldn't had sustained 5-7K levels, because there was absolutely no reason to do so. People who bought those at those prices, you included, bought coins giving the project a market valuation of 2,5M-3M $, when just a day before it was valuated at 400K $. Next time, think a bit before investing in a project man.


You need all the information & all the cards in the table to decide if a project is trustworthly or not. Well that's not going to happen, if you want some extra info you will have to look for it.

This is the essence of VC investing, to trust or not to trust. If you're not good or confortable in that kind of "intuitive" analysis, go back to big corporation investing. There you will have tons of "transparent" data to analyse if it's a good choice to invest or not. Be careful tho, data manipulation & creative accounting it's a common practise inthere.  


Last message to you, don't answer that, stop the fudding, lock your NXC and sell them in june-july at 10K-20K.

I already told you so in another message. When you release dev wallets public, and those have a big % of shares, any minor movement will be used by the whales to dump hard the price.

I tell you what I think, they saw inflated prices at the start and decided to sell a small part, like 2-3M. And it's a clever decision, because NXC in the launch at 5-7K was overvalued. Now they don't wanna show the wallets because those 2-3M would be missing, and FUD would go to the next level. "Look at those, dumping dev coins to the investors!!!"

Lots of well-known and reputable projects have been dumping coins secretly for development. And now you say: Yeah, but that was the first day! And I say: yeah, but the price was clearly manipulated high and the volume was big. The moment to sell some was then.
Now don't get me wrong, I'm not defending a full dump of 15M. That would be a disastrous behaviour. But I defend a 2-3M dump, because funds are for that, and the price was too high.


I was following the price action and the orderbooks all the first day man. It was a clear whale manipulation to make noobs buy "the new polo thing". Everything was bullish until they put a 150 BTC sell wall and crashed the price. The following days, they kept dumping, dried the buy orderbooks and so on. In addition, BTC was rallying hard in that time so it was more easy to supress the price.

That is the classical price supression dumpage after Polo add man. Important projects that now are rocking hard followed the same pattern. Factom, XEM, AMP, ETH, ... were all dumped to hell during weeks and months before making the big rallies. There's nothing strange or suspitious in NXC behaviour that we haven't seen other times.


To finish. I agree with you, there should be a richlist and full list of transactions. But all this complains, you should ask them personally, instead of spreading the FUD here. You're shoting yourself in the feet. Whales are very aware of the emotions that bitcointalk topic shows. If they see FUD here, they will supress the price even more and make scared little investors sell at a big lose.  


 

Haha you're really hard man

Look, I'm with you, I think they sold some M during the crazy launch at 5-7K. So what? It.s a clever decision, 6K for a project that hasn.t released anything is overbought. I w ;)ould have done the same, to rebuy lower.

In fact any of this matters man, what's really important if they are developing the game in the accorded timeline, which I know 100% that is true.
Who cares if those 15M are in dev hands or in whale hands? Success of failure won't depend on that.

I tell you, better pay attention to human values, they can give you much more reliable info than a blockchain richlist or any other statistical shit.

Lol. And you keep repeating the same and the same over and over again. Pure irrelevant facts.

Look man. What is your problem? You don't trust in the team? Then SELL. It's very very simple.
You trust in the team? Then BUY, because the current price is dirty cheap.

Now, if you don't trust because they don't show you their PERSONAL adresses, SELL man!!! Damnit, it's so simple for god sake. They are not gonna show you their adresses, and I prefer so because of the reasons I mentioned above.

If you don't know to differenciate an scammer to a good and honest team, it's your fucking problem. Usually information is not 100% clear and you have to decide by yourself to trust or not. Otherwise any robot could be a great investor by just following 4 simple rules.

Now stop shitting this thread man. Sell your coins and get the fuck out.

Look man, first thing, these devs are not anonymous by any way. You can go to Lyon-France and visit them if you want.

Second thing, you are angry because you made a bad decision by buying at 6K-7K when there was any rational reason to do so. You should investigate more before trading because this world has nothing to be with blue chips of S&P 500.

Third thing. I explain you, because seems that you don't know how this works: Devs hold a big % of shares in this project. In these wild west markets, ANY minor thing will be maximized. Any minor development will push the price high, and any minor FUD signal will push the price down.
Devs have 15M of PERSONAL coins (yeah, it was in the ICO, that is their share. If you don't like it you shouldn't have bought). Now imagine that in 6 months, Devs decide to sell 1M, just 1M. If this information goes public, believe me, there would be a MAJOR unreasonable dump. How I said, this markets are full of whales and they will take advantage of any situation. The FUD appears quickly, and devs dumping coins generates tons of FUD and inestability in prices.

So yeah, I prefer that they keep those wallets private. They are developing the product, and I understand that they should have a major share of it, as any other business. If you don't like this fact, I don't know why did you bought NXC, or ever worse, why the fuck did you bough it at 6K-7K. 

Agree, but Shelby, apart from being a high IQ, has creativity, social habilities and desire to win and earn money. That's why it's really strange that he's living in these conditions.

If I remember correctly he in fact won a lot of money i the past but then went bankrupt.

I was just commenting that because it's a pain in the ass to see individuals like him living with difficulties, while tons of stupid idiots live with Ferraris. Something is not good in our society. 

Damnit Shelby how can a human being like you can live in the poverty man? How's that possible? Fuck if I had your IQ at the age of 50 would be already a billionaire man.


Why don't you make a little ICO with little % of the coins, use it to cure deffinitely your illness and go full to release the true bitcoin killer?

Lot of people is already noticing the centralized problems that BTC is having and will have in the future. It's time to release a true viable and true descentralized coin, and seems that you're the only one who can do this. Don't be a stubborn, make a little ICO, cure your problems and release the kraken!! 

Yo-yo, calm down trolls & FUDers.

Yeah Xtrata, you have a valid point, those 15M should be a public knowing because there was an ICO involved. But think about it:

Possibility 1: They sold some of their coins once they were released on exchange at overvalued prices.

Possibility 2: They haven't sold anything and don't wanna publish teir adresses because they don't want people know when they sell.


- Anyway, does it fucking matter at all to be generating all this FUD?

If they have sold and only have 5M now, what happens? Nothing, they have more $$ in their pockets and whales and investors have more NXC in them. I don't thing it's a good move to sell NXC now, because in some months they will be worth more and the team already had $$, but if they want they can do it.

As long as they release the game and keep improving it when it's released, who the fuck cares where are the DEV personal coins? Vitalik sold their official ETH share at the higest point when Ethereum was rocking. Ovbiously nobody complaint because everyone was having nice profits in ETH. Here everyone complains simply because they are losing money temporary and are not able to hold their assets for months. They want profit, and they want it NOW. Go to the fucking casino then, you'll have instant profits... & instant losses. 

I repeat, if they continue the development in a hard way, nothing to worry about. If they don't deliver the product, don't worry, I'll be the first one to complain and ask for responsabilities, but I don't thing that this will be necessary. 

C'mon Shelby destroy all these wannabe low IQ haters, we're really impatient to see your solutions!!

100% trust in you man, you must be the only one here who has a deep knowledge about what are we doing here and your POV will be surely accurate  

Good luck!

Yeah reputable legendary member, you're completely right. With this topic, I will pump giant things like BTC, LTC, MAID, GAME and all other things to the moon, and then I will dump my HUUGE 30,000 $ stake tothe followers.

It totally makes sense man, it's the perfect plan. You're a great detective LOL  


We're trying to open the way to the new economy movement based on reputation and trust. Your cheap shitcoin P&D speech does not fit here. Times are changing fast man, evolve or die.

Ah yeah, you truly look like an expirienced mature man:

1. You judge me for being 21, when you don't have a clue about who I am and the experience I have in finance management.

2. You judge me in 3rd January, when funds started in 1st January.


Go back trolling Lisk and shilling Iconomi, you're a professional in that area.  

Yeah, better talk about the important thing here