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cloudbet is a notorious scam, and they claimed instant withdrawal, blatant lie.
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Oh okay, makes more sense now. he does quote Nicolas Sparks and I saw this name in his github as well, might be the first name that popped up on his mind. And the coin you sent also has a .co domains, two Colombian TLD's already. maybe it is really him. Yeah reasonable proofs, cash you are a detictive, lol. We have nothing to do with this scammer, we have to curse him be dead asap. He wastes air and food in the world. This is from his Google Plus account: https://i.imgur.com/XROKFEN.pngYeah, not much of a proof, but things are starting to add up, aren't they? I have a little feeling you found the right guy. and he might have a "watch-only" account to observe this thread, or maybe multiple ones. Whether somebody has communications in darknet? I am ready to pay to guys work on a tension of a ass of Wasserman on a baseball bat I think, need public execution ... Scummers must die.
Pretty sure those statements could get you in trouble, I wouldn't say it in public. LOL, you think that scammer is ok, but their curses are not ok? Come on, FBI is not moron, they will catch the scammer first The "FBI" are not going after online scammers. but death threats might interest them. When FBI must find REAL man - scammer ... When threat may be real ... Now REAL man no ... Fear, fear, we cannot live in fear ... You are right, if they don't find op, how can they verify the threat is real or just saying? Yeah, op's whole family is dead. He accused me made campaign against him, everything is clear now.
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299 btc scam, damn... Did police catch him?
Did the victims report to police? If not, they won't catch him.
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Where is bitcoinexpert? Where is the thing going on?
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Or is his alt. The accounts - wasserman99
- frankopair
- opairfrank
- kooke
- tomsmith26
- Isildur (official)
- Dank Frank
have some strange connection. newbies I didn't count here and the list is not complete. Maybe investing less in buying account will leave some time and money for an hangout interview? Lol it isn't untill now I notice this post, dude if you want to investigate stuff, better learn how to first. About you and Isildur I was hesitating a lot. But I think kooke is clear now (and burnt and because of this silent), tomsmith26 is still shilling in a very strange way. Rest is "offical". They accused me as a shill. I am a scam buster, how can be a shill? I only destroy scam, maybe I hurt kooke's balls.
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I have documentation. Tomorrow, I give notice to the prosecutor's office
You see my name? I hope all scammers will go die.
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Hi
I took lower than I would usually charge for this campaign can you please send me the 0.25 that is due to me to the address provided. If I come online tomorrow and the payment has not been made I will be forced to open a scam accusation against you. 12 hours and I will start getting the accusation prepared.
Thanks
Come on...
You haven't been online for several days during the signature campaign and people report to us about your inactivity. When it comes to payment, you are so active.The work is not complete yet. We need either member's email address or their antshares address. I'm afraid we can't make the payment until the data is sufficient for us. Thanks Antshares is contradicting himself, they ignore people's questions and issue after their ico is over. They leaked the email address to the public, they lost many people's bounty info. Like they said, "When it comes to payment, you are so active" After they got 6k btc, they run away with the fund, and they asked us to submit the form, what, shouldn't they count our info???
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Where is frank, what does he think of the current situation?
There is no Frank, this is a One man show. Someone trying to fraud as much btc he can. LOL, he will delete your comment, let's see.
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It is so funny, many people want to release the fund, so they should check this thread for the answer. If they all read it and start to think with brain, they will not hope SebastianJu releases the fund. Who wants to release the funds? It are just kooke and wasserman, majority in the thread trust SJ to hold the coins. I saw this, kooke said there are 15 ppl, therefore i wrote many ppl. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1558596.msg16122869#msg16122869BTW, looks like kooke is wasserman's shill or alt, he likes copy-paste, and defames those 2-word acccount scam busters as "competitor's shills". ROFLMAO. Kooke is wassermans alt or wife or manlover. Both of their accounts went idle in late October 2014 and came back right before Opair. Kooke came back a week before Opair was announced. I've asked them a bunch what their relationship is but they refuse to answer. If we would have asked at start of ICO I'm sure they would have said they don't know each other. The most possible explanation is the scammer bought these 2 accounts, wasserman for scamming, kooke for shilling. Many ico scams did the same trick, buy olds registered account.
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Hi, We already give our opinion, its the same over and over again. Like everyone else, we are being affected by this situation. We just want to reach an agreement with SebastianJu. As many messages are being written, I will copy mine so that interested parties can read them: True, but it's also SJ's fault for agreeing to escrow and saying terms later. Community demanded escrow so he had to do it. I think this is a great solution for all. Wasserman, do you agree? The $2,500 SJ would make if no one took refunds would be well worth it, but most bitcointalk people are lazy or can't do BTC stuff at work. It is a decent solution though. Wasserman would you agree if SJ agreed to take the phase 2 XPO as escrow? SJ would then be responsible for paying people XPO and sending you the BTC or refunding people BTC and sending you the XPO and you could just keep releasing things to increase the value of XPO on exchanges so people would take the XPO and release the escrow BTC to you.
edit: This would be very good as you could then give SJ the email address of every phase 2 user, the BTC they invested, and the XPO they should receive. Right now, it's hard for SJ to communicate with users since he doesn't have their email. This solution might be good for everyone. Wasserman, do you agree?
Yes, as I said we are open to accept any plan (we think that the BoldNinja proposal is the most suitable) but we need the consensus with SJ to reach an agreement. Given its too much work I dont think that SJ agree to it, but if he is ok this, we are too. Regards Dank, again, if SJ want to see some development before release the funds its OK!!!!! But why he dont accept a plan that includes delivering the work before releasing the funds. He does not accept anything. A plan like this: I don't see where is the problem. Simple
You received 60 BTC which is a lot in stage 1. That should get you a head-start and to get trust from investors :
1. Pay the bounties from stage 1 you will be left with more than 50 BTC 2. Release the wallet and distribute the coins if you think you got much less than you wanted well that's a risk every developer has to accommodate sometimes less is more in crypto ( a lot of now sucessful projects even started as a joke and are now in top 50 coins without any starting funds) apart from that I'm OK if you take that 9% that was reserved for PoW as development fund and that should give you motivation for your project to be properly developed.
Now for the escrow :
1. You get 20% of escrow when you distribute coins and post working basic wallet along with source (that's additional 15-18 BTC I don't know how much was raised in stage 2 ) 2. You get 20% when you list it on Bittrex and not some shitty exchange (3 BTC listing fee will get you additional 15 BTC for development)
You are still left with more than 80 BTC (stage1+stage2) you can start developing the wallet you promised.
3. You get 20% when you release wallet you promised (beta one) 4. You get 40% when it's functional (I'm not saying smart contracts, debit cards, ... ) but that it is stable
We agree with this but we only want the confirmation from SJ. Regards Hi,
As I said a lot of times, we can work with the funds of the first phase we only want to have an agreement with SJ about the other funds before continue with the development. A simple roadmap, milestones...like the plan proposed by BoldNinja. Because without plan, we dont know that even if we do all that thing SJ will release the funds or not...example: If we send the xpo coin to an user and after that SJ refund him, what we can do? that user will have his btc back and the xpo coins // or if we hire someone // etc...there are a lot of problem working in this way, so the best is first reach an agreement with sebastianju or that he refund all the investor who want exit. After that, with all the things clear we can work without problems.
Regards
I think we need a deadline for launching the wallet and list in exchange. If you claim you are not scam, prove it!
Instead of arguing with the phase 2 fund, please show some dev progress?
Whether he's a scam or not, he can't distribute coins to phase 2 users because then they could get coins and get the refund of their BTC so fastest way to settle this would be to only distribute phase 1, get on an exchange with a good price and phase 2 users would demand that sebastianju release the BTC to Wasserman so they could get their XPO. You're making this too complex like wasserman does. It's possible to distribute all coins. Then the users who want to be refunded just contact SJ and send back their XPO for their BTC (matching BTC addresses should be fairly easy). Once opair hits exchange(s) the refund process is over and no one can request BTC refund. As simple as that... Yes, this option, the community plan, and others are great idea but, at this point, we need the confirmation of SJ that he would accept that. We only ask to SJ to accept any plan. He has most of the funds, if not reach an prior agreement he could change his mind at any time and decide anything. Another problem is the slowness of SJ to respond. I'm tired of sending private messages to him and not responding. As all of you, we want a solution as soon as possible. Regards Regards I got it very clear in my PM from SJ you need to show something first and you lost all trust all by yourself, we want proof of work! Stop repeating the same BS over and over again. Forget about the escrow and start using the BTC65. You wouldn't had raised the BTC84 coins in escrow anyways if it wasn't for SebastianJu. Don't you really get it that this isn't bringing you and the project nowhere if you are really serious about it? Come on use some common sense please. As I said a lot of times, we can work with the funds of the first phase
Then start working, you are the untrusted one here and SebastianJu is doing a awesome job right now by not agreeing to anything you say. Frank, you know this wasserman is ready to run away with 65 btc fund, but he thought the other part of 85 btc is easy to cheat from SJ, therefore he wanted to get that money asap. SJ is a great escrow. Wasserman's eyes are full of money
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100 tweets for 0.003 btc? You are dreaming.
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This scam project now renamed as ZION, OP you can modify the thread now. This guy tries to scam using another name, shame on him.
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Quote from: wasserman99 on August 29, 2016, 11:26:32 PM Hi, The expenses are for: 1) Salaries. We are a team of three but we want to add one-two more. 2) Marketing pre -ico 3) Signature 4) Marketing pro -ico 5) Legal fee. Organize a structure. Before spending more funds we need to have confirmation of our agreement. It is not the same organize a work plan, considering that we have 70 btc or 150 btc. Even we can not make the disitribución@electroniccash, I think you said wasserman is a Brazilian who speaks Portuguese, wasserman typed this word "disitribución" is a Portuguese word? Good find. wasserman to SebastianJu: "If you decide for the option 1 you are killing the project because with only 70 btc minus 7-8 btc from signature campaign, legal fees and marketing expenses is very low amount to do something." IMO this situation is done by wasserman, he insisted to decline the interview to proof the devs' identities. He deserves this.
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Not many indeed, maybe 10%? And most of trading volume is speculation.
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Yes, next month is alpha release, you know alpha release is very far from official launch, alpha test means full of bugs, buggy features. And the greedy team looks shady like steem, nice job, large proportion premined, and ico for 5% part. The price bubble will be burst
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NEOS today-tomorrow will hit 40-50k on top Rly 50k ? Ahaha dat funny Haha, let he dreams, and the reality will break his sweet dreams.
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proven criminal fraud? Oh im so sorry I must have missed. Where did a Judge make a ruling on this case?
gogo is right. you're a cock sucker.
LMAO.
Don't be sorry, you're just another sock-puppet account trying to mislead people into believing that Eric Hansen is involved in this scam. Not only is this proven criminal fraud it is fucking admitted criminal fraud, dumb-ass. Both sock-puppet accounts Shogdite and Phoenix posted denials that they were not the original owners of the accounts during the ICO period when they were collecting money from people. But later admitted they were not the original owners of those accounts and tried to play down the significance of that fact by stating that it was only because they were going to be setting up a gambling site and didn't want their identities known in case they were breaking gambling laws. Trouble is they collected money on the basis of claiming to be the original owners of those forum accounts. Which, unfortunately for you my dumb-fuck friend, means they have actually admitted to personal gain through false pretences, i.e. 'Fraudulent Misrepresentation', otherwise known as, 'Fraud'. Stringcoin is sock-puppet of Eris Hansen. I don't think any other reasons why he ignore the truth once, twice and many times.
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Wasserman, it is over! You can paste hundred pictures here and in all other scam-threads, but here you can't just erase the facts.
And your "it was everything clear from the beginning" will not explain, why you made fake profiles.
And at least because you have been so greedy not to ask Mr. Winheller or so selfish not to accept my tax support, approx. 35%- 50% of the whole ICO will be probably taken away by taxes.
wasserman is full of bullshits, he is good at lying to new investors, and deleted negative posts.
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