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1  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: HashOcean disapeared and scammed 700,000 users ? ! on: June 29, 2016, 02:07:46 PM
Dear miners,
We started to send investments back to your wallet. A lot of users forgot to set a bitcoin adress for automatic payments. All investments on 26th will be returned to you. We are really sorry for what is happening, we think that it may take a few days until our website is back, that's why we started three hours ago to send your investments back.
Our mailing adress and phone service are still offline. Use our page to communicate with us. First of all, we dont have to manny solutions. A lot of users dont have a bitcoin adress, so we need one. A lot of users invested on 26th, but your investments and profit are now in a new wallet for safety and we dont have your transaction wallet adresses, that's why is not so eazy to solve this problem.
There is one way to do this. Everybody can lie and everybody can try to steal your money now, using your emaill adress. So please take care.
Use facebook messenger to send your details, you are too manny and our mailing service cant deal with it.
Send in a message the fallowing:
1. Email adress.
2. Bitcoin adress from last transaction used on HashOcean.
3. Date when your account was created.
Team HashOcean

Where did you find this? On one of the tens of "official" fb pages that appeared in the last 3 days?

I think it's fake but i can't tell for sure.

If it's real  .... let it be.

I remember when HashProfit shut down claiming Hackers attack, they also had a page saying about refunds but you had to send an email that cost 0,15BTC ? I'm not sure
2  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: HashOcean disapeared and scammed 700,000 users ? ! on: June 29, 2016, 01:12:10 PM
Of course it is your choice to be a thief or not. And it seems to be you made your choice.

It's my choice to make an investment.
I'm not a thief.

I chose to make an investment and that's the way it is

====

It's my choice to make an investment i chose and i take the risk for that investment.

It would be my choice to be a thief but I'm not.
I'm not a thief

Apparently it's your choice whit be rude



Yes it is your choice, people often say that it. But create websites/blogs and accounts on social networks to get referrals.

When people create blogs / websites and accounts on social networks they do not say the consequences of investing in hyip sites (illegal sites) just want to get the largest number of referrals you can and many people who are new to the world of Internet Business fall in these blows.

You can not be thief because not stealing anyone, but if you create a website/blog to get referrals in hyip sites? you will be being thief dream of naive people.


Sorry me but even if someone invite other people via referrals it's other people choice to invest or not
Don't blame the one who invites others via referrals link.

When they call you to sell you products ... or when you see on TV selling stuffs and they tell you all these they tell you to washbrain you ..... don't blame them.
You are the one who makes the choice.
So .... no ... if someone refers people .... he is not the bad guy.

I tried to refer people and I;m not denying it ....
but when i did it .... i made them clear that is a risk ....
I told them about my experience using HashProfit and i told them that is totally sure one day HashOcean will shut down.

I want to thank the stranger who invited me to join to ponzi cloud mining companies and helped me to earn a few dollars.

Thankyou

Hey I'm sorry that I hurt you feelings... but let's just take a view from above of that situation, you start to referal!!!

You NeverbeenKissed introduce yourself and the game...

"Hallo guys check this out, I, the holy Mother neverbeenkissed Teresea, wan't to help you to earn some bucks.

In the worldwideweb, there are a few scammer which run a game called "Ponzi". There's just one snag.
I can just profit if I support that scammer and persuade you to invest your money there. Because if you not. I'll get scammed.
The greatfull scammers will pay me a stake of your money as long as I found enough people to scam, so they will pay you as long you help.
There is a difference between me, you and the scammer,
they are thiefs and we just help to scam more people and get a stake from the scammed,
which were the last one or dumb enough to put in their saving there is nothing bad. We just only have to informe the new victime they could get scammed. That's all."



Ps: Please don't pm me I don't talk with thiefs privatly.
 

You didn't hurt my feelings.
I'm not a thief, I don't scam and your message is paranoid.

It's you you hurt your parents feelings with your rude attitude and behavior.

I'm not going to waste my time with someone like you....
Type anything you want, i'll never reply to give you the satisfaction you're craving about.

Wish you the best.

P.S: For once more i'd like to thank the stranger who invited me to invest to scam and ponzi and helped to earn a few dollars and i managed to pay some of my bills
3  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: HashOcean disapeared and scammed 700,000 users ? ! on: June 29, 2016, 11:33:44 AM
Of course it is your choice to be a thief or not. And it seems to be you made your choice.

It's my choice to make an investment.
I'm not a thief.

I chose to make an investment and that's the way it is

====

It's my choice to make an investment i chose and i take the risk for that investment.

It would be my choice to be a thief but I'm not.
I'm not a thief

Apparently it's your choice to be rude


Yes it is your choice, people often say that it. But create websites/blogs and accounts on social networks to get referrals.

When people create blogs / websites and accounts on social networks they do not say the consequences of investing in hyip sites (illegal sites) just want to get the largest number of referrals you can and many people who are new to the world of Internet Business fall in these blows.

You can not be thief because not stealing anyone, but if you create a website/blog to get referrals in hyip sites? you will be being thief dream of naive people.


Sorry me but even if someone invite other people via referrals it's other people choice to invest or not
Don't blame the one who invites others via referrals link.

When they call you to sell you products ... or when you see on TV selling stuffs and they tell you all these they tell you to washbrain you ..... don't blame them.
You are the one who makes the choice.
So .... no ... if someone refers people .... he is not the bad guy.

I tried to refer people and I;m not denying it ....
but when i did it .... i made them clear that is a risk ....
I told them about my experience using HashProfit and i told them that is totally sure one day HashOcean will shut down.

I want to thank the stranger who invited me to join to ponzi cloud mining companies and helped me to earn a few dollars.

Thankyou
4  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: HashOcean disapeared and scammed 700,000 users ? ! on: June 29, 2016, 10:37:09 AM
Of course it is your choice to be a thief or not. And it seems to be you made your choice.

It's my choice to make an investment.
I'm not a thief.

I chose to make an investment and that's the way it is

====

It's my choice to make an investment i chose and i take the risk for that investment.

It would be my choice to be a thief but I'm not.
I'm not a thief

Apparently it's your choice to be rude
5  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: HashOcean disapeared and scammed 700,000 users ? ! on: June 28, 2016, 09:09:24 AM

You don't have to invest to ponzis.... you're not forcing to.... but please don't tell people that they don't earn investing to ponzis because they do earn.

And yes it's a risk, like any other investment is.

Ponzi schemes are stealing by lying.
If you put money in a Ponzi knowingly, you are helping the thief. You don't "earn" money, you steal it from later "investors".
On balance, the only people to make money from Ponzis are the admins.


I started with HashProfit and i lost.
I invested to HashOcean and i had profit.
I will continue invest to cloudmining and i will earn again and i know i will.
No .... i'm not stealing  from later "investors"
I take a risk to invest and i earn.
It's my choice.
6  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: HashOcean disapeared and scammed 700,000 users ? ! on: June 28, 2016, 07:55:20 AM
First of all i don't know very good English so forgive me about the way i type.

Dear everyone .....

You have to understand that you can win from ponzis..... you can have profit from ponzis and that's the way it's.
There are 2 thing for sure in life.
First it's death and second is that you can win ..... you can have profit investing to ponzis.

A ponzi will shut down in a few months like it happened with HashProfit (last year if i'm not mistaken) and HashOcean,
but until that happens you can have profit.
The 2..3..4...5... months money back is real .... and after that period you have profit.

You don't have to invest to ponzis.... you're not forcing to.... but please don't tell people that they don't earn investing to ponzis because they do earn.

And yes it's a risk, like any other investment is.

For those who invested to HashOcean 2 weeks ....1 month ... 2 months ago, yes .... ok i agree they lost their bitcoins.....
but investing to a new cloud mining company will induce you profit.

When i invested to HashProfit i lost my money cause i belonged to the ones who invested a few weeks before HashProfit shut down.
When i invested to HashOcean i managed to earn back my investment, earn the amount i lost using HashProfit and earn just a very small profit.
7  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: ▁ ▂ ▄ ▅ ▆ Cloudmining 101 (ponzi risk assessment) ▆ ▅ ▄ ▂ ▁ on: June 27, 2016, 08:05:52 PM
and yes ........
hashocean is gone ....

Well ok .... a lot of people were saying that hashocean is ponzi and they were right.
As i have said to previous posts i was a HashOcean member, i had invested a few dollars .... but at least i got them back and i managed to have a few dollars profit.
8  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: HashOcean.com Scam or legit plz on: June 02, 2016, 03:02:17 PM
It s so funny to read this stuff, especially people who know they are ponzi but still try to convince themselves it is not.

Why? Cause it s been paying for a while.....

I am embarrassed to say I have been a victim of this HashOcean. I signed up in January and had the account running fine with no problems and then right when I got comfortable and invested almost $20,000.00 within three different accounts two of them got hacked and taken from me April 28th 2016 and the last one got taken from me yesterday May 12, 2016  needless to say I am out of $20K and three accounts not to mention many other losses that came behind that. What gets me is that when you sign up the register that email and I assume the system shows the IP it was signed up from.  The only way to change the email is internally and once that is done you can kiss your account good bye. Next will be the wallet address change and password so now you are completely locked out of your account. Forget the 1-650-603-5816 that is a recording and no one will ever answer or call back. Second the email for support is a joke. You send them an email for support and they will respond at their earliest convenience  with a simple one liner that does not answer or help you in anyway. Since yesterday I have emailed them 7 times Urgency and have not received one message back or a call which I provided my direct number in every email I sent. Needless to say I hope this helps those out there looking to invest with HashOcean.

do you have proof of your investment ? atleast you can show email screenshoot or else...

I also would like to see some evidence of this $20k.

I don't know why you invested such an amount of money

Even if your account got hacked you can still claim it back.

You just have to prove the accounts are yours by providing some informations.

If i'm not mistaken even if i hack someones account and i change his/her passord the account is still his/hers and can have it back by reseting the password through his/her email.
Also as i see HashOcean doesn't provides the change of our email address.

Anyway .... I'm not calling you liar but at least you could show us some evidence.
9  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: HashOcean.com Scam or legit plz on: June 02, 2016, 09:29:27 AM
I am one one of those who had invest in HashProfit and i lost about $60.
However HashProfit claimed to return funds but  you had to pay an amount to send them an email.

About 5 months ago I invested to HashOcean and till now i have earned just a few dollars.
I also feel that HashOcean and other cloud mining sites will go down, but at least i have taken back my money and i have earned some.

Investing in a cloud mining is a risk like any other investment programs.

Back in time i had lost thousands investing to ING insurance programs and other bank investment programs.

Anyway .... i took the risk to invest in HashOcean

When i bought BTC the price was about $377, 2 days ago was about $482 and now it's about $478.
If i had kept the BTC i could have sold them today earning  much more than i have earned since today with HashOcean .... but back in time i took the risk to invest in HashOcean.

I just hope HashOCean to last a few more months
10  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: ▁ ▂ ▄ ▅ ▆ Cloudmining 101 (ponzi risk assessment) ▆ ▅ ▄ ▂ ▁ on: May 19, 2016, 11:43:56 AM
Ok...
My apologies.
11  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: ▁ ▂ ▄ ▅ ▆ Cloudmining 101 (ponzi risk assessment) ▆ ▅ ▄ ▂ ▁ on: May 18, 2016, 09:42:16 PM
I'm not here to fight, argue or anything.
I just wanted to share my experience.
And no, i haven't lost any money

The point of this thread is to help people analyse the likelihood of schemes being scams, especially ponzis. Virtually every one of those listed as "collapsed as expected" did, for a period of time, pay out.
It is up to you whether you take any notice of these ratings before investing your money. You obviously don't, so what value is your "experience" to others?
We are all aware that people are saying they receive payment from HashOcean. They will continue saying that until it stops. That what ponzis do, pay out, then stop. That's when people lose money.
If you don't want to fight or argue, then I suggest you don't put yourself in a situation where it becomes likely, by making posts of no value as above.

I'm not saying that  HashOcean is not ponzi neither is trusted.
There's something that's called freedom of speech and as i said I'd like to share my experience.
I'm not saying that people should invest to HashOcean.
Every investment is a risk no matter where you invest.
Even if HashOcean is the #1 scam ponzi.... let it be. I don't mind.
As long I'm earning these little amount of money I'm happy and I'm lucky that I haven't lost.

I respect your sayings and I'm not denying the scam-ponzi list.
I'm pretty sure that many cloud mining companies will go down. Time will show.
For sure you are experienced and you know things like others here know and for sure better than me.
HashProfit for example was identical like HashOcean, but i remember after they shut down they were returning investments to clients.
Anyway. Thank everyone for the help is provide here.
As i said i just wanted to share my experience, so if you have respect for yourself and you find yourself capable to be a part of the society, you also have to respect my sayings.

I have lost a lot of money by investing to banks, insurance companies etc....
I feel lucky enough that i earn a bit from HashOcean.
As long i earn i feel lucky.

A few days ago i didn't have a clue about this forum.
Now I'm pretty worried about investing to other cloud mining companies and i find my self not sure to do it again.
Anyway, thanks again for all the information i got here.
12  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: ▁ ▂ ▄ ▅ ▆ Cloudmining 101 (ponzi risk assessment) ▆ ▅ ▄ ▂ ▁ on: May 18, 2016, 08:14:01 PM
Hello.

A while ago i got paid 80 Euros from Coinbase.
I earned the btc from HashOcean.
I'm not saying that HashOcean and CoinBase is trusted, but till now it works for me
I just wanted to share it with you

Writing this to names (Coinbase and HashOcean) in one post is big mistake Smiley

Coinbase is trusted exchange and wallet.
HashOcean is known Ponzi scheme.

This two services that two different worlds.

I just wanted to share my experience.
I'm not saying HashOcean is not ponzi, but till now it works for me.
I get about $2/day.
I transfered the earned btc to Coinbase and i got paid

U ride them cause u re green and stupid. U will lose money but u deserve that when u invest into ponzi.

Yes, I'm stupid. Thank you.
The sure thing is that I'm less than you.
I'm not here to fight, argue or anything.
I just wanted to share my experience.
And no, i haven't lost any money
13  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: HashOcean.com Scam or legit plz on: May 18, 2016, 01:50:43 PM
It doesn't mean the company is legit just because it is paying its customers at the moment. I don't have anything against this company but to me,

The whole cloudmining idea is scam.

I never heard a person who got his/her ROI without promoting his/her referral link. You won't be that person, that's one thing i am sure of.

Well yes i know....
I know you can't say it's legit because i got paid. I never said HashOcean is legit
I said that "I'm not saying is trusted"
I just wanted to share my experience and I just hope to keep earning for another few months.

I have also promoted my referral link I'm not denying it, but i have 0 referrals.
14  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: ▁ ▂ ▄ ▅ ▆ Cloudmining 101 (ponzi risk assessment) ▆ ▅ ▄ ▂ ▁ on: May 18, 2016, 01:32:13 PM
Hello.

A while ago i got paid 80 Euros from Coinbase.
I earned the btc from HashOcean.
I'm not saying that HashOcean and CoinBase is trusted, but till now it works for me
I just wanted to share it with you

Writing this to names (Coinbase and HashOcean) in one post is big mistake Smiley

Coinbase is trusted exchange and wallet.
HashOcean is known Ponzi scheme.

This two services that two different worlds.

I just wanted to share my experience.
I'm not saying HashOcean is not ponzi, but till now it works for me.
I get about $2/day.
I transfered the earned btc to Coinbase and i got paid
15  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: HashOcean.com Scam or legit plz on: May 18, 2016, 01:19:39 PM
Hello.

A while ago i got paid 80 Euros from Coinbase.
I earned the btc from HashOcean.
I'm not saying that HashOcean and CoinBase is trusted, but till now it works for me
I just wanted to share it with you.

Your btc come from hashocean not from Coinbase, so you cant say you got paid from Coinbase because you only receive the payment from Hashocean on your Coinbase account.



I know. That's why i clarified how i got them
I said that i earned the btc from HashOcean and i got paid from Coinbase.
16  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: HashOcean.com Scam or legit plz on: May 18, 2016, 10:58:41 AM
Hello.

A while ago i got paid 80 Euros from Coinbase.
I earned the btc from HashOcean.
I'm not saying that HashOcean and CoinBase is trusted, but till now it works for me
I just wanted to share it with you.
17  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: ▁ ▂ ▄ ▅ ▆ Cloudmining 101 (ponzi risk assessment) ▆ ▅ ▄ ▂ ▁ on: May 18, 2016, 10:50:12 AM
Hello.

A while ago i got paid 80 Euros from Coinbase.
I earned the btc from HashOcean.
I'm not saying that HashOcean and CoinBase is trusted, but till now it works for me
I just wanted to share it with you
18  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: ▁ ▂ ▄ ▅ ▆ Cloudmining 101 (ponzi risk assessment) ▆ ▅ ▄ ▂ ▁ on: May 14, 2016, 10:17:49 PM
what about www.sea-mining.com  / www.hashflare.io ?


So ....  faucets are kinda waste of time
If you claim 24 hours a day from faucets you need more money for electricity than those you make  (you earn just a few dollars, euros ...etc)
If cloud mining are ponzis .....

then .... what's the best method to gain btc ?
19  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: ▁ ▂ ▄ ▅ ▆ Cloudmining 101 (ponzi risk assessment) ▆ ▅ ▄ ▂ ▁ on: May 14, 2016, 11:47:04 AM
Hello.

First of all i want to thank daniele_83 for giving me this threat and i got more knowledge.

Thank you daniele_83

My story using cloudmining is that long time ago i had invested to HashProfit and yes .... i lost a few money.

Now i use HashOcean but reading all these makes me worry more than i was before.
I just hope HashOcean to stay alive for another 3 months.

Also i've found  http://www.bitzfree.com/
Maybe it could be added to the suitable list.

A few minutes ago i changed my signature and removed referral link.
20  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: Ace of Coin - SSL - Referrals - Up to 2,000 Satoshi every 15 minutes! on: May 14, 2016, 09:46:04 AM
Can you please help me a little more

Site.name         1+2+3+4+5+6+7+8    => 7/7 = Ponzi
what's that  1+2+3 ....  ?  7/7   ?
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