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January 13, 2017, 08:41:14 AM |
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Xnyz and Xtrata... Seriously I am very sceptical of Devs especially after WOLF, but these guys don't need to explain anything as long as they are continuing development. Why don't you go ask your favorite video game creators where their money is, how much they have left, what they're doing with it, their personal bank account info... Etc. How about you sell your Nexium and get off of the thread if you think it's a scam... If they sold some of their coins because the price was over 10 times this price that makes them smart... More BTC for development and less dumping at these lower prices.
I understand that it's a different scenario because their money affects your money, but if their game is successful in the long run it just takes more time for your value to increase. Now if they sold all of their coins upon listing at Polo and stopped development then I agree 100% they are scammers, but if development continues and release is close to the schedule they are not scammers and they were smart with their coins.
The difference here is that my favorite game creators did not ask for money. They made a product and I pay whenever it is ready to use. They asked for money, got the coin/token listed on an exchange and possibly sold alot of their holdings without telling anyone because it is "privacy" to hold 15% of the coins/tokens. Do you know how weird this sounds? That is red flags all over. How come this project need privacy with their devfunds when projects like ETH/ICN/Waves and other ones does not? What makes this project so special that they cannot show their wallets or just tell us how much they sold if they sold. As you said, it is a different scenario because it affects my money and I/others should be able to know if 15M NXC will hit the market. It doesn't really matter to me if it is successful or not, that is not the point. Even if they keep developing that doesn't make up for possibly selling millions of NXC when it hit the exchange, that is a classic shady move. Think about how many people that bought NXC when it hit the exchange and lost money because they possibly hit the market with millions of coins/tokens. You can take it as being smart, I see it as greed and that you have no respect for the people that helped you with money to build the game. They avoid the question about their wallets and adresses, they even said they have no intention to sell, then why hide it? Why can we not see it? All I asked is totally normal for any ICO's to provide, after all scams that has been around here this is something you should do as soon as the final supply/the coin hit the exchange so it is visible for everyone. I dont really understand why anyone would defend this behaviour. I think you have a good point I do agree to 100% this is SCAM as far DEVS not tells us the story! |
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VultureFund
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January 13, 2017, 09:37:20 AM |
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Yo-yo, calm down trolls & FUDers. Yeah Xtrata, you have a valid point, those 15M should be a public knowing because there was an ICO involved. But think about it: Possibility 1: They sold some of their coins once they were released on exchange at overvalued prices. Possibility 2: They haven't sold anything and don't wanna publish teir adresses because they don't want people know when they sell. - Anyway, does it fucking matter at all to be generating all this FUD? If they have sold and only have 5M now, what happens? Nothing, they have more $$ in their pockets and whales and investors have more NXC in them. I don't thing it's a good move to sell NXC now, because in some months they will be worth more and the team already had $$, but if they want they can do it. As long as they release the game and keep improving it when it's released, who the fuck cares where are the DEV personal coins? Vitalik sold their official ETH share at the higest point when Ethereum was rocking. Ovbiously nobody complaint because everyone was having nice profits in ETH. Here everyone complains simply because they are losing money temporary and are not able to hold their assets for months. They want profit, and they want it NOW. Go to the fucking casino then, you'll have instant profits... & instant losses.  I repeat, if they continue the development in a hard way, nothing to worry about. If they don't deliver the product, don't worry, I'll be the first one to complain and ask for responsabilities, but I don't thing that this will be necessary.  |
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bcmine
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January 13, 2017, 10:07:33 AM |
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You can show us all these addresses but not the addresses with your other 15M NXC, why? I think most of us here want to see it rather than to hear that we should trust you. NXC = SCAM Thank I sold my all coins .. It will never go to 2K in future .. the product has not even been released. its the start not the end of the project. the nxc of the founders are their stash, they can do with it what ever they want. they can dump it on exchanges or not. its their property. i guess the devs are not going be as stupid as you are to dump their funds now. |
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bcmine
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January 13, 2017, 10:13:01 AM |
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ignorelist add what was that? 50 posts here crying and trolling because you bought at the top of the pump. |
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January 13, 2017, 10:17:35 AM |
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ignorelist i love the specialists who are studing the blockchain to come out with something, anything. stupidity at the peak.+ |
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souljah1h
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January 13, 2017, 10:32:50 AM |
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ignorelist i love the specialists who are studing the blockchain to come out with something, anything. stupidity at the peak.+ Sharing my ignore list here. Keep the trolls away! smoothie ihatemyjob Come-from-Beyond mr_random herbitcoins GTTIGER jelin1984 Riddikulo bobmarley650 Spoetnik Novalok awais3344 Gunther sdersdf2 placebo benthach Bobsurplus martinholly167 Candy L93 agx56 colombuszka newbie1993 neurorit Revelations86 mike77777 Aimee1993 Dekker3D robelneo pmflxh TorinT barabbas coinbiz jorrr herzogzwei KLONE wasref Soul_eater_123 TheStuhlman Polycoin wgd jaayruu nathalie20 minedout wildduck wrxbuzz Counterpartybtc jd1959 warr1979 anders lokka jeremy grol cryptozilla Subtuppel btc-one johny08 acseric michaelwang33 Versalife vivi home MrWHALE tinaken_v jerrylemon pookielax31 gluk58 cryptohangman pujumba zsp mrkavasaki MarriNK-21 Monkeys altcoinUK ItsNotMe BTCwriter boltz makemeapancake webay Ab-Soul StealthCoin1 XNext MantisCoinDev #coinmarkets cartel home12345 bignev nhrf3 TrueAnon starboyshuvo comando Piston Honda Perryl fmz89 X1235 huanglui The Pharmacist Blazin8888 ProfessionalInvestor rizzlarolla iambitcoin5 thoth-Atlantian Rago Dev_Sempak_coin Mrmoney2 KhalDrago mimito tmoney2013 Friendlyman 1337leet xp.rie Myraidcoins Alexthesalamander MonsterZeroPrice NICOLIU2015 SparkyU skypeTeo dipkiss axlroses GinnaGinna imbest Neptunium bitbitch tomkat trumpchain Valorbits Vidale AleScamHole Mr.Ease aDAPPter moonfrog fakecryptsynagger sjccrypto Vaccinus template Skalpell NotYour Daddy BitFomo dolores12 BitPotus Conic ITdreamer CRYBISH fagnersteve Masha Sha outfitsoul Blazin888888 Max Beddows Lizzy Lisk Sir loin MangoRush sandwraithBTC iamvadimm @Hakermania@ BigHourse wavespump Billh Padek hudsonhornet honolulumark Alpok powerfreestyle achtungbabe Ullukapatha BitOk29 NotMyDay scamalert0 jordanchong cebra Go to Profile > Click Ignore user options and add.  |
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johny08
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January 13, 2017, 11:44:00 AM |
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when will be the beta version available on steam?
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January 13, 2017, 04:04:05 PM |
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Thanks for clearing this up. I was also wondering if 0x65f9b2e4d7aaeb40ffea8c6f5844d5ad7da257e0 belongs to the company. 0xe8200511f3c276fa7300719f9b45301bc471f4fb still has a balance of 197,920. Does this mean that the backer ranks distribution is not yet complete. Based on this address, it looks like we got 2 Galactic Emperor, no constellation king, and 2 Star Baron. However, when checking address 0x920e9ac91e54ca411e7d04173531d8b8dc565ba8 there is someone that should have Constellation King: 0x3C88B67F8AC3FcEF00dFeCa5D6bB3A926b7700A3. This address does not show any Nexium Bonus which should amount to 140,000 I was not able to check all addresses as Etherscan only allows me to see the last 200 transactions. Does anyone know who to view the entire history? |
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January 13, 2017, 04:17:23 PM |
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Thanks for clearing this up. I was also wondering if 0x65f9b2e4d7aaeb40ffea8c6f5844d5ad7da257e0 belongs to the company. 0xe8200511f3c276fa7300719f9b45301bc471f4fb still has a balance of 197,920. Does this mean that the backer ranks distribution is not yet complete. Based on this address, it looks like we got 2 Galactic Emperor, no constellation king, and 2 Star Baron. However, when checking address 0x920e9ac91e54ca411e7d04173531d8b8dc565ba8 there is someone that should have Constellation King: 0x3C88B67F8AC3FcEF00dFeCa5D6bB3A926b7700A3. This address does not show any Nexium Bonus which should amount to 140,000 I was not able to check all addresses as Etherscan only allows me to see the last 200 transactions. Does anyone know who to view the entire history? 0x65f9b2e4d7aaeb40ffea8c6f5844d5ad7da257e0: this is not ours, but we're thinking it might be Poloniex. 0xe8200511f3c276fa7300719f9b45301bc471f4fb: this is some NxC left from the backer ranks, we'll transfer them somewhere else eventually. All the Nexium bonuses have already been distributed. 0x920e9ac91e54ca411e7d04173531d8b8dc565ba8: you're right, that is weird. If there was a mistake we will correct it (nobody claimed they didn't receive their bonus though...). Thank you for noticing. We'll keep you updated about that. |
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January 13, 2017, 05:00:42 PM |
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BEYOND THE VOID IS ON SLACK ANYWAYS. ALL THIS DISCUSSION IN HERE IS BACK ALLEY TALK. WE TALK TO THE DEVS LIKE ERRRRY DAY. THEY ARE MAKING A BITCHIN PRODUCT, RELATING THEIR PROGRESS AND ALL IS WELL. THE BEEF GIVES AN ULTIMATE THUMBS UP TO THIS STARTUP. GAME IS MOVING ALONG QUICKLY PRODUCTION WISE. WAY QUUCKER THAN SPELLS OF GENESIS HONESTLY. I ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO GO THE BEYOND THE VOID SLACK BECAUSE THEYRE MISSING OUT. IF YOURE NOT BUYIN OR INVESTING IN THIS PROJECT A. YOURE PROBABLY DUMB AND THATS OK AND B. ITS PRETTY MUCH A KNOCKOUT WIN. JUST WAIT UNTIL THE BETA GETS RELEASED.....YALL WILL BE KICKIN YOURSELVES IN THE ASS BY GOIN TO THE FOMO BAR AND GETTING TOO DRUNK TO MAKE THAT CRYPTO CALL. PEACE FROM THE BEEF.
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January 13, 2017, 05:09:32 PM
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OH AND BY THE WAY.......TO ALL THE FUDDERS AND DOUBTERS SUCK ON THIS YOU LIL CHUPS. HERE IS A REAAALLL VIDEO DEMONSTRATION OF CURRENT GAMEPLAY BETWEEN 2 GUYS WHO ARE RE INVENTING THE GAMING WORLD WITH BLOCKCHAIN TECHNOLOGY. MAXENCE IS SHOWING SHABAN OF SPELLS HOW TO THE PLAY A MATCH. SO SIT DOWN.....GET YOUR LAZY ASSES TO WATCH AN HOUR OF THIS AND SEE WHAT THIS PROJECT REALLY IS. 2 GREAT GUYS MAKING 2 GREAT PRODUCTS. THATS HARD TO FIND IN CRYPTO WORLD. SCAM IS THE OPPOSITE OF WHAT THIS IS. https://youtu.be/uuVmaL0R_n8 |
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January 13, 2017, 07:49:30 PM |
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is there a bounty for a Russian translation?
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January 13, 2017, 08:43:54 PM |
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is there a bounty for a Russian translation?
чтo зa пoпpoшaйничecтвo? |
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January 13, 2017, 08:58:43 PM |
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Yeah Xtrata, you have a valid point, those 15M should be a public knowing because there was an ICO involved. But think about it: Possibility 1: They sold some of their coins once they were released on exchange at overvalued prices. Possibility 2: They haven't sold anything and don't wanna publish teir adresses because they don't want people know when they sell. - Anyway, does it fucking matter at all to be generating all this FUD? If they have sold and only have 5M now, what happens? Nothing, they have more $$ in their pockets and whales and investors have more NXC in them. I don't thing it's a good move to sell NXC now, because in some months they will be worth more and the team already had $$, but if they want they can do it. As long as they release the game and keep improving it when it's released, who the fuck cares where are the DEV personal coins? Vitalik sold their official ETH share at the higest point when Ethereum was rocking. Ovbiously nobody complaint because everyone was having nice profits in ETH. Here everyone complains simply because they are losing money temporary and are not able to hold their assets for months. They want profit, and they want it NOW. Go to the fucking casino then, you'll have instant profits... & instant losses. I repeat, if they continue the development in a hard way, nothing to worry about. If they don't deliver the product, don't worry, I'll be the first one to complain and ask for responsabilities, but I don't thing that this will be necessary. Yes, yes. They said they haven't sold any. Trust their word. They said they will develop the game, have some faith. Privacy is important for focused development. That's why anonymous devs are popular here in BTCtalk. They can develop coins without having to reveal anything except the whitepapers. What right do you have demanding to know what their coin balances are? Show me yours first.  |
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January 14, 2017, 02:37:59 AM |
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Yeah Xtrata, you have a valid point, those 15M should be a public knowing because there was an ICO involved. But think about it: Possibility 1: They sold some of their coins once they were released on exchange at overvalued prices. Possibility 2: They haven't sold anything and don't wanna publish teir adresses because they don't want people know when they sell. - Anyway, does it fucking matter at all to be generating all this FUD? If they have sold and only have 5M now, what happens? Nothing, they have more $$ in their pockets and whales and investors have more NXC in them. I don't thing it's a good move to sell NXC now, because in some months they will be worth more and the team already had $$, but if they want they can do it. As long as they release the game and keep improving it when it's released, who the fuck cares where are the DEV personal coins? Vitalik sold their official ETH share at the higest point when Ethereum was rocking. Ovbiously nobody complaint because everyone was having nice profits in ETH. Here everyone complains simply because they are losing money temporary and are not able to hold their assets for months. They want profit, and they want it NOW. Go to the fucking casino then, you'll have instant profits... & instant losses. I repeat, if they continue the development in a hard way, nothing to worry about. If they don't deliver the product, don't worry, I'll be the first one to complain and ask for responsabilities, but I don't thing that this will be necessary. Yes, yes. They said they haven't sold any. Trust their word. They said they will develop the game, have some faith. Privacy is important for focused development. That's why anonymous devs are popular here in BTCtalk. They can develop coins without having to reveal anything except the whitepapers. What right do you have demanding to know what their coin balances are? Show me yours first. Which anonymous devs started an ICO and collected as much as NXC devs did. I do believe transparency is a must, people invested into this project would like to see exactly what happens with their funds. I work at a big assets management company, managing over 90 Billion in assets. We release annual reports that include details of what we invested in and P/L from every investment. Full Transparency...how do you know funds aren't being spent on personal things or if it's all gone? Sorry but "just trust the devs" is idiotic and ignorant, if you're going to trust every dev here then you're going to be homeless and broke really soon. I am not fudding or hating on NXC so don't come in guns blazing calling names. If the devs don't have anything to hide, why not post full details of the addresses they hold all coins, expense reports...etc I also would jump really quick if they sold their shares in NXC that just shows me they don't believe in the project. If they indeed dumped part of the 15M NXC without letting everyone know I would also be worried. Trust me, no FUD here that is bullshit affects the price at the moment. Most buyers are at a 5x or more loss (me included) which isn't worth selling anymore so easy on screaming FUD everytime someone questions the devs actions, they aren't always right. |
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January 14, 2017, 04:11:01 AM
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Thanks for clearing this up. I was also wondering if 0x65f9b2e4d7aaeb40ffea8c6f5844d5ad7da257e0 belongs to the company. 0xe8200511f3c276fa7300719f9b45301bc471f4fb still has a balance of 197,920. Does this mean that the backer ranks distribution is not yet complete. Based on this address, it looks like we got 2 Galactic Emperor, no constellation king, and 2 Star Baron. However, when checking address 0x920e9ac91e54ca411e7d04173531d8b8dc565ba8 there is someone that should have Constellation King: 0x3C88B67F8AC3FcEF00dFeCa5D6bB3A926b7700A3. This address does not show any Nexium Bonus which should amount to 140,000 I was not able to check all addresses as Etherscan only allows me to see the last 200 transactions. Does anyone know who to view the entire history? 0x65f9b2e4d7aaeb40ffea8c6f5844d5ad7da257e0: this is not ours, but we're thinking it might be Poloniex. 0xe8200511f3c276fa7300719f9b45301bc471f4fb: this is some NxC left from the backer ranks, we'll transfer them somewhere else eventually. All the Nexium bonuses have already been distributed. 0x920e9ac91e54ca411e7d04173531d8b8dc565ba8: you're right, that is weird. If there was a mistake we will correct it (nobody claimed they didn't receive their bonus though...). Thank you for noticing. We'll keep you updated about that. Oh good, I was 90% certain that 0x65f9b2e4d7aaeb40ffea8c6f5844d5ad7da257e0 was the exchange, but the high balance of over 16 million nexium made me question it. it is actually quite impressive that Nexium is doing so well considering the inflation that was created through the distribution of the rank bonuses. People overall believe in the project and are not willing to sell at any price. So all the trolling is in vain. Are pre-sale investors who also took part in the ICO able to connect both amounts to get a higher rank? Just wondering because Pre-sale investors were not using the same addresses as the addresses they used for the ICO. If that is the case, then there are more high ranking members than I first computed by just using the 0xe8200511f3c276fa7300719f9b45301bc471f4fb address. |
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January 14, 2017, 05:43:05 AM |
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Yeah and plus anybody who buys a coin right when it gets on an exchange is the stupidest thing ever. RARELY ANY CRYPTO GOES UP THE MOUNTAIN WHEN INTRODUCED ON AN EXCHANGE. Now here we are...........at the RIGHT price, follow someone who is successful in investing like Tim Draper. You know what he says? "You only lose when you sell." He was proven right buy buying 30k bitcoin at 800 dollars, took a while but he won the call. All you NXC holders can jump off if you want but if you really wanna see some historic shit, the BEEF is calling success on this bad boy right here.
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January 14, 2017, 10:13:18 AM |
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Yeah and plus anybody who buys a coin right when it gets on an exchange is the stupidest thing ever. RARELY ANY CRYPTO GOES UP THE MOUNTAIN WHEN INTRODUCED ON AN EXCHANGE. Now here we are...........at the RIGHT price, follow someone who is successful in investing like Tim Draper. You know what he says? "You only lose when you sell." He was proven right buy buying 30k bitcoin at 800 dollars, took a while but he won the call. All you NXC holders can jump off if you want but if you really wanna see some historic shit, the BEEF is calling success on this bad boy right here.
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January 14, 2017, 12:31:13 PM |
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Yeah Xtrata, you have a valid point, those 15M should be a public knowing because there was an ICO involved. But think about it: Possibility 1: They sold some of their coins once they were released on exchange at overvalued prices. Possibility 2: They haven't sold anything and don't wanna publish teir adresses because they don't want people know when they sell. - Anyway, does it fucking matter at all to be generating all this FUD? If they have sold and only have 5M now, what happens? Nothing, they have more $$ in their pockets and whales and investors have more NXC in them. I don't thing it's a good move to sell NXC now, because in some months they will be worth more and the team already had $$, but if they want they can do it. As long as they release the game and keep improving it when it's released, who the fuck cares where are the DEV personal coins? Vitalik sold their official ETH share at the higest point when Ethereum was rocking. Ovbiously nobody complaint because everyone was having nice profits in ETH. Here everyone complains simply because they are losing money temporary and are not able to hold their assets for months. They want profit, and they want it NOW. Go to the fucking casino then, you'll have instant profits... & instant losses. I repeat, if they continue the development in a hard way, nothing to worry about. If they don't deliver the product, don't worry, I'll be the first one to complain and ask for responsabilities, but I don't thing that this will be necessary. Yes, yes. They said they haven't sold any. Trust their word. They said they will develop the game, have some faith. Privacy is important for focused development. That's why anonymous devs are popular here in BTCtalk. They can develop coins without having to reveal anything except the whitepapers. What right do you have demanding to know what their coin balances are? Show me yours first. Which anonymous devs started an ICO and collected as much as NXC devs did. I do believe transparency is a must, people invested into this project would like to see exactly what happens with their funds. I work at a big assets management company, managing over 90 Billion in assets. We release annual reports that include details of what we invested in and P/L from every investment. Full Transparency...how do you know funds aren't being spent on personal things or if it's all gone? Sorry but "just trust the devs" is idiotic and ignorant, if you're going to trust every dev here then you're going to be homeless and broke really soon. I am not fudding or hating on NXC so don't come in guns blazing calling names. If the devs don't have anything to hide, why not post full details of the addresses they hold all coins, expense reports...etc I also would jump really quick if they sold their shares in NXC that just shows me they don't believe in the project. If they indeed dumped part of the 15M NXC without letting everyone know I would also be worried. Trust me, no FUD here that is bullshit affects the price at the moment. Most buyers are at a 5x or more loss (me included) which isn't worth selling anymore so easy on screaming FUD everytime someone questions the devs actions, they aren't always right. Nexium is based on a blockchain that is transparent. If it were based on zcash or monero I would understand your concerns. I have been checking out the nexium blockchain in the last 2 days and all my questions are being answered by the team. I think it is possible to have transparency while at the same time have privacy. I watch the addresses of the top ICO investors, but I don't need their names. So far I found out that what caused the Nexium price to decrease when it reached Poloniex on 12/20 was caused by three whales (of which two have connections) having more than 1/3 of today's total balance on Poloniex. I can imagine that on 12/20 they probably had closer to 90%. But I would not know this because I cannot see the complete history on Etherscan (only shows 200 transactions). If anyone can help me to find a way to get those hidden transactions I could find out more. I agree for transparency, but especially regarding bigger issues. Half of our money is being taken away by criminals through what they call taxes, and we don't even know what they do with it. Reasonable guess would be that they squander it to promote war and regime change all over the world. So being upset at a small team because of some petty cash we invested is not my priority. Besides, they have a reputation to maintain especially since they are somewhat connected to Everdreamsoft. |
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January 14, 2017, 04:44:40 PM |
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Which anonymous devs started an ICO and collected as much as NXC devs did.
I do believe transparency is a must, people invested into this project would like to see exactly what happens with their funds.
I work at a big assets management company, managing over 90 Billion in assets. We release annual reports that include details of what we invested in and P/L from every investment. Full Transparency...how do you know funds aren't being spent on personal things or if it's all gone?
Sorry but "just trust the devs" is idiotic and ignorant, if you're going to trust every dev here then you're going to be homeless and broke really soon.
I am not fudding or hating on NXC so don't come in guns blazing calling names.
If the devs don't have anything to hide, why not post full details of the addresses they hold all coins, expense reports...etc
I also would jump really quick if they sold their shares in NXC that just shows me they don't believe in the project. If they indeed dumped part of the 15M NXC without letting everyone know I would also be worried.
Trust me, no FUD here that is bullshit affects the price at the moment. Most buyers are at a 5x or more loss (me included) which isn't worth selling anymore so easy on screaming FUD everytime someone questions the devs actions, they aren't always right.
Look man, first thing, these devs are not anonymous by any way. You can go to Lyon-France and visit them if you want. Second thing, you are angry because you made a bad decision by buying at 6K-7K when there was any rational reason to do so. You should investigate more before trading because this world has nothing to be with blue chips of S&P 500. Third thing. I explain you, because seems that you don't know how this works: Devs hold a big % of shares in this project. In these wild west markets, ANY minor thing will be maximized. Any minor development will push the price high, and any minor FUD signal will push the price down. Devs have 15M of PERSONAL coins (yeah, it was in the ICO, that is their share. If you don't like it you shouldn't have bought). Now imagine that in 6 months, Devs decide to sell 1M, just 1M. If this information goes public, believe me, there would be a MAJOR unreasonable dump. How I said, this markets are full of whales and they will take advantage of any situation. The FUD appears quickly, and devs dumping coins generates tons of FUD and inestability in prices. So yeah, I prefer that they keep those wallets private. They are developing the product, and I understand that they should have a major share of it, as any other business. If you don't like this fact, I don't know why did you bought NXC, or ever worse, why the fuck did you bough it at 6K-7K. |
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