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1  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: CRYPTSY stopping withdraw locking accounts without notifying users! Class Action on: February 01, 2018, 08:24:56 PM
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Meh, Vern has always been a stand up guy... im sure you will have it inside the hour...

If you dont see it within the next few hours, just wait longer. :-)




It's a completely watertight plan.  Cheesy
2  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: CRYPTSY stopping withdraw locking accounts without notifying users! Class Action on: February 01, 2018, 06:24:55 PM


well, since I dont have an account on law.com i cant see the article... but if this is about Vern, its worthless.

1) The court cannot force vern to do anything, as he has fled the jurisdiction of the court, and to a country that wont extradite him.
2) The court cannot order something to magically happen. The coins are locked in a wallet, and there is no way to get them out without the keys.

So while the judge says ok they must be returned, there is absolutely no way to enforce the order... therefore, it was a waste of paper to print the order.


That was fun... thanks for playing
 

Maybe if we ask nicely?

Vern, if you'd be so kind as to return my 1.5BTC to 19UystiZqP5JK8x7r99y7t1AvXwtkuQGQd I'd be very grateful.

cheers, Harrierx.

I'll keep you posted  Smiley
3  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: CRYPTSY stopping withdraw locking accounts without notifying users! Class Action on: January 14, 2018, 02:15:38 AM
Don't forget, if you missed the Cryptsy Lawsuit you still have a chance with the Coinbase Lawsuit....

https://www.silvermillerlaw.com/current-investigations/coinbase-class-action/

Are the people that signed up to the Cryptsy class action exempt from claiming from the Coinbase one?
Or does the Cryptsy class action cover the more recent Coinbase class action?
4  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: CRYPTSY stopping withdraw locking accounts without notifying users! Class Action on: October 01, 2017, 06:40:02 PM

Is there anyone here that got their claim accepted, is a non-us citizen and knows what we should put for the part II of the W-8 BEN from?
surely whatever funds that are eventually returned to us aren't subject to any tax?

Do you think its worth emailing the lawyers for clarification?

Claim accepted, non-us citizen:

I only filled in what country i reside in (Part II, 9)

For Part II, 10: I left it open as for it's not applicable for our case.



4Power

For everyone who is struggeling with the W-8BEN Form (especially as a German):

I just finished filling it out with some help of my lawyer.
So you have to fill in accordingly:

Everything should be filled out with -> UPPER CASE LETTERS <-
Remember that the US can't handle ß,ä,ö and ü. Use SS, AE, OE and UE instead.

Part I
1. First name Last name (Last name = family name)
2. Country (GERMANY)
3.1 Address. Use STR. instead of STREET/STRAẞE
3.2 City + , + Post ID. (EXAMPLETOWN , 12345)
3.3 Country
4. Stays empty
5. Stays empty
6. Tax ID (in German: Steuer Identifikationsnummer)
7. Claim number (put your claim number in that you recieved per e-mail)
8. Date of birth. Remember: The U.S. uses a different order! Its Month - Day - Year, so 20. of January 1990 would be 01-20-1990
Part II
9. I certify that the beneficial owner is a resident of -> GERMANY <- ...
10. Special rates and conditions.
     My lawyer told me what i should put in there. You can use that if you are from germany, but i guess it would be different for other nations.
     "The beneficial owner is claiming the provisions of Article and paragraph 4 - 1 of the treaty identified on line 9 above to claim a
     0% rate of withholding on (specify type of income): CLASS ACTION LAWSUIT, OTHER INCOME
     Explain the additional conditions in the Article and paragraph the beneficial owner m to be eligible for the rate of withholding:
     UNDER ARTICLE 4 OF THE U.S. / GERMANY INCOME TAX TREATY I AM LIABLE TO GERMAN INCOME TAX BASED ON MY DOMICILE;
     RESIDENCE AND CITIZENSHIP. UNDER SEC 894.20 I AM ENTITLED TO US INCOME TAX TREATY BENEFITS AS ALL MY INCOME IS 100%
     TAXABLE IN GERMANY.


At the bottom, sign with your name, below you also have to write your signature in big letters again.
On the right the date, again like 09-29-2017.

Then make a copy of your government ID, drivers license or passport.
Also include a copy of the Cryptsy Settlement Determination Notice which you got per e-mail.

Send these 3 things via certified mail with return receipt (German: Einschreiben) to the address stated in the Determination Notice.
That's it Smiley

Hope i could help someone, this lawyer cost me 120€ to fill this damn thing out correctly Cheesy

As a resident of the UK, how transferable is what you have for part II 10.? Is it simply a case of swapping out the relevant part of the US/UK tax treaty? I Imagine that it is fairly similar to the US/GER treaty. Any help would be appreciated,
Cheers
5  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: CRYPTSY stopping withdraw locking accounts without notifying users! Class Action on: September 17, 2017, 04:38:25 PM
Is there anyone here that got their claim accepted, is a non-us citizen and knows what we should put for the part II of the W-8 BEN from?
surely whatever funds that are eventually returned to us aren't subject to any tax?

Do you think its worth emailing the lawyers for clarification?

Claim accepted, non-us citizen:

I only filled in what country i reside in (Part II, 9)

For Part II, 10: I left it open as for it's not applicable for our case.



4Power





Thanks for that 4Power   Smiley
6  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: CRYPTSY stopping withdraw locking accounts without notifying users! Class Action on: September 17, 2017, 03:15:53 PM
Is there anyone here that got their claim accepted, is a non-us citizen and knows what we should put for the part II of the W-8 BEN form?
surely whatever funds that are eventually returned to us aren't subject to any tax?

Do you think its worth emailing the lawyers for clarification?
7  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: CRYPTSY stopping withdraw locking accounts without notifying users! Class Action on: December 31, 2016, 07:54:21 PM


Normally, I fuck with Newbies requesting shit, but in your case your post is well written and comes across as secure, thus ...

Assuming you have the txIDs of all the transactions to Cryptsy's know wallets, I'd say you're more than halfway there in proving your case. Same true for all others in a similar situation regardless if they were later fully refunded because the servers were wiped clean. Think about it.  Wink Wink Wink

Haha, I appreciate your time and your restraint in messing with me, I was expecting some flak for sure. I do have transaction receipts for my Cryptsy BTC address from another exchange (as in email confirmations to a cryptsy wallet), do you suppose they would be of use?

again, many thanks Smiley

8  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: CRYPTSY stopping withdraw locking accounts without notifying users! Class Action on: December 31, 2016, 05:44:19 PM
Hi guys, sorry to interject,  but I have a question regarding the cryptsy hack and that is, how do I prove the value of my accounts at the time that I could no longer access funds?

From what I've read, the servers were wiped and so it's not possible to look at my account info? I had 1.56BTC in my account at the time but I can't seem to find a way to prove this concretely. Is there anything that I can do? I assume there are quite a few people in my situation. Any help on the matter would be greatly appreciated.

Cheers
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