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Dear mods: It is my understanding that I'm allowed to bump my own thread once every 24 hrs, as long as its subject remains unresolved.
Kindly refrain from deleting posts you feel are too terse/you do not like/don't understand.
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I'm also interested to know more about the actual forum finances (if it's possible).
The forum money I held has largely been spent now, mostly in the forum software project. |
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So, by "using it now," you meant what, exactly? Databases aren't synched, most of the stuff doesn't work, most of the posts don't display, so useless for its intended purpose. What were you doing with it?
The database sync was a few months back; constantly migrating the data would be redundant since it was not going to be used by almost anyone. b ..buht... [...] ATM all the data from this forum has been transferred to the Beta.
 "Most of the stuff doesn't work" is just wrong.
-Half of the posts don't display: http://s30.postimg.org/yrzysgeg1/Capture.png-Search doesn't work. -quotes/links in messages 404. -database doesn't synch. -text doesn't parse right in editor. TL;DR: unusable as forum software. As expected. [...] Everything is better than SMF. Stop trolling. It is pretty obvious that envy is present here.
OIC. Happy New Year  |
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[...] Wrong. I'm using the new software right now. Stop trolling because you have no evidence to back up such claims.
Everybody lies. However, in this case I'm not. So, by "using it now," you meant what, exactly? Databases aren't synched, most of the stuff doesn't work, most of the posts don't display, so useless for its intended purpose. What were you doing with it? |
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Sure. These things take time. Just checking in, seeing if I missed the 2 million dollar beta of our new bbs forum software. Oh, since you're in the loop, how will the beta interact with this, the legacy forum? Share the database? Happy New Year! Missed 2 million? Nothing is missed, theymos has the right to do whatever he wants with that money. 1. "if I missed the 2 million dollar beta" != 2 million dollars is missing. Parsing error. 2. Been covered, start here. ATM all the data from this forum has been transferred to the Beta. However, I'm not sure how it is going to work while both forums are active (Beta being public and this forum still being mainly used), but eventually it should merge into a single one.
Yeah, just fired it up in TOR browser. Feel sorry for competing forum software, almost unfair how good it is. Now I see where all the money went.  @knightdk: Create a new user, that works fine. And will likely do so for the foreseeable future.
Wrong. I'm using the new software right now. Stop trolling because you have no evidence to back up such claims. So. Lying through your teeth? |
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Sure. These things take time. Just checking in, seeing if I missed the 2 million dollar beta of our new bbs forum software. Oh, since you're in the loop, how will the beta interact with this, the legacy forum? Share the database? Happy New Year! |
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[...] The current status of the software is that it's ~85% done. The core of it is entirely functional and often much better/faster than SMF, though there are still several missing features. There will be a public beta before the end of the month, I think, at which time I'll post more about what's left to be done. Also see http://epochtalk.org/ for more info. Not yet? |
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I've been reading this thread for a few days and wasn't gonna comment but you OP just forced it. You tell cobra to post from their main acct but yet youre hiding behind your alt??? Hypocrite much?
Had I claimed to be the owner of this website (or the king of Siam), and logged in from an account created last year, you mean? Yes, it would be hugely hypocritical. I claim to be no one beyond Anon, so I guess the short answer is 'no.' BTW, next time anyone tells you they own this forum (or the Brooklyn Bridge)? Consider not simply taking their word for it. |
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Dunno why you complicate things, be patient..we will see everything soon.
Because account is registered in 2014. Because bitcoin.org != bitcoin talk.org. Because 'one of the administrators of bitcoin.org' != 'owner of bitcoin talk.org. Because posting from main account is not complicated. |
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No, that is not what I said. Maybe I wasn't clear enough the first time. Let me try again.
Theymos has made many modifications to the forum software, primarily to patch security issues. I don't know the extent of the changes, but you can search around for them in this forum as they have been mentioned in many posts by Theymos in the past. These changes may not be compatible with the latest software. Introducing these mods to the updated software could introduce new security holes yet those changes may be desired for this forum. To add those changes and then hunt down any potential security bugs is probably not worth the effort. [...] You know that copy of Windows for Workgroups you're still running, because the custom security patches you made would be a 'big pain in the ass' to port to Windows 8? You know how you're writing your own OS from scratch, so you could use those security cludges you wrote? Well, some claim you might be OK going with Windows 8, even tho [...]
When new software versions are released nowadays, some of the security holes from the previous versions often get (by oversight and due to shabby workmanship) omitted. Making them difficult, if not outright impossible, to 're-patch.' [...] |
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I think he is saying ... Since it is a PRIVATE BETA, he is not allowed to disclose any information about said PRIVATE BETA so he cannot post a screenshot. He is NOT running the software on his own box.
Are you a part of this private beta? Or just guessing with your caplock on? The advantages are that all of the modifications that Theymos and all of the other past and present admins that were made will be in the new software. This forum has not been updated to the latest and greatest SMF because the current one works and adding all of the mods and security patches that have already been made would be such a pain in the ass. There have been many changes to the forum software such that to upgrade to a new system could be potentially dangerous.
Two and a half million dollars' worth of a pain in the ass?! This is just frickin' forum software, not rocket surgery. So what you're telling me is it's easier to do everything from scratch? Easier than starting with hardened, updated & feature-enhanced version of current software, you say? And though this forum has the functionality and looks of an off-the-shelf '09 SMF, theymos completely recoded the back end in hand-optimized assembler, counting clock cycles as he went along, and this '09 SMF is a sleeper with chained death under the hood, correct? Look, I wanna believe you, but I don't. Because you'd be lying. Find it pretty insulting that you expect me to buy this "Theymos did important, complicated and dangerous stuffs you won't understand because scientific and dangerous, so don't ask!" shit. There have been many changes to the forum software such that to upgrade to a new system could be potentially dangerous.
Honest? More dangerous than running brand new software coded by dude calling himsel wangbus, who, btw, theymos never even met? Intrigued, do tell me more. Security holes patched here would need to be re patched.
When new software versions are released nowadays, some of the security holes from the previous versions often get (by oversight and due to shabby workmanship) omitted. Making them difficult, if not outright impossible, to 're-patch.' Follow this links to SMF to learn the new shit that happened in the software world since '09. Changes made here would need to be remade. Other problems could crop up with using the new software such as new security vulnerabilities.
I agree, changing from '09 version to a new major version, one which underwent an extra 7 years of development, might introduce some security vulnerabilities. Good thing there's no chance of that happening with new software coded by (at best) an unknown company with no experience in coding forum software & beta tested by a handful of toadying yes-men |
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[...] Give it up to 2 more months weeks and you will see why you were wrong.
Not before the end of the month? [...]There will be a public beta before the end of the month, I think, at which time I'll post more about what's left to be done.
I have no idea why it doesn't run on your box, because it's broken? I'm as trusting of this 'private beta' as I am of theymos honestly spending 2.3+ million dollars on new BBS forum software. What could a screen cap possibly reveal that's not in the source code, exactly? Why would an open source project be afraid to post screen caps? How many layers of bullshit are you going to pile on here? |
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You clearly don't understand how open source software works, Secret Squirrel.
Also: Get better at lying, or stop embarrassing yourself.
Epochtalk is the software behind BTCT AFAIK, that is open source. The new BTCT is not open to the public (yet). Not sure what you think you're implying here, but it is definitely wrong. Not implying anything, Lauda -- telling you that you're lying like a rug. You did not post a screenshot because you don't have it running on your box. Just how credulous do you think I am? [...]
The current status of the software is that it's ~85% done.
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Pains me to see you reduced to lying and toadying for the few crumbs that fall your way from theymos' table, Lauda.
I don't get anything that I do not deserve by moderating. Me agreeing or disagreeing with theymos (I do on quite a few things) does not affect that at all. The forum is there. If I had the 'green light' to post a screenshot I would. Until then, you will have to be a bit more patient Lebowski. >If I had the 'green light' to post a screenshot I would. You clearly don't understand how open source software works, Secret Squirrel. Also: Get better at lying, or stop embarrassing yourself. |
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Pains me to see you reduced to lying and toadying for the few crumbs which fall your way from theymos' table, Lauda.
Спасибо товарищу Сталину за наше счастливое детство!
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And will likely do so for the foreseeable future.
Wrong. I'm using the new software right now. Stop trolling because you have no evidence to back up such claims. Please feel free to describe the advantages of the new (as yet unfinished, $2.3 million dollar ++) software over SMF 2.0.11. Also: You can not possibly know how secure the new (unfinished and untested) software is. You can not possibly know how how it will scale. You can not possibly know what maintenance/community support will beAlso: [...]
But this is all beside the point. The software is just a byproduct -- flotsam and jetsam -- neither here nor there. You know this as well as I do.
*but kudos for knowing who butters your bread. |
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Nobody needs "millions of dollars just sitting around." This doesn't imply that the only options are "flushing it down the toilet" or "spend it on re-writing existing, in all likelihood superior, and most of all *free,* software." Also of note: -After a 2.3-million-dollar expenditure, there is NO NEW FORUM SOFTWARE, better or worse than SMF 1.1.19, the six-year-old 2009 copy of SMF forum software bitcointalk is currently running. There's no product. -Better forum software already exists, one example is called SMF 2.0.11. It's the Sept. 2015 update of SMF 1.1.19, the six-year-old 2009 copy of SMF forum software bitcointalk is currently running. It's tested, it works, and you can click here to download it for free. -In the meantime, bitcointalk is still running the shitty six-year-old 2009 copy of SMF software. And will likely do so for the foreseeable future. But this is all beside the point. The software is just a byproduct -- flotsam and jetsam -- neither here nor there. You know this as well as I do. |
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>What else was he supposed to do with the money exactly?
You're confused as to what should be done with $2.3 million one has no immediate use for?
You feel that it should be immediately flushed down the toilet? Have you considered *saving* it?
>Theymos owns the forum
No, theymos does not own this forum.
Theymos has never claimed to be the owner of this forum.
Theymos runs this forum, like a CEO runs a company.
The money was not donated to theymos, it was donated to bitcointalk.
When a CEO pockets corporate funds, it's called embezzlement, which is a bad thing.
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