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1  Economy / Auctions / Auction 1.5 TH/s Butterfly labs mining rig for sale. on: February 25, 2014, 08:07:23 AM
I have (24) 60 ghz singles which are currently hashing away at the datacenter.

Make me an offer.  The reason one of the miners is missing in the 2nd pic is because it was defective when I got it.  It was replaced with a new one. 

http://imgur.com/V5YCNPw

http://imgur.com/WuepKkc

2  Economy / Speculation / Gox price is and volitility fucking nuts. on: February 16, 2014, 11:57:55 PM
Either I just missed out on the biggest profit of the year or I'm going to be so glad I pulled my money out when I did. 

I had over 25k with a huge buy order at 250 which had been sitting there for months.  Last week I decided to cash my money out and put it in cold storage.  My order would have gone through had I just waited one more week for a 400% return.

Now, look at the trade volume and price.  WTF is going on behind closed doors over there.  Some crazy shit is going down.  It really strikes me as odd that all this would happen on the very week that silkroad 2.0 "gets hacked"

Has there been any info release as to where those stolen coins have gone?  Is it possible to track?  My conspiracy theory says that the reason gox is so low is that those coins are getting dumped right now at the same time all this panic is happening to distract from whats really going down over there. 

Is this all part of the master plan of the unknown silkroad 2.0 hackers?

If it can be verified that those coins are directly related to the silkroad 2.0 wouldn't that make them subject to forfeiture.  They have already done it once. 
3  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Butterfly labs announces 600GHs "videocard" sized card monarch priced at $4680 on: August 17, 2013, 09:50:46 PM
http://www.butterflylabs.com/monarch/

.28 nm process. 
Consumes 350W. 
Shipping by end of year. 

Top question on their FAQ.

Q. Hey you Jerks, what are you doing announcing 28nm gear while you're still shipping 65nm? I want my Single!

A. 65nm products are shipping in great volume, but will be out of production long before the first 28nm Monarch cards are through development and ready to be shipped.  If you haven't already received your 65nm product, you will very shortly.  The ASIC engineering team finished 65nm development long ago and turned it over to production.  Chip development is traditionally a 12 month process, so ASIC engineering teams have to be forward thinking in order to provide the best technology to the market.  28nm development began a long time ago.  Please don't think that this means production of your singles ever lost a second of focus.  They are different teams and we've put enormous resources into building our supply chain & production capacity.  Nothing is more important than shipping your order as fast as possible.

Sort of have mixed feelings about this.  I'm still waiting for my minirig to get here and now I know that thing will be worthless in less then a year.
4  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Historical Difficulty Increase last 90 days. 248% on: July 23, 2013, 06:17:48 AM
Historical Difficulty Increase last 90 days.

30 Day @ 62 % / month
60 Day @ 179% (89.5% per month)
90 Day @ 248 %(82% per month)

- discuss
5  Economy / Scam Accusations / My analysis of the claim BFL is violating law by not registering with FCC rules. on: July 12, 2013, 05:49:13 AM
Here is my analysis, I actually spend a few hours researching this.  Feel free to disagree with any point here.   I did this after reading a few BFL hater claims and wanted to see if they were just being over dramatic asshats or had a legitimate point.

In the following thread, SgtSpike asked about the FCC certification process. Josh avoided the question in his very first post after it was asked, yet had to have read it for he commented on other aspects prior to the question and on posts afterward.

https://forums.butterflylabs.com/bfl-forum-miscellaneous/690-13-jan-2013-asic-update-discussion-thread-41.html#post12289

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Josh, can you comment on the FCC certification process? Has BFL already acquired the necessary certification? If so, how was that accomplished without working chips on hand?

More curious than anything - if you can't answer these questions yet, that is fine.

For those who don't believe that Josh never brings up the FCC again, here's a link that will help you: https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&ie=UTF-8#output=search&sclient=psy-ab&q=%22butterflylabs.com%22%20fcc&oq=&gs_l=&pbx=1&fp=78629189bbca0ba2&ion=1&bav=on.2,or.r_cp.r_qf.&bvm=bv.48572450,d.aWc&biw=1066&bih=646

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The rules for FCC compliance are here:  Some may argue that BFL is violating the law by not getting certified, however its not as cut and dry as they would like to make it.

Source: http://transition.fcc.gov/Bureaus/Engineering_Technology/Documents/bulletins/oet62/oet62rev.pdf

1) Technically every device that uses a clock higher then 9khz must be certified. 

In the US, all products containing electronics that oscillate above 9 kHz must be certified. The law that governs this is FCC Part 15. The lawyers call this "Title 47 CFR Part 15," meaning that it is the 15th subsection of the 47th section of the Code of Federal Regulations. In Europe, there is a similar regulation called CISPR 22. The requirements are almost the same, but slightly stricter about emissions at certain frequencies.

You can read 47 CFR 15 online. It's not as incomprehensible as you might expect. It seems overwhelming, but if you read the first few PDF's, you'll realize that most of it irrelevant for any single product.

Within 47 CFR 15, there are two classes of testing: Class A and Class B. Class A is an easier test to pass, intended for devices that are used in industrial settings. Class B is stricter, intended for devices that are targeted at consumers.

2) Reality is a bit different right now.  From talking with some people that have experience with FCC/CE/IC leaves me with the impression that most of these regulations are rarely if ever enforced, but are in place just in case your product starts dropping airplanes out of the sky.

It is a bit like going 70 in a 65 mph zone.  Can you get pulled over and get a ticket?  Yes.  Will you get pulled over and get a ticket?  Probably not. 

3) Each country has their own certifications world wide.  Each certification has different requirements.  For a small company like BFL to try and comply with every single different standard worldwide would be an impossible task.

4) BFL products would not be classified as a "Digital Device" but rather a "Peripheral to a Digital Device"

A "Peripheral to a Digital Device" is defined as:

Any device that feeds data into or receives data from a digital device is a peripheral of
the digital device. Peripherals include external devices that connect to a digital device
by wire or cable, and circuit boards within the digital device that connect it to external
peripherals. Also included are circuit boards that increase the operating or processing
speed of a digital device. Examples of peripherals are computer printers, monitors,
keyboards, printer cards, video cards, local area network cards, modems, and
enhancement or accelerator boards.
Section 15.3(r)
Peripherals to a digital device are subject to FCC technical standards because they can
generate their own radio noise or allow the escape of radio noise generated by the
digital devices to which they are connected.

6) There is provisions to exclude certain types of devices.  A case could be argued that the BFL device does no useful work other then creating random numbers and heat.  There is actually a provision for this that could possibly exclude such a device from being subject to FCC rules. 

"Digital devices that are exempt from FCC technical standards.
There are a number of digital devices that are exempt from the technical standards in
Part 15. These are:

Digital devices used EXCLUSIVELY in appliances. "Appliances"
are devices that are designed to heat, cool or move something by
converting electrical energy into heat or motion. "  All BFL would need to do to become in compliance is add the claim that you can use it to heat your house in the winter to its marketing. 


7) It can be argued that the chips inside the BFL device are Subassemblies of a Digital Device.  Those devices are connected to a power supply which has been properly Certified.  Therefore since the power supplies are properly licensed, and the boards are subassemblies, the devices do not fall under the FCC rules. 

Subassemblies of a Digital Device
Circuit boards, integrated circuit chips, and other components that are completely
internal to a digital device are subassemblies of the digital device. (Note, however, that
circuit boards or cards that are connected to external devices or increase the operating
or processing speed of a digital device are considered peripherals.) Examples of
subassemblies include internal memory expansion boards, internal disk drives, internal
disk drive controller boards, CPU boards, and power supplies.
Section 15.101(e)
Subassemblies may be sold to the general public or to manufacturers for incorporation
into a final product. While subassemblies are not directly subject to FCC technical
standards or equipment authorization requirements, digital devices containing
subassemblies must still comply with the FCC's technical requirements. Accordingly,
manufacturers of subassemblies should design their products so the digital devices into
which they are installed will comply with the technical standards.


Cool The FCC specifically allows for a company to assemble a computer as long as they start with an authorized part.  This would lead me to believe that since the power supplys are authorized, and the chips could be considered a sub assembly, this would seem to allow for BFL to do what they are doing with out needing additional authorization

Can someone assemble and sell a computer without getting FCC authorization?10
Yes, as long as they start with an FCC-authorized system and add to it only
FCC-authorized peripherals (or certain subassemblies that don't affect the authorization
of the system such as internal disk drives and internal memory expansion units).
Assemblers, however, must follow any special instructions for the peripherals or
subassemblies, such as the use of shielded cables, and may not change the
identification of any peripheral or personal computer without the consent of the person
or company that obtained FCC authorization.


9) The point of FCC regulations is that the device is generally interference free for 10 meters (30 feet) for a class B device. 

In order for the FCC to to act on this, people would have to prove they were harmed by the BFL device, file complaints, and agree to have an investigator come out and verify that the device was in fact causing harmful interference.  At that time, the person who owned the device would be required to turn it off until the source of the harmful interference was eliminated.  In order for this to be true, the device would actually have to be creating harmful interference that would be detectable by an investigator. 

The most likely scenario here is that the device does not cause harmful interference and therefore is actually in compliance with the spirit of the FCC rules if not to the letter. 

My conclusion,

It seems that as long as you are in compliance with FCC non interference rules and are actually not harming people with your interference, your mostly good.  When you get bigger to a certain size, and potentially a larger target, then it makes sense to spend the money to become fully compliant.  It also seems that since BFL uses power supplies that have been tested and are in compliance, and they are simply assembling computers, their devices would not necessarily be subject to the rules to need to additionally become certified them selves and can most likely ride off of the certs of the power supply makers.

I think that BFL made the best available choice given the current business climate and reading the exact rules. 

Disclaimer: I'm not a lawyer and my opinion means nothing. 

6  Economy / Speculation / My Prediction on: July 03, 2013, 05:46:32 AM
I predict that bitcoin price will slowly decrease over the next 3 - 6 months hitting some low of $50 maybe even lower with some panic selling going on.  This will continue until the hash rate of bitcoin stabilizes.  At that time, the price will start creeping back up for a while before experiencing another bubble.  This will happen in the next 12-16 months where the new floor will be in a higher tier, maybe in the 300 - 500 range. 

A few things to consider:

1) Right now coins are flooding the market.  All these new mining machines that are getting shipped need to be paid for.  If I were mining off a huge debt I would most likely be trying to recoup my initial investment asap after getting the new machine. 

2) This is causing some fear in the market which is causing others to lose faith and reduce their positions in the market.

3) as soon as the hash rate stabilizes, this basically means most people have gotten their asics by now.  Many people have been paid back.  I think at this point, I would switch my strategy back to holding.

4) By this point the price has dropped and hits a bottom where it looks like its going to start going back up.  Lots of people who were lurking will start buying back in increasing their positions. 

5) By this time, all the people who lost faith last time will realize its a good time to get back in.

6) Repeat the last bubble but with bigger money coming in.  More business is established, laws are made clear, the bitcoin economy works better each time this happens. 

7) mania kicks in and we see another bubble.  Soon the mining reward will get cut in half.  The reality of how scarce coins are really starts to take hold.  Shit gets crazy. 

Thoughts?
7  Economy / Service Discussion / The truth about the BFL 1000 BTC fund? [Part 2] on: June 17, 2013, 05:54:16 AM
Just a heads up, Matthew N. Wright is apparently deleting responses that don't agree with his opinion.  He has deleted every reply I have posted into the thread.  That's his prerogative but it makes the thread seem very one sided.  The true discussion is not getting put in there for all to see, only the negative responses that he agrees with. 

Rather than respond to what I said, my points were simply deleted.  Starting a new thread is the only way to get this here without it getting deleted the second I post it.  I just thought it was important to share that.

My posts that were deleted are below.

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You haters are ridiculous.  https://www.smore.com/u1tq

Calling a company scammers over 50 times and then you wonder why they will not give you money and use that as a basis for claiming they are scammers?  You really only weaken your own case by claiming such ridiculous shit.  When I read shit that is clearly retarded, it makes me think the exact opposite of what your saying is true.  So if the BFL thing were somehow still a scam, you have just convinced me its legit due to how stupid what you're saying sounds..

Just throwing that out there.

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If I were in his place, I sure as shit wouldn't give a penny to someone who I thought was my mortal enemy and long time non-supporter of things that I personally spent years of my life on trying to make inroads into unexplored territory for be benefit of all.  I don't think that its hypocritical in the slightest to exclude anyone from receiving donations for any reason, even if I don't like the color of your shirt.  Now, as someone who may GIVE money to such a charity, that is who needs to be getting your message.  Your should be saying "would you give money to an organization that wouldn't give me money because I was critical of them?"  If the answer is no, then this action by Josh to exclude you has hurt him and he is not optimizing his strategy by excluding you.  But if the answer is "sure why do i give a shit about these obvious haters, i'm going to donate just to spite them because I'm tired of hearing their constant shit storm of butt hurt negativity" then Josh strategy to exclude you actually helped his cause. 

The reality of the situation is, someone who you feel has somehow slighted you personally by his non performance is in a position of power and you don't think thats right.  We get it.  But if that is the case, why don't you do better.  Why don't you start a company, pull together engineers that can accomplish what they said they would do, with a more honest timeline that you hit perfectly.  Why don't you dethrone him by being a bigger bad ass then he is.  I mean I have mad respect for anyone who can pull together an organization as complex as what they have done and actually pull that off.   As someone who has done something similar personally, I know it took me over 10 years of non stop dedication every day, to get my ideas off the ground.  I had to pull together many good people, and get a huge ball rolling just to even attempt what I did.  And I know that I didn't do this perfectly.  I will admit I have fucked up many times.  Sometimes by simply not being qualified to do what I was trying to do but not knowing it, and sometimes by sheer lack of experience not being able to anticipate pitfalls in my path.  But in the end, on the whole, the world is arguably a better place through my efforts.  Now matter what else you might say, you just can't deny that pulling a multi million dollar company out of your ass and in the end actually delivering on everything you set out to do is impressive.   Be critical, that is good but you must also give someone some fucking props when its due or you will look like nothing more then a bitter shill that has no interest in really presenting a fair and balanced view that people will actually respect and believe.

8  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / 51% attack possible ? on: May 19, 2013, 07:05:21 AM
http://bitnodes.io/

It appears that china has more nodes then any other country.  51% attack possible if they get more than half of the nodes?
9  Bitcoin / Mining support / Any good guides on starting a mining pool on: April 12, 2013, 09:00:31 AM
I have been looking into it mostly for fun.  Anyone know how to do it?  Tipping anyone who can get me there.
10  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / I think BFL deserves a bit more benefit of the doubt on: April 11, 2013, 06:53:59 AM
I have been dealing with them for about 3 months now. They have always returned every email I have sent them in a timely manner.  I was going to be in the area (this ended up not working out) and asked If I could tour the facility and see the build process.  They told me sure no problem but they expected to be extremely busy trying to get everything lined up so it might be better if I give them two weeks..  They also told me they want to be a long term mining partner and warned me not to buy a mining rig if I was hoping to just make fast profits.  They said realistically it would be about a year ROI to get the money back. 

So far, the company has been professional, honest, had a good attitude about it.

Now for the people who are going to jump in about how they have not delivered in 7 months, I have to say.

I have been doing some homework on what it takes to design an asic, get it produced, and turned into a finalized product.  Hint* not easy. 

Now I can believe that maybe these guys are kinda learning as they go.  And they are using everyone else money to do it.  I grant that.  But the same could be said for almost any new business.  I started a company 8 years ago out of my garage, just poof made it up one day.  And Yes I had the basics down in the beginning but honestly we were not that good at what we were doing for a few years. 

Also, Successful Business veterans quickly learn that its very easy mistake to make which is to not properly set a customers expectations.  I can see that BFL is obviously guilty of this.  It is clearly documented that they have said multiple times when something was going to happen and it didn't due to unforeseen complexities in the process. 

But lets be honest for a moment.  From what I can see, if they are a scammer company they are doing a very bad job about it. 

1) Have a public office where anyone can visit any time they want
2) This is their 2nd round of hardware (fpga's to asics?)
3) They are putting alot of money into R&D into software, and hardware design in support of the community with relatively low returns.  Probably working insane hours to do it. 
4) giving refunds to unhappy customers
5) offering lifetime warranty on all their products.

I say give them a break, If you don't believe in them, don't fucking buy anything from them.  But to openly accuse them of fraud, cheating, lying, and all the other shit I have been reading seems to be unwarranted to me.  I ordered a minirig from them and I want it to work correctly for at least a few years.  I want it to be well built and if that takes a little bit longer to make it awesome, then so be it.
I don't want some piece of shit they just slapped together so I can have the 2 week advantage over everyone else.  I would rather it take a few extra weeks if that means they are going to do it right. 

Another point is, we need companies like BFL who are willing to invest in the infrastructure if bitcoin is to survive long term.  Yea they have some faults, hopefully they will learn their lesson and start doing what every good business man does.  Under promise and over deliver.  Right now they have been over promising for a while and I think that is why so much negativity is going their way at the moment. 

I know I'm probably in the minority given the tone on these forums but I just wanted to throw out my two btc.
11  Economy / Speculation / 28k coins to get to 1000 on: April 03, 2013, 06:54:24 AM
Just looking at the MTGox depth charts and it looks like there are 31k coins for sale which if all purchased right this second would bring the price up to about 1270..

On the other hand there are 152.9K buy orders.

No wonder the price keeps going up.  For every coin for sale, there are 5 orders coins to buy.   And there is a huge amount of press going on right now.  Its going all the way to 500 in the next 30 days. 
12  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / What is the proper way to abbreviate the Satoshi? on: March 14, 2013, 04:30:13 AM
What is the proper way to abbreviate the Satoshi?

Bitcoins are BTC
Satoshi are ______?

Thank you.
13  Economy / Economics / The price of a shovel during a gold rush on: March 03, 2013, 09:26:34 AM
I found this interesting and somewhat relevant. 

http://www.michaellamarr.com/grprices.html

Prices are extremely high during the first part of the gold rush.  IE 10,000btc pizza..  now prices are .5btc for that same pizza. The gold rush is still happening but we have mined 50% of the available btc.  The remaining btc becoming increasingly harder to get with only the big mining companies sticking with it.  Prices will continue to fall, that same pizza will cost 0.05 btc, 0.005 btc and so on.  until it reaches equilibrium with the dollar. 

If everything goes right, the entire bitcoin economy being equal to the world cash economy some day.

https://www.google.com/publicdata/explore?ds=d5bncppjof8f9_&met_y=ny_gdp_mktp_cd&tdim=true&dl=en&hl=en&q=world%20gdp

Currently the world GDP is 70T with a possible 21M btc gives a maximum of $3.3M / 1 BTC

That means that a pizza should cost about: 0.000009 BTC when the dust settles...

I'm calling it !






14  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / biggest troll on the forum on: June 26, 2011, 02:21:05 AM
http://forum.bitcoin.org/index.php?topic=21659.msg273614#msg273614
15  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Proposal: ratecoin on: June 25, 2011, 08:01:27 PM
Include in some future version of the client a secure way to see ebay style seller ratings.


Some things to consider

1) this could be optional.  If i wanted to build a good reputation, then I would do so.  Just as if you only wanted to buy from people with a good reputation you could do so.  Currently the option is not available

2) I could just not participate in this system and disable it if i chose to

3) make the ratings impossible or difficult to forge

4) give some degree of confidence to buyers that the seller is not a scammer.

5) you smart math guys would have to figure out the exact way to include the data in the blocks to make it secure.

6) it could be a premium service that incurs additional transaction fees paid by the seller or maybe it wouldn't be necessary not sure on the technical side there...

7) you could still be anonymous as your real identity was not known if you choose but at least we could see how many people you have successfully had a transaction with where they were happy... This number could be NA or 0 if you choose not to participate and I can then choose not to buy from you because I don't trust you.

The obvious counter arguments (i'll just say them and save you the trouble)

1) it cant be done / impossible / QQ

2) that's a stupid idea

3) implementing a system that give confidence to the buyer is pointless and therefore this entire idea is pointless

4) this is not a core function of money and therefore should only be implemented in a 3rd party fashion and not implemented in the bitcoin it self.


This idea comes from seeing 3 posts about how bitcoin will fail because its too easy to get ripped off.

16  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / The kevin situation is like... on: June 21, 2011, 09:10:50 AM
Re minds me of that episode of Family guy where he goes on un employment, and the govt accidently sends him checks for $50,000 a week...

I had a legit buy order to buy coins at 13.50 that was up for at least a week or two before this happened... My order was filled when the market crashed(effectively doubling my total net worth).  I was briefly able to log in and see my balance before the market was taken off line.  I had considered yanking coins out for safe keeping but was not that worried about it.    Clearly, I wouldn't want to accept stolen funds in order to further my own greed.  There is too much bad karma associated with that.  At the time, I thought and early adopter decided to do a little profit taking and suck 200k out of the market... I was cool with that, it would have made the overall economy more stable in the long run.  I'm guessing my trade is invalid just as yours is.

Kevin, you can say you deserved to make that extremely easy money, but A TRADE IS BETWEEN TWO WILLING PARTIES.  THEFT IS ONE PERSON GAINING AND ANOTHER LOSING.  Anyone who knowingly and directly profits off of others misery with absolutely nothing in return are guilty of something.. Being a bad person the least of it.  I'm not saying you did this, but attempting on keeping ill gotten gains, and persisting to claim said ill gotten gains should not be returned to their rightful owners is just as bad as directly stealing them in my book.

Man the fuck up brother.. admit you took advantage of a fucked up situation that normally would not occur, return the cursed treasure, maybe you will not come back in your next life as a 3 legged cat or something...
17  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / What happens when bitcoin speculation ends? on: June 19, 2011, 10:57:16 PM
Well well well....

Now the reality of all the speculation has hit most of you square in the face.  How does it feel?  You feel like you just got raped?  Violated? 

Good.  You should feel that way.  You let your greed get the best of you and look at what happened. 

This was only a test, this was your sign from what ever god you believe in.  Had this been a real market crash you would be feeling this exact same way, but there would be no rollback.. Your money would just be gone. 

Think about that. 

You still have all your money tied up in Bitcoins?  Well, rather then freak out, drop all your bitcoins for bottom dollar the second the market opens back up (I hope you do this I'll be placing a large buy order) consider re-evaluating your positions on the market into a safer risk profile. 

Many of you are over extending your selves due to simple greed and trying to make a fast buck.  If you are doing this and you know who you are, you deserve to lose all your money.  Now that you have just been given a second chance, please think rationally rather then use the same rat brain instinct that you have been using thus far.

When the market opens up, and the bank run starts, all the smart ones have to do is circle like vultures waiting to pick clean the spoils of the panic.  If you were just in this to make a quick buck, i wish you well, I'll be using your greed and short sited view to increase my bitcoin supply.  Good luck.
18  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / mtgox hack confirmed on: June 19, 2011, 07:11:28 PM
This just in from mtgox

Huge Bitcoin sell off due to a compromised account - rollback

Mark Karpeles
posted this on Jun-20 04:07

The bitcoin will be back to around 17.5$/BTC after we rollback all trades that have happened after the huge Bitcoin sale that happened on June 20th near 3:00am (JST).

Service should be back by June 20th 10:00am (JST, 01:00am GMT) with all the trades reversed and accounts available.

One account with a lot of coins was compromised and whoever stole it (using a HK based IP to login) first sold all the coins in there, to buy those again just after, and then tried to withdraw the coins. The $1000/day withdraw limit was active for this account and the hacker could only get out with $1000 worth of coins.

Apart from this no account was compromised, and nothing was lost. Due to the large impact this had on the Bitcoin market, we will rollback every trade which happened since the big sale, and ensure this account is secure before opening access again.
19  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Wallet encryption on: June 17, 2011, 07:29:42 PM
http://it.slashdot.org/story/11/06/17/141228/Trojan-Goes-After-Bitcoins

This is really bad.

20  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / am i reading this correctly on: June 17, 2011, 08:49:50 AM
it seems that bitcoin network is far more powerful then all the top 500 supercomputers combined...

http://www.top500.org/list/2010/11/100
about 5,500

vs

Network Hashrate TeraFLOP/s    53,763
http://bitcoinwatch.com/

Thought that was interesting to put it in perspective.


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