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1  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Scammer: Dank on: October 23, 2012, 08:44:36 PM
Dank is just a Something Awful troll.  There is no reason to trust anything he says.

2  Other / Meta / Re: Censorship on Bitcointalk on: October 23, 2012, 08:35:34 PM
I think it's kind of ironic some of the obvious excuses trotted out to ban Rarity have tripped all over themselves and become nonsense.

For instance, it has been suggested that Rarity should be banned because his request to have the written agreement he made with dank honored was considered a "mockery" and that he should be banned because he is a "Something Awful" troll.

I am an SA member, joined to get to the bottom of this, and the truth is that Dank is the actual SA troll in this situation.  He has even admitted it, though there is no such evidence for Rarity aside from speculation.



So what actually occurred was SA troll dank obviously never intended to fulfill his agreement and even admitted sabotaging it in the scammer thread.  Why blame an innocent member like Rarity for getting trolled by SA into making the scammer thread?

If any of these excuses aimed at Rarity were true and just reasons to ban, he would still be here and the real SA troll who mocks our proud scammer tag tradition would be gone.
3  Other / Meta / Re: Censorship on Bitcointalk on: October 23, 2012, 08:19:33 PM
^ Rarity should have been banned for saying death threats should be moderated and for discussing Zhou Tong and Psychology in a thread about Zhou Tong and psychology.  And Dancing Dan should be banned for assuming what they already admitted in this thread, that they acted in response to what Rarity said to Theymos.

We get it, let's go back to the real issue here since Dan is no longer with us.

Dancing Dan has raised some serious questions.  Instead of answering them, the moderators pointed to a site hidden behind a paywall and banned him for it.  I can't think of any better confirmation that he was right about this all along.
4  Other / Meta / Re: [To Theymos] Why was Goat banned? on: October 23, 2012, 08:16:56 PM
The censorship is getting absolutely out of control, you need to be aware that by posting this question you are at risk of being banned.

Check out here:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=118154.0

User Rarity was banned for criticizing Theymos.  Dancing Dan posted a thread asking for discussion about this and was banned for it as well.  The Iron Curtain is falling on Bitcointalk, we must all watch what we say around Dear Leader Theymos and his Central Committee of yes-men.  If I stop posting on these forums soon, it means I was banned for pointing this out too.
5  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Nefario on: October 22, 2012, 11:28:10 PM
As it was organized, it was an illegal securities trading market.

Oh and even if we cared what some gang of thugs thought about his company, I fail to see how his company could have possibly fit the definition of a securities trading market when there was no money ever involved in what this company did.

I mean unless bitcoins somehow recently became money legally speaking, I don't know what the fuck you are taking about.

The securities themselves are regulated, you could trade them for pogs and pinecones and it wouldn't matter.


bwhahahahaha you can't be serious cause man, someone should tell this every MMORPG out there, esoecually games like Second life or EVE Online..

If you tried to set up a securities market for real world companies that took payment in WoW gold, yes that would be illegal.  The games are not doing that.  

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I don't presume Nefario gives a rats ass about his scammer tag, but you better believe he is done for life when it comes to doing business in the Bitcoin world because no one will ever trust this scum ever again.

Do you happen to know what my name is?
6  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Nefario on: October 22, 2012, 11:25:16 PM
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Except, as it was organized, it wasn't his to close.

If he did the right thing he would have gone to jail and took responsibility for his actions that he alone was responsible for and whould have gotten his legal advance on his own dime before taking anyone's money.  

As it was organized, it was an illegal securities trading market.  Generally, the government isn't going to care about the company rules involved when they are deciding who will go to jail.  That's one of the drawbacks with illegal business, hard to get the government to enforce your contracts.  

Have an illegal drug business?  I don't recommend thinking the cops are going to help you get your drugs back if another dealer rips you off even though he agreed not to.

I don't have a clue what you are talking about or why any of what you said matters.

He owned a company. He sold ownership to that company. He did stuff other owners didn't give permission to and he ended up unilaterally shutting down a good company screwing the other owners and the users' privacy in the process. What some gang of thugs thought about his company is completely irrelevant.

He organized an illegal company.  There is nothing to stop him from doing whatever he wants with the money because nobody will go to the police to stop him.  An unenforceable contract is not worth the paper it is printed on.

Obviously. Hence why he received his scammer tag.

"The other drug dealer called me a thief! That sure brings me down as I bathe in my money!"
7  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Nefario on: October 22, 2012, 11:24:11 PM
As it was organized, it was an illegal securities trading market.

Oh and even if we cared what some gang of thugs thought about his company, I fail to see how his company could have possibly fit the definition of a securities trading market when there was no money ever involved in what this company did.

I mean unless bitcoins somehow recently became money legally speaking, I don't know what the fuck you are taking about.

The securities themselves are regulated, you could trade them for pogs and pinecones and it wouldn't matter.
8  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Nefario on: October 22, 2012, 11:23:02 PM
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Except, as it was organized, it wasn't his to close.

If he did the right thing he would have gone to jail and took responsibility for his actions that he alone was responsible for and whould have gotten his legal advance on his own dime before taking anyone's money.  

As it was organized, it was an illegal securities trading market.  Generally, the government isn't going to care about the company rules involved when they are deciding who will go to jail.  That's one of the drawbacks with illegal business, hard to get the government to enforce your contracts.  

Have an illegal drug business?  I don't recommend thinking the cops are going to help you get your drugs back if another dealer rips you off even though he agreed not to.

I don't have a clue what you are talking about or why any of what you said matters.

He owned a company. He sold ownership to that company. He did stuff other owners didn't give permission to and he ended up unilaterally shutting down a good company screwing the other owners and the users' privacy in the process. What some gang of thugs thought about his company is completely irrelevant.

He organized an illegal company.  There is nothing to stop him from doing whatever he wants with the money because nobody will go to the police to stop him.  An unenforceable contract is not worth the paper it is printed on.
9  Economy / Long-term offers / Re: Dank Bank Deposits - dank soul guarantee - 1.2%-2.0% weekly - New music Oct. 19 on: October 22, 2012, 11:18:38 PM
Nobody will die because there will be nothing but love.

And which emotions caused the Station Nightclub fire?
10  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Nefario on: October 22, 2012, 11:14:54 PM
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Except, as it was organized, it wasn't his to close.

If he did the right thing he would have gone to jail and took responsibility for his actions that he alone was responsible for and whould have gotten his legal advance on his own dime before taking anyone's money.  

As it was organized, it was an illegal securities trading market.  Generally, the government isn't going to care about the company rules involved when they are deciding who will go to jail.  That's one of the drawbacks with illegal business, hard to get the government to enforce your contracts. 

Have an illegal drug business?  I don't recommend thinking the cops are going to help you get your drugs back if another dealer rips you off even though he agreed not to.
11  Economy / Long-term offers / Re: Dank Bank Deposits - dank soul guarantee - 1.2%-2.0% weekly - New music Oct. 19 on: October 22, 2012, 11:01:55 PM
This is the result of negligence in concert and concert venue planning:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Station_nightclub_fire

Taking a negligent view with the lives of people you are responsible for is seriously bad karma, which is one reason I have decided to take my karmic banking dollars elsewhere to a more spiritually sound bank.
12  Other / Politics & Society / Re: "Libertarians are not corporate apologists" on: October 22, 2012, 10:29:17 PM
But this proposal would not limit shareholder liability, it would make their house just a vulnerable as the CEO's.
13  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Scammer: Dank on: October 22, 2012, 10:26:57 PM
As I said, the part where you proposed a deal, intentionally did not perform as agreed (admitted sabotage), and tried to pass off a sabotaged product as fulfilling the agreement in an attempt to receive payment.  No matter what distracting tactics you attempt to try and turn this into some discussion of spirituality or drugs, it is clear that you are a scammer. 

Yes, Rarity was clearly right.  It's somewhat inexplicable dank has escaped the scammer tag here.  According to reviewing what occurred, dank solicited Rarity to take part in this agreement.  He proposed it and Rarity agreed.  Why an individual should be allowed to go around proposing deals with people, asking them to swear to agree in writing, and then breaking the deal despite all this is bizarre.

dank's defense appears to be a Matthew Wright style of intentionally misreading the agreement in a manner no reasonable individual ever would.  That an individual asking for a well known tune, and providing sheet music to illustrate it further, was agreeing to receive a collection of random screeching sounds does not pass the smell test.  That any musician would think the song played was the one requested is also not believable.

In fact, dank admits to intentionally sabotaging the song here out of spite, which any musician knows would make it unrecognizable:

Rarity, that is my version of Mary Had a Little Lamb, just for you.  Perhaps if you didn't spam my threads with the same questions, I would have turned the distortion down and tuned my guitar before recording.

This is akin to a painter agreeing in writing to paint a house red, and instead painting a giant red penis on it out of spite and later claiming no breach of contract because the contract was not specific enough.  No reasonable person would side with the painter.

That the song was not actually the requested song is not a matter of subjectivity, I have fed it into the music identifying service "Shazam" and it has failed to identify it as the song in question. 

dank proposed an arrangement contingent on his delivery of song, he delivered a product he knew to be fraudulent and intentionally sabotaged in an attempt to pass it off as genuine to receive payment.  A scam attempt, clearly.  That he has not received the tag is baffling to me.  It is also baffling that he is allowed to derail this serious discussion with discussions of spiritual healing and drugs while the wronged party is apparently being mocked by individuals such as Psy for some reason.


14  Other / Politics & Society / Re: "Libertarians are not corporate apologists" on: October 22, 2012, 09:29:52 PM
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The first is size itself. Without the guarantee that one’s personal assets are off limits in a lawsuit, one must take more risk in buying stock in a corporation. Imagine if potential stockholders knew that their personal assets might be at risk in a case like the BP oil spill. Some number of shareholders would decide against taking that risk, or at least limit it by acquiring less stock.

If Obama tried abolishing limited liability corporations and give trial lawyers who win a case the ability to take the CEO's mansion he would be called a communist and be impeached by the end of the day.
15  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Scammer: Dank on: October 22, 2012, 09:15:56 PM
This is a blatant attempt to distract from the accusations leveled against him with random nonsense, it's not worth engaging.
16  Other / Meta / Re: Censorship on Bitcointalk on: October 22, 2012, 07:08:57 PM
You have zero evidence Rarity is a troll, only speculation.  Rarity appears to me to be a fan of Bitcoin and a long time member here who never trolled.   This "Something Awful" site is behind a paywall, the only way you could possibly see what is happening there is if you yourself are a member.

Members of that forum are trolling with Rarity as their target, and you have just revealed yourself to be one of them.
17  Other / Off-topic / Re: International Karmic Bitcoin Bank of Ponyville IKBOP - Master Art - 10% weekly on: October 22, 2012, 06:43:59 PM
Hello,

I am posting here as the newest investor of 250 BTC at the request of Mr. Von Pahnzi to talk about my experience with the karmic interview and to assure everyone that it is a positive and enlightening experience that I am sure you will find assures you of the spiritual and financial compatibility with the Pony Bank.  

I was nervous at first, but it was a very painless process.  Mr. Von Pahnzi asked me a few simple questions that he said would help reveal my spiritual profile.  All he requested of me was that I answered with honesty and thoughtful consideration and he would pass the answers to the Bank Manager to review.  

Soon after, I received approval and we handled the more mundane business matters before I transferred the BTC.  Mr. Von Pahnzi and Twilight Sparkle both shared identification papers with me and I have confirmed they are genuine.  I have no fear they would be dishonest with me now, as if karma was not enough in the first place. (it is)

I am looking forward towards my first payout next week and I think every compatible soul should do their karmic banking with IKBOP.
18  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Scammer: Dank on: October 22, 2012, 06:34:36 PM
Yes, Rarity was clearly right.  It's somewhat inexplicable dank has escaped the scammer tag here.  According to reviewing what occurred, dank solicited Rarity to take part in this agreement.  He proposed it and Rarity agreed.  Why an individual should be allowed to go around proposing deals with people, asking them to swear to agree in writing, and then breaking the deal despite all this is bizarre.

dank's defense appears to be a Matthew Wright style of intentionally misreading the agreement in a manner no reasonable individual ever would.  That an individual asking for a well known tune, and providing sheet music to illustrate it further, was agreeing to receive a collection of random screeching sounds does not pass the smell test.  That any musician would think the song played was the one requested is also not believable.

In fact, dank admits to intentionally sabotaging the song here out of spite, which any musician knows would make it unrecognizable:

Rarity, that is my version of Mary Had a Little Lamb, just for you.  Perhaps if you didn't spam my threads with the same questions, I would have turned the distortion down and tuned my guitar before recording.

This is akin to a painter agreeing in writing to paint a house red, and instead painting a giant red penis on it out of spite and later claiming no breach of contract because the contract was not specific enough.  No reasonable person would side with the painter.

That the song was not actually the requested song is not a matter of subjectivity, I have fed it into the music identifying service "Shazam" and it has failed to identify it as the song in question. 

dank proposed an arrangement contingent on his delivery of song, he delivered a product he knew to be fraudulent and intentionally sabotaged in an attempt to pass it off as genuine to receive payment.  A scam attempt, clearly.  That he has not received the tag is baffling to me.  It is also baffling that he is allowed to derail this serious discussion with discussions of spiritual healing and drugs while the wronged party is apparently being mocked by individuals such as Psy for some reason.

19  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Newbie restrictions on: October 22, 2012, 06:10:29 PM
Restrictions make sense, keep the trolls out.
20  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Trust No One on: October 22, 2012, 06:09:57 PM
I will be careful.
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