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Well now revisiting this a few weeks later, those who said we all were full of shit, whatcha think about MtGox just all of a sudden finding 200k bitcoin?  |
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if you are not a shareholder of any FireMine shares you should probably find a more interesting discussion topic  I dunno. This seems pretty interesting to me? Launch IPO Claim a few large payouts within days to attempt to get more buy-ins. Less than 2 weeks later stop trading, blame it on the cryptostocks website and "offer" to buy-back shares at steeply discounted rates? Da fuck? I have looked at the info before on what it takes to be listed on Cryptostocks, and IMHO, they need to up their requirements. Too many scams have been on there. Ooooohhhhh...take the money and run.... |
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Is logging in with Google account the only way for that site?
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FWIW - I just checked and mine has changed as well. Like mentioned above, the old address probably will still work, but if you try it, just try a small amount to see what happens.
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The supervisor is Nobuaki Kobayashi at Nagashima Ohno & Tsunematsu in Tokyo. If you have evidence of fraud or unauthorized transactions, I'd suggest putting it into a clearly written document, have it translated to Japanese, and sending the document, in both English and Japanese, with a suitable cover letter, to him at the firm's office in Tokyo. Their fax number is +81-3-5213-7800. That will put it into the record of the case. It's entirely appropriate to contact the bankruptcy supervisor if irregular activity is discovered. (One way to get a semi-decent translation of your own writing is to run what you've written through Google Translate to Japanese and back to English. Rewrite your text until it's clear after double translation. Then you have some confidence that it will be understood at the receiving end. Write in English with a very formal tone, and hope that makes it through the translator.) (You can send faxes via PDF-to-fax services if necessary.) Is that the attorney firm for GOX? Is there contact information for the actual bankruptcy "courts" in Japan for this type of information as well? If we were to submit potential evidence/information, would it not be best to submit to the bankruptcy courts instead of GOX counsel? |
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Another theory is that the feds allowed Mark to withdraw a part of his bitcoins, remmeber that so far this is the theory that makes most sense.
Maybe. However when they made their statement, they claimed that the DHS seizure was ~$5mil worth of assets. These are over $150million and these wallets weren't "counted" when they released their assets/liability claims. |
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"Tumbling" for lack of better word. I realize not tumbling in the sense of "washing them". At least, not yet.
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No no that's not laundry that's Gox allocating fund to our accounts ready for a swift return  Edit: fml I refuse to back into the hope stage of grief.  Would be nice wouldn't it? And I didn't even have any money or bitcoin on GOX, but with the way they have handled things, the community, whether vested in gox or not, need to be on top of this and find out WTF is going on right now. |
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Some people have said "maybe it's the thief". That makes no sense. What thief would have had access to these coins and not moved them the moment they had access? Sit around, wait for GOX to fail then one sunny March morning decide "hey, better move these now". Don't buy it. IMHO, someone at GOX or associated with GOX is moving these coins around, and very quickly at that.
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May be the thief (thieves) moving funds...
They are dividing sums and sending them to different addresses.
They are currently transferring and dividing big sums from each new address to two new addresses.
Every step makes sums twice smaller.
And it is happening NOW !
Pft. There was no "theft". That's BS. ALL of the 5 wallets in the link above were known to last be accessed by Mt.Gox in 2011. How could they (GOX) claim that those bitcoin were "stolen" when they were still sitting in those wallets the entire time and were never touched (until this morning that is). What, someone stole the keys to those wallets? I don't believe that. A thief would have transferred and started tumbling those BTC the moment they had access to it, not sit and wait for GOX to fall, have all eyes on GOX and then 2+ years later all of a sudden wake up one morning and decide to wipe the wallets out. |
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wow that's fucked up, over 100m dollars moved with a click of a button almost instantly!!!
with 0 fee's!
Fees 0 BTC
Actually, about $150million, give or take. |
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I can't believe this isn't bigger news. All bitcoin/crypto bloggers still focusing on the LA Bitcoin Chase from yesterday. This should be plastered all over the place right now. It's pretty damn apparent that MtGox was the last entity to have access to those bitcoins and now all of a sudden, all of those wallets on the same day are being emptied out. Wallets that haven't been touched since 2011. All at the same time. All getting "tumbled" through different addresses.
Unless MtGox releases a statement stating that they have recovered a vast amount of their "missing" bitcoins, I'm going to assume that someone either at Gox or associated with GOX is trying to get all of these bitcoin tumbled for their own personal gain.
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See this thread:https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=494695.msg5450600#msg5450600
All of a sudden this morning, the bitcoin from ALL of those wallets are on the move. About 207,000 bitcoin. Every wallet. Thoughts?
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FWIW
The wallets mentioned prior in this thread believed to be MtGox....ALL of them just transfered ALL of their bitcoin.
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This thread is only for a complete bulletproof theory There in-lies the problem. The only way to get a complete bulletproof theory is to get MtGox to open up their information and records to be scrutinized, which, hah...yeah right. With the info from the letstalkbitcoin action from 2011, it's about as solid as you can get that: 1. The two wallets being referred to were created by MtGox/Mark 2. On 2011-11-16 05:59:08, 40,000 bitcoin were transferred one wallet: ( https://blockchain.info/address/1cXNTyXj4xPGopfYZNY5xfSM1EPJJvBZV) 3. Those 40,000 bitcoin were untouched and to this moment are still in that wallet. 4. On 2011-11-16 05:59:08, 50,000 bitcoin were transferred to the other wallet: ( https://blockchain.info/address/1P3S1grZYmcqYDuaEDVDYobJ5Fx85E9fE9) 5. Those 50,000 bitcoin were untouched and to this moment are still in that wallet. TL;DR - Pretty substantial proof MTGOX/Mark had control of those wallets when the deposits were made and the bitcoin haven't moved since. |
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Just because the Bitcoin can be traced to a wallet without movement doesn't mean that the Bitcoin isn't lost or stolen. Both can still be the case, unless the address can be attached to personal or corporate identification. Even then, Bitcoin can still be lost if the personal keys are lost.
What are the addresses to the 270k Bitcoin?
See here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=494695.0Don't forget to look at the letstalkbitcoin link too to explain the first 2 wallets that got 90,000 worth of bitcoin deposited into them in 2011. |
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